2008.06.13 01:00 - Compadres

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    That night, 1 am SLT, was 5 pm for me in Kyoto. I could not stay long, since I had an early dinner engagement. I had asked around whether someone could stand in for me, and fortunately Fael was able to do so.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Pema
    Faenik loves wells!
    Pema Pera: oh hi Fael!
    Pema Pera: Hadn’t seen you yet
    Fael Illyar: Looks like I managed to get here this morning
    Pema Pera: yes, thanks a lot !!
    Pema Pera: I’m waiting at the restaurant
    Pema Pera: but my colleague is a bit late
    Pema Pera: so I still have a chance to check in
    Fael Illyar: Ah, that’s why you’re here.
    Pema Pera: I’m really glad you could make it
    Pema Pera: perhaps I am too fanatic :)
    Fael Illyar: Well, might be no-one else comes today.
    Pema Pera: but somehow we haven’t missed a beat yet in more than ten weeks
    Pema Pera: possible yes
    Pema Pera: but in that case you can do other things I guess
    Pema Pera: just keeping the window open and checking occasionally :)
    Fael Illyar: I think I’ll just sit here and finally prepare the log for the day before yesterday
    Pema Pera: ah, thank you!
    Pema Pera: I am two and a half days behind
    Pema Pera: perhaps three
    Pema Pera: don’t like that, but what can you do :)
    Fael Illyar: not enough time I guess?

    Yes, good guess it was! :>).

    Pema Pera: at some point we’ll switch from blog to wiki I think
    Pema Pera: more like wikipedia
    Pema Pera: so that many of us can directly contribute
    Pema Pera: I am now spending about 10 hours a day on PaB I think
    Faenik: why not?
    Pema Pera: and then I have my regular job
    Pema Pera: :)
    Fael Illyar: I’ve only got one weekly spot but I’m quite close to doing one log per day.
    Pema Pera: why not indeed!
    Pema Pera: haha
    Pema Pera: because of substituting for others you mean?

    Yes, somehow Fael had received an unfair share of the burden this week. At that point Hotaru joined us briefly.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Hotaru
    Pema Pera: or your own log?
    Pema Pera: Hi Hotaru!
    Pema Pera: company!
    Fael Illyar: yes, substituting for others
    Pema Pera: Hi Hotaru
    Pema Pera: yes, Fael, I really thank you very much for doing all that
    Hotaru Myoo: Hola compadres
    Pema Pera: and you, too Hotaru!
    Hotaru Myoo: I am a figment of yourimagination
    Pema Pera: comrads indeed!
    Pema Pera: for the collective :)
    Fael Illyar: figment or not, you’re here ;)
    Pema Pera: a figment with nice pigment!
    Hotaru Myoo: lol
    Pema Pera: well, my astro colleague is here
    Pema Pera: and dinner is calling.
    Hotaru Myoo: you didn’t see me
    Pema Pera: Sorry to leave you two here!
    Pema Pera: no I didn’t see you, Hotaru
    Pema Pera: and I am ready to deny any presence of you here!
    Pema Pera: haha
    Pema Pera: see you both
    Hotaru Myoo: I really can’t stay
    Pema Pera: and thanks again
    Pema Pera: fine, Hotaru!
    Hotaru Myoo: np
    Pema Pera: Fael is here
    Pema Pera: okay, bfn!

    So Hotaru and I both left Fael at the tea house. She later sent me the log of the remaining discussions, which I am including below, together with my comments.

    About twenty minutes after Hotaru and I had left, Hektor walked up to the tea house, and was soon followed by Rosie.

    Fael Illyar: Hello Hektor
    HekToR1985 Magic: hello
    HekToR1985 Magic: I serch a Jop
    Fael Illyar: None available here that I know of.
    HekToR1985 Magic: pity, because where could I find one?
    Fael Illyar: I’ve not got one myself so I do not know, sorry.
    Rosie Simca: Hello… mind if I join you?
    Fael Illyar: Hello, no, not at all.
    HekToR1985 Magic: OK, thanks anyway
    Rosie Simca: My husband is coming, too… He’s new to SL.
    HekToR1985 Magic: Fael Illyar from ?
    Fael Illyar: We have regular Play As Being meetings here at 1am, 7am, 1pm, 7pm. Although, this morning has been rather silent. Just me sitting here.
    Fael Illyar: I’m from Finland
    Fael Illyar: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/
    HekToR1985 Magic: ok i from German
    Rosie Simca: I heard of these meetings… that’s why we’re here.
    Rosie Simca: I’m from USA.

