2008.09.02 01:00 - Tackling From Many Angles

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    That morning, at 1 am, I (Pema) arrived at an empty pavilion. After about ten minutes Corvuscorva stopped by.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hello, Pema.
    Pema Pera: Hi Corva!
    Pema Pera: How’s life?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmmm. You know the chinese…umm…wish? “May you live in interesting times?”
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Yes.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: not tooo interesting though.
    Pema Pera: (my connection is very slow, I may be missing some lines; didn’t even see my own last line)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ok.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: How about yours? Interesting or pleasantly dull?
    Pema Pera: I’m in a small coffeeshop in Tokyo, between some highrises and my internet signal here is rather weak — I just hope I can hang in here
    Pema Pera: oh, my life is never dull!
    Pema Pera: and generally interesting and mostly fun :)
    Pema Pera: yes, did it come true for you?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I imagine it is all of that.
    Pema Pera: ah, finally my earlier line showed up, three minutes later — oh, well

    I felt rather disoriented, as if hanging upside down in the waves of a surf. Some sentences that I typed unly appeared on my screen minutes later, many out of order, and some lines just never made it.

    Pema Pera: is there any particular topic you’d like to talk about?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmm.
    Pema Pera: :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I cannot think of anything at all.
    Pema Pera: that’s fine, of course!
    Pema Pera: I’m glad you keep coming back here to the group
    Pema Pera: I enjoy the mix of different perspectives
    Pema Pera: like, you prefer to approach things more from a scientific angle, did I get that right?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire shrugs. I started to answer that question with a yes…but honestly, I don’t know if I am really that rigid. I tend to tackle every idea like a new problem and come at it from many angles.
    Pema Pera: oh, science doesn’t have to be rigid at all. I myself like the science angle — I just tend to define it wider than most of my colleagues
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: It is a lovely framework for tackling ideas.
    Pema Pera: Many people, scientists included, think of science as objective and preferably quantitative and mathematical — and while I love that aspect when and where it is appropriate, it is just one approach
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: for me the key of science is the openness to new and crazy ideas, couple to a very critical evaluation of all ideas
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Objective? pffft.
    Pema Pera: liberal and conservative both
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: attempt at objectivity.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Pema Pera: pffft?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: a dismissive noise…I got the typed “sound” from the Neko community in SL…
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: sort of like an angry cat?
    Pema Pera: oh, yes, I understood the dismissiveness, and I too see many limitations to objectivity, I was just curious about your view
    Pema Pera: (friendly cat)
    Pema Pera: (my last four lines did not show up on my screen; don’t know whether they were sent)
    Pema Pera: =^+^=
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Science attempts to move from subjective experience to objectivity…but often reaches communal subjectivity instead.
    Pema Pera: =^+^=
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: exactly.
    Pema Pera: =^+^=
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: got it….
    Pema Pera: (but you sometimes answer to my invisible lines, so at least some of them seem to be transmitted)

    This was really odd: some of the lines that Corvuscorva spoke above indicated that she had seen at least some of the lines that I had written and that never boomeranged back into my own window. It would remain a groping-in-the-dark conversation.

    Pema Pera: yes, I agree, it is all intersubjectivity
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and we misunderstand the results, assuming that since we all agree it is objectivelly true.
    Pema Pera: neither objectivity nor subjectivity per se
    Pema Pera: (some lines don’t get echoed, some lines appear out of order minutes later; like my cat pictograms)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I hate that…it’s a result of a bad wireless connection, I think.
    Pema Pera: yes, the moral of the story is: a certain Doutor coffeeshop near the entrance to the Jimbocho subway station in Tokyo is NOT the right place to use the e-mobile system to connect to SL :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.
    Pema Pera: sorry about that!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: don’t worry…we will just assume you are scattered, but present.

    That was one way of putting it! :>)

    Pema Pera: so I guess I’d better exit, and I hope to see you later at a time of better internet connection :-)
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: see ya!
    Pema Pera: see ya, be well!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: take care.

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