2009.09.16 13:00 - Slip Slidin' Wu-Wei

The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

Gathering together. It's nice for me to see all the guys, after some time i haven't visited the second life.

Fefonz Quan: hey fox
Wol Euler: hello fefonz
Fefonz Quan: HEY wol1
Fefonz Quan: !
Wol Euler: ! to you too :)
Fefonz Quan: good to see you
Wol Euler: likewise. How's the world?
Fefonz Quan: not so bad i must say :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Wol, and Hi Fef...Nice to see you after so long :)
Wol Euler: I hear it rained in TLV :)
Fefonz Quan: hey Lisa
Wol Euler: hello eliza
Fefonz Quan: i didn't see it...
Fefonz Quan: I got a new job though
Wol Euler grins
Wol Euler: oh congratulations
Eliza Madrigal: yes, Congrats!!
Fefonz Quan: thanks! landed here 2 weeks ago, went on a search, and signed it yesterday
Wol Euler: excellent.
Eliza Madrigal: fantastic, very quick.
Fefonz Quan nods
Wol Euler: hello yakuzza
Fefonz Quan: do hope to still have time visit here. didn't do it much lately and miss it
Fefonz Quan: hey yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yakuzza :)
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes me too Fef. I hope you're able to carve out time
Wol Euler: agreed, I hope you'll continue to attend
Fefonz Quan: it is a little weird, coming back to career life. yesterday a set on the lobby of a high-tech company and read TSK while waiting for the HR manager :)
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: A new environment to play in
Wol Euler: mmmhmm
Wol Euler: lots of fresh Being to be
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Fefonz Quan: exactley.
Yakuzza Lethecus: what did you do in princton ?
Fefonz Quan: spent 2 years there for my wife's post-doc. and also last year had an office in Pema's departmet!
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Which is how you found us? :)
Eliza Madrigal: heh
Fefonz Quan: yep
Fefonz Quan: guess many of us started with 'then pema asked me if....'
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Fefonz Quan: Wol, is there still avtivity with the lands here that were discussed in the mail group? i was quite out fo touch for WEEK
Fefonz Quan: ACTIVITY*
Wol Euler: we've bought a month to think about it.
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey shy
Fefonz Quan: great
Wol Euler: right now, it looks like we might be able to keep both Buyeo and Mugunghwa in friendly hands
Wol Euler: hello shyama
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Shyama :)Nice to see you again
Shyama Sheryffe: hi all :)
Fefonz Quan: Hi Shyama
Fefonz Quan: Mugunghwa has a wonderful sound to it
Wol Euler: it's a great place too, lovely coastal landscape.
Eliza Madrigal: yes, very nice :)
Wol Euler: were you thinking of joining us?
Fefonz Quan: are you talking to me?
Wol Euler: yes, I was.
Eliza Madrigal: HI Ara :)
Wol Euler: hello ara
arabella Ella: Hiya!
Shyama Sheryffe: hi arabella
Fefonz Quan: i think i wrote you that i would love to join as support, and give my share, but without te need to look after the land itself
Fefonz Quan: Hey Ara!
Eliza Madrigal: Sartre, Hello :)
arabella Ella: Hey Fefonz lovely to see you are back!
Fefonz Quan: hello sartre
Fefonz Quan: :)) thanks
Wol Euler: sorry, I didn't remember. My cold and the stress of work between them are mangling my mental powers
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: (Hi Fox!)
Fox Monacular: Hi everyone
arabella Ella whispers ... Hiya Fox
Wol Euler: hello fox
Wol Euler: I'd been watching you out there, I was about to IM you :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ara,fox
Fox Monacular: I was away:)
Fefonz Quan: hey Fox

The time workshop and time experience are coming up. A favorite, a you know.

Eliza Madrigal: Fef, with your new hours do you think you'll continue Time workshop?
Fefonz Quan: i hope so, it is 9pm for me, so it is feasible
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, so it depends on energy levels more than hour now
Fefonz Quan: (even was there today)
Fefonz Quan: yes exactly.
Eliza Madrigal: I started to attend today... arrived right on the hour I think... but rememebered things I needed to do
Eliza Madrigal: and had been online for my session
Fefonz Quan: oh, i didn't see you
Eliza Madrigal: missed each other... wasn't sure you were able to be there :)
Fefonz Quan: Lia and maxine came too
Eliza Madrigal: Ah :)

And Wu-Wei too.

