2009.07.13 07:00 - Simple Things

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    Kallie Kira: hey Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello Kallie :)
    Adams Rubble: I trust you are well?
    Kallie Kira: yes, for sure ... you?
    Adams Rubble: yes although I am distracted by stuff to do
    Kallie Kira: me too
    Adams Rubble: taking a little break from it
    Kallie Kira: in my time zone, just getting started :)
    Adams Rubble: I almost came in my Kira avatar but didn't want to frighten you. hehe


    sophia Placebo: greeting
    Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
    Kallie Kira: hi Sophia :)
    Kallie Kira: how are you today Sophia?
    sophia Placebo: im good ty , yourself?
    Kallie Kira: good!


    Kallie Kira: anything to "report" on 9sec? things you are noticing?
    Adams Rubble: sorry I have to go. Forgot I had an appointment in RL this morning
    Kallie Kira: lol, ok
    sophia Placebo: bye adams
    sophia Placebo: no idont hav something to report :)
    sophia Placebo: have you tried it ?
    Kallie Kira: that's works :) sometimes there isn't anything
    Kallie Kira: tried 9sec?
    sophia Placebo: yes
    Kallie Kira: yes, for sure, many times, over and over
    Kallie Kira: you?
    sophia Placebo: not yet , it still not in my habit fully
    sophia Placebo: i may stop more or less than 9 seconds except randomly
    Kallie Kira: sure, 9sec is a suggestion, a kind of micro-meditation ... whatever works for you most naturally is good :)
    sophia Placebo: and the dropping thing im still to work on it , not sure if i get it
    Kallie Kira: yeah, to drop your thoughts and identifications, it kind of happens .... or not :)
    sophia Placebo: all or none
    Kallie Kira: lol, picturing something partly dropped, suspended in air :)
    sophia Placebo: physically dropped?
    Kallie Kira: well, yes, the picture of it, thinking about your comment "all or none" and agreeing that it would be hard to drop something partially .... sorry, kind of a tangent :)
    sophia Placebo: :)


    sophia Placebo: can one drop his/her pain ?
    Kallie Kira: I think so
    sophia Placebo: i tried to do that since i was teen
    sophia Placebo: very hard to do
    Kallie Kira: yes, I can see that also
    Kallie Kira: maybe you drop it for a moment or two
    Kallie Kira: maybe sometime you drop it for longer
    sophia Placebo: yeah
    Kallie Kira: maybe one day you look and it's not there anymore
    Kallie Kira: you can give yourself the space/option to let it go
    sophia Placebo: physical pain for longer than one day ? i'll die lol
    Kallie Kira: :)
    sophia Placebo: or go mad
    sophia Placebo: or go to doctor
    Kallie Kira: or be ok with it :)


    sophia Placebo: hello yak
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey there
    Kallie Kira: hi :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: any topic ?
    sophia Placebo: have you tried the 9 seconds yak?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not today
    Kallie Kira: any day?
    sophia Placebo: before?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: as i said 9 seconds don´t reach to get into an more relaxed state but i don´t know who asked me that before
    sophia Placebo: how long you take befor you got relaxed?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it depends i need about 5-10 minutes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i even try those techniques to memorize a relaxed state
    Yakuzza Lethecus: to bind it onto an object when you are in a state of relaxation and associate that with for example an image on the wall
    Yakuzza Lethecus: to so called ,,recall" the relaxation it´s still a bit mumbo jumbo for me
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but it might work since i even believe that we decide to be happy and that we just have to recall that, its complicated i think much about the issue that i am very static and even recall to be unhappy


    sophia Placebo: sadness can bring relaxiation too , no?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i wouldn´t call that relaxation
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least not for me
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i feel so much tension then and when i am sad i constantly think
    sophia Placebo: sadness would make you drop things you dont usually drop
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i just can´t ,,fall into the next moment"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what do you mean with drop ?
    sophia Placebo: i dont know really
    sophia Placebo: drop from your account
    sophia Placebo: drop from thinking about
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think way too much when i am say
    sophia Placebo: dropping from priority list
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sad
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i drop nothing then anymore and constantly associate negative things
    Kallie Kira: to me there is a difference between dropping and maybe sadness that crowds out other things
    sophia Placebo: crowd out other things?
    sophia Placebo: you drop good things then yak
    Kallie Kira: to crowd out, to kind of take over which is different than dropping
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah you can say that in that way
    sophia Placebo: no i mean dropping not crowding out
    sophia Placebo: and after dropping sadness become less
    sophia Placebo: lots of thoughts maybe but diffrent
    Kallie Kira: to me dropping is just that, to drop *everything*, including sadness ... so yes perhaps the sadness is lessened or eased
    sophia Placebo: yes


    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s even hard for me to recall positive things then, because i have so many things to be unhappy about in my life about my life about my envrionment and the funny thing is that thinking about what preventing me and prevented me is preventing me from changing... *that sentence is crazy*
    sophia Placebo nods
    sophia Placebo: been there before
    Kallie Kira: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: even second life is a way to get to other thoughts for me
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but in second life you are able to communicate ,,real stuff" in a virtual world and other virtual worlds might bring you just short term satisfaction
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s complicated
    sophia Placebo: then it is easy
    sophia Placebo: complex can be assembled
    sophia Placebo: simple things are the dificult
    Yakuzza Lethecus: like artificial intelligence
    sophia Placebo: or is it diseembeld?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the simple things are hard and the hard things are simple :)
    sophia Placebo: lol
    sophia Placebo: kinda
    Kallie Kira: to me, it's a mind trick ... it might look hard but it's not
    Yakuzza Lethecus: playing chess is easy for the comp while walking is hard for a robot
    Kallie Kira: I have to take off, it was nice talking with you :)
    sophia Placebo: bye kalli nice to meet you :)
    Kallie Kira: bye :) see you soon!

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