2008.06.23 19:00 - A 9-second moment

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    That evening, Thorberg was the guardian. He sent me the chat log, while the comments are mine. The title was suggested by Pia, harking back to a remark by Sylectra.

    Pia, Stevenaia and Thorberg greet each other, near the tea house.

    Pia Iger: Hi, Prof, Thor.
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Thorberg
    Thorberg Nordlicht: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: see you at the pavilian
    Pia Iger: you know we meet at new place?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: yes, i saw it in Pema’s blog
    Thorberg Nordlicht: I just topped by here because there’s nobody in the new place
    Pia Iger: Ok. let’s go.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: you going to hang around here in case anybody shows up here?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: or come along with me back to the new place?

    Sylectra was arriving as well, and started talking while rezzing.

    Sylectra Darwin: It’s so nice to be absconded the instant I log in
    Sylectra Darwin: um, perhaps I should change
    Sylectra Darwin: greetings
    stevenaia Michinaga: quite a change
    Sylectra Darwin: ty
    Sylectra Darwin: sorry, still had my party outfit on
    Sylectra Darwin: did I get all my buttons?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hope not
    Sylectra Darwin: hehe, I love you Steven
    Sylectra Darwin: you’re good for a girl’s ego
    Sylectra Darwin: bad day but glad to be here
    stevenaia Michinaga: … thank you,
    stevenaia Michinaga: happy to do what I can
    Sylectra Darwin: how are you?
    stevenaia Michinaga: how was the weekend here, I’ve been away
    Sylectra Darwin: It was very nice!
    Sylectra Darwin: today is SL’s birthday you know
    stevenaia Michinaga: really, how old is it?
    Sylectra Darwin: hello Thorberg, I finally rezzed and saw you there
    Sylectra Darwin: 5 years

    Happy Birthday, Second Life!

    Thorberg Nordlicht: hello, everyone
    Thorberg Nordlicht: i was distracted making sure i have text chat logging turned on so i can send the transcript to Pema
    Sylectra Darwin: Hi Pia
    Pia Iger: Hi, Syl,
    Sylectra Darwin: Technical details! hehe
    Sylectra Darwin: Good to see you
    Sylectra Darwin: This tea house is absolutely smashing!
    Pia Iger: Is there a party for the birthday?
    Sylectra Darwin: Yes, I think so. I got quite a few notices
    Sylectra Darwin: let me look it up
    Sylectra Darwin: well darn it - I deleted it already!
    Thorberg Nordlicht: I wonder if there are folks hanging around over at the tea house who don’t know we’re meeting over here now
    stevenaia Michinaga: Daniki was there
    Pia Iger: not likely
    Thorberg Nordlicht: there *is* a sign, but it’s *not* very big
    Thorberg Nordlicht: ok, i won’t worry about it then
    Sylectra Darwin: I see one person on the mini-map
    Thorberg Nordlicht: oh, good point, the mini-map, i should have thought of that
    Pia Iger: maybe that is Dakini
    Sylectra Darwin: no one is currently in the tea house
    Thorberg Nordlicht: thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: well Happy birthday to all the Lindens, we have alot to be thankful for
    Sylectra Darwin: sure
    Sylectra Darwin: Indeed! I never would have met you lovely people otherwise.

    Good point!

    Thorberg Nordlicht: agree
    Sylectra Darwin: I was at the summer solstice event on Happy Clam Island Saturday night
    Sylectra Darwin: Amazing
    Sylectra Darwin: One of the builders had created a huge wicker man which they set alight at 10 p.m.
    Sylectra Darwin: It burned all night.
    Sylectra Darwin: I have never seen anything like it here.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: ((sorry i missed that))
    Sylectra Darwin: smiles
    Sylectra Darwin: there is always something wonderful happening somewhere on SL
    Pia Iger: I have not explored around yet
    stevenaia Michinaga: creativity seems to thrive here
    Sylectra Darwin: yes!
    Sylectra Darwin: Steven knows a number of places of architectural interest as well
    Pia Iger: oh, what kind?
    stevenaia Michinaga: aactually I ahev been more impressed by the unlikely architects
    stevenaia Michinaga: there are places where RL architect experiment, you can search on Architect
    Pia Iger: Oh, I am interested to take a look.
    stevenaia Michinaga: but they usually don;t focus on the “comfortable” like this place
    Sylectra Darwin: I think I will get rid of all my furniture in RL and get floor cushions
    Pia Iger: possible. We know how we will use the place and build upon that.
    Sylectra Darwin: form follows function
    Pia Iger: not me, I like couch.
    Sylectra Darwin: I am a big fan of zen design
    Sylectra Darwin: hehe, couch is good too
    Thorberg Nordlicht: bean bag chairs
    Sylectra Darwin: fun!

