2009.07.09 07:00 - Being a Penguin

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

    Adams and I made a new friend this session...

    Ninja Easterman: hello
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ninja :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Join me if you like ?
    Eliza Madrigal: Fascinating av...very interesting :)
    Ninja Easterman: when is the descution
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah.. we're here 4 times a day...hae just given you a notecard about Play as Being.
    Eliza Madrigal: One moment..doorbell
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah..back :)'
    Ninja Easterman: lots that come cross like my avatar must be doin something right eh,,,,,,lol
    Eliza Madrigal: It has been an interesting morning here in Miami... comings and goings :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed!
    Eliza Madrigal: Is it that you are part of a roleplay community?
    Ninja Easterman: have not learned to build much just mess with the avatar
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Good morning Eliza
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Ninja
    Ninja Easterman: just me i was a man before......lol
    Ninja Easterman: hello
    Adams Dubrovna: Tghat happens in SL :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles, yes
    Ninja Easterman: i am much better to look at as woman .....
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Maybe depends on who is looking :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Have you been to Play as Being before, Ninja?
    Eliza Madrigal: hah Adams..yes this must be true :)
    Ninja Easterman: woman is most interesten creature.....
    Eliza Madrigal: I need to let you know that we record our conversations. If you aren't comfortable with that, I can edit your name out if you like :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Women in SL do have many choices
    Eliza Madrigal: but then men have the option of being women, which is a pretty big option..hah
    Ninja Easterman: no thats alright.....what they use it for my conversation
    Eliza Madrigal: (and visa versa of course)

    I didn't understand Ninja's question at first. That might have been interesting to discuss, but we found other things. I had been turning over a discussing yesterday in SL, about 'in betweenness'.

    Eliza Madrigal: I came across a beautiful idea this morning... "if there is meeting, there must be parting"...the idea being that within each meeting is the seed of the parting...
    Ninja Easterman: nice.....lol
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I thought so... thought it is a little taste of the nature of appreciation?
    Adams Dubrovna: Ninja, you have Play as Being on your profile :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah been here before....
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice :) Welcome back
    Adams Dubrovna: Yes, nice to have you back :)
    Adams Dubrovna: sorry to break up uour thought Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: No worries Adams, that was about it...just wanted to share :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Does anyone have a topic on their mind today?
    Ninja Easterman: hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ninja Easterman: blank....lol
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Well here is another idea related to the first... in betweenness
    Eliza Madrigal: A teacher here in SL yesterday talked about being aware of the 'in betweenness'...meaning not 'you', not 'me'....
    Eliza Madrigal: but that which is all... a web/net of interrelatedness :)
    Ninja Easterman: ah
    Adams Dubrovna: Excuse me, I have a problme here that needs adressing so I will be AFK for a few minutes
    Eliza Madrigal: np Adams :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So i thought that this wording was interesting in context of Play as Being...
    Eliza Madrigal: that here we are about playing in that betweeness :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah word thing a little to much here get confused....
    Ninja Easterman: im of little words to make a point thats me....
    Eliza Madrigal nods...me too sometimes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: There is much, MUCH, I don't 'understand in a way that I could articulate...
    Eliza Madrigal: yet there is a deeper and more 'real' understanding underneath that... I think for all of us
    Ninja Easterman: hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: and maybe that is Being... that is where we just are... not have/do... just are. :)
    Ninja Easterman: being what would you call it....?
    Eliza Madrigal: Presence?
    Ninja Easterman: ah
    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe, what do you think?
    Ninja Easterman: i would say that....
    Ninja Easterman: can loose presense if one do not live .......
    Eliza Madrigal: you mean that sense of excitement/passion for what one is doing?
    Ninja Easterman: yeah
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Ninja Easterman: people can get bored....lose sense of being
    Eliza Madrigal: The idea of the pauses (here 90 seconds but as a general idea 9) is that by taking that quiet moment, one might find themselves clearer the rest of the time? More passionate/engaged?
    Ninja Easterman: yeah herd that it makes sense

    A pause, and I look over at Adams...

    Eliza Madrigal: Adams has such good posture...hah
    Ninja Easterman: looks like crazy busness man....
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe...yes, the tie slightly loosened as though he is scurrying...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, well so much for the posture then :)
    Ninja Easterman: had hard day at office.....goin to snap
    Eliza Madrigal: yes.... needs to take time to breathe :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah

    How one arrives, and Martial Arts...

