2009.09.08 19:00 - Slightly weird but delightful

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: ;) hiya eos
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Paradise!
Eos Amaterasu is lost in a seemingly boundary-less 90 secs :-)
Paradise Tennant: :)
Eos Amaterasu: It's like being thrown in an ocean :-)
Paradise Tennant: hmmm be part of the ocean and its all good :)
Eos Amaterasu: sharks are me
Paradise Tennant: lol
Eos Amaterasu: How are you doing these days?
Paradise Tennant: very well thank you for asking .. just winding down for the day ..having a chai .. :)) happy to be home :)
Eos Amaterasu: Here it's winding the day down time
Paradise Tennant: what time is it there ?
Eos Amaterasu: 11:07
Paradise Tennant: ahh you are ahead of me .. only 10.07 here
Eos Amaterasu: I am in the future :-)
Paradise Tennant: yes :))
Paradise Tennant: hiya pila gtsy :)
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Pila
Pila Mulligan: greetings from the past
Pila Mulligan: :)
Eos Amaterasu: Welcome to our present here :-)
Pila Mulligan: thanks, it is a nice gift
Paradise Tennant: :)
Pila Mulligan: I hope you both are well
Paradise Tennant: yes thanks and you ?
Pila Mulligan: I also am well, thanks

Plotting plots

Eos Amaterasu: Do either of you have guardian land in-world?
Pila Mulligan: yes
Paradise Tennant: no but was thinking I would contribute to the land costs regardless.. have always been a homeless sler :))
Pila Mulligan: I like it since it is free, but I certainly don't want to enjoy it by burdening Pema or anyone
Eos Amaterasu: I have a plot, from which I've already removed my stuff - I was tending toward an open meadow way of being anyway
Pila Mulligan: there is a flurry of emails among guardian landowners as to what to do :)
Paradise Tennant: yes have been reading some of them
Pila Mulligan: I like open areas too Eos
Eos Amaterasu: I also like the village idea
Paradise Tennant: not sure of the numbers is it very expensive
Pila Mulligan: Storm is busy making a subtitute realm for PaB plot while PaB plots are plotting to keep their present ones :)
Paradise Tennant: ahh kk does he have his onw world platform
Eos Amaterasu: plotting plots
Pila Mulligan: it is mildly chaotic :)
Eos Amaterasu: chaordic
Pila Mulligan: I'd suggest we all contribute a little so Pema can pay the next month and thus buy some time to od it more roderly
Pila Mulligan: do it in 5 weeks instead of 1
Paradise Tennant: kk what does it cost
Pila Mulligan: ?
Pila Mulligan: $15 each?
Paradise Tennant: a month of time
Pila Mulligan: just a guess

 

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: sounds like a plan :)
Pila Mulligan: :)

Retreating plots

Eos Amaterasu: Part of this transition is I think also about providing more retreat opportunities
Paradise Tennant: nods good idea
Pila Mulligan: so it seems, Eos
Eos Amaterasu: and playing around with ways to do that here in SL
Paradise Tennant: seems like there would be a variety of options
Eos Amaterasu: I think one of the simple truths about play as being is that the more often you do/be (it)
Eos Amaterasu: the more it happens
Pila Mulligan: maybe the OpenSim technoolgy would be harmonious with developing retreat opporutnities -- it is more private than SL for now
Eos Amaterasu: and so creating environment where that happens a lot, in various ways, light hearted, would be great

