2008.06.13 07:00 - Square Square Square

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    That morning, it was unusually busy at the tea house, right from the beginning, with Fael, Maxine, Adams and me present, and Rajah joining us quickly as well.

    Fael Illyar: Hello Pema, Maxine
    Maxine Walden: hi, Fael
    Pema Pera: Hi Maxine, hi Fael!
    Fael Illyar: Hi Rajah
    Fael Illyar: Hi Adams
    Adams Rubble: Hi Fael
    Maxine Walden: and Pema, seems we were able to log in finally
    Maxine Walden: Hi Adams
    Adams Rubble: Hi Rajah
    Pema Pera: yeah, it took me some tries
    Rajah Yalin: hi everyone
    Maxine Walden: me too
    Pema Pera: others also sent email
    Adams Rubble: Yes many tries for me too
    Pema Pera: what happened was this:
    Pema Pera: Update 06-13 06:38 : The outage from our colo hosting provider begin about 15 minutes later than expected, and lasted longer than expected. After a brief few minutes of being connected, the data center has again gone offline. The regions and inventory servers at that colocation facility continue to be affected. We will post more information as it becomes available.
    Pema Pera: you can find this info on http://status.secondlifegrid.net/
    Rajah Yalin: same
    Pema Pera: a useful place to look
    Pema Pera: Hi Rajah!
    Fael Illyar: I guess I was lucky to not be affected
    Rajah Yalin: there was a notice that said something similar
    Maxine Walden: oh, good, thanks. Interesting the slips we can make: I read ‘outage’ as ‘outrage’

    Maxine sure has a way with words :>).

    Pema Pera: Hi Adams, glad you made it too!
    Rajah Yalin: hi, late reaction Pema lol
    Adams Rubble: Thanks for coming Maxine
    Pema Pera: well outages do lead to outrage :-)
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Maxine Walden: glad to come…yes, outages to outrages…
    Fael Illyar: Hi Cal
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Adams Rubble: If any of you had a chance to see my blog this morning, I had quite a day yesterday
    Maxine Walden: Hi, Cal; tell us, Adams
    Adams Rubble: I was introduced to the concept of mindfulness
    Pema Pera: Hi Cal!
    Adams Rubble: Somehow I had missed that
    Rajah Yalin: hi Cal
    Adams Rubble: Hi Cal

    Caledonia joined us, while sloooowwwwllllly rezzing — clearly SL was stil in the dolldrums.

    Adams Rubble: It started in the morning session
    Adams Rubble: and then I gave myself an example of unmindfulness
    Adams Rubble: in the afternoon session
    Adams Rubble: then I went to meditation and got a card on the subject
    Adams Rubble: and finally last night I think I had an example of it at work
    Adams Rubble: in the discussion on compassion
    Fael Illyar: Quite well timed then :)
    Adams Rubble: I realized that being able to be compassionate was a state of mind
    Adams Rubble: after my battery went out and I was lying in bed
    Adams Rubble: I realized that the state of mind was mindfulness
    Fael Illyar: speaking of which, I also failed at mindfulness last night.
    Adams Rubble: I now realize that mindfulness if part of the 8-fold path
    Caledonia Heron:
    Adams Rubble: and it is an important tool for me in my own personal quest
    Adams Rubble: of trying to follow the Buddha-way
    Adams Rubble: that’s a mouthful :)
    Maxine Walden: and a mindful
    Caledonia Heron:
    Adams Rubble: I am wondering if I have it correctly stated
    Rajah Yalin: interesting
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Fael Illyar: You’re leaving the names out from your blog, depending a bit on why, you could consider referring to people with something those who know the person would recognise?
    Fael Illyar: Although, you already did that for a couple.
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Pema Pera: Also, anyone featuring in teh PaB blog has given explicit permission to be named on the blog, in public, so presumably that extends to your blog too, I think

    I drew a parallel between PaB explorations and laboratory work.

    Pema Pera: What strikes me more than anything else, Adams, is the way you are so totally engaged; that more than anything else counts. In a lab, when you really want to probe a situation, engagement is key. Whether you initially look in the right direction is not so important. Just continuing to look is key — and already what you described is very promising!
    Pema Pera: To say it differently, for a ship to get under steam is the hard part; once you are under steam, a flick at the rudder can let me focus on a better direction
    Pema Pera: *me -> *you
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: (it is true for me too)
    Pema Pera: (hence my typoe :)
    Pema Pera: *typo
    Maxine Walden: yes, getting the momentum, the engagement, seems key
    Adams Rubble: :)

    For a while, nobody spoke.