    Eliza Madrigal: Ninja, when were you here before? During a discussion?
    Ninja Easterman: yeah.....just come across the place
    Eliza Madrigal: : ) I don't want to interview you, but am always curious to know how people happen upon us :)
    Ninja Easterman: can not remember how.......hmmm
    Ninja Easterman: ah think i saw it in someones prohile.......zen retreat
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah! :) yes, I sit there too
    Eliza Madrigal: I came from zen retreat one night... in the balloon
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ninja Easterman: im into asian thing a bit......
    Eliza Madrigal: yes?
    Ninja Easterman: do you do martial arts ......?
    Eliza Madrigal: Not externally, you? :)
    Ninja Easterman: judo....
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm fond of yoga... but I'm not sure that's considered a martial art
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice
    Ninja Easterman: yoga have tried it becram yoga in a hot room killer...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe...yes
    Eliza Madrigal: What do you like about judo?
    Ninja Easterman: it is hard like martial art....becram
    Ninja Easterman: i find being a lot there ....just good for all things in life
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, that's a kind of meditation also... being attentive to movement... sharpness
    Eliza Madrigal: concentration
    Adams Dubrovna: Back, don;t let me interrupt :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back Adams :)

    Be the creature...

    Eliza Madrigal: (the morning crew is waking here... my son has brought his penguin for me to say hello to...hehe)
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Penguin :)
    Ninja Easterman: howdy.....
    Eliza Madrigal: He says "hello back" :)
    Ninja Easterman: penguin power.....lol
    Eliza Madrigal: He is funny with the penguin... it takes on aspects of his personality...
    Adams Dubrovna: we have mooses in my house
    Eliza Madrigal: so when I'm talking to Mr. Cuddles, I realize that I am sometimes talking to my son in a way he might not otherwise :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Moose, really? hah
    Adams Dubrovna: like avatars :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    Ninja Easterman: ever watch march of the penguins......?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes...beautiful film
    Ninja Easterman: harsh life......
    Adams Dubrovna: I'd say the moose were the first avatars but there was a sock puppet dog and a rabbit before that
    Adams Dubrovna: yes, good film
    Eliza Madrigal: So sweet to see the dad guard the egg...so long and under yes, such harsh conditions
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe...love sock puppets :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah makes yeah look at your own life .......have it easy
    Eliza Madrigal: I've felt like those penguins before...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Adams Dubrovna: the penguins would have a tough timedoing our life :)
    Ninja Easterman: true....lol
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed
    Adams Dubrovna: we have to be what we are :)
    Adams Dubrovna throws in a platitude there
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, and learn from one another... from the penguins, the trees... the ocean :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha Adams :)
    Ninja Easterman: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: we can see ourselves from a different angle by role playing penguins, moose or opposite gender
    Adams Dubrovna: whoops

    Missed the bell...

    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ninja Easterman: just what we were talken about martial art ....they do that be like animals..
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow yes... great observation... take on aspects and postures...
    Eliza Madrigal: view
    Adams Dubrovna: I did not know that
    Ninja Easterman: makes sense....eh
    Ninja Easterman: monkey stile, prayen mantes......etc
    Eliza Madrigal nods... a beautiful and intense thing... to see through the eyes of 'another' kind of creature
    Adams Dubrovna: hello Bicket
    Eliza Madrigal thinks of "kung fu panda"... an animated film I didn't mind seeing with my kids at all...
    Bicket Burt: HEy
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bicket, Welcome :)
    Bicket Burt: Hey*
    Ninja Easterman: yeah have not seen it yet....lol

    Another visitor...

    Eliza Madrigal: Bicket, have you ever been to Play as Being before?
    Bicket Burt: Nope
    Bicket Burt: I havent been on the mainland for like 2 months.
    Eliza Madrigal: I need to let you know that we record our conversations, so if you'd like not to be included in that, just let me know :)
    Bicket Burt: Oh, i dont care.
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm giong to give you a notecard so that you may find our wiki if you like, etc. :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bicket, we were discussing martial arts a moment ago... thoughts ?
    Ninja Easterman: you have combat place eh......
    Ninja Easterman: hes out a here......lol
    Eliza Madrigal: haha...
    Eliza Madrigal: departures and arrivals
    Bicket Burt: Crashed..
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you made it back quickly then Bicket
    Ninja Easterman: can you give me landmark for your place.....bicket?
    Bicket Burt: My place..?
    Ninja Easterman: thought you had combat place ....?
    Bicket Burt: Yeh, a military.
    Ninja Easterman: k
    Bicket Burt: 1 sec,
    Ninja Easterman: thanxs
    Bicket Burt: Its being rebuild right now, but public acces should be on
    Ninja Easterman: k cool..
    Bicket Burt: Gonna go back, nice to meet you all.


    And building, and travel...