    Clifford then joined them, and suddenly there was a small crowd of four.

    Clifford String: Hiya. I’m so awkward here.
    Clifford String: Don’t know how much I like Second Life yet.
    Fael Illyar: Second Life is communication software, essentially :)
    Clifford String: Right.
    Fael Illyar: Has it’s positive sides and negative sides :)
    Clifford String: So I’d better think of some worthwhile things to say!
    Rosie Simca pats the seat next to me… “wanna join me Clifford?”
    Clifford String: My problem is I’m too impatient right now.
    Clifford String: Yea, Rosie.
    Fael Illyar: So, have you tried the 9-second explorations explained on the website yet?
    HekToR1985 Magic: ow else can I earn money, a job bigt it is not?
    Faenik: ah :)
    Rosie Simca: I never heard ot that Fael.
    Fael Illyar: That’s basically the idea for these meetings. we do those explorations and discuss them and things related to them.
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Fael Illyar: Although, very often offtopic. Still, I often find these very interesting :)
    Rosie Simca: I will check it out.
    Fael Illyar: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/hints-for-playing-as-being/
    Fael Illyar: this page is probably the best for introduction
    Rosie Simca: What do you usually discuss here?
    Clifford String: Mayhap I’ll check it out too.
    Clifford String: Sheesh, what would I do for a worthwhile conversation.
    Fael Illyar: Well, these meetings are for discussing whatever you notice you want to ask about these explorations.
    HekToR1985 Magic: ok, I will thank me a look at the page!
    Clifford String: I wonder if I’m too introverted for something like that.
    Clifford String: But that may be just mine own problem.
    Fael Illyar: The webpage I linked to also has transcripts for these meetings. Do you have a problem with what you say being placed on the web there?
    Clifford String: Me? Gosh no, no problem at all.
    Rosie Simca: No problem here.
    Clifford String: My catchphrase is: “You can quote me on that.”!
    Fael Illyar: good :)
    Faenik loves wells!
    HekToR1985 Magic: So once again I thank times will move more to discover!
    HekToR1985 Magic: by by
    Fael Illyar: Bye hektor
    Clifford String: Bye.
    Rosie Simca: bye Hektor

    HekTor took off, and Fael continued the introduction of Play as Being.

    Fael Illyar: If you’re planning to try doing the explorations yourself, it’s a good idea to use an alarm of some sort every 15 minutes or so.
    Fael Illyar: http://www.mindfulnessdc.org/mindfulclock.html like this one
    Clifford String: Oh, if I got involved in this I would need to be prepared beforehand.
    Clifford String: Don’t want to waste anyone’s time or attention.
    Fael Illyar: No need really, it just helps getting the conversation going :)
    Clifford String: This sounds smart - let me check out the web link right now.
    Fael Illyar: Conversation ranges all over the place usually. From just having fun to serious discussions about meditation and sometimes science and … well, depends on who is talking, really :)
    Fael Illyar: We have meetings 4 times a day but this time of the day tends to be least popular.
    Rosie Simca: This time of day I should be in bed. :)
    Clifford String: Whew! Sad to say, my real life mind is so rusty these days… I’d have to ease into it somewhat.
    Clifford String: Yea, I’m just tired now too.
    Fael Illyar: the next 2 meetings at 7am, 1pm SLT are more likely to have more people and interesting conversation
    Clifford String: Fael, do you live here?
    Clifford String: Is it just that you “work” here?
    Faenik loves wells!
    Clifford String: Can I put this onto my common places to visit?
    Fael Illyar: it’s volunteer work (although, I could get a plot for my house from a nearby sim if I wanted to)
    Fael Illyar: this place is public :)
    Rosie Simca: Clifford if you open your “profile” you can add this spot under the “Picks” tab.
    Clifford String: Gotcha.
    Fael Illyar: that reminds me, I really should add this place to my picks, completely forgot about that. Thank you :)
    Rosie Simca: :)
    Clifford String: This is all new to me!
    Fael Illyar: Yes, Second Life tends to have quite a learning curve :)
    Fael Illyar: Keeps the people you usually find here interesting :)

