2008.06.21 07:00 - Bye Bye Barrista

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    Fael was the guardian for this morning. She sent me the following log with her comments.

    I was waiting at the new meeting house. Pema was the first to arrive. Soon followed by Pia. Looks like SL was having slight problems again.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Pema :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Pia :)
    Pia Iger: Hi, Fael,
    Pema Pera: Hi Fael and Pia!
    Pema Pera: Had some trouble coming here — got diverted to a nearby welcome area
    Pema Pera: where I did not feel very welcome
    Pema Pera: amidst a few dozen avatars packed on top of each other
    Pema Pera: like sardines in a can
    Pia Iger: me too.
    Pia Iger: they are all grey.
    Pema Pera: yes
    Fael Illyar: SL having problems again … how come I’m not surprised :)

    We spend some time wondering about systems that’d actually work.

    Pema Pera: haha yes
    Pema Pera: well, some day they’ll get serious competition
    Pema Pera: and they’ll have to shape up
    Pema Pera: may not be that far in the future
    Pia Iger: I hope so. It should be like that.
    Fael Illyar: I’d like to think they’re working at it even though it works badly now :)
    Pia Iger: to encourage improvement.
    Fael Illyar: They’re themselves opening the server too so … if nothing else, that will get some sort of competition
    Pema Pera: Oh, I’m sure they’re working on it, but at the same time they are adding features . . . . not clear whether the net effect is making things better or worse.
    Fael Illyar: haha, yes :)
    Pema Pera: yes, indeed, Fael
    Pia Iger: Fred mention the other day, Sun is doing something new of virtual world.
    Pema Pera: As I mentioned recently, I’m talking with various people involved in these things, and it’s fascinating to get a flavor of the complexities
    Pema Pera: yes, Pia, Wonderland
    Pema Pera: online massively multi-player 3D virtual worlds are among the most complex pieces of software, I’m sure

    Moon arrives.

    Fael Illyar: Especially those that are built by users :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Moon :)
    Pema Pera: or by companies in a hurry . . . .
    Pema Pera: HI Moon!
    Moon Fargis: hi pema, hi everyone
    Pema Pera: I once heard Philip Rosedale use a wonderful image to describe how they were improving SL
    Pia Iger: Hi, Moon,
    Pema Pera: “like switching engines on a Boeing 747 in mid flight”

    Pema has a wonderful quote that gives a nice idea of the difficulty of keeping SL running and stable. The only thing the quote is missing is that this particular Boeing 747 would be gaining weight all the time.

    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Fael Illyar: Yes, I get the feeling it’s a bit like that :)
    Pia Iger: very proper image:
    Pia Iger: Moon, is our bell here?
    Pema Pera: btw, I put up a lot of new blog entries, and even one with 12 photos!
    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/200...ges-and-moves/
    Pema Pera: you see, Pia, after you handed me one photo
    Moon Fargis: pia: yes
    Pema Pera: I learned and learned . . .
    Pema Pera: and finally I got fluent :)
    Pema Pera: thanks for letting me know that two of your photos were missing
    Fael Illyar: and now you’re taking snapshots left and right :)
    Pia Iger: 12 is a dozen:)
    Pema Pera: that’s corrected now
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pia Iger: a lot.
    Pema Pera: like the number of cushions here in the circle
    Pema Pera: I just thought it would be nice to give the reader a sense of the new place
    Pema Pera: it was the evening we had our first (second half) lengthy sit here
    Pema Pera: the evening before Moon’s neon sign
    Pema Pera: Don’t have many pictures of that
    Pema Pera: Moon, did you take pics?
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: no
    Pema Pera: or were you too busy making trouble?
    Pema Pera: thought so :)
    Pema Pera: well, I have some
    Moon Fargis: im always busy making trubble
    Pema Pera: will put them up later today
    Pema Pera: hehe
    Moon Fargis: btw got the 1pm log from yesterdays talk ?
    Moon Fargis: its is quiet.. funny :-)
    Pia Iger: BTW, we don’t have roof in the center?

    We move to talking about difficulties dealing with time in SL. Especially with regards to RL.

    Pema Pera: yesterday is which date?
    Pia Iger: haha
    Moon Fargis: hum
    Pema Pera is always puzzled with the date line
    Pema Pera: 1 pm June 20 you mean?
    Moon Fargis: 3 meetings before this one
    Pia Iger: funny reference
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: what session in the reign of the new pavillion ?
    Moon Fargis: eh our next meeting is at 1 PM then substract 24 hours
    Pema Pera: I think I got it: Solo send June 20, 4 pm
    Pema Pera: he must have meant that
    Pema Pera: so yes, I guess
    Pema Pera: ah, time is trouble in SL !!!!
    Pema Pera: space drops away
    Pema Pera: and time is a humongous pain
    Moon Fargis: absolutley
    Fael Illyar: timezones :)
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Pema Pera: we should all switch to GMT, Universal Time
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Pema Pera: like the Chinese, they all have Beijing time
    Fael Illyar: I could talk in GMT if I wanted to but when things relate to SL, it’s better to use SL time :)
    Pema Pera: Well, if the Chinese concur the world, all our time problems will be solve!
    Moon Fargis: well..
    Pia Iger: :)
    Pema Pera: Yes, Fael, but my neighbors in RL won’t understand SLT . . ..
    Moon Fargis: meh
    Moon Fargis: :)
    Pema Pera: meh?
    Fael Illyar: Ah, yes, that they won’t :)
    Moon Fargis: yes meh! :)
    Pema Pera: so we need a regulation mechanism in RL first
    Pema Pera: meh!
    Moon Fargis: you will understand this when you read the log :)
    Pema Pera: Chinese are more likely to regulate than the Indians
    Pema Pera: which “the log” ?:)
    Pema Pera: how many sessions ago?
    Moon Fargis: 1pm log 3 sessions
    Moon Fargis: brb need a relogin

    Moon leaves for a moment…

    Pema Pera attempted a sneak preview, only to realize the log is in @#$%&* microsoft word Fael Illyar: …

    … and returns.