    Eliza Madrigal: We seem to have hit a note of meditative silence :)
    Ninja Easterman: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Great Bicket...hope to see you again :)
    Adams Dubrovna: bye
    Bicket Burt: Bye.
    Ninja Easterman: later
    Ninja Easterman: do youguys travel in second life .....
    Eliza Madrigal: Travel? In what sense, doing more than PaB?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah check out places....
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, a bit. I like to attend teachings and other kinds of discussions also. I also wander and shop, dance at a few places :)
    Eliza Madrigal: "A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest (wo)men" :)
    Adams Dubrovna: we tend to pursue our interests
    Ninja Easterman: ah true
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, generally. I'm usually open to new atmospheres though... like to see
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks...wow that looks quite interesting
    Ninja Easterman: thats my friends place he is a very good builder i think......
    Adams Dubrovna: thank you
    Eliza Madrigal: I'll definitely check it out
    Eliza Madrigal: What is the place about? (For the log: Ninja has just given us a lm to "Robot Link")
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah... gone :) Well, (speaking into the aether) "Bye Ninja, wherever you are. " hehe
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: maybe crashed
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm..perhaps
    Adams Dubrovna: Hope you liked it :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha..Oh, is that what happened! :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah looked good check it later..lol
    Adams Dubrovna: I must go I am afraid
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the lm to San Francesco, Assisi, Adams. I'm always amazed by what SL holds...the projects people are working on :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Nice meeting you Ninja. Enjoy the rest of the day :)
    Ninja Easterman: see yeah
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Adams, Good to see you as always :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Mediums like SL allow such a lower cost for worthy
    Eliza Madrigal: work and creativity
    Ninja Easterman: do you build on second life....
    Eliza Madrigal: well... I suppose for all kinds of creativity... that all has its value :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Only a little, Ninja, and with much help from others. You?
    Ninja Easterman: ah true im learnen
    Eliza Madrigal: What would you like to build?
    Ninja Easterman: hmmm
    Ninja Easterman: i draw so some thing like that but do it 3d
    Eliza Madrigal: Everything I would like to be a part of, I'm so far a part of without building really...like this :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice
    Eliza Madrigal: What do you draw?
    Ninja Easterman: to much to learn on here ....
    Eliza Madrigal: YES, a land of possibilities
    Eliza Madrigal: an 'in between' land maybe in some ways:)
    Eliza Madrigal: though really it is just us, if you look at it that way
    Ninja Easterman: way of the future i think the way yeah use an avatar.....go site to site
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, there's been a lot of talk about that recently, with OpenSim... people developing their own grids, as I understand it, and linking them together ... more like the www
    Eliza Madrigal: Universities are seeing the potential.
    Ninja Easterman: yeah makes sense..
    Eliza Madrigal: We have guardians here who are working on those kinds of projects, building for colleges and such.
    Ninja Easterman: yeah
    Eliza Madrigal: They worked on Miami Dade College in fact, which is close to where I live
    Ninja Easterman: cool
    Eliza Madrigal: so I wandered over there.. was quite impressed
    Eliza Madrigal: The actual college is not on the ocean, but in SL it can be :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Who doesn't learn better near the sound of the ocean ? :)
    Ninja Easterman: when do they think it will happen../
    Eliza Madrigal: I think it happens gradually...bit by bit
    Ninja Easterman: ah...
    Eliza Madrigal: For instance, I could not have imagined all that was here before I got here. You?
    Ninja Easterman: yeah true...
    Eliza Madrigal: Also, I didn't think I'd build anything, but when the chance came up, I thought "Okay why not"
    Eliza Madrigal: so I guess progress moves along that way. We can't imagine the whole picture perhaps :)
    Ninja Easterman: im getten to the builden point now been just exsploren up till now...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, and you've been here for a while...
    Eliza Madrigal: more than a year longer than I have! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: so that's much to explore!
    Ninja Easterman: yeah......need land and place to work on things....
    Eliza Madrigal nods... some of the sandboxes are crazy
    Ninja Easterman: but have found places i like to go ......
    Eliza Madrigal: And you've found us :)
    Ninja Easterman: ah true...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow!
    Ninja Easterman: can not drop here...eh
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe...wasn't sure what was happening there... ahah
    Ninja Easterman: robot walker....
    Eliza Madrigal: I will need to go in a moment... feed the urchins
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah me to bye....
    Eliza Madrigal: I've enjoyed meeting you Ninja
    Eliza Madrigal: You know we're here 1,7,1,7... SL time of course :)
    Ninja Easterman: yeah your nice to talk to i am at peice....now
    Eliza Madrigal: :) So glad :) Me too
    Eliza Madrigal: Have a beautiful day then :) Bye for now
    Ninja Easterman: bye...

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