2009.07.12 01:00 - ALL about being meditative

Nymf Hathaway: Good day Susi :)
Susi Alcott: Good day Nymf
Nymf Hathaway: Do you have a topic Susi?
Nymf Hathaway: brb
Nymf Hathaway: back
Susi Alcott: so sorry; was away
Hades Nostram: Hello all :)
Nymf Hathaway: Hello Hades :)
Susi Alcott: Hello Hades
Susi Alcott: have you been here before ?
Hades Nostram: No not yet...just wandering :)
Susi Alcott: pls feel free to join us
Susi Alcott: the info pillar gives more detailed info
Hades Nostram: Ok :) thanks ...what is this all about ?
Susi Alcott: ...but this is open meeting place of PaB
Susi Alcott: = Play as being
Susi Alcott: and speech here is open
Hades Nostram: Ok.. what is this group doing in SL ?
Susi Alcott: chatting
Hades Nostram: What topics ?
Susi Alcott: do you know what 'sangha' is ?
Hades Nostram: No ..never heard of it ?
Susi Alcott: all what ever somebody wants
Susi Alcott: that is to gather together to share
Susi Alcott: to 'teach' and learn from other people
Hades Nostram: Ok..interesting ...philosopical discusions?
Susi Alcott: that is buddhist term, but in my opinion this place is like sangha
Hades Nostram: What are you discusing now?
Nymf Hathaway: silence
Susi Alcott: we was listening to the sound of silence
Hades Nostram: Silence can be full of words :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Susi Alcott: specially with persons with noble attitude to life like lady Nymf has
Hades Nostram: my client crashed
Nymf Hathaway: welcome back
Hades Nostram: :) thank you
Susi Alcott: wb
Hades Nostram: Where are you both from ?
Hades Nostram: I live in Belgium
Susi Alcott: I am from Finland
Nymf Hathaway: Netherlands
Hades Nostram: All Europeans here ? or is it international
Nymf Hathaway: International
Moon Fargis: woooaa
Moon Fargis: sory i am late
Moon Fargis: but had to fix up a serious problem
Nymf Hathaway: Good morning Moon :)
Hades Nostram: I like that more.. that is the nice part of SL.. meeting can be held from anywhere on Earth..
Hades Nostram: Hello Moon
Moon Fargis: hi hades
Hades Nostram: Hello Stargate
Nymf Hathaway: Good morning Stargate :)
Stargate Tone: Good morning Nymf
Stargate Tone: greetings Hades
Hades Nostram: What is the 15 min bell ?
Moon Fargis: ahyes
Hades Nostram: Hello ..nice to meet you
Susi Alcott: sry I must go
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Hades Nostram: Bye
Nymf Hathaway: Bye Susi
Moon Fargis: play as being is about a hmm lets call is small awarenessm editation we do every 15 minutes for 9 seconds
Hades Nostram: Susi is in a hurry :)
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: so its a meditation practise you can do all the day in your daily life , just spare simple 9 seconds from yur time
Moon Fargis: in sl the time extends here to 90 seconds :) but in rl its just 9
Hades Nostram: Ok..clear :)
Hades Nostram: What are we talking about today?
Moon Fargis: ah we mstly talk about our expereiences
Moon Fargis: during those meditation but also about alot of other babbling stuff:)
Hades Nostram: RL an and SL?
Moon Fargis: more about the other babbling stuff even :)
Moon Fargis: yep
Stargate Tone: both
Moon Fargis: oops wrong one
Hades Nostram: So.. in fact all topics of live are discused ...is there a agenda or are the discusions random?
Nymf Hathaway: Oh Moon...this feels like home :)
Hades Nostram: Better
Hades Nostram: :)
Stargate Tone: random
Stargate Tone: do you have something special on your heart to speak about ?
Stargate Tone: or mind :)***
Stargate Tone: in case you want to 'depart' heart and mind
Moon Fargis: yes basicly we talk about all kind of philosopical, religois, emotional stuff
Moon Fargis: ahh and we log those talks
Moon Fargis: to put them on our webpage
Stargate Tone: oh; sry Susi didn't notice to bring that out
Moon Fargis: cus we have this meetings 4 times a day there are already alot of talks :)
Stargate Tone: but it's in the info
Moon Fargis: so is it ok if we include your name ?