Eliza Madrigal: I've been thinking the wu-wei discussion we have been in lately has to do with time...
Wol Euler: mmm?
Eliza Madrigal: that might be an interesting angle
arabella Ella listens
Wol Euler: oh, I see :)
Eliza Madrigal: When we are living harmoniously or are in tune... isn't it the flow of time we are experiecing as friendly?
arabella Ella: interesting aspect Eliza please could you say more?
Eliza Madrigal: when we experience ourselves to be 'in the moment' etc?
Eliza Madrigal: That's about what I have to offer Ara... turning it over :)
arabella Ella: very interesting
arabella Ella: sounds like wu wei could have a number of different applications or angles
Eliza Madrigal: yes... maybe we can look at it in a number of ways
arabella Ella: i am sure we can as
arabella Ella: wu wei involves change too it seems ... from that which i understood
arabella Ella: and time involves change too
Eliza Madrigal nods...yes...how we experience change mostly...?
Wol Euler: mick, you're ruthed :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ruthed Mick! :)
Shyama Sheryffe: hi mick
Eliza Madrigal wonders what Ya is writing

arabella Ella: i get the feeling that wu wei involves the concept of the inevitability of change ... and acceptance of that inevitability too
Mickorod Renard: phew,,that was hard work
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh dear
Mickorod Renard: Hiya
Fefonz Quan: Hey Mick
arabella Ella: what's ruthed Wol?
Mickorod Renard: yeaaa,,,fonzy
Wol Euler: Ruth is the ur-avatar, our common virtual genetic grandmother
Fefonz Quan: you look different thsn remembered
Wol Euler: when the databsase gets really messed up, we present in a female body wearing default hair and clothes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila!
arabella Ella: ah
Fefonz Quan: hey Pila
Mickorod Renard: Hi Pila
Pila Mulligan: greetings
Fox Monacular: Hi Pila, hi Mick
Shyama Sheryffe: hi pila
Mickorod Renard: I will log in and out
arabella Ella: and how does that happen Wol do you know?
Fox Monacular: nice outfit, Micj
Fox Monacular: Mick
arabella Ella: Hiya Pila
Wol Euler: well, there are at least a dozen databases and maybe twice that many computesr involved in presenting us all here, excluding our own computers at home
Fefonz Quan: So how comes Mick was rithed and Pila didn't?
Wol Euler: any one of them can foul things up for the rest of the chain
Wol Euler: perhaps Mick and Pila are on different servers
arabella Ella: ah
Wol Euler: wb mick
Fefonz Quan: at least he was not rickrolled...
Eliza Madrigal: There's Mick!
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Wol Euler: looking better, Mick.
Mickorod Renard: he he he
Mickorod Renard: ty,,the sex change was all very refreshing
Wol Euler grins
Eliza Madrigal grins... for us too
arabella Ella: Mick I told you not to borrow my tops :)
Wol Euler: try it, you'll like it.
Pila Mulligan: made me nervous
Fefonz Quan: btw mick, you still ear a strange white blouse
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: wear*
arabella Ella giggles silently
Mickorod Renard: he he ..still struggling
Mickorod Renard: I must remember to shave my chest next time
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: nice tats, mick.
Pila Mulligan wonders if Yak is writing an essay
Eliza Madrigal: War and Peace 2
arabella Ella: i think Yaku is afk as I IM d him to tell him but got no response
Pila Mulligan: it is interesting that we wait patinently to hear what he will say

And the RL retreat comes up again, a recently hot item. Not surprising i would say. I still miss it when i have the time to ponder

between the busy tasks and schedule i run here.

Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Fef...haven't had a chance to ask you about your retreat experience
Eliza Madrigal: Guess not
Eliza Madrigal: hahha
Mickorod Renard: he he
Fox Monacular: :)
arabella Ella: Pila he has been typing for 15 - 20 mins now so i guess Yaku is stuck in an anim
Eliza Madrigal giggles.... I can have that affect on people
Pila Mulligan: it seems so arabella
Fefonz Quan: well, it was great, but i guess i'll bore everyone if i chitchat abot it again
Pila Mulligan: not at all Fefonz
Eliza Madrigal: yes it is nice to hear from everyone
Fefonz Quan: it seems so far away now...
arabella Ella: yes Fef would love to hear more about retreat from you
Pila Mulligan: wb Yak
Wol Euler: ah, wb yak
Mickorod Renard: I havnt heard your angle on it yet Fef
Fefonz Quan: wb yak
Fefonz Quan: the nice woods, the great atmosphere, the long silent minutes.ours of contemplation
Fefonz Quan: hours*
Mickorod Renard: nice
Fefonz Quan: and the occasion cheerful talks at the meal table
Wol Euler smiles
Mickorod Renard: I heard the meals were good
Pila Mulligan: (with reportedly excellent food too)
Fefonz Quan: and genesis's great Yoga classes
arabella Ella: if I may ask on a positive note what did you find most surprising?
Pila Mulligan: was it hatha yoga, Fefonz/
Pila Mulligan: ?
Mickorod Renard: and I heard the dreams were good?..were they for you too?
Fefonz Quan: not sure Mick, i dream all the time
Fefonz Quan: (at night :))
Mickorod Renard: grin
Fefonz Quan: Einger i think Pila
Pila Mulligan: thanks
Eliza Madrigal: Some mentioned that they seemed to have more alive dreaming in that setting :)
Fefonz Quan: surprising?.... i am not sure.
arabella Ella: does that mean many surprises or no surprises :)
arabella Ella: (perhaps I should have said - most long lasting impression?)
Fefonz Quan: well, since i didn't spend a lot of time'imagining' how it would be, maybe surprise wasa not the right word for it
arabella Ella: ah
Pila Mulligan: hello Reuth
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Reuth
Reuth Luik: hello
Shyama Sheryffe: hi reuth
Mickorod Renard: Hi Reuth
Fefonz Quan: long lasting impression - that the RL meeting, though rooted in the SL aquantanice, was so different, so close and multi-layered
arabella Ella: Hiya Reuth
Fefonz Quan: Hey Reuth
arabella Ella: :)
Reuth Luik: he hey to everybody!
Eliza Madrigal: Do you normally go on retreats, Fefonz, or was this new for you
arabella Ella: lovely way of putting it Fefonz
Mickorod Renard: sounds lovely Fef
Fefonz Quan: it was the firstPaB retreat for me :)
Shyama Sheryffe: sry, i must leave, goodnight all :)
Pila Mulligan: goldwing, greeetings
Eliza Madrigal: Hi goldwing
Yakuzza Lethecus: night shy
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Shy, good to see you :)
Wol Euler: welcome to second life, goldwing! born today.
Pila Mulligan: bue Shyama
Mickorod Renard: bye shy
Wol Euler: bye shyama
Fefonz Quan: Did went to several retreats Eliza, meditation/buddhist ones, as well as other workshops
Fefonz Quan: bye Shyama
Eliza Madrigal: yes that's what I wondered :) thanks
Reuth Luik: may i ask what are you all gujs doing here?
Fefonz Quan: ello goldwing. have you been here before?
Pila Mulligan: just chatting
goldwing Rallier: no forst time
goldwing Rallier: brb
Wol Euler: we are a meditation group, we meet here to discuss our practices and matters arising.
--BELL--
Wol Euler: ATM we are talking about a meeting in RL last month
Reuth Luik: wow did you met on real life too?
Wol Euler: some of us, yes. And another retreat is being planned for January
Fefonz Quan: Reuth and Goldwing, since we record our discussions here and put it on a website, we need to ask your permission to quote your lines too
Reuth Luik: sure mo problem
Eliza Madrigal: Good to see everyone :) I need to go, Bye for now
Pila Mulligan: bye Eliza
Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
Fefonz Quan: Bye Eliza
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza
arabella Ella: bye Eliza
Fefonz Quan: good to see you
Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
Pila Mulligan: thanks for the comments and information, Fefonz
Fefonz Quan: no problem Pila. it is nice to get the memories up too :)\
Pila Mulligan: next year in Malta :)
Fefonz Quan: yey!
arabella Ella: and Fef I dont think any of us ever get bored listening to stuff about the retreat :)
Wol Euler: true
arabella Ella: yea Malta ...
arabella Ella: i cant promise woods here though ...
Fefonz Quan: and i didn't mention the inspiring guidance of Pema (with Stim spicing)
arabella Ella: :)
arabella Ella: i am looking into costings at the moment
arabella Ella: and location
Mickorod Renard: I am not sure I can escape work for the malta date
