2009.07.04 13:00 - Circles and Zero

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    The Guardian for this meeting was SophiaSharon Larnia. The comments are by SophiaSharon Larnia.


    Nymf Hathaway: Hello Sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Nymf, Hi Yakuzza!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea some is here, I thought maybe it would be empty this afternoon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: someone* :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i was uncertain if i should come to right before this
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am logged in for far too long :)
    Nymf Hathaway: same here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) sometimes i come here and sit
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im logged on too long too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: did you do that??
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you can do that with /9 hide
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh!!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or /9 show
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or /9 help
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i knew it was easy but didnt remember
    Nymf Hathaway: will be logging off is way too tired
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you have anything you want to talk about today
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night nymf
    Nymf Hathaway: wishing you both a nice conversation :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok bye Nymf!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, i believed that there are more people
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and how is the weather in PA ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: 4rth of July in the us, there are alot of parties and stuff going on
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah right
    SophiaSharon Larnia: great! perfect weather
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im actually outside
    Yakuzza Lethecus: happy 4th of july :P
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have you been doing the 9-sec stops Yakuzza?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, that explains why there aren´t that many people areound here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, sure
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sometimes i am a bit lazy


    Yakuzza Lethecus: heay riddle
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Riddle!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: greetings to CA what do you think of arnold after this week ?
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Sophia
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
    Riddle Sideways: my little state is going down
    Yakuzza Lethecus: little is great :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: perhaps it is Riddle Im sorry, I feel that way about where i am too
    Yakuzza Lethecus: more habitants then canada or australia
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is it such a problem in pensylvania too ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: really?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not sure
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cal got more then those countries yeah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: economically
    Yakuzza Lethecus: peple
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah that it´s going down
    Yakuzza Lethecus: k
    Riddle Sideways: wonder where the money for the IOUs is going to come from
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or workers comp
    Yakuzza Lethecus: IOU ?
    Riddle Sideways: they are paying people with IOUs I Owe You
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my sis is in CA, both her and her husband lost their jobs about 6 months ago
    Yakuzza Lethecus: kids ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: of course, my sister worked for a building company
    Riddle Sideways: as usual I am opposite the crowd an got a job about 8 months ago
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes she just had one... 6 months ago (her first)....they were not going to pay her because they sais she wasnt going to work anyway...she had to go to court
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so maybe it´s getting better for her when obama´s investmentplan´s the the infrastructure gettin started
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh good riddle, what do you do??
    Qt Core: hi all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi QT!
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Qt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what are you working riddle ß
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ?
    Riddle Sideways: oh, I write software
    Riddle Sideways: it messes up the aviation industry now
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh, i didnt know that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, the dreamliner
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no new orders for boing and already some stornations
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I still don't hear the bell
    Riddle Sideways: we/us are having something called independence day today
    Riddle Sideways: funny holiday
    Yakuzza Lethecus: on a saturday
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is, i wasnt sure how to bring that up
    Yakuzza Lethecus: right :)
    Riddle Sideways: bet England does not celebrate it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Riddle Sideways: or maybe they do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Yakuzza Lethecus: rofl
    Riddle Sideways: July 4th sometimes is on a Saturday
    SophiaSharon Larnia: reason to party always good
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, better if it´s on a friday or monday tho :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (well, not always)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: chrismas is this year on a thursday
    Yakuzza Lethecus: worst case is on friday
    Riddle Sideways: yes, a republican president years ago moved all holidays to Mondays
    Qt Core: if i'm correct in US you have moved most of your holidays in weekdays, right ?
    Riddle Sideways: Mondays are usually bad so why not improve thim
    Qt Core: ops ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: qt were are you from ?
    Qt Core: italy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: germany here
    Qt Core: we still have the pleasue to bridging holidays with weekend where there is one or two days between them ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: excellent
    Yakuzza Lethecus: now we have the long phase of no holidays at all :(
    Riddle Sideways: it is all in your attitude...
    Riddle Sideways: every Friday isa holiday
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it is :)


    Riddle Sideways: every day is a holiday and every meal a feast
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how much payed vacation days do you get as a nurse sophia ?
    Qt Core: i think it is slightly better, you risk having holidays on sunday or saturday, but you get some more "exitement" and different holiday stretch every years
    SophiaSharon Larnia: want to grab off that statement and swing on it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (riddles)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i forget Yakuzza, its quite alot where i work, it is alotted by the hours you work
    Riddle Sideways: I livied with some people some 30 years ago that chante that phrase
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes to wake every day with that being the first thought
    Riddle Sideways: In fact they have a gathering around July 4th week each year
    Riddle Sideways: the Rainbow Family , of living light
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (seeing rainbows of light)
    Riddle Sideways: now that I am somuch older I know what I means to thank g-d that I awoke this morning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Riddle Sideways: The Rainbow Family go off to a remote public land, national forest, etc. and gather each July
    SophiaSharon Larnia: camping??
    Riddle Sideways: [my network connection is going bad]
    Riddle Sideways: at noon of the 4th they all hold hands forming a circle in a meadow
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive always wanted to do that
    Riddle Sideways: and silently mediate mostly on Peace for the hour
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Saw
    Riddle Sideways: usually between 1,000 and 12,000 people
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what!? Now, that, is awesome
    Riddle Sideways: is very impressive to by part of 6,000 people in a circle aroudn a national meadow
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have a seat if you like, Saw, we are are having a play as being meeting
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the note card is one that post next to you, or I can give you one if you like, Saw
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is on*
    Qt Core: he's gone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yup
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i fall asleep
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye yakuzza!
    Qt Core: ;night Yak
    Riddle Sideways: nite Yakuxxa