Fefonz & Stevenaia enter the plot

Pila Mulligan: Fefonz! welcome
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Fefonz!
Paradise Tennant: hiya fefonz
Fefonz Quan: Hello everybody )
Pila Mulligan: you are up early :)
Fefonz Quan: yes, woke up and couldn't get back to sleep
Pila Mulligan: happy to see you
Fefonz Quan: me too Pila
Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
Paradise Tennant: hiya steve
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Stevenaia
Fefonz Quan: hey Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Fefonz
stevenaia Michinaga: Pila, Eos Paradise
Pila Mulligan: we were chatting about the PaB plots revisions and retreat ideas for online
Fefonz Quan: online?
Pila Mulligan: in-world
Pila Mulligan: SL
stevenaia Michinaga: online retreats soounds very convenient
Eos Amaterasu: More, and more intensive, practice occasions online
Pila Mulligan: Fef, what were your favorites parts about the retreat
Fefonz Quan: sounds interesting
Fefonz Quan: Comunicating with the people in RL i guess
Pila Mulligan: retreater reports have been coming in here since it ended
Fefonz Quan: and the atmosphere of practice that was created that was inspiring and profound
Pila Mulligan: and the food?
Pila Mulligan: the food has gotten high marks
Fefonz Quan: yes, that too :)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, very yummy
Fefonz Quan: though now that i am in tel aviv, i can get good food here too :)
Pila Mulligan: escaped from McDonalds
Fefonz Quan: yep
Eos Amaterasu: the physical ambience of the rl retreat made a difference, too
Pila Mulligan: talk is of a Januray retreat in Malta, by the way
Fefonz Quan: yes, malta sounds great
Eos Amaterasu: very blue sky, clear, great trees, blue jays, deer
stevenaia Michinaga: that keeps sounding better all the time
Pila Mulligan: Maxine's rabbit
Eos Amaterasu: and the crisp apple slices shes brought me as I sat under a redwood tree
Pila Mulligan: Maxine told about a little rabbit she met each day on her wood walks
Pila Mulligan: :)
Fefonz Quan: ah, didn't hear about the rabbit
Fefonz Quan: sounds like Alice
Fefonz Quan: :)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Fefonz Quan: and we were aiming at the rabbit hole
Eos Amaterasu: Tying 90s secs in SL to same 90 secs in RL
Pila Mulligan: sounds like you got a few times at least
Paradise Tennant: :)

--BELL--

Fefonz Quan: (and no IMs meanwhile :)
Eos Amaterasu: How was that rabbit hole?
Fefonz Quan: ( i used a quote, i guess it was misunderstood)
Fefonz Quan: (->Eos)
Paradise Tennant: there is no substitute really for rl connection .. physical presence on many levels but sl does provide a viable option to practise and connect on a different level
Fefonz Quan: i agree
Paradise Tennant: in world retreats would work too .. no crisp apple slices but shared attention .. like focus
Eos Amaterasu: :-(
Fefonz Quan: and the fact we had the SL experience previously gave the retreat a totally different point to start from
Eos Amaterasu: yes, Fefonz!
Paradise Tennant: yes you were already connected
Fefonz Quan nods
Eos Amaterasu: slightly weird but delightful
Fefonz Quan: yes, good description Eos
Fefonz Quan: i can use that phrasing to other things too...
Paradise Tennant: well you get the same person really - maybe here it is just a five inch cartoon but really the same person regardless the same attention .. intention .. presence :)
Fefonz Quan: same person, slightly different persona? (me wonder)
Eos Amaterasu: inside as source of outsides, in RL, SL, dreaming....

Speaking of dreaming...

Paradise Tennant: well reality manifests .. :)) regardless of the venue :)
Pila Mulligan: Maxine talked some about that at her workshop earlier
Pila Mulligan: dream spcae during the day at the retreat
Paradise Tennant: do you remember your dreams pila
Fefonz Quan: yes, she shared some of this in the rereat too
Pila Mulligan: yes, Paradise
Fefonz Quan too
Paradise Tennant: i envy you two then .. mine disappear like mist .. not even shreds left usually
Pila Mulligan: maybe you wake up too fast :)
Eos Amaterasu: it seems to be a trainable skill, with some people of course having more talent
Paradise Tennant: ;) takes me a long time to wake .. i drink a copy of coffee and stare out at the sun rising for a long time before i really move ..
Paradise Tennant: would like to learn how
Fefonz Quan: not that it is always convenient Paradise
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: if you are interested you probably can learn to rememebr dreams
Fefonz Quan: sometimes i think 'dreamless' sleep is calmer
Paradise Tennant: can you set the stage for beautiful dreams .. like tonight I would like to be sailing on a blue blue ocean
Paradise Tennant: I think there are always dreams ..
Fefonz Quan: not in my experience
Pila Mulligan: some people dream that way
Paradise Tennant: regardless of whether or not we remember them
Pila Mulligan: Maxine thinks we contonuously dream also
Fefonz Quan: i guess, but in a way what you don't remember won't bother you ;-)
Paradise Tennant: yes
Pila Mulligan: :)
Eos Amaterasu: A lot of our seemingly waking life is dreaming of one kind or another
Paradise Tennant: yes
Pila Mulligan: imagination and fantasy and dreams are no doubt cousins
Fefonz Quan: yes, and we put that on the reality, like making an 'augmented reality' of our own
Eos Amaterasu: What I learned at RL retreat is that some people can use that as a way of knowing, a practice