Fefonz Quan: coasting? :)
arabella Ella: owwwww
arabella Ella: prices Fef
Yakuzza Lethecus: is there already a fixed date for malta ?
arabella Ella: yes
Fefonz Quan: what date Ara?
arabella Ella: last week of January - dont have exact dates here but it is four nights, three days
Wol Euler makes a note
Fefonz Quan: ?
arabella Ella: :)
Fefonz Quan: 4 nights, three days? coming at night, leaving in the morning?
arabella Ella: he he
arabella Ella: if you wish Fef ... or stay on longer
arabella Ella: i mean arrive one day
arabella Ella: have following three full days retreat
Pila Mulligan: :)
arabella Ella: then leave last evening or next morning
arabella Ella hopes that makes some sense :)
Fefonz Quan: ah, cool
Pila Mulligan: easier than five nights and three days
Mickorod Renard: would it be too confusing if I arrived on an afternoon?
arabella Ella: i guess all are free to arrive anytime
Pila Mulligan: by the way, it appears you can register any avi name at all, including your real life name, on the Opensim grids -- anyone want to be Genghis Kahn?
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: :)
Wol Euler: but only one name per e-mail address :) they don'T believe in alts.
Pila Mulligan: Khan*
Yakuzza Lethecus: counts the OSgrid account for all opensim grids ?
arabella Ella: but Wol so many of us have multiple email addresses - sure it is not IP number?
arabella Ella has four email addresses
Pila Mulligan: it seems not Yak -- each grid has its own names
Wol Euler: nope, they specifically said "that e-mail adress is in use" when I tried to register my other selves
arabella Ella: so Wol ... if you need more names just open new hotmail or gmail accounts ... easy
Reuth Luik: by everyone
Wol Euler: that's what I did :)
arabella Ella: :)
Wol Euler: bye reuth, take care
Mickorod Renard: bye reuth
Fefonz Quan: bye reuth
Reuth Luik: have a nice time here!
arabella Ella: bye Reuth
Mickorod Renard: ty
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye reuth
Pila Mulligan: bye Reuth
Pila Mulligan: yep, I did the same -- severa alts
Pila Mulligan: several emails
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol, i have to thing about bayreuth :)
arabella Ella: If I may ask Wol ... do you manage to keep track of all the logins and PWs?
Wol Euler: easy, I have a Mac. It just works.
Fefonz Quan: hehe Yaku :)
Wol Euler grins
arabella Ella: cool
arabella Ella: a colleague also told me Mac does not get viruses ... is that right?
Wol Euler: they are much safer as delivered from the factory, yes.
arabella Ella: cos i recently had a 'trojan' ... sounds so bad
Fefonz Quan: i will have to go to sleep, hope i'll get the log link later.
Pila Mulligan: it can be abd Ara
Wol Euler: but behaving foolishly can get you in trouble on a Mac too.
Pila Mulligan: bad*
arabella Ella: nite Fef lovely to see you
Wol Euler: bye fef, take care. happy working!
Pila Mulligan: bye Fefonz, nice to see you again
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye fef
Mickorod Renard: nite Fef
Fefonz Quan: Bye all, great seeing you again, hope to meet soon
Fefonz Quan: namaste
arabella Ella: thing is the trojan is transmitted via email with attachments posturing as photos from friends i know
Pila Mulligan: namaste
arabella Ella: but it says Foto ... so that is now a giveaway
Wol Euler: right
Yakuzza Lethecus: the amount of viruses decreases with the use of systems, linux for example also got viruses but there are so many distroֲ´s out...
arabella Ella: yes
Wol Euler: a certain amount of suspicion and distrust is necessary ;)
arabella Ella hates suspicion and distrust
Pila Mulligan: :)
Wol Euler: me too, but it beats rebuilding your computer.
Pila Mulligan: maybe prudent caution :)
arabella Ella: yes
Wol Euler: yes, nicely said pila
arabella Ella: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think most of my playasbeing emails went into the spamfilter until i noticed that i got mailes from the group :)
Pila Mulligan: like my response to mick's earlier avi -- what is this now?
arabella Ella: :)
arabella Ella: diplomatic i see
Wol Euler: :)
Mickorod Renard: ;)
Pila Mulligan: anyone want to play with Pila's new tai chi pose balls?
Wol Euler grins
Pila Mulligan: quite fun -- syndhornized
Pila Mulligan: sycnhronized*
Mickorod Renard: well thats an offer hard to refuse
Wol Euler: sure-
arabella Ella: yes please Pila
Pila Mulligan: it is on the oposite corner of this sim
--BELL--
arabella Ella: thanks Pila
Pila Mulligan: up up and away ... :)
arabella Ella: may we have a look now if you dont mind?
Fox Monacular: ghbors now
Pila Mulligan: yes, please
Wol Euler: let's go.
arabella Ella: great ty
arabella Ella: c u there then
Fox Monacular: thanks Pila, we're neighbors now
Wol Euler: this way