    Good point, Fael :-)

    Clifford String: Heh heh, I’ve got seasoned Rosie with me to help me out as she cares to!
    Rosie Simca: Give it a month before you are more at ease with SL, Clifford.
    Clifford String: That’s the main thing I want - interesing people.
    Fael Illyar: For me, SL has been the best way to find those that I’ve ever had.
    Clifford String: I just hope other people don’t lose patience with ME.
    Clifford String: I feel so gawky at this.
    Clifford String: But the discussion is good.
    Rosie Simca: I enjoy SL mostly for the socialness of it.
    Fael Illyar: You can’t get along with everyone. You can just hope to find the ones that you can get along with.
    Fael Illyar: Although, picking the places you go to carefully helps with that.
    Rosie Simca: It takes time to develop deep friendships… but it’s easier to do so here than it is in Real Life
    Clifford String: Yea, there goes mine impatience again! :/
    Fael Illyar: Yes, a lot easier, tens of thousands of people online at any given time.
    Fael Illyar: theoretically, you can be talking to any of them in seconds
    Clifford String: I have to force myself to be outgoing.
    Fael Illyar: I had that too at first. Although, I found I didn’t have to.
    Clifford String: Rosie here is a big socializer.
    Rosie Simca: :D
    Fael Illyar: I just put a lot of effort into my AV and somehow I had a couple of new people talk to me every week :)
    Clifford String: Oh, folks here ARE disarming, I feel it won’t be hard.
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Fael Illyar: took a while but I’ve got quite large amount of friends here already
    Clifford String: Oh, sheesh, I don’t plan on doing any more work on my AV!
    Clifford String: No, but yours looks great, Fael.
    Fael Illyar: Thank you :)
    Rosie Simca: Yes, you have a great AV, Fael.
    Faenik loves wells!
    Clifford String: All I want is for mine to look like I do in real life.
    Fael Illyar: You have great AV too, Rosie :)

    Hektor reappeared.

    Fael Illyar: Hello again, Hektor
    HekToR1985 Magic: hello i´m back
    Rosie Simca: Hi Hekktor
    HekToR1985 Magic: what makes her beautiful?
    Rosie Simca: ty Fael
    Clifford String: Heya, HekTor.
    Rosie Simca: Who is Faenik? I see green chat here.
    Fael Illyar: I found that the more time I spend here, The more I find I want to have my AV look well made :)
    Rosie Simca: :) I am the same way.
    Fael Illyar: Afterall, it’s on my screen all the time :)
    Faenik: why not?
    Clifford String: Heh heh, I may find that too, I wouldn’t doubt it!
    HekToR1985 Magic: AV ????
    Fael Illyar: Faenik is on my shoulder
    Clifford String: My goals of humility may be unrealistic!
    Fael Illyar: AV is short for Avatar.
    Rosie Simca: Hekktor…. what do you mean “what makes her beautiful?”
    Rosie Simca: ohhh hello Faenik…
    Fael Illyar: your appearance in Second Life
    Faenik purss contently.
    Clifford String: Avatar, got it.
    Clifford String: Honestly, I don’t know how much effort I’ll care to put into my Second Life infrastructure.
    Faenik giggles. that tickles.

    Fael continued to give suggestions to Clifford, to get him comfortably settled in SL.

