2009.07.09 07:00 - Being a Penguin

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

Adams and I made a new friend this session...

Ninja Easterman: hello
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ninja :)
Eliza Madrigal: Join me if you like ?
Eliza Madrigal: Fascinating av...very interesting :)
Ninja Easterman: when is the descution
Eliza Madrigal: Ah.. we're here 4 times a day...hae just given you a notecard about Play as Being.
Eliza Madrigal: One moment..doorbell
Eliza Madrigal: Ah..back :)'
Ninja Easterman: lots that come cross like my avatar must be doin something right eh,,,,,,lol
Eliza Madrigal: It has been an interesting morning here in Miami... comings and goings :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed!
Eliza Madrigal: Is it that you are part of a roleplay community?
Ninja Easterman: have not learned to build much just mess with the avatar
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
Adams Dubrovna: Good morning Eliza
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Ninja
Ninja Easterman: just me i was a man before......lol
Ninja Easterman: hello
Adams Dubrovna: Tghat happens in SL :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles, yes
Ninja Easterman: i am much better to look at as woman .....
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Dubrovna: Maybe depends on who is looking :)
Eliza Madrigal: Have you been to Play as Being before, Ninja?
Eliza Madrigal: hah Adams..yes this must be true :)
Ninja Easterman: woman is most interesten creature.....
Eliza Madrigal: I need to let you know that we record our conversations. If you aren't comfortable with that, I can edit your name out if you like :)
Eliza Madrigal: Women in SL do have many choices
Eliza Madrigal: but then men have the option of being women, which is a pretty big option..hah
Ninja Easterman: no thats alright.....what they use it for my conversation
Eliza Madrigal: (and visa versa of course)

I didn't understand Ninja's question at first. That might have been interesting to discuss, but we found other things. I had been turning over a discussing yesterday in SL, about 'in betweenness'.

Eliza Madrigal: I came across a beautiful idea this morning... "if there is meeting, there must be parting"...the idea being that within each meeting is the seed of the parting...
Ninja Easterman: nice.....lol
Eliza Madrigal: yes I thought so... thought it is a little taste of the nature of appreciation?
Adams Dubrovna: Ninja, you have Play as Being on your profile :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah been here before....
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice :) Welcome back
Adams Dubrovna: Yes, nice to have you back :)
Adams Dubrovna: sorry to break up uour thought Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: No worries Adams, that was about it...just wanted to share :)
Eliza Madrigal: Does anyone have a topic on their mind today?
Ninja Easterman: hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ninja Easterman: blank....lol
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Well here is another idea related to the first... in betweenness
Eliza Madrigal: A teacher here in SL yesterday talked about being aware of the 'in betweenness'...meaning not 'you', not 'me'....
Eliza Madrigal: but that which is all... a web/net of interrelatedness :)
Ninja Easterman: ah
Adams Dubrovna: Excuse me, I have a problme here that needs adressing so I will be AFK for a few minutes
Eliza Madrigal: np Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: So i thought that this wording was interesting in context of Play as Being...
Eliza Madrigal: that here we are about playing in that betweeness :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah word thing a little to much here get confused....
Ninja Easterman: im of little words to make a point thats me....
Eliza Madrigal nods...me too sometimes :)
Eliza Madrigal: There is much, MUCH, I don't 'understand in a way that I could articulate...
Eliza Madrigal: yet there is a deeper and more 'real' understanding underneath that... I think for all of us
Ninja Easterman: hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: and maybe that is Being... that is where we just are... not have/do... just are. :)
Ninja Easterman: being what would you call it....?
Eliza Madrigal: Presence?
Ninja Easterman: ah
Eliza Madrigal: Maybe, what do you think?
Ninja Easterman: i would say that....
Ninja Easterman: can loose presense if one do not live .......
Eliza Madrigal: you mean that sense of excitement/passion for what one is doing?
Ninja Easterman: yeah
Eliza Madrigal nods
Ninja Easterman: people can get bored....lose sense of being
Eliza Madrigal: The idea of the pauses (here 90 seconds but as a general idea 9) is that by taking that quiet moment, one might find themselves clearer the rest of the time? More passionate/engaged?
Ninja Easterman: yeah herd that it makes sense

A pause, and I look over at Adams...

Eliza Madrigal: Adams has such good posture...hah
Ninja Easterman: looks like crazy busness man....
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...yes, the tie slightly loosened as though he is scurrying...
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, well so much for the posture then :)
Ninja Easterman: had hard day at office.....goin to snap
Eliza Madrigal: yes.... needs to take time to breathe :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahah

How one arrives, and Martial Arts...