Stargate Tone: and your words
Hades Nostram: Ok.. nice to look back discusions.. i do not got an specific topics that i want to discuse
Stargate Tone: so may I be curious of your special name ?
Hades Nostram: You can include me...then i drop by now and then... what time are those discusions?
Moon Fargis: 1PM 7PM 1AM 7 AM
Moon Fargis: and now :)
Nymf Hathaway: Depends on where you live Hades... Belgium would be; 10.00/16.00 and 22.00/04.00 hours
Moon Fargis: yes we ususally say secondlife time
Hades Nostram: You may Moon :) I was picking a name .. i like myths and the Name Hades comes from a myth..
Hades Nostram: Thank you Stargate
Hades Nostram: What is the address of the website ?
Stargate Tone: thank you Hades
Moon Fargis: http://playasbeing.wik.is/
Stargate Tone: you pls click the info pillar; there you get more details
Hades Nostram: Nice site!
Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
Moon Fargis: there you also can see in details the philosopy of play as being
Moon Fargis: nymf: btw , are you lving in a forrest ?:)
Hades Nostram: Looks well organized!
Hades Nostram: In myth's indeed nymf's also living in the woods :)
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: well then let ther be woods
Nymf Hathaway: smiles at Moon...no but I live very close to one :) and this grass I placed on Pila's land
Moon Fargis: ^^
Hades Nostram: Nice ..better with all this nature around us
Nymf Hathaway: Grass... should be wild flowers :)
Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
Moon Fargis: *slurping his tea*
Nymf Hathaway: wanting her coffee :)
Hades Nostram: :o)
Stargate Tone: btw; is Nostradamus also a 'myth' to your opinion ?
Nymf Hathaway: Thank you Moon :))
Moon Fargis: ^^
Hades Nostram: In every myth lays some thruth
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: ahh
Moon Fargis: i see i still have my shakuhachi on
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Stargate Tone: think that all ppl present would love to hear U to play
Moon Fargis: ^^
Nymf Hathaway: hmmm my sounds doesn't work :(
Stargate Tone: oh
Stargate Tone: but it's used to ?
Nymf Hathaway: yes
Moon Fargis: you heat yourself typing ?
Moon Fargis: hear
Nymf Hathaway: no
Stargate Tone: so that is such lag that comes now and then
Moon Fargis: hmm maybe a relog solves this :)
Stargate Tone: pls feel free to relog
Nymf Hathaway: totally nothing...sound looks like the button Fly at the moment :(
Hades Nostram: Back...RL needed me :)
Stargate Tone: wb Hades
Nymf Hathaway: I will relog
Hades Nostram: thank you
Moon Fargis: wb nymf
Nymf Hathaway: Thank you :)
Nymf Hathaway: still the same :(
Moon Fargis: hum
Hades Nostram: Wb forrest Nymf :)
Stargate Tone: wb Nymf
Stargate Tone: hm
Moon Fargis: hi natashi
Stargate Tone: maybe some settings in Your pc has changed...
Moon Fargis: natasha
Stargate Tone: that happenes also often 'wtihin' crashes...
Nymf Hathaway: Hello Natasha :)
Stargate Tone: Hello Natasha
Nymf Hathaway: I will look at it Star... thought the same
Hades Nostram: Hello Natasha
Nymf Hathaway: oooh yes Moon!!!
Nymf Hathaway: Hearing again :)
Moon Fargis: yaay:)
Hades Nostram: Nice sounds
Moon Fargis: natasha: you been here the first time ?
