2008.06.21 13:00 - Cool Aunt

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    That afternoon, Dakini was the guardian, and she sent me the following log with her comments.

    Dakini, Adams, Pia, and Fael talked about rearranging the cushions and our minds…

    Pia Iger: I feel hunger to do 9 sec
    Fael Illyar: It’s amazing what you learn in a couple of weeks of meditating / PaBing :)
    Fael Illyar: well, at least what I did.
    Dakini Rhode: you’ve been very focused
    Pia Iger: I was the one saying cusion can be smaller.
    Dakini Rhode: i saw you made it smaller
    Pia Iger: so we can sit closer:)
    Dakini Rhode: i rotated it so the design looks better
    Dakini Rhode: yes, we seemed so far away
    Dakini Rhode: and made some kneeling, but not the best kneel i’ve ever seen :P
    Dakini Rhode: Kneeling is important with some skirts
    Pia Iger: oh, did not notice I can kneel
    Fael Illyar: Before I started, I had a problem because I got visibly annoyed with my youngest half-brother when he decided to start teasing me. Today I went there and he gave up after 10 minutes or so sinnce I had no problem at all.
    Adams Rubble: It was good of you to make the changes
    Dakini Rhode: i took my nephew shopping once… oh my
    Dakini Rhode: he acted very strangely
    Dakini Rhode: quite attention-seeking
    Dakini Rhode: after awhile he asked me if it bothered me… how he was acting
    Dakini Rhode: He said his mother would have hit the roof
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Dakini Rhode: But I told him he could act like that if he wanted people to look at him…
    Dakini Rhode: lol he still remembers
    Dakini Rhode: years later
    Dakini Rhode: the day his auntie let him act like a spazz
    Dakini Rhode: i think maybe that’s not a politically correct term
    Dakini Rhode: but it is the term he used
    Pia Iger: how long did the spazz last?
    Dakini Rhode: hours (groan)
    Dakini Rhode: after awhile, he said his back hurt
    Adams Rubble: haha
    Dakini Rhode: I was like, “i wonder why?”
    Fael Illyar: persistent kid :)
    Dakini Rhode: lol
    Dakini Rhode: very in need of attention
    Dakini Rhode: yes, and persisten
    Dakini Rhode: t
    Dakini Rhode: he was just trying something out…
    Dakini Rhode: i doubt he did it again
    Dakini Rhode: it gave him a backache
    Pia Iger: seems the key is “give them the space to play it out”
    Dakini Rhode: really and give yourself the space…
    Dakini Rhode: to not be attached
    Pia Iger: It can apply to a lot of annoying things
    Dakini Rhode: i could have thought his behavior somehow reflected on me
    Dakini Rhode: yes
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Dakini Rhode: it was an enlightening experience for me, too
    Dakini Rhode: i learned a lot from it
    Dakini Rhode: we bonded
    Faenik: ah :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: wonderful. I have got chance to bond with my niece yet.
    Dakini Rhode: he told his mother (my sister) he thought i was cool
    Pia Iger: not got chance, I mean
    Dakini Rhode: which made my ego go up a notch lol
    Pia Iger: I want to be cool aunt too.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Dakini Rhode: me too
    Dakini Rhode: i want to be cool :-)
    Dakini Rhode: which
    Dakini Rhode: i never was (value judgement)
    Dakini Rhode: lol
    Adams Rubble: I think we all feel that way
    Dakini Rhode: where does it start?
    Dakini Rhode: school?
    Pia Iger: before school
    Adams Rubble: It may just be part of growing up
    Pia Iger: we were judged by parents, neighbor, etc.
    Dakini Rhode: (sigh)
    Pia Iger: good girl, smart girl, all kinds

    Seeing connections to playasbeing…

    Dakini Rhode: ooh i see a connection to PaB
    Pia Iger: finally??
    Dakini Rhode: lol
    Dakini Rhode: we learn to stop and drop