    SophiaSharon Larnia: Riddle you have been involved with PaB from the beginning....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how have you been doing the 9 sec stops
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, connection probs....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no problem
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have you been doing them qt? because i have compressed mine and do them at night, although i have to go back to doing them again
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Riddle crashed
    Qt Core: no, i do not do it, i do my version, stopping for some sec when my miind request it, i already have meny interruptions during theday it would be quite unconfortable having even those
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i know what you mean it is the same for me, why i have compressed them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so in doing that it resembles regular meditation
    Riddle Sideways: I alternate between when there is a natural breaking poiont and a 15 min gong clock
    Riddle Sideways: some of the best insights come when not at those conventient times
    Qt Core: i usually stop after an interruption of my normal work flow and going back to it ;-)


    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i had an odd experience the other day that way, i was writing out checks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and decided to stop
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for some reason i was looking at the zero
    Riddle Sideways: ah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that i had written, and it suddenly didnt look like a zero
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i looked like a racetrack, and then the 1 in front of it struck me, how something could go from zero to 10 with two character
    Riddle Sideways: did the zero (which is suppose to mean nothing/nil) somehow mean a circle of all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but nothing, a zero means nothing, zilch
    SophiaSharon Larnia: with the one it multiplied
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to 10
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that struck me as odd, that it was a symbol
    Riddle Sideways: but a circle can mean all, unity, completeness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Riddle Sideways: and ten is a long way from zero
    Qt Core: or just, as a fence to state emptiness or to divede the ins from the outs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to both
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i saw it as a binary code too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Arista
    Riddle Sideways: just when you had the 1'sand 0's as binary poof it became a ten
    Arisia Vita: Hi all
    Riddle Sideways: hi Aris
    Qt Core: hi ari
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it was odd and it came as a flash, i wasnt thinking about it
    Riddle Sideways: little moments like that are why I like an interrupting gong clock
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but nothing prompted it, perhaps the 0 did
    Qt Core: well, some month ago i nociced how much a B looks like the number 13... and i wasn't able to write a good B since then ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Qt Core: (that don't mean i ever wrote a nice B or any other letters)
    Riddle Sideways: if you always pause for 9-seconds at the same juncture it will almost be the same every time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i would give you a notecard Ari, but all the other junk in my chat will come up, were are talking about zero, ithink, or the symbols of 0 and 1
    Arisia Vita: that's fine...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: really??
    Arisia Vita: talking about nothing... :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yup :)
    Qt Core: i have around (haven't read yet) a entire book about that nothing that 0 is
    Riddle Sideways: Arista has been here before many times
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i shouldve been clearer, i meant about what we are talking about
    Arisia Vita: please call me Ari, it's easier to type...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a whole book, i think i could write only one essay
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow
    Riddle Sideways: then the part about an O is like a 0
    Qt Core: just its mathematical history, and the discovery of the need for it would be interesting
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, later, i thought about the discovery of zero
    Riddle Sideways: before teh Greeksinvented zero, people had nothing but did not know it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha
    Riddle Sideways: everything had to start off being one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that what is zero
    SophiaSharon Larnia: then*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think that too
    Riddle Sideways: much later the Romans invented a way to go negative
    Arisia Vita: if you all will excuse me, a friend needs me, and that is important to me...
    Arisia Vita: hope to see you all again soon
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: take care Ari
    Arisia Vita: be well and happy


    SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt think of that Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: so those poor ancients had tolive without nothing and no negative thinking
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i love the way you think Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, am in bazarre mood/mode today
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh and I forgot to say the zero also reminded me of spheggeti-oh and i tasted them too in that moment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too
    Qt Core: was that spaghetti ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oops speghetti0ohs even
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gosh cant type
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is a can food here in the usa, it is horrible for you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as far from spaghetti as one can get
    SophiaSharon Larnia: made me wonder if their were multiple neurological processes going on in that 9 seconds
    Riddle Sideways: there always are
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what did you mean Riddle, about the part about an O is like a 0? a circle or the letter?
    Riddle Sideways: bad cnnection... I need to leave for the next party... I leave O and 0 as exercise for the reader
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) ok Riddle nice to chat with you, you too Qt, I have to go as well
    Qt Core: i'd like to know why they pout those two so near in the keyboard too ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Qt Core: ok, bye

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