    The conversation moved from cushions and couches to clothes.

    Pia Iger: Just curious, Thor, do you make your own clothes?
    Sylectra Darwin: I think that minimalist style is very soothing - that’s what I love about asian inspired design.
    Pia Iger: agree, Syl
    Thorberg Nordlicht: no, i don’t make my own clothes; why do you ask?
    Pia Iger: because they look tailored for your avatar,
    Sylectra Darwin: yes, they fit very well
    Thorberg Nordlicht: haha; i guess that’s a compliment; maybe i tailored the avatar shape for the suit, like the old joke
    Pia Iger: Also they are quite put together, the jacket w/ elbow patches, goes well with your whole look.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: check out the shoes
    Pia Iger: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: you going to model for us?
    Pia Iger: cool, color match
    stevenaia Michinaga: but do the sox match?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: aw shucks
    Pia Iger: very English scholar-ish
    Thorberg Nordlicht: that’s it
    stevenaia Michinaga: I knew it
    Sylectra Darwin: I love the laces
    Pia Iger: yes,details too
    Sylectra Darwin: sox are overrated
    Thorberg Nordlicht: hmm, you got me on the socks, steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: and matching sox less so
    Sylectra Darwin: Do does anyone want to talk about something in particular today?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: :)
    Pia Iger: I assume Syl wants.
    stevenaia Michinaga: sox don’t cut it anymore?
    Sylectra Darwin: Nah, just have productivity guilt. Hard day at work
    Sylectra Darwin: Sox cut it fine!
    Sylectra Darwin: :)
    Thorberg Nordlicht: we could talk about the Zen of sox
    Pia Iger: all ears:)

    From socks to zen.

    Thorberg Nordlicht: not sure what there would be to say on the subject, but i’m sure we cold come up with something
    Sylectra Darwin: Well, socks are associated with comfort, are they not?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: true
    stevenaia Michinaga: I know little about zen , first of all there seems to be much about it, zen poroducts, zen style, define zen….. in 15 words or less, ofcourse
    Thorberg Nordlicht: they keep your feet warm in the cold Zendo
    Sylectra Darwin: zen is trendy these days
    Pia Iger: painful to run without socks, I know for sure!
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, a bit overwhleming
    stevenaia Michinaga: it seems to attach itself to everything
    Sylectra Darwin: what does, Steven?
    stevenaia Michinaga: zen
    Sylectra Darwin: zen?
    Sylectra Darwin: Ah yes.
    Sylectra Darwin: I have a zen kitty.
    Sylectra Darwin: My decor is very zen
    stevenaia Michinaga: I assume it;s a state of Bing?
    Sylectra Darwin: I wish I were in a zen mood.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Being
    Sylectra Darwin: maybe it’s a state of ping.
    Sylectra Darwin: PING!
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok, Syl, tell me about a zen mood
    Sylectra Darwin: hmmmm, happily
    Sylectra Darwin: A zen mood is one in which I go with the flow - just accept everything that is and stop being aware of the passage of time.
    Sylectra Darwin: When I am deeply immersed in a creative project
    Sylectra Darwin: After about the third hour, it hits me that I am finally happy.
    Sylectra Darwin: I am not a happy person by nature
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww, clearer than I had imagined
    Pia Iger: What is a Zen kitty like?
    Sylectra Darwin: That’s easy - they know zen by heart
    Sylectra Darwin: See sunbeam - lay in sunbeam. Purr. Repeat.
    Sylectra Darwin: Ya gotta love a creature that gets such obvious pleasure from such a lovely simple thing.

    From the zen of cats to the zen of dogs.

    Sylectra Darwin: I want to tell you guys about a hike I took with my dog sophy on Sunday.
    Pia Iger: Please.
    Sylectra Darwin: Steven, am I interrupting?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no
    stevenaia Michinaga: interrupting what?
    Sylectra Darwin: Okay. Well I hiked on a small mountain near my home with my yellow lab and my ipod
    Sylectra Darwin: I saw you typing so thought I should ask
    Sylectra Darwin: It’s oakey woods on that mountain
    Sylectra Darwin: The trails were musky and wet from all the rain we’ve been having.
    Sylectra Darwin: So very few mountain bikers for a change - peaceful!
    Sylectra Darwin: We hiked all over that mountain, maybe 5 miles or so. And then I decided to take a 9-second pause in a clearing full of prairie grasses and flowers.
    Sylectra Darwin: When I came out of it, every stalk of grass glowed with efforvescent light, and the wild carrot umbels swayed gently in the breeze.
    Sylectra Darwin: There was a nutty sweet smell like sugar-roasted almonds in teh air.
    Sylectra Darwin: Beautiful moment
    Pia Iger: I have a similar experience with sunset.
    stevenaia Michinaga: sounds lovely
    Pia Iger: 9-sec make us more sensitive to things around us
    Pia Iger: It is kind of like awakening, if I can say.
    Sylectra Darwin: I understand completely.
    Sylectra Darwin: Do you have nice sunsets where you live, Pia?
    Pia Iger: Yes, river, hills, and clouds, flowers, bridges
    Pia Iger: they become more poetic after 9sec pause.
    Sylectra Darwin: oh, nice!

