2009.07.02 07:00 - Eye of Peace

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    The Guardian for this meeting was a half-awake Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

    Yakuzza and I begin the session discussing the muggy weather, and then life-changing storms. 

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey there
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yakuzza!
    Eliza Madrigal: Good to see you today :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx, you too but i would prefer living in a fridge today :D
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 30 C° here in the room
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i guess thats common for florida :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but here its just too much with too much water in the air, so just muggy
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, this is exactly the weather here...muggy!
    Eliza Madrigal: However...can't complain too much...no hurricanes as of yet :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, ok we don´t have that threat
    Eliza Madrigal: It has been a few years since we've been hit, however there is always this build up of preparation...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you live in such an american house just made of wood ?
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no. My first story is very solid. My second floor might go in a major storm though
    Eliza Madrigal: So if the threat is intense, as with Hurricane Andrew, then we go somewhere else :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or if cathrina is taking the wrong way
    Eliza Madrigal: yes...Katrina went through here before it became a monster
    Eliza Madrigal: I think that Miami is just beginning to recover from Andrew in some ways....
    Yakuzza Lethecus: when was andrew ?
    Eliza Madrigal: the tree cover in certain areas, etc.
    Eliza Madrigal: 1992! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: My daughter was 3 weeks old when that hit... was quite a time
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can imagine
    Yakuzza Lethecus: did you leave florida by that time ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do they open all sides on a highway to leave in one direction ?
    Eliza Madrigal: : ) Nope... we did go through the storm, however in a family member's closet :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and yes.. at certain points...especially from the keys where folks are stubborn
    Yakuzza Lethecus: any basements ?
    Eliza Madrigal: and back then pets weren't cared for very well so no one wanted to evacuate
    Eliza Madrigal: No basements here :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: here pretty much every house is made of stone and most houses have a basement
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice :)
    Eliza Madrigal: What I learned from Andrew is to always be ready to walk away from 'things'
    Yakuzza Lethecus: obviously a couple of roofs fly away in mayor stone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but usually it doesn´t look like the pictures from thee states where entire town are nearly in dust
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah...yes thankfully. Most storms come and go...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we had a bit storm 2 years ago
    Yakuzza Lethecus: half of our forests here are gone since then
    Yakuzza Lethecus: too many monocultures
    Eliza Madrigal: that takes the longest. It is a natural process and yet the heat difference is great after trees are removed, for a while.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrill_storm)

    Adams arrives

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey adams
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams. You look spiffy today :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Hi Yakuza and Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yakuzza, the page seems not to have too much
    Eliza Madrigal: on the storm
    Adams Dubrovna: I probably won;t be able to stay but wanted to stop in :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Glad you did!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, the german page is bigger
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i guess you can´t read german ?
    Eliza Madrigal: We were talking about storms a bit... causing me to think, in light of conversation last night, about the pauses within those huge storms...the eye of peace
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, not yet Ya :))
    Yakuzza Lethecus: adams: did you watch the john adams miniseries ? :)
    Adams Dubrovna: not this last one. There was an Adams series on PBS years ago
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i didn´t even know anything about the 2nd president before that :)
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Abigail Adams was an incredible person
    Eliza Madrigal: What is the first thing that comes to mind about her Adams?
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: brilliant
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Was she the first ,real first lady" ?
    Adams Dubrovna: No Martha Washington was
    Adams Dubrovna: Sadly, most women did not receive the education Abigail had received

    Didn't realize I'd cut into a conversation here at first. :)