    Maxine Walden: wondering about our relative quiet right now, could be a contemplative space or an experience of non-engagement…depends probably on the momentary experience
    Pema Pera: I like your connection of monastic and lay practice reflections on your blog, Adams — interesting idea: getting here 4x/day as monastic and 9-sec as lay practice
    Maxine Walden: of each individual
    Adams Rubble: I would like to know more about mindfulness
    Adams Rubble: Pema that was the way I understood you yesterday morning
    Pema Pera: is connected with continuity can be helped by frequency hence 4x/hour
    Caledonia Heron: Maxine I have some mind chatter about whether I’m in a Buddhist instruction group or a discussion about “be playing” ….I guess it could be both and ….just waking up :)
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Pema Pera: mindfulness cannot be created as something on top of what you already have — the point is to subtract, not to add — the point is to clear away the rubble :-) Mindfulness is the natural state, to which we try to return in the 9-sec practice
    Pema Pera: both I think Cal
    Pema Pera: Buddhism is one way, only one, but a way to play with PaB
    Caledonia Heron: it would appear so
    Pema Pera: Hinduism would be too
    Pema Pera: or Christianity or almost anything
    Pema Pera: like in a juke box
    Pema Pera: do you have a request?
    Caledonia Heron: yeah, sure, got the analogy but hearing the same record :)
    Pema Pera: I’d be happy to play a different tune!
    Pema Pera: which one would you like?
    Caledonia Heron: nah, just commenting, it is the group will to be at that space I think
    Pema Pera: nono seriously
    Pema Pera: I think it is very good to hear different ones
    Pema Pera: just pick one!
    Pema Pera: pretty please :-)
    Caledonia Heron: :)
    Pema Pera wishes he could poke Cal with a sharp elbow
    Caledonia Heron: hey! who poked me???

    I probably overdid my prodding of Cal a bit. Sorry, Cal!

    Fael Illyar: I think mindfulness has been something I’ve been trying for for years.
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Pema Pera: okay, Sufism? Christianity? Hinduism? Taoism? Just choose one, Cal !
    Pema Pera: or a different one?
    Fael Illyar: or at least something close to it
    Pema Pera: Hi Showshow!
    showshow Camel: hi all
    Fael Illyar: Hi showshow
    Rajah Yalin: hi Show
    Pema Pera wondering why Cal doesn’t bite — must still be asleep
    Pema Pera thinks Cal is not the non-biting type
    Maxine Walden: I need to go in about 3 minutes
    Caledonia Heron: not really going for a religion angle I guess, more about being a better human

    Ah, that made a lot of sense, of course. Somehow I had not thought about that possibility. In fact, I really hope more of us here at PaB will explore non-traditional-religious approaches, outside any existing group or approach, even outside any notion of religion or spirituality or contemplation

    Pema Pera: ah, even better, thanks for the clarification!
    Rajah Yalin: [insert Gandhi quote here]
    Caledonia Heron: a knowing of my humaness such that I can relate to others at that level and thereby make a difference
    Maxine Walden: I really like your perspective, Cal
    Caledonia Heron: I suppose that falls into a religion somewhere somehow but it doesn’t really matter to me….sorry, heretical I know
    Pema Pera: Thanks, Cal, sorry, I had misunderstood you — how do you see mindfulness coming in here?
    Pema Pera: Or is that not a key point — are there other key points perhaps?
    Pema Pera: PaB is heretical !
    Pema Pera: so no need to worry about being heretical yourself
    Caledonia Heron: I don’t know but will consider your question Pema
    Pema Pera: okay, Cal, thanks!
    Maxine Walden: maybe the issue of having to relate to any ’sect’ feels stifling to Cal; it does to me often
    Pema Pera: I’m really glad you brought that up, since really we are not a Buddhist group here
    Faenik: why not?
    Pema Pera: haha
    Pema Pera: Faenik is funny
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Maxine Walden: as if ’someone out there’ is who we should be following
    Maxine Walden: gotta go, bye all
    Pema Pera: But everything we do here is totally compatible with Buddhism
    Rajah Yalin: Namaste
    Pema Pera: Is like a coordinate frame
    Caledonia Heron: yes Maxine, organized religion is interesting as a construct, a means to an end but not for all I guess
    Pema Pera: a reference frame
    Pema Pera: one option
    Adams Rubble: Thanks Maxine. Bye
    Fael Illyar: Bye Maxine
    Pema Pera: bye Maxine!
    Caledonia Heron: bye Maxine :)

    Maxine took of, and was replaced quickly by Rowan, followed by Showshow.