Natasha Urvile: hi what this place
Natasha Urvile: yes
Natasha Urvile: pls tell me abt this place
Moon Fargis: wel normalyl there is not much wood arund but just today:) then this is a meetingplace for play as being group and intrerests, we meet here becasue we try out a wel, new awareness meditation form,
Moon Fargis: its open for everyone so feel freeto stay
Natasha Urvile: what kind of meditation
Natasha Urvile: i meditate too
Moon Fargis: ths meditation form is that we do a little 9 seconds awareness meditation every 15 minutes
Moon Fargis: so everyone can do it during the day
Natasha Urvile: whats the purpose
Nymf Hathaway: You are
Moon Fargis: meditation should have no purpose
Natasha Urvile: ?
Nymf Hathaway: and everyone else
Natasha Urvile: meditation has a purpose
Natasha Urvile: to understand self
Moon Fargis: ah this is a result :)
Natasha Urvile: what result
Moon Fargis: that you notice yourself more
Moon Fargis: see and understand
Natasha Urvile: what
Moon Fargis: but if you go into meditation with a purpose, a gold to it, you might ot reach it
Moon Fargis: gold= goal
Natasha Urvile: the result of meditation is always get free from all ur desires
Natasha Urvile: u always start with desire
Moon Fargis: yes meditation has alot of results depending who meditates
Natasha Urvile: end with no desire
Natasha Urvile: yes and what u doing it for
Moon Fargis: yes how you do it and whan aso
Moon Fargis: but imo, meditation itself shall not have a purpose
Natasha Urvile: it comes after some time
Moon Fargis: ah btw
Natasha Urvile: initially theres always a purpose
Moon Fargis: natasha, we log our talks when we meet here
Natasha Urvile: btw?
Moon Fargis: and put the logs on our webside
Moon Fargis: http://playasbeing.wik.is/
Moon Fargis: is it ok to include your name and text ?
Natasha Urvile: yes pls
Natasha Urvile: can we discuss more
Moon Fargis: ofcourse we are here to discuss:)
Natasha Urvile: whr u from
Moon Fargis: we meet up 4 times a day
Natasha Urvile: which style of meditation u follow
Moon Fargis: 1AM 7 AM 1PM 7PM SLT
Moon Fargis: i am from germany, and mainly in Zen
Natasha Urvile: well i have taken diksha from my guru/ teacher
Natasha Urvile: who taught me meditation
Natasha Urvile: is there a stage called total dissolution in zen
Moon Fargis: ahyes sure
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: basicly the most meditations lead thos this
Natasha Urvile: what it is
Moon Fargis: no matter if its joga, adwaida, zen, tibeta chanting aso
Moon Fargis: its just another practise
Natasha Urvile: i agree
Moon Fargis: did you experienced it already ?
Stargate Tone: but can happen also what U know too Moon; thinking that monk....
Natasha Urvile: yes in feb 2007
Moon Fargis: well
Moon Fargis: there is ofcourse no guarantee it happens
Natasha Urvile: it does happen
Natasha Urvile: i guarantee it
Natasha Urvile: i experienced it
Moon Fargis: i mean that it happens 100% every time with everyone who meditates
Stargate Tone: well; like this monk had meditated very long time...but that lead him more far away of realizings...
Natasha Urvile: no it is a particular style of meditation
Natasha Urvile: called vippassana
Natasha Urvile: in budhdhism
Natasha Urvile: u may not experience it through other styles
Moon Fargis: well that i mean, it depends on the one who meditates
Stargate Tone: but if dont meditate at all...
Natasha Urvile: ask me anything that u want to know
Natasha Urvile: if u dont meditate u cant experience it
Natasha Urvile: meditation is must
Stargate Tone: ok; why 'all' have come to me even I never meditate ?
Moon Fargis: hmm in that i disagree :)
Stargate Tone: even so huge much such that I could never even ask or 'wait' or expect
Moon Fargis: meditation isnt just the one path to it,
Natasha Urvile: its not necessary u meditate in this life may be u were meditator of past life
Natasha Urvile: i agree there r many ways
Stargate Tone: well; even teached and created them methods
Natasha Urvile: its just one of them
Moon Fargis: so natasha
Natasha Urvile: yes
Moon Fargis: are you already unbound from your guru ?
Natasha Urvile: can u ever be
Moon Fargis: well
Stargate Tone: ..oh...
Moon Fargis: it is nessesary
Natasha Urvile: what
Natasha Urvile: ?