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: been rereading the self aware universe - our sense of self but a tangled hierarchy a point of disconnect with the quantum mind :)
Pila Mulligan: Polynesians actually used dreaming in trans-oceanic navigation :)
Paradise Tennant: nice
Paradise Tennant: yikes my chat is in time warp .. coming out in strange order.. earlier comments showing up much later :)
Pila Mulligan: mine has been laggy too
Fefonz Quan: be careful with saying 'quantum mind' next to a physicist :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: ok
Paradise Tennant: :)
Fefonz Quan: hehe
Eos Amaterasu is getting asynching feeling
Fefonz Quan: can you say more Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: laughing about the asynch world we live in: our typos often show that
Eos Amaterasu: I think Wol said that in a log - typos are SL body language
Paradise Tennant: great comment
Fefonz Quan thinks they show more about technical abilities...
Eos Amaterasu: the converstions here are often made of several threaded strands
Fefonz Quan: and the fact we (in contrast with the youngsters today) were not born with a keyboard attached
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: and the time of day sometimes .. sleepy .. much more in the way of body language
Fefonz Quan: Eos, did you mean you get asynching feeling in RL too?
Paradise Tennant: sorry have to ask asynching .. = a sinking ?
Fefonz Quan ask cause i think i know that feeling
Eos Amaterasu: there's mixed RL and SL - as Paradise said, sometimes phrases arrive out of order
Eos Amaterasu: plus we often have several conversations going, interweaving
Pila Mulligan: are you a-synching into a rabbit hole?
Eos Amaterasu: plus we can look up immediate past, scroll back
Eos Amaterasu: not to mention googling and reading old logs
Eos Amaterasu: and then every now and then just being here :-)
Paradise Tennant: google and wiki .. so we have ginormous brains ..it is all good

How Google interviews

Fefonz Quan: Guess we do that in RL too Eos.
Fefonz Quan: though google remembers better...
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, indeed
Fefonz Quan: (talked with a google recruiter yesterday, btw)
Eos Amaterasu: (cool)
Pila Mulligan: it would be an interesting place to work
Paradise Tennant: google will run the world
Paradise Tennant: :)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Fefonz Quan: they seem to have an interesting procedure to interview...
Pila Mulligan: how so?
Fefonz Quan: about 5-6 meetings, each 45 min, in which they give you problems to solve, and down to coding it.
Pila Mulligan: one problem per meeting?
Paradise Tennant: interesting .. microsoft does something similar
Fefonz Quan: don't know Pila, didn't go to the interview yet
Pila Mulligan: would you have to work in California?
Fefonz Quan: obviously not. they have branches here too
Pila Mulligan: ahh -- didn't know
Fefonz Quan: not that i think i will go there, doesn't seem like my type of work.
Pila Mulligan: i like to one day a week for personal projects
Fefonz Quan: yes, me too :)
Eos Amaterasu: At least!

--BELL--

Fefonz Quan: though you have that in other places - there it's called saturday ;-)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Fefonz Quan landed from the PaB retreat straight to job searching in a few days. what a change
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan needs to be going -- nice to see everyone -- bye for now
Eos Amaterasu: working as being :-)
Paradise Tennant: I am going to have excuse myself ..sorry getting very very sleepy .. time to walk the dog and go to bed .. per chance to dream :)) thank you all .. be well :))
Fefonz Quan: bye Pila, good seeing you
Eos Amaterasu: Caio, Para!
Pila Mulligan: same Fef, thanks
Fefonz Quan: bye paradise
Eos Amaterasu: Bye Pila
Paradise Tennant: good nite .. eos ..pila fefonz .. always a pleasure :))
Fefonz Quan: guess i'll go too, try to get back to sleep
Eos Amaterasu: And I'll try to start sleep - good night/morn