    Caledonia Heron: yes, I get the coordinate frame, that makes sense, like a reckoning
    Pema Pera: Actually what I really hope is for a scientist to come here, who is totally agnostic, not interested in religions, not even in the human angle as Cal stressed it, but who just want to figure out what reality is, in a hard-nosed way. I’d love to see such a scientist do the 9-sec practice . . . . might very well work!
    Pema Pera: Hey, Rowan, good to see you back here!
    Fael Illyar: Hi Rowan
    Pema Pera: wb Showshow
    Rowan Masala: Hello all
    Adams Rubble: Hello Rowan
    showshow Camel: hi again
    Faenik: why not?
    Pema Pera: The jukebox analogy for me works, Cal, I find it very refreshing to hear other tunes
    Pema Pera: And I hope we can talk here from many different angles
    Pema Pera: One reason I suggest us to make lab notes while doing the 9-sec practice
    Pema Pera: is that those notes are raw
    Pema Pera: less filtered through our expectations
    Pema Pera: of Buddhism or whatever isms
    Pema Pera: Like Adams’ notes
    Pema Pera: some refer to Buddhism
    Pema Pera: but most of them are just phenomenology
    Pema Pera: appearances
    Pema Pera: what happens
    Pema Pera: Have you seen Adams’ notes, Cal?
    Pema Pera: http://rubblebornthoughts.wordpress.com/
    Pema Pera: new blog
    Pema Pera: also linked to from the PaB motherblog
    Pema Pera: I think you’ll like it :-)
    Caledonia Heron: no, don’t really do the blog thing, but guess I should :)
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Caledonia Heron: sorry to rock the boat

    We switched to the topic of languages.

    Rowan Masala: Does anyone here have a babbler so we might be able to help Showshow understand a bit more easily?
    Caledonia Heron: yes, but Babbler’s can’t be given I don’t think - you have to get one from the source
    Pema Pera: I don’t but I can help translate
    Faenik loves wells!
    Pema Pera: 質問があれば、日本語でもいいですよ!
    Pema Pera: showshowさん
    Pema Pera: すみませんねえ、速口の英語ばっかり。。。
    Caledonia Heron: I checked, the Babbler is no trans
    Pema Pera: Anyway, Cal, if you’re allergic to blogs, Adams’ blog might be a good place to go –that one is pretty gravelly :>)
    Caledonia Heron: lol
    Fael Illyar: 私も日本語で話せます。
    Caledonia Heron: not allergic!
    showshow Camel: みなさんは、ひらがなが、よめますか?
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Caledonia Heron: have avoided them on basic signal to noise ratio :)
    Pema Pera: Faelさんはすごく上手!!
    Pema Pera: on average yes, Cal, for sure!
    Pema Pera: hopefully we are like the children of Lake Wobegon
    Pema Pera: all above average :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Rowan Masala: no question there, I think :)
    Caledonia Heron: lol, for sure
    showshow Camel: わたしは、にほんじんなので、えいごのぎろんが、むずかしいです。
    Pema Pera: よく分かります!
    Pema Pera: 僕も日本語の場合で困ってる:)
    Pema Pera: 質問はあるの?