Stargate Tone: ..as nobody is ment to be any puppet...
Moon Fargis: to be unbound, a guru shall ONLY show you a direction
Stargate Tone: so nobody truly is not such...
Moon Fargis: where your practise shall go , the rest you have to experience yourself
Natasha Urvile: i agree n i did that only
Natasha Urvile: guru makes u sit in the train to destination
Nymf Hathaway: Is leaving ...wishing everyone a beautiful day
Natasha Urvile: u should just continue till u reach
Moon Fargis: see you nymf
Stargate Tone: was nice to met you Nymf again
Nymf Hathaway: Thank you for the lovely sound Moon and the flowers :)
Stargate Tone: have nice time _/!\_
Nymf Hathaway: Same here Star :)
Hades Nostram: Bye Nymf :)
Moon Fargis: nat: lets say a guru shal sit you in a car learn you how to drive and show you a direction
Moon Fargis: :)
Hades Nostram: afk here...phone keeps ringing
Stargate Tone: **
Natasha Urvile: i agree
Natasha Urvile: but he is very important
Natasha Urvile: as he only can show u direction
Stargate Tone: ...well..never met any guru...
Natasha Urvile: when time comes u will
Moon Fargis: well , in my case i foudn my direction by instinct without a guru
Stargate Tone: are you the seeer Natasha ?
Moon Fargis: so that also works but sure it takes longer^^
Natasha Urvile: yes i m
Stargate Tone: so why dont you see ?
Natasha Urvile: what
Stargate Tone: pls think that
Natasha Urvile: ?
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Natasha Urvile: i didnt get u
Stargate Tone: I hope you do that 'one day'
Natasha Urvile: what r u talking about
Stargate Tone: like I said; I hope you to 'get it' 'one day'
Stargate Tone: dont worry
Stargate Tone: and U'll 'get it' quicker
Natasha Urvile: what u want me to get
Moon Fargis: *smiles* yes dont worry :)
Natasha Urvile: ???
Natasha Urvile: can u explain
Stargate Tone: I dont believe I could
Stargate Tone: because you dont see
Natasha Urvile: unless u tell me how can i
Natasha Urvile: know what u want me to see
Natasha Urvile: ??
Natasha Urvile: moon can u explain
Moon Fargis: well there is this golden sentence of bein awake
Moon Fargis: To one awarenes to be awake is to see throught the clouds of the mind, breaking its chains to see and feel clearly oneness in many
Natasha Urvile: who told u i dont c it
Stargate Tone: your own words
Natasha Urvile: i didnt understand ur question
Natasha Urvile: thats all
Stargate Tone: and there's reasons why you did not
Stargate Tone: and them reasons are them 'clouds' within your mind
Natasha Urvile: i dont think so
Stargate Tone: yea
Natasha Urvile: ask me anything of spirituality
Stargate Tone: agree
Hades Nostram: Sorry for my absense... RL is demanding :) Need to logof... thanks for the information and i will attend at a discusion soon!
Stargate Tone: have nice time _/!\_
Moon Fargis: ok was nice to see you , ore or less see you :)
Hades Nostram: Thanks...you also have a nice day :)
Natasha Urvile: do u agree there r no coincidences
Hades Nostram: :)) i see i am invisible as AV ? ..i will fix that next time :)
Hades Nostram: Bye! :)
Stargate Tone: oh yes
Natasha Urvile: even me coming here
Moon Fargis: ah natasha, she dont doubt your knowledge about spiritualy
Natasha Urvile: ???