Eliza Madrigal: Ninja, when were you here before? During a discussion?
Ninja Easterman: yeah.....just come across the place
Eliza Madrigal: : ) I don't want to interview you, but am always curious to know how people happen upon us :)
Ninja Easterman: can not remember how.......hmmm
Ninja Easterman: ah think i saw it in someones prohile.......zen retreat
Eliza Madrigal: Ah! :) yes, I sit there too
Eliza Madrigal: I came from zen retreat one night... in the balloon
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ninja Easterman: im into asian thing a bit......
Eliza Madrigal: yes?
Ninja Easterman: do you do martial arts ......?
Eliza Madrigal: Not externally, you? :)
Ninja Easterman: judo....
Eliza Madrigal: I'm fond of yoga... but I'm not sure that's considered a martial art
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice
Ninja Easterman: yoga have tried it becram yoga in a hot room killer...
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...yes
Eliza Madrigal: What do you like about judo?
Ninja Easterman: it is hard like martial art....becram
Ninja Easterman: i find being a lot there ....just good for all things in life
Eliza Madrigal: yes, that's a kind of meditation also... being attentive to movement... sharpness
Eliza Madrigal: concentration
Adams Dubrovna: Back, don;t let me interrupt :)
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back Adams :)

Be the creature...

Eliza Madrigal: (the morning crew is waking here... my son has brought his penguin for me to say hello to...hehe)
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Penguin :)
Ninja Easterman: howdy.....
Eliza Madrigal: He says "hello back" :)
Ninja Easterman: penguin power.....lol
Eliza Madrigal: He is funny with the penguin... it takes on aspects of his personality...
Adams Dubrovna: we have mooses in my house
Eliza Madrigal: so when I'm talking to Mr. Cuddles, I realize that I am sometimes talking to my son in a way he might not otherwise :)
Eliza Madrigal: Moose, really? hah
Adams Dubrovna: like avatars :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes!
Ninja Easterman: ever watch march of the penguins......?
Eliza Madrigal: yes...beautiful film
Ninja Easterman: harsh life......
Adams Dubrovna: I'd say the moose were the first avatars but there was a sock puppet dog and a rabbit before that
Adams Dubrovna: yes, good film
Eliza Madrigal: So sweet to see the dad guard the egg...so long and under yes, such harsh conditions
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...love sock puppets :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah makes yeah look at your own life .......have it easy
Eliza Madrigal: I've felt like those penguins before...
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Adams Dubrovna: the penguins would have a tough timedoing our life :)
Ninja Easterman: true....lol
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Adams Dubrovna: we have to be what we are :)
Adams Dubrovna throws in a platitude there
Eliza Madrigal: yes, and learn from one another... from the penguins, the trees... the ocean :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha Adams :)
Ninja Easterman: :)
Adams Dubrovna: we can see ourselves from a different angle by role playing penguins, moose or opposite gender
Adams Dubrovna: whoops

Missed the bell...

Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ninja Easterman: just what we were talken about martial art ....they do that be like animals..
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Eliza Madrigal: wow yes... great observation... take on aspects and postures...
Eliza Madrigal: view
Adams Dubrovna: I did not know that
Ninja Easterman: makes sense....eh
Ninja Easterman: monkey stile, prayen mantes......etc
Eliza Madrigal nods... a beautiful and intense thing... to see through the eyes of 'another' kind of creature
Adams Dubrovna: hello Bicket
Eliza Madrigal thinks of "kung fu panda"... an animated film I didn't mind seeing with my kids at all...
Bicket Burt: HEy
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bicket, Welcome :)
Bicket Burt: Hey*
Ninja Easterman: yeah have not seen it yet....lol

Another visitor...

Eliza Madrigal: Bicket, have you ever been to Play as Being before?
Bicket Burt: Nope
Bicket Burt: I havent been on the mainland for like 2 months.
Eliza Madrigal: I need to let you know that we record our conversations, so if you'd like not to be included in that, just let me know :)
Bicket Burt: Oh, i dont care.
Eliza Madrigal: Okay :)
Eliza Madrigal: I'm giong to give you a notecard so that you may find our wiki if you like, etc. :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bicket, we were discussing martial arts a moment ago... thoughts ?
Ninja Easterman: you have combat place eh......
Ninja Easterman: hes out a here......lol
Eliza Madrigal: haha...
Eliza Madrigal: departures and arrivals
Bicket Burt: Crashed..
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you made it back quickly then Bicket
Ninja Easterman: can you give me landmark for your place.....bicket?
Bicket Burt: My place..?
Ninja Easterman: thought you had combat place ....?
Bicket Burt: Yeh, a military.
Ninja Easterman: k
Bicket Burt: 1 sec,
Ninja Easterman: thanxs
Bicket Burt: Its being rebuild right now, but public acces should be on
Ninja Easterman: k cool..
Bicket Burt: Gonna go back, nice to meet you all.

Quiet...

And building, and travel...