    My avatar was typing with one hand whilst drinking latte with the other…

    Adams Rubble: You are very good at tyoing with your left hand
    Adams Rubble: typing
    Dakini Rhode: amazing isnit it
    Dakini Rhode: speling still not so good :P
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: efficient teacher, look like
    Adams Rubble: syop and drop?
    Dakini Rhode: heheee
    Adams Rubble: stop
    Adams Rubble: ?
    Dakini Rhode: for the 9 seconds
    Dakini Rhode: the bell rings - that’s like a stopping
    Dakini Rhode: we drop our train of thought
    Dakini Rhode: or look at it directly
    Dakini Rhode: however we do it, i’ve heard both…
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Dakini Rhode: but it is a break in the stream of thoughts
    Adams Rubble: I am confused at the connection
    Dakini Rhode: anytime we break that,
    Dakini Rhode: new thoughts are possible
    Dakini Rhode: or new ways of seeing
    Dakini Rhode: Adams, please say more…
    Adams Rubble: I am having trouble making the connection between the difficulties growing up and PaB stopping and dropping
    Dakini Rhode: oh!
    Dakini Rhode: i think the connection is more to how we handle ourselves now
    Adams Rubble: Oh
    Adams Rubble: OK
    Dakini Rhode: that’s the connection i was seeing
    Dakini Rhode: we have these patterns from way back, and the practice can be helpful in working with them
    Adams Rubble: I see
    Dakini Rhode: seeing them, and maybe seeing new possibilities
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Dakini Rhode: well that was what i was thinking…
    Adams Rubble: breaking the patterns is the conection
    Dakini Rhode: that’s the connection i saw…
    Dakini Rhode: and then things being more workable once the patterns are stopped, even for a moment
    Dakini Rhode: becuase you see that they arent so solid

    How our practice has evolved…

    Fael Illyar: At first, when I was doing PaBs, it took me some time, after them, to remember what I’d been doing
    Fael Illyar: Now it comes immediately
    Dakini Rhode: interesting
    Adams Rubble: and yes, Fael, that IS interesting
    Dakini Rhode: Fael have you become more efficient at stopping?
    Fael Illyar: I think I manage to drop everything fast enough usually that I’ve several seconds of … nothing
    Fael Illyar: I’m using Moon’s bell sound for my alarm so that works for timing it too
    Fael Illyar: I use that to mark the start and also the end
    Adams Rubble: I’ve never succeeded in timing the 9 seconds
    Pia Iger: I guess it is like 2 breath time

    I stopped and dropped the latte cup and saw that levitation is possible with these kneeling cushions…

    Dakini Rhode: with the mindfulness bell (hey! i’ve successfully levitated!)
    Fael Illyar: the bell sound is close to 9 seconds so I tend to just drop everything until shortly after the sound is over
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Dakini Rhode: this is like the old place…
    Pia Iger: woow
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Dakini Rhode: yes Fael
    Dakini Rhode: i follow the sound of the bell

    And the bell went Gooong

    Pia Iger: here it goes.
    Adams Rubble: I think with the writing in the blog that the 9 seconds drags out pretty long sometimes

    We talked about sharing our practice with others around us…

    Dakini Rhode: been doing this at work, and others have asked…
    Dakini Rhode: and they do it with me
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: really,
    Pia Iger: contagious
    Dakini Rhode: one man - really hyper - said it makes him feel calm
    Pia Iger: could be.
    Fael Illyar: I had a friend over two days ago and he started doing them too after a couple :)
    Dakini Rhode: just listening to the bell for 9 secs
    Pia Iger: Pema would be too happy to hear this.
    Adams Rubble: will be :)
    Dakini Rhode: i suspect he will :-)

    [pema making a cameo appearance here: yes, Pia, Adams, Dakini, very much so!!!]

    Pia Iger: spread out of SL.
    Dakini Rhode: bells ringing at work…
    Fael Illyar: I suppose he decided to do it since the conversation was being paused on the bells anyhow :)
    Dakini Rhode: haha that didn’t bother anyone too much
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Dakini Rhode: i thought maybe people will think i have narcolepsy or something
    Dakini Rhode: anything is possible…
    Adams Rubble: Nobody has asked e about the bells yet :)
    Adams Rubble: me
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Dakini Rhode: i wonder why not?
    Adams Rubble: They probably are wondering
    Fael Illyar: too shy?
    Pia Iger: ARE YOU THE BOSS?
    Dakini Rhode: too polite?
    Dakini Rhode: lol Pia
    Adams Rubble: Well with the people who have heard it, yes :)
    Adams Rubble: I don;t stop when there are people in the office
    Adams Rubble: the bell just goes off
    Dakini Rhode: i think i stop mentally, imperceptibly, while continuing with what i was doing or saying… if that makes sense
    Dakini Rhode: multitasking…
    Fael Illyar: I think that’s the situation it’d be most useful with ;)
    Adams Rubble: I think so—I am conscious of it

    A warning which bears repeating: don’t do PaB with eyes closed while operating machinery or doing surgery…

    [lol, Dakini! Now that you all got me in the habit of cameo texting, there may be no end to it . . . ]