Stargate Tone: there's no other unbreakble law but the reasons and concequencies
Natasha Urvile: this part of meditation is required more in rl
Stargate Tone: as all do take place based on it
Natasha Urvile: well there can be only two things for me
Natasha Urvile: either i learn or i teach
Natasha Urvile: but u seem to be knowledgeble people
Natasha Urvile: n filled glass cant be filled
Natasha Urvile: i hope u agree
Stargate Tone: well; broke my 'glass' already long time ago
Moon Fargis: well, there is this important part
Stargate Tone: and thankfully learning is the right to everybody
Moon Fargis: becasue you sure can learn, but you have to stop learning and start to realize at a point
Moon Fargis: ad you know everything already
Moon Fargis: about yourself
Moon Fargis: the being of nature
Stargate Tone: and to me that most bad trap is to even to imagine that knows all
Moon Fargis: and the nature of being
Moon Fargis: but that can just be realized by yourself
Moon Fargis: and yes try to see yourself not as fill glass
Moon Fargis: filled
Natasha Urvile: well there is only one truth to realise oneself
Natasha Urvile: thats should be the only aim of life
Natasha Urvile: glass was an example
Stargate Tone: based in your opinion
Natasha Urvile: truth has no opinion
Natasha Urvile: n there cant be 2 truths
Moon Fargis: The meaning of life is how much you give worth into it. (the life itself and the meaning)
Natasha Urvile: life has no meaning
Stargate Tone: Natasha Urvile: thats should be the only aim of life
Stargate Tone: that is an opinion; not the truth
Natasha Urvile: well u cant tell truth to someone who is sleeping
Moon Fargis: natasha: you give your live itself a meaning
Natasha Urvile: one need to be awakened
Stargate Tone: well; to me there's no common sense to live if there wouldn't be any meaning
Natasha Urvile: knowing fire burns and experiencing burn is big difference
Natasha Urvile: total dissolution is nothing but experiencing death
Stargate Tone: ah yes; one can also shelter oneself off all experiencies
Natasha Urvile: thats the only truth
Stargate Tone: that is your opinion
Stargate Tone: not mine
Stargate Tone: so; that cannot be any only truth
Natasha Urvile: u cant have that opinion unless u experience it
Stargate Tone: I experience the meaning in my human mind each time I wake up to human life
Moon Fargis: and what is, when i tell you there is much more than just the dissoluton ?
Stargate Tone: but when I am 'asleep' from human world, I experience the meaning there when my mind is then
Stargate Tone: where
Natasha Urvile: r u asking?
Natasha Urvile: or telling
Stargate Tone: Moon asked; I told
Stargate Tone: hm...ok; you asked to ask
Stargate Tone: so I now ask;
Stargate Tone: what do you see looking upon my foremer incarnations ?
Natasha Urvile: ur former incarnations is the cause of ur this berth
Natasha Urvile: there is a cycle
Natasha Urvile: that decides how n as what u r born
Natasha Urvile: when u die with list of desires unfulfilled
Stargate Tone: well; that's to know...not needed to look 'back' in 'time'
Moon Fargis: nat, yes thats the teaching of your guru
Stargate Tone: I asked you to look and tell what u see ...
Moon Fargis: and the buddhism form you practise
Moon Fargis: but yes what do you see, also in yourself
Natasha Urvile: well i see myself one with the universe
Natasha Urvile: with the almighty
Natasha Urvile: we all r one
Stargate Tone: so you are all mighty ?
Natasha Urvile: thats the experience
Natasha Urvile: no
Natasha Urvile: i become one with him
Stargate Tone: then you cannot be one with the all mighty
Natasha Urvile: in my meditation
Natasha Urvile: thats why i said u need to experience it
Stargate Tone: can u do something when you meditate; eat...speak...work...
Natasha Urvile: i dont exist
Natasha Urvile: no
Stargate Tone: and how can you claim that I'm not experienced it ?
Natasha Urvile: i didnt mean that
Natasha Urvile: but when we talk abt the truth it cant be explained
Natasha Urvile: it need to be expernced
Stargate Tone: ...and ?
Natasha Urvile: truth cant be told
Natasha Urvile: n convinced abt
Stargate Tone: yet; U've said many 'only one truths'....
Natasha Urvile: yes truth is only one
Moon Fargis: myfriends lets take a little 5 minute break
Moon Fargis: ad just lsten
Stargate Tone: hm
Stargate Tone: do you Natasha want to stop discussion with me ?
Natasha Urvile: no i luv it
Stargate Tone: well...Moon...