    Faenik: indeed?
    Pema Pera heroically jumping through hopes in conversion until reaching emacs and unix
    Pia Iger: sorry to say, nobody think cusion is too big?
    Fael Illyar: something wrong with big cushions?
    Moon Fargis: hehe emacs is cool
    Pia Iger: I feel AV swallowed by cusion.
    Moon Fargis: used memacs here on my amiga sometimes
    Pia Iger: and visually they dominated the view of the room.
    Pema Pera: Yes, they are quite big, Pia
    Pema Pera: good for takling a nap perhaps :-)
    Pema Pera: *taking
    Pia Iger: just being frank, I’d like them to be a bit smaller and less puffy.
    Pema Pera: We need a cat posture
    Pema Pera: curling up
    Pema Pera: well, Dakini will read this blog
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Pema Pera: so saying it may result in them shrinking
    Pema Pera: you never know
    Pema Pera: wait a couple days till the blog is up :-)
    Pia Iger: color is righ what I imagined though, orange:)
    Fael Illyar: Well we do have edit rights to these by the way :)
    Pema Pera: okay, Fael, do you want to shrink wrap Pia’s cushion?
    why not
    Fael Illyar: oh… apparently can’t resize
    Pema Pera: Moon discovers relativity theory
    Pema Pera: either make cushion smaller
    Pema Pera: or self bigger
    Pia Iger: true:)
    Moon Fargis: one second please brb

    Moon leaves for a moment again.

    Faenik: ah :)
    Pema Pera: no fun — wanted to take a picture — and he went poof
    Pema Pera: life of a blogger . . . ah!

    Wikis are brought up once again.

    Pia Iger: I look forward to new wiki setup.
    Pema Pera: yes, it should be fun with all of us able to contribute
    Pema Pera: so much energy here — then it doesn’t have to be all funneled through me :-)
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Pia Iger: overwhelming for one person.
    Pia Iger: I can say I read most blog entries
    Pia Iger: so many gems inside
    Pia Iger: I like to have a list of links mentioned.
    Pia Iger: like mindfulness bell, zen stories, etc
    Faenik loves wells!
    Fael Illyar: I do tend to read them all, although might be becoming a once a week thing :)
    Pema Pera: wow!
    Pema Pera: once a week 28 entries?
    Pia Iger: I can’t do that, a lot of reading.
    Fael Illyar: Well, I tend to spread it all over the day, maybe two :P
    Pema Pera: ah, I see
    Pema Pera: like walking in a drizzle :)
    Pema Pera: unfortunately, I have to go
    Pema Pera: before Moon returns
    Pema Pera: This time is my turn to be a type of “guardian” in our astronomy organization
    Pia Iger: double duties.
    Pema Pera: we call them “barristas” for our coffee time there
    Pema Pera: yeah.
    Pia Iger: bye, Barrista
    Fael Illyar: Ok, see you Barrista :)
    Pema Pera: haha

    Pema is leaving, Moon returns.

    Pema Pera: you’re all welcoem to drop by any time at the astro meetings if you like
    Pema Pera: every morning, 7:30 to 8:00 am SLT
    Moon Fargis: ah here i am again
    Fael Illyar: wb Moon :)
    Pema Pera: at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Spaceport%20Bravo/153/205/59
    Pema Pera: hello and goodbye Moon!
    Moon Fargis: oh already want to go?
    Moon Fargis purrzzzzzzzzz
    Pia Iger: cushion is right size for you now, Moon
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Moon Fargis: yes
    Moon Fargis purrzzzzzzzzz
    Red Japanese Poof: Script trying to stop animations but PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION permission not set
    Fael Illyar: there, made it smaller :)
    Moon Fargis: :)
    Moon Fargis: ok i will go back to hikari ..still alot of stuff todo
    Moon Fargis: bye bye everyone

    Moon leaves.

    Pia Iger: Fael, I have little experience outside PaB group.
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Fael Illyar: yes?
    Pia Iger: most ppl here has been freindly
    Pia Iger: not knowing ppl outside
    Pia Iger: can be very various
    Fael Illyar: you can find all kinds of people in SL
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Pia Iger: ppl come here often are special, somehow
    Fael Illyar: Yes, I’ve noticed.
    Pia Iger: do you have new finds from meditation?
    Pia Iger: maybe it is late now.
    Fael Illyar: At least, none that I can remember.
    Pia Iger: ok. I am coming for 1pm.
    Pia Iger: maybe see you then.
    Pia Iger: bye for now.
    Fael Illyar: Ok, see you Pia :)

    This meeting concluded here.

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