2009.07.05 01:00 - Tea and oneness

Stargate Tone: Hello Moon :)*
Moon Fargis: hi star :)
Moon Fargis: hi yakuzza
Yakuzza Lethecus: how are both of you today ?
Stargate Tone: hi Yakuzza
Stargate Tone: fine; how r You ?
Moon Fargis: i am ok... but now i notice have no tea :)
Stargate Tone: ohh
Stargate Tone: that must be fixed immediately
Yakuzza Lethecus: It´s complicated, but not that bad...
Moon Fargis: hmm i notice that the most thing, that i switch off and on at the day, beside the external harddrive, is the water boiler
Stargate Tone: ah yes
Stargate Tone: here it's almost all the time on ; keeping the water hot
Yakuzza Lethecus: i forgot the external harddrives tonight but i was too lazy to switch them off :P
Yakuzza Lethecus: and since i got 3,5" they are pretty loud
Moon Fargis: :) okidoki earl gray is coming up
Yakuzza Lethecus: what are you guys reading at the moment ?
Moon Fargis: second life :)
Stargate Tone: the chat
Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean books
Moon Fargis: ah nothing atm
Stargate Tone: same here
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i just overflew a few ones lately
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i can´t call that reading
Stargate Tone: (having not enough time to read all e-mails)
Yakuzza Lethecus: like i wanted to read a j ayers language truth and logic :P
Yakuzza Lethecus: but it´s even hard from the vocabulary
Stargate Tone: sound good book to read
Moon Fargis: hmm
Moon Fargis: is logic really always the truth ?:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: it seems to be a classic so i can take some years to finish that, it´s a process of interest i guess
Stargate Tone: hm...well...
Stargate Tone: occures to my mind what Socrates said....even I dont like much to quote...
Stargate Tone: but I agree so much with his them words...
Stargate Tone: that there is nothing that cannot been explaned by the one who wants to explane;
Stargate Tone: just how ever
Stargate Tone: and like my son was only few years old, when ppl said that he can explane snow to be white
Stargate Tone: and people hear the logic...
Stargate Tone: but
Stargate Tone: I myself have though that there is the logic always withing the truth, but it's not always to explane but with the feeling
Stargate Tone: that there is this 'emptyness'; no more questions
Yakuzza Lethecus: for me citing becomes more and more important since i believe that we are not really individuals and citing is good to alaborate on different extreme positions in order to understand a position from multiple ways
Yakuzza Lethecus: hard to explain :P
Stargate Tone: and my experiencies of 'few' ways how the individual life gets birth
Stargate Tone: that I cannot ever believe that there wouldn't be individuals...
Stargate Tone: as well I've experiencing almost all the time the 'oneness' with several beings
Yakuzza Lethecus: did you read heidegger ?
Stargate Tone: I am aware how individuals can join to be together like there would be only one
Yakuzza Lethecus: onness is something he uses alot
Yakuzza Lethecus: he loved the black forest
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
Stargate Tone: basicly I've read 'Donald Duck' , cuz I've needed to live through so much of what such ppl has written
Stargate Tone: but von Deningen and Hinek...or is it written Hynek...as I was so young I read them
Stargate Tone: and yes; I studied these speechies of oneness about a year in different groups
Stargate Tone: feeling all the time that they know much of what I have experienced almost whole my this incrnation
Stargate Tone: rehi
Stargate Tone: still I feel need to add this too;
Moon Fargis: wb
Stargate Tone: I was so happy that finnish can be spoken not using the word 'I'....cuz I've always also felt the 'we'...to me 'me'...
Stargate Tone: ty
Stargate Tone: so...I believe to interacitvity...
Stargate Tone: and sharing
Stargate Tone: creates the 'oneness' ...that love is the 'connector' even it connects to share all; heavy pain and happyness
Stargate Tone: there is also this free will...
Stargate Tone: if all would be one, how could there be such hatered and jealousy and such , between people...
Stargate Tone: if there was not different individual minds
Stargate Tone: and already the base; if there would be only one mind, how could there be any 'own mind to create own world'....
Moon Fargis: well nonduality has it trueness but many people interpret it the wrong way
Stargate Tone: so; there I dont see or feel any logic...as they who speaks about nonduality sais, that 'your life is only in your mind'...and such
Stargate Tone: well..how U see/feel my way of thinking ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: feeling is a way of thinking
Yakuzza Lethecus: problem is for me to express feelings in words often
Yakuzza Lethecus: and i don´t really know if all feelings can be transkribed
Stargate Tone: ah; that's the prob to all of the people I've met, and to me too often
Stargate Tone: but yes; they are to share as the feeling :)***
Stargate Tone: and yes; I feel people's thoughts with my human body's nerve system, even if I wouldn't read them ...
Yakuzza Lethecus: i often have problems talking about emotions because other people don´t seem to understand exactly what i understand under the same kind of term
Stargate Tone: there was one highly understanding person in Hikari meeting who said that the wrong path starts from the step away from love...sadly dont remember his name
Stargate Tone: but like have one friend with whom there's been few truly hard fights
Stargate Tone: it's been love that has leaded to the clarity to see that there was something very wrong....
Stargate Tone: and with this person there's been the common understanding that it's hard to understand the words always
Moon Fargis nods
Stargate Tone: but love keeps searching so long, that the truth shall reveal itself again
Stargate Tone: so poor are all of them languages
Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
Stargate Tone: ah yes; even both would speak there first language *
Stargate Tone: ah yes; as many of my friends have also experienced, that there's not them misunderestandings only between human minds, but that happenes also on the spirit level...
Stargate Tone: well...thoughts and feelings and motions are not the body, even they effect to it's being...
Stargate Tone: still there's huge much ppl who dont believe the spiritual level even to exist...
Moon Fargis: well they dont belive becasue they drawn back from theirself
Moon Fargis: into their ego and trying to live in THIS world
Stargate Tone: *
Moon Fargis: so they just belive what they see with their eyes and are not willing even to test it cus they are to busy with other stuff, then they suffer cus they know that there is more but cant find it in the materal world,
Stargate Tone: *
Moon Fargis: so they try to get more sucess in this material world, buying more stuff, own more, being more cusessfull in career
Moon Fargis: and still the spirituel espect is missing , so its a circle of suffering
Stargate Tone: *
Moon Fargis: Meep Meep
Yakuzza Lethecus: roadrunner ?
Stargate Tone: smiles *
Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
Moon Fargis: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, bye everyone
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: :)