    Caledonia picked up on the Prairy Home Compagnon idea, with a great quote:

    Caledonia Heron: the wobegon signoff is nice: be well, do good work, stay in touch
    Pema Pera: love that!
    Pema Pera: staying in touch is certainly our key point!
    showshow Camel: みなさんは、仏教に、きょうみがありますか?
    Pema Pera: how about a play element too?
    Caledonia Heron: lol, part of being well
    Pema Pera: ある人はそうです
    Rowan Masala: I think play is part of all three of those
    Rowan Masala nods to Cal
    Rowan Masala: yes :)
    Pema Pera: Caledoniaさんはそうでもない
    Caledonia Heron: uh-oh, Pema’s talking about me :)
    Pema Pera: はは
    Pema Pera: oops, haha
    Rowan Masala: The more I treat my work as play, the more people are reached by it, I think
    showshow Camel: nihongo wa muzukashi desuyone?
    Pema Pera: Showshow asked whether all of us are interested in Buddhism — I said some are, but you not particularly so :)
    Caledonia Heron: yeah, sometimes I wonder if people are desparate for a little play, a little light relief to their world
    Rowan Masala: yes!
    Pema Pera: Faelさんと僕は平気。。。
    showshow Camel: What’s the purpose of this meeting?
    Fael Illyar: 難しいんですが、読めると思います。難しいのは書くだけですよ^^;
    Caledonia Heron: sure, ShowShow, interested as an idea, not as something that runs me
    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/ has the introduction, Showshow
    showshow Camel: I see
    Pema Pera: if something is not clear on the first two pages, please feel free to ask me
    Pema Pera: you can send IM or email to piet@ias.edu
    Pema Pera: 日本語でもいいです
    Pema Pera: Faelさんへもいいです:)

    After encouraging Showshow to ask further questions in Japanese about PaB, via IM or email, to either Fael or me, we continued.

    Pema Pera: Can you say more, Cal?
    Pema Pera: about “as an idea”?
    Pema Pera: “not runs me”
    Caledonia Heron: more on square square square?
    Caledonia Heron: oh
    Pema Pera: AH!
    Pema Pera: Buddishm
    Pema Pera: sorry
    Pema Pera: didn’t make the connection to way back when
    Pema Pera: now I got it
    Caledonia Heron: sorry, seeing your other language set as a series of squares, I guess you are translating for Show Show
    Pema Pera: ah, you don’t get the pretty chinese characters?
    Pema Pera: too bad . . . visually so much more pleasing than squares!
    Caledonia Heron: as art sure :)
    Fael Illyar: It tends to require installing the fonts :)
    Pema Pera: not on a Mac
    Caledonia Heron: yes, it does Fael
    Pema Pera: on a Mac everything’s there
    Fael Illyar: Not on Ubuntu either
    Faenik: could be
    showshow Camel: This SIM is very similar to Japan
    Rowan Masala: brb (sorry–am at work)
    Pema Pera: Ah, you mean the buildings here, like this tea house? Yes, Japanese style
    showshow Camel: So maybe most people here are interested in Japanese culture

    Hard to generalize.

    Pema Pera: some are
    Pema Pera: others not
    Pema Pera: or not particularly
    Caledonia Heron: lol, getting vaguer by the moment :)
    Pema Pera: but somehow it seems half the people here speak at least some Japanese :)
    Caledonia Heron: more vague?
    showshow Camel: Even Japanese……ZEN is very difficult to understand
    showshow Camel: lol
    Pema Pera: yes, for all of us
    showshow Camel: I think ZEN is a spritual background of Japanese people
    Pema Pera: one of them, yes, but there are many more
    Caledonia Heron: My impression is I shut down a line of inquiry perhaps - I do apologize to you Adams particularly - did not mean to shut down your flow, just struggling a bit myself. Willing to sit in the doghouse a while. :)
    Adams Rubble: no need to do that Cal :)
    Caledonia Heron: woof
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pema Pera emptying his pockets in search of cookies
    Caledonia Heron: lol
    Faenik waves his tail looking at Cal.
    Pema Pera: Well, I’d better get over to the astro meeting in SL
    Pema Pera: brave cat, this Faenik!
    Adams Rubble: In response to Cal, I apologize for seeming to make this just about Buddhism
    Fael Illyar: We all have our interests :)
    Caledonia Heron: it’s what’s on your mind - seems perfectly appropriate
    Pema Pera: Hi *
    Stargate Tone: Good day to all…and evening…
    Adams Rubble: yes it is on my mind, and not necessarily as a religion
    showshow Camel: I think most Japanese are buddists but don’t know much about buddism
    showshow Camel: lol
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Stargate Tone: I agree 130 %

    Stargate had entered and joined us.