Moon Fargis: its not metn to be a stp
Moon Fargis: juzst a break
Stargate Tone: can You 'turne your looks' from the texts :)****
Stargate Tone: just a question :)****
Natasha Urvile: yes
Moon Fargis: sure but i dont want :)
Stargate Tone: ahhh
Stargate Tone: ok
Stargate Tone: so I honour your request *
Stargate Tone: hearts

Stargate Tone: and yes; I'de still like to listen U to play :)***
Moon Fargis: ok hehe now you might continue :)
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Natasha Urvile: to be honest truth can never be discussed only experienced
Natasha Urvile: with proper gudence
Natasha Urvile: guidence
Moon Fargis: and yes this guidance needs to be you
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: an not a guru becasue then you just experience his thruth
Stargate Tone: and there are many ways that proper guidence to take place
Natasha Urvile: yes there r many paths all leading to one
Natasha Urvile: u only need to have faith
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Natasha Urvile: in what u do
Stargate Tone: well....not always even that...
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: well zen for example is caled the pathles path
Natasha Urvile: pls continue
Stargate Tone: well; thinking those so many people that has been healed even they had no faith that to happen
Moon Fargis: ah i wish but now rl calls me, ill be back in a few minuts but letting my av here:)
Natasha Urvile: is it only physical healing u r looking at
Stargate Tone: **
Stargate Tone: sure not
Natasha Urvile: then
Stargate Tone: as in case only the human body is 'healed'; that's only them symptoms to been healed
Stargate Tone: not the reason to the prob
Natasha Urvile: well u need to think higher
Natasha Urvile: above body mind
Stargate Tone: hm
Stargate Tone: may I ask you something now ?
Natasha Urvile: try to reach soul
Natasha Urvile: pls
Stargate Tone: if you speak to me; say 'you', but if you speak generally; use the word 'one'...or 'the person'...or something like that
Natasha Urvile: yes its my english problem
Natasha Urvile: pls excuse me for that
Stargate Tone: you was 4given before you asked
Natasha Urvile: ty
Stargate Tone: but yes; as I neither can any perfrect english
Natasha Urvile: ask u want more
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Stargate Tone: well...just to let you to know this, which is no secret
Stargate Tone: that I believe that I couldn't help so many ppl when them doctors have not been able to help them
Stargate Tone: in case I woulnd't know genuinly
Natasha Urvile: i dont doubt ur ability to cure ppl
Natasha Urvile: u r one of the blessed may be
Stargate Tone: well...donno how much it's been any my ability; but the truth I've been able to share cuz I know it
Stargate Tone: to me that's no blessing or curse; that's 'only to know'
Natasha Urvile: its his grace shining upon u
Stargate Tone: and to that I'de say that 'her'...
Natasha Urvile: anything u may as u pls
Natasha Urvile: it doesnt matter
Natasha Urvile: its only the faith
Stargate Tone: does to me
Natasha Urvile: or perception
Natasha Urvile: why
Stargate Tone: or thinking the forcies difference; as the female is the creativity, and male is controll....
Natasha Urvile: the day u realise there is no difference u rise much much higher
Stargate Tone: so; something that shines without controll to where it shines; that's female to me
Moon Fargis: re
Stargate Tone: wb Moon
Stargate Tone: why do you think I could rise higher than I aleready am ?
Stargate Tone: what is that 'higher' to you ?
Natasha Urvile: because u still c the difference
Natasha Urvile: it is the experience
Stargate Tone: so; that also is only your opinion; not mine
Natasha Urvile: htere is no u or me we r one
Moon Fargis: we, are lke leafs on a tree
Moon Fargis: we are the tree but also leafs
Stargate Tone: so you have avoided the experience of own thinking and own experieencies ?
Natasha Urvile: no
Natasha Urvile: to experience u do through this body
Natasha Urvile: but when u reach u realise
Stargate Tone: not only this body
Stargate Tone: well; reached that already 'ages' ago...dont have in my this memory such time that I wouldn't
Stargate Tone: in my this incarnation
Stargate Tone: and I remember up to my age as two weeks
Stargate Tone: meaning this incarnation
Natasha Urvile: ?