    And back to the 9-sec explorations!

    stevenaia Michinaga: I seem to be taken with those moments when I go to the museum and react to and obsorb the art I am looking ar
    stevenaia Michinaga: at
    Pia Iger: can you give a specific piece of art, that impressed you more?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: :)
    Pia Iger: Syl was very detailed, she said “nutty sweet smell”
    Pia Iger: :)
    Sylectra Darwin: it was intoxicating, like a clean dog on a warm day
    stevenaia Michinaga: actually, most art has something to offer, even in SL, there’s a place icalled The Second Louvre Museum, where there is much ironic and beautiful art to be absorbed into
    Sylectra Darwin: I’ve been there at Steven’s suggestion
    stevenaia Michinaga: it takes you places… in those momentary encounters
    Sylectra Darwin: I love the 60-foot tall phantom girl.
    stevenaia Michinaga: and adds to your experences
    Sylectra Darwin: yes!
    Pia Iger: Thor, do you want to share anything?
    Tea Cup whispers: Tea Time!
    Thorberg Nordlicht: no, i’m juggling dinner plates, cats, and laptops in real life
    Sylectra Darwin: hahaha, Thor
    Pia Iger: that is something!
    stevenaia Michinaga: but that also applies to anything else you encounter in life, it becomes part of your existence, to use, reflect on in the future and affect change in your thinking
    Sylectra Darwin: good point
    Thorberg Nordlicht: so, right at the moment, it’s all i can do to just *follow* the conversation
    Pia Iger: ok.
    stevenaia Michinaga: as does the 9 secs, I suppose
    Sylectra Darwin: Would it be odd to use the 9 seconds as a kind of precursor to a pleasant surprise, as we were talking about? Like opening a present after making yourself mentally quiet.

    What a fun idea :-)

    Sylectra Darwin: Is that against the intention of the practice?
    Pia Iger: No,it is not.
    Sylectra Darwin: It is a beautiful thing to experience.
    Sylectra Darwin: I like eating dinner when I am truly hungry, for the same reason. Lovely contrast.
    Pia Iger: Part of the practice is highten our appreciation.
    Sylectra Darwin: excellent!
    Sylectra Darwin: I will practice more tomorrow
    Pia Iger: so it includes, appreciate a present,or a dinner, or arts.
    Sylectra Darwin: appreciate life! the air - your breath
    Pia Iger: exactly.
    Sylectra Darwin: hanggliding!
    Sylectra Darwin: hehe
    Pia Iger: no experience here.
    Sylectra Darwin: me neither.
    Sylectra Darwin: on the checklist.
    Sylectra Darwin: Things to do before I die.

    Syl talked about a moving experience.

    Sylectra Darwin: I also would like to mention that I took a few minutes to read a random page in my mother’s journal - she died in Dec. 2006.
    Pia Iger: oh?
    Sylectra Darwin: She was talking about the Sept. 11 crisis and how it affected her.
    Sylectra Darwin: Then she talked of feeling a strong need to change something about her life.
    Sylectra Darwin: She found an ostrich feather and she was big into interpreting symbols from nature.
    Sylectra Darwin: So the ostrich to her meant the courage to make a change but remain vulnerable, exposed, flightless.
    Pia Iger: Wow.
    Sylectra Darwin: This parallels my own life beautifully as I am making many changes right now.
    Sylectra Darwin: I picked the journal at random from more than 20 of them, and this is the page I opened it to. She’d be tripping out! LOL
    Sylectra Darwin: that’s when I chose to take the 9-second moment
    Thorberg Nordlicht: “a 9-second moment”
    Sylectra Darwin: grin
    Thorberg Nordlicht: someone should start a PasB glossary: “micro-meditation”, “9-second moment”
    Sylectra Darwin: Great idea, Thorberg. Wikis are very good mediums for this kind of thing so soon we will be able to do just that.
    Pia Iger: Syl is on the tech team.
    Sylectra Darwin: I am the hack writer hanging around with the big kids, LOL
    Thorberg Nordlicht: works for me
    Sylectra Darwin: Perhaps there is some way I can make myself useful among these intellectual giants.
    Sylectra Darwin: One of our group members has actually set up 7 wikis!
    Sylectra Darwin: I was amazed.
    Pia Iger: I dont know!
    Pia Iger: I am so happy to be with this group.
    Sylectra Darwin: smiles
    Thorberg Nordlicht: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, as am I