    Caledonia Heron: understood Adams, myself included
    showshow Camel: Because Buddism doctrine is written in very difficult pld Chinese letters
    Stargate Tone: :)*
    showshow Camel: So most Japanese can’t read it
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pema Pera: Sorry everybody, have to go now –good seeing you all!
    Fael Illyar: Bye Pema
    Adams Rubble: Bye Pera :)
    Stargate Tone: Have Good Time Pema *
    Faenik loves wells!
    showshow Camel: See u
    Faenik: Bye Pema
    Caledonia Heron: bye :)
    Rajah Yalin: bye pema
    Pema Pera: Adams, will you keep a chat log of the rest of the session?
    Stargate Tone: oh …I have to go too…
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Stargate Tone: be happy :)**
    Pema Pera: thank you!
    Stargate Tone: stargate
    Fael Illyar: Bye * :)
    showshow Camel: wow

    Stargate left in her trademark colorful heartful way, and I also departed. Adams would later sent me the remainder of her chat log; the comments below continue to be mine.

    showshow Camel: Most people in this room are Guardians?????
    Fael Illyar: Yes, everyone except you :)
    showshow Camel: wow
    Caledonia Heron: I believe so Show Show
    Fael Illyar: It’s not something that should cause a “wow” though, I don’t think :)
    showshow Camel: I’m so surprised
    Caledonia Heron: ah, we’re all pretty “wow” but probably not for that reason
    Fael Illyar: Well, I guess I’ll have to agree with that :)
    Caledonia Heron: lol
    showshow Camel: I’m not good at English, so I can’t say what I want to say
    Fael Illyar: try saying it in japanese, I’ll try to translate
    Caledonia Heron: sigh, wishing I had not spoken up but hey, what else can you do?
    Caledonia Heron: I have to go, thank you
    Adams Rubble: bye Cal :)
    Fael Illyar: Ok, see you Cal :)
    showshow Camel: see ya

    After Cal left, Adams, Fael, Rajah and Showshow remained behind.

    showshow Camel: By the way…what do you think about Japanese people in SL?
    Adams Rubble: We like having Japanese people in SL
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Fael Illyar: Yes, it’s an interesting and nice addition. Japanese sims tend to have better shops on average.
    Adams Rubble: It is good for the world to be together here
    showshow Camel: Yeah
    showshow Camel: Biggest problem of our Japanese is a language barrier?
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Fael Illyar: Language barrier and I think culture differences complicate things too.
    Adams Rubble: But we need to talk to each other
    Fael Illyar: Even when you can talk to each other, culture differences remain
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Fael Illyar: That sometimes causes awkward situations
    showshow Camel: Of course cultural differnce is very big
    Adams Rubble: and time zones
    Fael Illyar: Yes, timezones too but that’s not limited to just Japanese :)
    Adams Rubble: oh no, I kept you up very late the other night Fael
    Adams Rubble: I was thinking of the whole world
    Fael Illyar: I already told you not to worry about it :)
    showshow Camel: There are so many differences between western and Japan
    Adams Rubble: we learn from each other
    showshow Camel: If we Japanese could speak in English more fluentry, we could communicate much better
    Adams Rubble: or we westerners learned Japanese :)
    showshow Camel: That’s a good idea
    showshow Camel: lol
    Adams Rubble: :)

    The conversation continued to focus on languages, culture and geography.

    Rajah Yalin: i’m a Far Far Easterner, what about me? :P
    Fael Illyar: Learning Japanese is rather difficult because the thought structure is completely different. But that also works the other way around, Japanese find it equally difficult to learn English.
    Adams Rubble: Rajah, where are you from?
    Rajah Yalin: Vanuatu, island nation in the south pacifc
    Fael Illyar: Although, it’s probably more to do with cultural things whether or not you learn other languages well.
    Adams Rubble: We will be sure not leave you out :)
    Adams Rubble: Fael, Finnish is similar in structure to Japanese is it not, except for the characters?
    Fael Illyar: The French tend to have problems with English and those are closely related languages :)
    showshow Camel: Where is Vanuatu?????
    showshow Camel: Sorry I don’t know
    Fael Illyar: It’s not close enough, I had quite a bit of trouble wrapping my head around Japanese thought patterns :)
    Rajah Yalin: east of australia and west of fiji
    Fael Illyar: English was much easier for me.
    showshow Camel: I see
    Adams Rubble: That is interesting. How about Turkish?
    showshow Camel: So near to New Zealand?
    Rajah Yalin: yep
    Fael Illyar: Turkish I have no idea :)
    showshow Camel: What’s your mother tongue………Rajah
    Rajah Yalin: south efate language
    Fael Illyar: That one I haven’t even heard about before I guess.
    Adams Rubble: No, me neither
    showshow Camel: But you are very good at English…………..Rajah
    Rajah Yalin: nope it’s only spoke on my island
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Adams Rubble: Yes you do write English very well
    Rajah Yalin: we speak Bislama and English mostly, some French
    Fael Illyar: I think the less natives there are for a certain language, the more likely they’re to speak other languages too.
    showshow Camel: So many languages
    Rajah Yalin: Bislama is a mix of English and some native Melanesian