    Eliza Madrigal just returned with coffee (did not sleep much last night : )
    Adams Dubrovna: Ohh, sorry to hear that Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Not at all. Last night I was very sleepy during the session here, but by the time it ended I felt energized...was up posting the log at 1:45AM :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I have that happen to me with the late night sessions
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah abigail never visited school but became homeschooled and spend much time in the extendet library of her farther :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: A love for learning/reading/sharing ideas is far different from schooling.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: right
    Eliza Madrigal: I sometimes worry about layers the well-schooled need to get through to find that 'joy'
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sometimes on the 1 pm session i fall asleep literaly
    Eliza Madrigal: bad sentence, but you see my point :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: because i like to watch it from my couch then
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have to stand up at 4:30 am and 1pm is 10 pm for me here
    Eliza Madrigal: I nearly attended last night's 1AM but thought better of it. This is what kept me up mostly:
    Eliza Madrigal: Pema Pera: after all, most of us have *at least* one moment in a whole day that we are suddenly struck by something, suddenly pulled out of our own reveries by the immediacy of something that happens or the immediacy of a sudden insight or idea that pops up
    Eliza Madrigal: So I got to thinking about *Immediacy*
    Eliza Madrigal: and about our group explorations...that it is the pauses which string us together...
    Eliza Madrigal: whether we are here or not
    Adams Dubrovna: hmmm
    Adams Dubrovna: On one level yes
    Adams Dubrovna: I have a sense there is more :)
    Eliza Madrigal: We stop on a mountain with family and we stop farther within that stop perhaps, due to our stops here
    Adams Dubrovna: holding us together that is
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes.... but do you think the pauses might be a sort of heartbeat, in a way?
    Adams Dubrovna: I agree there is something in what you say :)
    Adams Dubrovna: If I think about it long enough I might go as far as you do too :)
    Adams Dubrovna: But I can't help noticing that we all have some similar interests
    Adams Dubrovna: we care about the environment for one
    Eliza Madrigal: this is true :)
    Adams Dubrovna: we all love to go out an appreciate the world around us

    Eliza Madrigal: Deep Appreciation...the kind wherein one is not as aware of 'self as apart' comes alive within real pauses...
    Adams Dubrovna nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Yakuzza, do you find the 9 seconds valuable? I know that you have been learning to relax more :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: 9 seconds don´t really reach for me
    Eliza Madrigal: Is that due to feeling a pressure to remember the time?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can´t just ,,switch into relaxation"
    Eliza Madrigal: Ahhh
    Eliza Madrigal: Some here stop and count breaths... that is how I started with it I believe...maybe 9 breaths instead of 9 seconds :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I find the regularity helpful when I stick to it
    Adams Dubrovna: sadly I have not been so regualr lately
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: This is how I've felt about longer meditations....
    Eliza Madrigal: started noticing myself come out of them completely after 15 minutes
    Adams Dubrovna: Good to see where negative energy might be building up
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's true. Sometimes in those pauses I stop and notice whether my forehead is crinkled...
    Eliza Madrigal: notice that I'm carrying something without realizing it

    Someone new to me, but not so new to Play as Being it seems, arrives...

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Benedizione
    Benedizione Vita: hello eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome to Play as Being :) Have you been here before?
    Benedizione Vita: a long time ago :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah :) So you know that we record our chats then :)
    Benedizione Vita: thank you for the welcome
    Benedizione Vita: yes
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Benedizione
    Benedizione Vita: hello adams
    Eliza Madrigal: You've been in SL since 2007 Benedizione. My goodness!
    Benedizione Vita: is that a long time? it has not been so regular... I started when Pema started
    Eliza Madrigal: That seems so long to me (have been here since January only)
    Benedizione Vita: haha yes, but your avatar is already much more beautiful than mine haha
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Ah, you're quite familiar with PaB then! We were just discussing the 9 second pauses every 15 minutes...the idea of that
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh well thanks :) Important for me to know that a pretty girl can be taken seriously..hehe
    Benedizione Vita: yes, I was listening
    Benedizione Vita: haha ;^)
    Benedizione Vita: I am doing a different practice at the moment, but I was curious to come see how this one is going
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, something you'd like to share?
    Benedizione Vita: I tend to speak in riddles
    Benedizione Vita: :^)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Benedizione Vita: what a great feature! things have improved a lot since I was last here
    Eliza Madrigal: Isn't the bell marvelous?
    Eliza Madrigal: Was the pavillion built when last you attended? Then meetings were in the tea hut before...
    Adams Dubrovna: It is nice you visitied us again Benezione
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed :)
    Benedizione Vita: if I remember correctly the pavilion had just been built
    Benedizione Vita: but I was only here briefly, then
    Benedizione Vita: I went to some tea hut meetings, I think
    Adams Dubrovna: There was a second pavilion near the tea hut
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's right. :)

    I wonder how many others feel this way? How are we affected by knowing that conversations are recorded? My suspicion is that we might be more affected if not as SL AVs but as first-life AVs.  

