2009.07.05 01:00 - Tea and oneness

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    Stargate Tone: Hello Moon :)*
    Moon Fargis: hi star :)
    Moon Fargis: hi yakuzza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how are both of you today ?
    Stargate Tone: hi Yakuzza
    Stargate Tone: fine; how r You ?
    Moon Fargis: i am ok... but now i notice have no tea :)
    Stargate Tone: ohh
    Stargate Tone: that must be fixed immediately
    Yakuzza Lethecus: It´s complicated, but not that bad...
    Moon Fargis: hmm i notice that the most thing, that i switch off and on at the day, beside the external harddrive, is the water boiler
    Stargate Tone: ah yes
    Stargate Tone: here it's almost all the time on ; keeping the water hot
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i forgot the external harddrives tonight but i was too lazy to switch them off :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and since i got 3,5" they are pretty loud
    Moon Fargis: :) okidoki earl gray is coming up
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what are you guys reading at the moment ?
    Moon Fargis: second life :)
    Stargate Tone: the chat
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean books
    Moon Fargis: ah nothing atm
    Stargate Tone: same here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i just overflew a few ones lately
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i can´t call that reading
    Stargate Tone: (having not enough time to read all e-mails)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like i wanted to read a j ayers language truth and logic :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s even hard from the vocabulary
    Stargate Tone: sound good book to read
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Moon Fargis: is logic really always the truth ?:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it seems to be a classic so i can take some years to finish that, it´s a process of interest i guess
    Stargate Tone: hm...well...
    Stargate Tone: occures to my mind what Socrates said....even I dont like much to quote...
    Stargate Tone: but I agree so much with his them words...
    Stargate Tone: that there is nothing that cannot been explaned by the one who wants to explane;
    Stargate Tone: just how ever
    Stargate Tone: and like my son was only few years old, when ppl said that he can explane snow to be white
    Stargate Tone: and people hear the logic...
    Stargate Tone: but
    Stargate Tone: I myself have though that there is the logic always withing the truth, but it's not always to explane but with the feeling
    Stargate Tone: that there is this 'emptyness'; no more questions
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for me citing becomes more and more important since i believe that we are not really individuals and citing is good to alaborate on different extreme positions in order to understand a position from multiple ways
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hard to explain :P
    Stargate Tone: and my experiencies of 'few' ways how the individual life gets birth
    Stargate Tone: that I cannot ever believe that there wouldn't be individuals...
    Stargate Tone: as well I've experiencing almost all the time the 'oneness' with several beings
    Yakuzza Lethecus: did you read heidegger ?
    Stargate Tone: I am aware how individuals can join to be together like there would be only one
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onness is something he uses alot
    Yakuzza Lethecus: he loved the black forest
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
    Stargate Tone: basicly I've read 'Donald Duck' , cuz I've needed to live through so much of what such ppl has written
    Stargate Tone: but von Deningen and Hinek...or is it written Hynek...as I was so young I read them
    Stargate Tone: and yes; I studied these speechies of oneness about a year in different groups
    Stargate Tone: feeling all the time that they know much of what I have experienced almost whole my this incrnation
    Stargate Tone: rehi
    Stargate Tone: still I feel need to add this too;
    Moon Fargis: wb
    Stargate Tone: I was so happy that finnish can be spoken not using the word 'I'....cuz I've always also felt the 'we'...to me 'me'...
    Stargate Tone: ty
    Stargate Tone: so...I believe to interacitvity...
    Stargate Tone: and sharing
    Stargate Tone: creates the 'oneness' ...that love is the 'connector' even it connects to share all; heavy pain and happyness
    Stargate Tone: there is also this free will...
    Stargate Tone: if all would be one, how could there be such hatered and jealousy and such , between people...
    Stargate Tone: if there was not different individual minds
    Stargate Tone: and already the base; if there would be only one mind, how could there be any 'own mind to create own world'....
    Moon Fargis: well nonduality has it trueness but many people interpret it the wrong way
    Stargate Tone: so; there I dont see or feel any logic...as they who speaks about nonduality sais, that 'your life is only in your mind'...and such
    Stargate Tone: well..how U see/feel my way of thinking ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: feeling is a way of thinking
    Yakuzza Lethecus: problem is for me to express feelings in words often
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and i don´t really know if all feelings can be transkribed
    Stargate Tone: ah; that's the prob to all of the people I've met, and to me too often
    Stargate Tone: but yes; they are to share as the feeling :)***
    Stargate Tone: and yes; I feel people's thoughts with my human body's nerve system, even if I wouldn't read them ...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i often have problems talking about emotions because other people don´t seem to understand exactly what i understand under the same kind of term
    Stargate Tone: there was one highly understanding person in Hikari meeting who said that the wrong path starts from the step away from love...sadly dont remember his name
    Stargate Tone: but like have one friend with whom there's been few truly hard fights
    Stargate Tone: it's been love that has leaded to the clarity to see that there was something very wrong....
    Stargate Tone: and with this person there's been the common understanding that it's hard to understand the words always
    Moon Fargis nods
    Stargate Tone: but love keeps searching so long, that the truth shall reveal itself again
    Stargate Tone: so poor are all of them languages
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; even both would speak there first language *
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; as many of my friends have also experienced, that there's not them misunderestandings only between human minds, but that happenes also on the spirit level...
    Stargate Tone: well...thoughts and feelings and motions are not the body, even they effect to it's being...
    Stargate Tone: still there's huge much ppl who dont believe the spiritual level even to exist...
    Moon Fargis: well they dont belive becasue they drawn back from theirself
    Moon Fargis: into their ego and trying to live in THIS world
    Stargate Tone: *
    Moon Fargis: so they just belive what they see with their eyes and are not willing even to test it cus they are to busy with other stuff, then they suffer cus they know that there is more but cant find it in the materal world,
    Stargate Tone: *
    Moon Fargis: so they try to get more sucess in this material world, buying more stuff, own more, being more cusessfull in career
    Moon Fargis: and still the spirituel espect is missing , so its a circle of suffering
    Stargate Tone: *
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep
    Yakuzza Lethecus: roadrunner ?
    Stargate Tone: smiles *
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, bye everyone
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: :)

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