Natasha Urvile: two week?
Stargate Tone: yes
Natasha Urvile: in sl
Stargate Tone: nope
Stargate Tone: in RL
Natasha Urvile: what that means
Stargate Tone: as the quite newborn baby
Natasha Urvile: pls explain
Stargate Tone: meaning that I remember up to that my age
Natasha Urvile: u remember upto that age u mean?
Stargate Tone: yes
Natasha Urvile: that only shows good memory
Stargate Tone: yet; I dont remember such time that I wouldn't experience also that 'else'
Stargate Tone: well,,,maybe that showes good memory too...donno that
Natasha Urvile: else??
Stargate Tone: that 'oneness' you speak about
Stargate Tone: 'not to exist' what you speak about
Natasha Urvile: ok
Natasha Urvile: what ur desire now
Stargate Tone: hm
Stargate Tone: a sec
Stargate Tone: must think ...
Stargate Tone: well...the desire to get something to eat seems to rise...
Moon Fargis: well i just eaten maybe you ow get some ?:)
Stargate Tone: as I have not had time to take the proper care of my earthly body's needs
Stargate Tone: thank you
Stargate Tone: that must have happened
Stargate Tone: cuz I dont feel SO hungry than the 'time' would tell *
Stargate Tone: thank You *
Moon Fargis: ^^
Stargate Tone: so...dont want to drain you; so I'll get something to eat now
Stargate Tone: brb
Moon Fargis: so nat: what do you feel when you hear the word emptyness?
Natasha Urvile: bye
Stargate Tone: ahh...Moon and or Nat
Natasha Urvile: is there anything thats empty
Stargate Tone: would you desire the cake ?
Stargate Tone: with cream and berries and such
Natasha Urvile: no thanks i dont believe in eating in sl
Moon Fargis: wel i eaten well thanks ;)
Stargate Tone: ment in RL
Natasha Urvile: u cant share
Natasha Urvile: thnks 4 asking
Stargate Tone: well; Moon and me and Fael have been able to share this kind of things too
Moon Fargis: there s a connection to everyone of us nat
Natasha Urvile: hows that u share
Moon Fargis: like the leafs on a tree are connected to each other throught the branches
Natasha Urvile: i agree
Stargate Tone: but well; going to 'talk' with the kitchen now *
Natasha Urvile: moon lets talk
Moon Fargis: so lots of people call this connection also oneness but even t is just a half truth
Natasha Urvile: ok
Natasha Urvile: continue
Moon Fargis: when you dissolve with your body you experience this connection
Moon Fargis: cus you just fade you yourself for a while
Moon Fargis: your body as leaf
Natasha Urvile: yes
Moon Fargis: i once started this to explain some basic of buddhism
Natasha Urvile: k
Moon Fargis: but its potential is much higher
Natasha Urvile: k
Moon Fargis: but i disnt found time to continue writing :)
Natasha Urvile: k
Natasha Urvile: r u budhdhist
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: yes Zen buddhism
Natasha Urvile: from?
Moon Fargis: i live in germany :)
Natasha Urvile: k
Moon Fargis: and you ?
Natasha Urvile: india
Moon Fargis: ahyes now i more understand the meaning of a guru to you
Natasha Urvile: good
Moon Fargis: our both buddhist traditions youldnt be more different hehe
Moon Fargis: but still the same
Natasha Urvile: i respect all paths
Natasha Urvile: becos all lead to same
Natasha Urvile: whats the goal of zen budhdhism
Moon Fargis: no goal
Natasha Urvile: the final stage
Natasha Urvile: may be
Natasha Urvile: how u know
Natasha Urvile: u r there
Moon Fargis: well there are some happenings
Natasha Urvile: like?
Moon Fargis: satori
Natasha Urvile: ???
