2009.09.18 01:00 - Future retreats

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.



    I sat alone and listened to the birds for a half hour, then Pema arrived just as I was about to log off.

    Wol Euler: hello pema, nice to see you again
    Pema Pera: Hi Wol!
    Pema Pera: Interesting that recording started when you came in, not when I came in
    Pema Pera: perhaps because you had just left?
    Pema Pera: we must have missed each other by one minute!
    Wol Euler: oh no, it started because I clicked on the listener
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Pema Pera: but normally it starts automagically right?
    Wol Euler: it will start or re-start automatically within the first 30 minutes of the hour, but not after that.
    Pema Pera: ah, okay
    Pema Pera: sorry to be so late
    Wol Euler: no worries
    Wol Euler: how's life in Japan?
    Pema Pera: oh fine, but busier than I expected
    Pema Pera: being here only for two weeks, instead of my usual four to six weeks or so, means I have to cram so many activities into a short time
    Wol Euler grins and nods
    Pema Pera: and alas, that means fewer PaB sessions.
    Pema Pera: Have there been any particular highlights I may have missed, the last week or two?
    Wol Euler thinks. I'm afraid that I have been missing a lot too, I'm working too many hours and hve not been reading hte logs regularly
    Wol Euler: Fefonz is back online fter his move, we had a good conversation a few days back
    Wol Euler: and there has been a lot of talk about land reform
    Pema Pera: sorry to have missed most of that
    Pema Pera: I've been too busy too to read all the logs -- hope to get back into that mode soon again
    Pema Pera: btw, with 4 retreats a year, it would be good to plan a little ahead for 2010.
    Wol Euler: yes, we could well do that.
    Wol Euler: oh, right, that reminds me.


    A German retreat?

    Pema Pera: Would you be interested in organizing a Fall meeting, October 2010, in your area?
    Wol Euler: Ara has picked the last week of January for the Malta retreat, "4 nights and 3 days" was her expression
    Wol Euler: and yes, I would be glad do that.
    Pema Pera: yes, those were the days that I had suggested, arriving January 25, departing January 29.
    Pema Pera: same duration as the California retreat: 4 nites, 3 full days
    Wol Euler: ah, was it that short? I'm surprised, I imagined from the reports that it was much longer
    Pema Pera: shows the intensity!
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Wol Euler just had a great idea. The Starnberger See is just outside of Munich, you can get there and back by subway :)
    Wol Euler: and Munich has an international airport
    Pema Pera: good idea!
    Wol Euler: I'll have a scout around, see if htere are any suitable places there.
    Pema Pera: if you could explore availabilty
    Pema Pera: some time middle of October might be good -- when will the fall colors peak?
    Pema Pera: (of course, that may be the most expensive time then, too)


    Wol Euler: mmhmm - but it's not as dramatic as New England :)
    Wol Euler: I think it has to be very near a major city and an international airport, if there is to be a chance of non-Euros attending
    Wol Euler: which rules out Stuttgart, alas
    Pema Pera: well, train from Muenchen to Stuttgart is what, two or three hours?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: but then an hour in the bus to the retreat place that I had been to
    Wol Euler: I think that's just impractical
    Wol Euler: I'll go with the Starnberger See idea, that seems a simple win to me
    Pema Pera: yes, I see your point. Okay, Muenchen may well be better then.
    Wol Euler: and it makes the Beer Evening very easy! heheheheh
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Wol Euler: we could make it end of September and coincide with Oktoberfest ...
    Pema Pera: oh, that's a nice idea!
    Wol Euler: if people really wanted to. But that is pretty well the exact opposite of PaB and retreating :)
    Pema Pera: but again, prices may be higher then
    Wol Euler: much higher
    Pema Pera: well, I'm not sure -- PaB is about integration (responding to previous remark)
    Wol Euler chuckles
    Pema Pera: in fact, I'm not at all sure that we want to have "classical retreat style" meetings all the time.
    Pema Pera: The first time, in California, it was good to have a quiet out-of-the-way place
    Pema Pera: But I would be eager to also try a city setting
    Pema Pera: just meeting in cafes or so, or on a terrace, or wherever
    Pema Pera: why not?
    Wol Euler: sure, I like that idea
    Wol Euler: many cafes have upstairs rooms ...
    Pema Pera: or rent a meeting room in a hotel we all stay in, and go out in the evenings
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: And if people share hotel rooms, the price wouldn't be higher than a retreat center visit
    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Where else might be fun to meet? 

    Wol Euler: so who do we have in France? could we organize a Paris retreat?
    Wol Euler: or Nice/Marseilles/Menton
    Pema Pera: alas, nobody I know in France in PaB, that is
    Pema Pera: but Mark van Atten lives in Paris
    Pema Pera: he is part of the time workshop
    Pema Pera: and a good friend of mine
    Wol Euler: Paris in springtime ...
    Pema Pera: It would be closer for all the UK folks!
    Pema Pera: sure :-)
    Pema Pera whistles I love Paris . . .
    Wol Euler: hehehehe
    Wol Euler: the UKers could take the Chunnel train, true.
    Wol Euler: I'd assumed they would fly, and if you are already going to the bother of flying then it doesn't actually matter how *far* you fly
    Pema Pera: true
    Pema Pera: Well, nice to think about options! Really looking forward to Malta.
    Wol Euler: the taxi ride to the airport is usually longer than any intra-European flight
    Wol Euler: yes, Malta should be great.
    Pema Pera: We could do Malta in January, California in April, Hawaii in July, Muenchen in October?
    Wol Euler: sounds like a plan
    Wol Euler: and try long-term to organize Paris and Moscow (Alf Kelberry could help with that)
    Wol Euler: oh, and we know somebody who could organize Tokyo!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: sure
    Wol Euler: I'd love to go to Japan...
    Pema Pera: talking about Tokyo, I have to get going . . .
    Wol Euler: mmm, right :)
    Pema Pera: good seeing you again!
    Wol Euler: it was nice to see you again, Pema
    Pema Pera: bye for now
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