    Pia Iger: don’t laugh at me.
    Pia Iger: I fell off treadmill one day
    Pia Iger: cause I suddenly want to close my eyes
    Dakini Rhode: oh my this should come with a warning
    Dakini Rhode: “don’t close eyes while operating machinery”
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Pia Iger: I think it was warned in Hint page
    Dakini Rhode: or doing surgery or something like that
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: so I can’t complain..
    Dakini Rhode: i hope you didn’t get hurt
    Adams Rubble: Pia, that could happen to any of us
    Pia Iger: I am ok. thx.
    Dakini Rhode: Pia, i could fall off the treadmill without closing my eyes
    Fael Illyar: That’s something that needs some consideration if I’m moving the alarms to my cellphone.
    Pia Iger: can we do that?
    Dakini Rhode: mp3 file?
    Pia Iger: it would be neat.
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Fael Illyar: depends on the cellphone. The newer smartphones can have software installed
    Dakini Rhode: is that file available to us, Fael?
    Fael Illyar: the bellsound I use is from Moon. He sent me the sound file.
    Dakini Rhode: yes, is it full perms or?
    Fael Illyar: It’s a file.
    Fael Illyar: sent by email :)
    Dakini Rhode: so not the one in the bell here
    Fael Illyar: the same sound
    Dakini Rhode: yes
    Fael Illyar: but since you can’t have permissions on files you send by email, it’s “full perm” :P
    Dakini Rhode: right
    Fael Illyar: I’d rather ask Moon about it before sending it to anyone else though.
    Dakini Rhode: :-)
    Dakini Rhode: the sounds you get with the mindfulness bell download
    Dakini Rhode: could be used
    Fael Illyar: Yes, those would work too.

    Noting the sychronicity and connections which have brought us all together and playing as being…

    Pia Iger: somehow I feel whatever we need, it would appear in time
    Dakini Rhode: it seems to work that way, Pia
    Dakini Rhode: In SL, it seems quite strikingly so
    Pia Iger: Mindfulness bell is an example
    Dakini Rhode: I think at all that has happened here, all the people finding each other, and this one location in SL, and I’m amazed
    Pia Iger: fascinating, it is!
    Adams Rubble: Yes, I was thinking along those lines today
    Dakini Rhode: all this interconnectedness
    Adams Rubble: It is a pretty amzing group of people
    Pia Iger: all different characters, talents, goofies
    Dakini Rhode: :-)
    Adams Rubble: :)

    [Pema Pera: :)]

    Dakini Rhode: even with the robes for Isen (if i can mention that with him not being here)
    Dakini Rhode: for some time the monks here have wanted proper robes
    Dakini Rhode: we tried some other designers
    Dakini Rhode: they didn’t feel right
    Dakini Rhode: were in it just as a job
    Dakini Rhode: then ryu popped up
    Dakini Rhode: such a blessing!
    Pia Iger: wow
    Pia Iger: beautiful story.

    Trusting in SL despite having fewer clues to go on…

    Dakini Rhode: he just “felt” right
    Dakini Rhode: same as Pema
    Fael Illyar: It’s funny how some people just feel right :)
    Pia Iger: I was wondering how the trust work out in SL.
    Dakini Rhode: especially with the few clues we have here in SL
    Dakini Rhode: maybe i’m just foolish
    Adams Rubble: It has been a good place to meet
    Dakini Rhode: maybe i should ask for references
    Dakini Rhode: resumes
    Dakini Rhode: lol
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: but still we don’t trust ppl by resumes
    Fael Illyar: it’s easier to trust someone you bump into when there has been no obvious motive for the contact.
    Adams Rubble: Yes, I was thinking about that
    Fael Illyar: umm, obvious self interest motive that is
    Adams Rubble: I often take people’s resumes at face value
    Adams Rubble: and usually I am nto disappointed
    Adams Rubble: not
    Adams Rubble: but obviously there are situations where people might have a motive to cheat
    Adams Rubble: and then one needs to be more careful
    Pia Iger: hard to say, it can be really complicated. the trust issue.
    Pia Iger: or can be quite simple
    Adams Rubble: Of course we don;t pay much :)
    Dakini Rhode: the risks here are relatively minor
    Adams Rubble: Yes, it is more an experience for them
    Dakini Rhode: i like to try to turn my RL upside down here
    Fael Illyar: RL upside down?
    Pia Iger: what do you mean?
    Dakini Rhode: for example
    Dakini Rhode: in RL i work for money, here I pay to work
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Fael Illyar: ah, that certainly is upside down :)
    Pia Iger: I thought we are playing:)
    Dakini Rhode: yes and i like it
    Dakini Rhode: playing at working…
    Fael Illyar: here you can do whatever you choose :)
    Dakini Rhode: i started as playing, but it has become quite busy at times
    Pia Iger: true,
    Dakini Rhode: yes Fael, and for low cost
    Pia Iger: It becomes full time study for me. all the blogs to read
    Pia Iger: and blogs linked to blogs…
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: I spent over 24 hours in the last week either at PaB meetings or talking to people about PaB or Buddhism
    Dakini Rhode: meetings to attend…
    Adams Rubble: and that doesn;t include friendly conversation
    Adams Rubble: or reading logs
    Dakini Rhode: I easily do that too, Adams
    Adams Rubble: or woriting blogs
    Adams Rubble: weiting
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Adams Rubble: writing

    All this PaBing must be affecting our speling..