Moon Fargis: well could be described as enlightment
Natasha Urvile: thats how
Moon Fargis: also this body dissolation can happen
Natasha Urvile: what that expernce is
Natasha Urvile: ok
Natasha Urvile: theres more to it
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: oh ofcourse there are alot f results
Moon Fargis: and that always depends on the one who practise
Natasha Urvile: tell me abt urs
Moon Fargis: my results, hmm :) look around you
Moon Fargis: lk outside the winow maybe, spot a tree
Natasha Urvile: k
Moon Fargis: see and observe his beauty
Moon Fargis: basicly so start to see beuty in everything
Natasha Urvile: ok
Natasha Urvile: u dont know anything
Natasha Urvile: u r misguided
Moon Fargis: as some buddhist traditions try to fill themself , in zen you start to empty yourself
Natasha Urvile: u must learn
Moon Fargis: no :)
Natasha Urvile: u must accept u dont know anything
Moon Fargis: thats what star ment
Natasha Urvile: do u agree
Natasha Urvile: ?
Stargate Tone: b
Moon Fargis: that you just see what you learned and you know
Stargate Tone: shall scroll them lines
Natasha Urvile: do u agree
Natasha Urvile: u dont know anything
Natasha Urvile: moon???
Natasha Urvile: moon???
Natasha Urvile: r u there?
Moon Fargis: well i agree i know everything and dont know everything
Natasha Urvile: u r good
Natasha Urvile: i m pleased
Natasha Urvile: sorry i was testing u
Moon Fargis: dont worry:) my responses are a bit slow atm cus my cat want to let me know more :)
Moon Fargis: star: greetings from susi
Natasha Urvile: may all be happy
Moon Fargis: ah nat,
Natasha Urvile: yes
Moon Fargis: is it ok if i invite you to my group ?
Natasha Urvile: whats that abt
Fael Illyar: Hi Moon, Star, Natasha :)
Natasha Urvile: k
Moon Fargis: i have my own sim called hikari and lead several meditations there
Moon Fargis: ah greetings fael
Natasha Urvile: hi thr
Natasha Urvile: sim?
Moon Fargis: well a sim is a 64000 sqm large spot in secndlife
Natasha Urvile: ok
Moon Fargis: would be glad to see yu there :)
Natasha Urvile: moon
Fael Illyar: 65536sqm, Moon :)
Moon Fargis: okok :)
Natasha Urvile: i cant promise
Natasha Urvile: anything now
Natasha Urvile: my stage is
Natasha Urvile: i trying to complete this part of life before
Natasha Urvile: final destination
Natasha Urvile: or moksha
Natasha Urvile: when u realise all is false
Natasha Urvile: it is very hard to continue
Natasha Urvile: thats my stage
Stargate Tone: done
Natasha Urvile: very difficult
Moon Fargis: ah so you just started to open your eyes, yes
Moon Fargis: dont worry
Stargate Tone: 'meaning the reading of them lines'
Natasha Urvile: i didnt get u
Stargate Tone: sends greetings to Susi too; with kisses
Natasha Urvile: moon?
Moon Fargis: you noticed that all you learned is based of terems and illusions people created
Stargate Tone: that you are just awakening
Moon Fargis: terms
Moon Fargis: but thats not all
Stargate Tone: to see genuinly
Natasha Urvile: continue
Moon Fargis: yes you have to continue :)
Natasha Urvile: whats not all
Stargate Tone: ah sry; need to get back to the kitchen again
Natasha Urvile: moon
Moon Fargis: :)
Natasha Urvile: ?
Moon Fargis: hmm i think such thing cant be described with words
Moon Fargis: that have to be realized by yourself
Natasha Urvile: ok i m aware of that
Natasha Urvile: actually after reaching the stage coming back is difficult
Moon Fargis: well thats why
Natasha Urvile: well theres no need also
Moon Fargis: you try to come back from something you always where
Natasha Urvile: but for things u started need to be finished
Natasha Urvile: yes
Natasha Urvile: i take ur leave
Natasha Urvile: thank u all
Stargate Tone: *
Natasha Urvile: star?
Moon Fargis: was nice to meet you nat, hope to see you soon, maybe on one of my meditatio and babbles
Natasha Urvile: may all be happy
Natasha Urvile: bye all
Moon Fargis: bye ^^/
Fael Illyar: see you Natasha :)