Eliza Madrigal: We seem to have hit a note of meditative silence :)
Ninja Easterman: lol
Eliza Madrigal: Great Bicket...hope to see you again :)
Adams Dubrovna: bye
Bicket Burt: Bye.
Ninja Easterman: later
Ninja Easterman: do youguys travel in second life .....
Eliza Madrigal: Travel? In what sense, doing more than PaB?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah check out places....
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, a bit. I like to attend teachings and other kinds of discussions also. I also wander and shop, dance at a few places :)
Eliza Madrigal: "A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest (wo)men" :)
Adams Dubrovna: we tend to pursue our interests
Ninja Easterman: ah true
Eliza Madrigal: yes, generally. I'm usually open to new atmospheres though... like to see
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks...wow that looks quite interesting
Ninja Easterman: thats my friends place he is a very good builder i think......
Adams Dubrovna: thank you
Eliza Madrigal: I'll definitely check it out
Eliza Madrigal: What is the place about? (For the log: Ninja has just given us a lm to "Robot Link")
Eliza Madrigal: Ah... gone :) Well, (speaking into the aether) "Bye Ninja, wherever you are. " hehe
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Adams Dubrovna: maybe crashed
Eliza Madrigal: Hm..perhaps
Adams Dubrovna: Hope you liked it :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha..Oh, is that what happened! :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah looked good check it later..lol
Adams Dubrovna: I must go I am afraid
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the lm to San Francesco, Assisi, Adams. I'm always amazed by what SL holds...the projects people are working on :)
Adams Dubrovna: Nice meeting you Ninja. Enjoy the rest of the day :)
Ninja Easterman: see yeah
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Adams, Good to see you as always :)
Eliza Madrigal: Mediums like SL allow such a lower cost for worthy
Eliza Madrigal: work and creativity
Ninja Easterman: do you build on second life....
Eliza Madrigal: well... I suppose for all kinds of creativity... that all has its value :)
Eliza Madrigal: Only a little, Ninja, and with much help from others. You?
Ninja Easterman: ah true im learnen
Eliza Madrigal: What would you like to build?
Ninja Easterman: hmmm
Ninja Easterman: i draw so some thing like that but do it 3d
Eliza Madrigal: Everything I would like to be a part of, I'm so far a part of without building really...like this :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice
Eliza Madrigal: What do you draw?
Ninja Easterman: to much to learn on here ....
Eliza Madrigal: YES, a land of possibilities
Eliza Madrigal: an 'in between' land maybe in some ways:)
Eliza Madrigal: though really it is just us, if you look at it that way
Ninja Easterman: way of the future i think the way yeah use an avatar.....go site to site
Eliza Madrigal: yes, there's been a lot of talk about that recently, with OpenSim... people developing their own grids, as I understand it, and linking them together ... more like the www
Eliza Madrigal: Universities are seeing the potential.
Ninja Easterman: yeah makes sense..
Eliza Madrigal: We have guardians here who are working on those kinds of projects, building for colleges and such.
Ninja Easterman: yeah
Eliza Madrigal: They worked on Miami Dade College in fact, which is close to where I live
Ninja Easterman: cool
Eliza Madrigal: so I wandered over there.. was quite impressed
Eliza Madrigal: The actual college is not on the ocean, but in SL it can be :)
Eliza Madrigal: Who doesn't learn better near the sound of the ocean ? :)
Ninja Easterman: when do they think it will happen../
Eliza Madrigal: I think it happens gradually...bit by bit
Ninja Easterman: ah...
Eliza Madrigal: For instance, I could not have imagined all that was here before I got here. You?
Ninja Easterman: yeah true...
Eliza Madrigal: Also, I didn't think I'd build anything, but when the chance came up, I thought "Okay why not"
Eliza Madrigal: so I guess progress moves along that way. We can't imagine the whole picture perhaps :)
Ninja Easterman: im getten to the builden point now been just exsploren up till now...
Eliza Madrigal: yes, and you've been here for a while...
Eliza Madrigal: more than a year longer than I have! :)
Eliza Madrigal: so that's much to explore!
Ninja Easterman: yeah......need land and place to work on things....
Eliza Madrigal nods... some of the sandboxes are crazy
Ninja Easterman: but have found places i like to go ......
Eliza Madrigal: And you've found us :)
Ninja Easterman: ah true...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow!
Ninja Easterman: can not drop here...eh
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...wasn't sure what was happening there... ahah
Ninja Easterman: robot walker....
Eliza Madrigal: I will need to go in a moment... feed the urchins
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah me to bye....
Eliza Madrigal: I've enjoyed meeting you Ninja
Eliza Madrigal: You know we're here 1,7,1,7... SL time of course :)
Ninja Easterman: yeah your nice to talk to i am at peice....now
Eliza Madrigal: :) So glad :) Me too
Eliza Madrigal: Have a beautiful day then :) Bye for now
Ninja Easterman: bye...