    Adams Rubble: and attending zazen too
    Pia Iger: hiding tax is much higher than 1%
    Adams Rubble: hiding tax?
    Dakini Rhode: hidden?
    Pia Iger: yes.
    Dakini Rhode: well we don’t need to do more than we’re able…
    Adams Rubble: I just want to say that I was mentioning the hours from the standpoint of the great opportunities I have had in the past week
    Dakini Rhode: ty for mentioning Adams

    Fael uploaded Moon’s PaB bell sound, in case we want it for our alarms.

    Fael Illyar: about the alarm sound, I asked moon and he said it’s ok to send it to others for use for PaB alarms.
    Dakini Rhode: thank you, Fael!
    Fael Illyar: So, it’s not available from the google group
    Pia Iger: the bottom line we do want to spend time.
    Fael Illyar: uh, now
    Fael Illyar: not not
    Dakini Rhode: now!
    Dakini Rhode: great!
    Dakini Rhode: not not = now
    Fael Illyar: http://playasbeing.googlegroups.com/...WxA5sDirc9SrBV
    Adams Rubble: thank fael
    Pia Iger: thanks. how to use?
    Pia Iger: I am slow
    Adams Rubble might be slower
    Fael Illyar: Pia, you haven’t used the google group yet?
    Pia Iger: yes. I mean how to use the bell. just download?
    Adams Rubble doesn’t even have a cell phone
    Fael Illyar: that’s the soundfile, you need a program for playing it back every 15 minutes to use it for alarms
    Fael Illyar: the mindfulness bell program should work
    Pia Iger: ok. thanks.
    Fael Illyar: for cellphones, I haven’t looked at the possibilities yet

    Stopping the past?

    Pia Iger: back to Adams’ said
    Pia Iger: it’s great opportunities,
    Pia Iger: I was thinking my life would be very different if I did stoppings long time ago,
    Pia Iger: Not regretting,
    Pia Iger: Just thinking the possibility
    Adams Rubble: I hadn’t thought of that yet
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Fael Illyar: Yes, the sooner you start the better I think.
    Pia Iger: on the other hand,
    Pia Iger: maybe my previous setbacks make me see the value of stopping
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Pia Iger: otherwise, i won’t stick here so often
    Adams Rubble: Buddhism teaches us to look at the present
    Dakini Rhode: we can see the mind as a continuum
    Dakini Rhode: instead of looking at birth, death, time, and lifespan
    Dakini Rhode: never too late…
    Dakini Rhode: wow i saw that doing PaB and now i can share it
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Fael Illyar: :)

    Saying goodbye, for now…

    Pia Iger: Dakini, did you take a pic of us?
    Dakini Rhode: no, shall i?
    Adams Rubble: I took a pic
    Pia Iger: I enjoy we together, was a good meeting.
    Dakini Rhode: now i did :-)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: Ok. I am ready to go.
    Pia Iger accepted your inventory offer.
    Fael Illyar: Yes, nice meeting :)
    Fael Illyar accepted your inventory offer.
    Adams Rubble accepted your inventory offer.
    Dakini Rhode: yes!
    Adams Rubble: thank you Dakini
    Dakini Rhode: deep thinkers :-)
    Dakini Rhode: I’m impressed by the depth and focus of your practice - all 3
    Dakini Rhode: very strong group, here
    Pia Iger: feel beautiful.
    Adams Rubble: We have had good mentors
    Pia Iger: the connection.
    Dakini Rhode: it does
    Fael Illyar: Yes, I don’t think I’d have managed without everyone to talk about this with :)
    Dakini Rhode: Pema will be so happy to read

    [Pema Pera: :)]

    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pia Iger: so long. until next time.
    Dakini Rhode: ok Pia
    Dakini Rhode: sayonara
    Fael Illyar: Bye Pia :)
    Adams Rubble: bye, Dakini, Pia and Fael
    Fael Illyar: See you again soon :)
    Dakini Rhode: i think i should make these pillows switch animations
    Dakini Rhode: bye…
    Fael Illyar: Yes, having animation switch when clicking would be easier to use than having to choose a position.
    Dakini Rhode: yes
    Adams Rubble: Yes
    Dakini Rhode: haha keep improving pema’s pillows
    Dakini Rhode: he won’t even know them…

    [Ha! That's what you think . . .]

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