    And so am I :-)

    stevenaia Michinaga: I have heard much to reflect on here
    Sylectra Darwin: me too!
    stevenaia Michinaga: do any of you attend the other daily sessons?
    Pia Iger: no time.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I sould read those blogs some time
    Pia Iger: I do read most blogs.
    Sylectra Darwin: no
    Thorberg Nordlicht: occasionally
    Pia Iger: There are fascinating talks. people from other timezones go to other sessions.
    Sylectra Darwin: I wasn’t really aware of the other times.
    stevenaia Michinaga: 7 and 1, am and pm
    Sylectra Darwin: You know what might be nice? A notecard giver at this site so that people happening upon the place can get a schedule.
    Pia Iger: It was discussed.
    Sylectra Darwin: The photos I post on my Flickr account all have live links to this place, so it would be good to have info for them when they arrive.
    Pia Iger: they are drafting the notecard, as far as I know.
    Sylectra Darwin: good deal
    Pia Iger: This group only started since april. so it is developing.
    Sylectra Darwin: depends on how many attendees we can handle, of course
    Sylectra Darwin: ooo, I am getting started near the same time!
    Sylectra Darwin: I’ve been on SL since Nov 2007 but haven’t been socially active until March.
    Pia Iger: I am glad you came here.
    Sylectra Darwin: Me too! Thank you.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I haven;t stopped, as you can meet so many lovely people
    Pia Iger: Are the people here more coherent?
    Thorberg Nordlicht: similar story for me: found this group by chance; would have missed it if i’d wandered by at a different time; first time i’ve socialized since starting in sl 18 months ago
    Thorberg Nordlicht: you mean us? are *we* more coherent??

    That would be a bit surprising :>)

    Sylectra Darwin: did it open up whole new worlds to you like it did me?
    stevenaia Michinaga: here? this place or SL in general, Pai
    Pia Iger: I mean this place.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: well, i find this prefereable to the sl “club” scene
    Sylectra Darwin: more meaningful interactions
    Thorberg Nordlicht: i find it’s the only place in sl i can carry on a coherent conversation with most people i meet
    stevenaia Michinaga: I find the discussion less coherent as it’s deeper and explores more and takes more to understand, which can me more or less coherent
    stevenaia Michinaga: can be
    Thorberg Nordlicht: whereas i *cannot* carry on a coherent conversation with most avatars i encounter in the sl clubs
    Thorberg Nordlicht: seems to an interest in comparative religion, eastern thought, and buddhism filters for a certain kind of person
    Thorberg Nordlicht: i think it’s amazing how the group has matured in only a few months
    Thorberg Nordlicht: undoubtedly as a result of the hard work of our founders
    Sylectra Darwin: I like the openness.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: Pema and Dakini in particular
    Sylectra Darwin: I can see that!
    Thorberg Nordlicht: but besides that, there seems to be a “right place, right time” thing going on to bring together this particular group of people in this medium (SL) at this time
    Sylectra Darwin: Cool deal. Trippy, even.
    stevenaia Michinaga: and don;t forget the right people…pema
    Pia Iger: Cultivating this group needs open-heart and open-mind, which is rare.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: i guess part of what i’m saying is there are probably lots of avatars in recent SL history who thought, “how ’bout we start this group, and…” and they have great plans, but somehow it just *doesn’t* all come together

    Yes, I (Pema speaking) am very well aware of it, having tried to get groups together without that much success for the last 46 years, ever since I was nine years old :>). Most groups lasted for a few months and then started to peter out. PaB is only 3 months out, but it sure seems to grow roots, and may well last for years and decades. I at least have never seen this kind of early success before. The merit must lie partly in SL and partly in the wonderful group of PaB guardians!

    Thorberg Nordlicht: i just think it’s an interesting phenomenon going on that PasB *does* seems to be working on some level
    Pia Iger: Phenomenon, I think so.
    Sylectra Darwin: Well, i should be winding down for the evening
    Pia Iger: I just notice we been here more than an hour.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: ok, Sylectra; thanks for coming by tonight
    Sylectra Darwin: thank you as well
    Thorberg Nordlicht: yeah, the hour came and went a while ago
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes see you all soon
    Pia Iger: nice chat. Thanks, all.
    Sylectra Darwin: yes, nice.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: nice to see everyone, tonight
    Pia Iger: night. I think we can title this talk w /” a 9-sec moment”
    Pia Iger: I like that.
    Sylectra Darwin: have a good evening, all.
    Thorberg Nordlicht: yes, i like the term “9-second moment” also
    Sylectra Darwin: ty, ty
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pia Iger: ok. bye.

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