    Fael Illyar: I’d suggest you make your AV just the way you like it yourself. That increases your chances of talking to people you will like.
    Rosie Simca: Great advice Fael.
    Fael Illyar: And makes it less likely you’ll talk to those you don’t like
    Clifford String: Good advice, Fael! I DO want to feel comfortable here in mine own way.
    HekToR1985 Magic: I will even change my ;-)
    Rosie Simca: :)
    Clifford String: I DO like mine AV as it is now; others might think it’s dumb, though.
    Rosie Simca: whoops.
    Rosie Simca: *lag*
    Fael Illyar: What others think doesn’t really matter all that much. You’ll find others who like it if you spend enough time here.
    Faenik: why not?
    Clifford String: I’m not into the fantasy look or the fashion show, for myself.
    Clifford String: I totally believe you, Fael, and that’s what I want.
    Rosie Simca: Clifford… you are like that in RL, too.
    Fael Illyar: I’m like that in RL, though, not here, strangely.
    Clifford String: What do you meean, Rosie? Reserved?
    Rosie Simca: plain and humble
    Clifford String: Yeah, thanks!
    Rosie Simca: :)
    Clifford String: You’re way fancier here than you are in RL, Rosie!
    Rosie Simca: :) it’s who I choose to be
    Fael Illyar: It’s very easy to be fancy here :)
    Rosie Simca: In RL I am a geeky nerd.
    Fael Illyar: Even money doesn’t, really, stand in your way.
    Clifford String: Yeah, real-life matter and energy are no problem!
    Fael Illyar: Although the easiest way to find good clothing is to buy them.
    Rosie Simca: I’ve found great freebies… high quality stuff.
    HekToR1985 Magic: I continue to fly again we’ll see whether it is not yet what interesantes. nice day!
    Rosie Simca: ok nice day Hektor

    Hektor took off again, and Clifford made a prediction. Dedicated readers of this blog will be able to verify the outcome of the prediction here in due time :-).

    Clifford String: You know what’s funny, Fael? I have this crazy notion that I’ll enjoy this conversation but that I’ll never deal with you again. Not out of any rancor, but just the way things work out… like in real life. Rosie here will chastise me for saying this… but I feel I don’t know how to socialize well here, as in real life.
    Clifford String: Not that I dislike you or anytning.
    Clifford String: Bye, HekTor.
    Fael Illyar: in SL, to wear fancy clothing, you just need to prepare it once, then you can use it with just a few clicks whenever you want.
    Rosie Simca: If you find someone you enjoy here - it is often ok to befriend them by clicking on their AV and selecting “Add Friend”. It helps to ask first though.
    Fael Illyar: If you keep coming here, you’ll bump into me again ;)
    Faenik loves wells!
    Clifford String: No, I think this world is like a big swirl of characters.
    Rosie Simca: Clifford… most of my greatest friends in SL I met during the first few weeks I was inWorld.
    Clifford String: I must seem distant or stand-offish to others (ask Rosie!), but I’m not hateful, just really socially non-confident.
    Rosie Simca: :)
    Clifford String: So maybe I seem put off, but I’m not.
    Fael Illyar: You know, I’m sort of (well, ok was) the same way.
    Fael Illyar: When I started SL that is
    Clifford String: No, I WANT to gain more confidence. Develop it, I should say.
    Clifford String: I’m like that in RL, too.
    Rosie Simca: If you are game - you will do just fine.
    Rosie Simca: It’s my bedtime. Actually it’s PAST my bedtime. :D I wish you all a good day. Thanks for the wonderful chat.
    Fael Illyar: Ok, good night Rosie :)
    Rosie Simca: It was great to meet you.
    Fael Illyar: You too :)
    Clifford String: People would think I’m totally nutty, but in real life, say, if I go to a party or a gathering of new people I always wonder (if not expect): “But what if no one there WANTS to have a conversation with me?” As I don’t expect it.
    Clifford String: O I ramble on. Vrey nice meeting you, Fael.
    Fael Illyar: You too Clifford :)
    Clifford String: See, I guess it’s not so hard.
    Clifford String: Wow, gotta go.
    Rosie Simca smiles.
    Fael Illyar: It’s not, if you try (and are a bit lucky)
    Rosie Simca: Yes… our bedtime. Let’s log, Clifford.
    Clifford String: I’ll be confident. Bye, now!
    Rosie Simca: Unless, of course, you want to stay.
    Rosie Simca: :D
    Clifford String: Gotta sleep!
    Fael Illyar: Good night :)
    Clifford String: Night!
    Fael Illyar: try the 1pm meeting, those are more lively
    Rosie Simca: I will be back. Thanks again. Night.
    Fael Illyar: night :)

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