    Everybody comparing their watches.

    showshow Camel: What time is it now in your island?…….Rajah?
    Rajah Yalin: 14:16
    showshow Camel: wow
    Adams Rubble: and in Japan?
    showshow Camel: 0:16 am
    Fael Illyar: 18:17 in Finland
    Rajah Yalin: 2:17 in the morning I mean
    Fael Illyar: 2am then?
    Rajah Yalin: yep
    Fael Illyar: 2pm would be 14:00
    showshow Camel: one of the most east country!!!!!!!!!!
    Rajah Yalin wasn’t thinking.
    Rajah Yalin: :P

    And a brief smiley lesson followed.

    Adams Rubble: what does :P mean?
    Fael Illyar: it’s a smiley
    Adams Rubble: Oh :)
    Rajah Yalin: with the tongue out, like a joke
    Adams Rubble: oh :)
    Fael Illyar: it often tends to suggest “It’s funny, laugh” :P
    Rajah Yalin: yep :D
    Adams Rubble: :D ?
    Rajah Yalin is a monk of smilies.
    showshow Camel: lol
    Rajah Yalin: that’s a wide grin
    Fael Illyar: another smiley, take the : as eyes and D as mouth
    Adams Rubble: oh :)
    Faenik: could be
    showshow Camel: You lok like Japanese monk……………Rajah
    Rajah Yalin: yep the outfit is Japanese
    showshow Camel: Have you ever been to Japan????
    showshow Camel: wow
    Rajah Yalin: no though I’ve been to Tibet

    The conversation turned to trips by the Dalai Lama

    showshow Camel: I see
    showshow Camel: You look like Tibet monk
    showshow Camel: In these days Tibet has a big political pronlem
    showshow Camel: problem
    Rajah Yalin: yes
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Rajah Yalin: China is the problem
    showshow Camel: Darai Rama came to Japan
    Adams Rubble: Fael, lovely outfit
    Rajah Yalin: I don’t think he’s came to Vanuatu
    Fael Illyar: Thank you Adams :) You look lovely too.
    Rajah Yalin: Sun Myung Moon tried to come here, but no one wanted him here
    Adams Rubble: The Dalai Lama is a very inspirational person
    Adams Rubble: No Sun Myung Moon is very different
    Rajah Yalin: I don’t like him
    Adams Rubble: I heard the Dalai Lama speak in United States
    Rajah Yalin: I don’t like Sun Myung Moon, that is
    Adams Rubble: a very humble man with a great sense of humor
    Adams Rubble: Hopefully the Chinese Government will learn to accept him as a force to help the situation
    Rajah Yalin: FREE TIBET
    Rajah Yalin: anyways, I must be going
    Adams Rubble: That is probably more than can happen unfortunately
    Rajah Yalin: Namaste
    Adams Rubble: It was good to see you Rajah :)
    Fael Illyar: Ok, Bye Rajah :)
    showshow Camel: namasteee
    Adams Rubble: bye
    Rajah Yalin: take care
    Adams Rubble: you too :)
    showshow Camel: I have to leave here
    Adams Rubble: OK bye showshow :)
    showshow Camel: see you nest time
    showshow Camel: bye for now
    Fael Illyar: Ok, see you some other meeting showshow :)
    Fael Illyar: Thank you for stopping by :)
    Adams Rubble: Yes :)

    Adams and Fael stayed and chatted a bit longer

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