    Benedizione Vita: you know it is interesting, the recording aspect of things... I feel like every sentence has to be profound
    Adams Dubrovna: nah
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: lots and lots of very silly sentences in the logs
    Benedizione Vita: good to know
    Benedizione Vita: maybe those are the best ones
    Eliza Madrigal nods vigorously
    Eliza Madrigal: Afterall it is PLAY as Being :)
    Benedizione Vita: hahaha indeed
    Benedizione Vita: my own practice sometimes consists of remembering that, instead of "working salt mines as being"
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe...great way to express that....
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes we take things/ourselves/others too seriously
    Eliza Madrigal: get all wrapped up :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Might you say more about that Ben (if I may call you Ben ;-)
    Benedizione Vita: too seriously for what? serious question ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well as you said about the recording... that some may feel a pressure to be profound :)
    Eliza Madrigal: when maybe the best place is a simple one
    Eliza Madrigal: Simply sharing
    Adams Dubrovna: I think I only think about the recording when I am GOC :)
    Benedizione Vita: GOC?
    Adams Dubrovna: Guardian on Call as Eliza is today
    Benedizione Vita: ah
    Benedizione Vita: nice acronym
    Adams Dubrovna salutes Eliza
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Benedizione Vita: let me back up a minute and try to collect some things
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes the recording does fade from view generally
    Benedizione Vita: I don't talk, or talk in metaphors, and then watch out it's old faithful
    Benedizione Vita: anyway, so we started with "the recording can suggest a need for profundity"
    Benedizione Vita: and then "maybe silly is best"
    Benedizione Vita: so in the first case there is a sense that profound is best, and in the second case there is a sense that silly is best
    Adams Dubrovna says hello to the recorder
    Benedizione Vita: best for what? for "play as being"?
    Benedizione Vita: then, "sometimes we get wrapped up too tight"
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh... No, best is what is natural...what arises organically IMO...but if you're going to track my leaps of thought hold on to something or take a dramamine :)
    Benedizione Vita: too tight for what? also for play as being? maybe life in general? how tight can we wrap before it is too tight? and how tight can we wrap and still play?
    Benedizione Vita: ooh dramamine sounds good hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Adams Dubrovna: In answer to the wrapped too tight, that is where the brief regular steops come in handy
    Adams Dubrovna: force us to look at what we are doing
    Adams Dubrovna: it is not the "how" of stopping but just the stopping
    Eliza Madrigal nods and smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: This morning's conversation focusing on the pauses arose out of last night's a bit, which sometimes happens.
    Adams Dubrovna hopes Pema is reading this :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I guess also in the pauses one might ask themselves whether they are 'wrapped up' or whether they might relax and play a bit more... allow themselves to Be
    Eliza Madrigal: and greet everything that arises with fresh eyes, so to speak
    Adams Dubrovna: or look at things from a different direction
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: When we do that for ourselves, we naturally do that for each other :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ben, let me give you a notecard so that you can read the wiki if you'd like to...
    Benedizione Vita: ladies and gentlemen, it has been a pleasure, but the time for me to retire is at hand
    Benedizione Vita: ah, thank you eliza
    Benedizione Vita: I used the link from the wiki to get here :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Pleasure to meet you Benedizione :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I hope you'll stop by again some time
    Adams Dubrovna: nice to meet you benezione
    Benedizione Vita: thank you; I think the odds are good :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I must go too and meet a student
    Adams Dubrovna: bye everyone :)
    Benedizione Vita: nice to meet you as well, adams, and Yakuzza
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Adams, enjoy your day
    Eliza Madrigal: Yakuzza often falls alseep at PaB...was telling us this earlier
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal: (wonders if my saying that wakes him up)
    Eliza Madrigal sings "Heyyyy Yaa... Hey Yaaaa" :)
    Eliza Madrigal: No objections to my turning off the log I hope :)

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