2008.09.14 19:00 - Threads

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    Rowan Masala was the guardian.  Adelene's pop gun contributed to the conversation occasionally as well.


    doug Sosa: hi adelene


    Adelene Dawner: hi :)


    doug Sosa: hi.


    Rowan Masala: oh! are there people here?


    Threedee Shepherd: hi


    Rowan Masala: I can't see anyone


    Rowan Masala: did I sit on someone?


    Adelene Dawner: You're ok, Rowan.


    Rowan Masala: ah, I see you now, Adelene


    Rowan Masala: and Doug


    Rowan Masala: and Adams


    doug Sosa: another beautiful dress.


    Adams Rubble: Hello Doug, Adelene, Rowan, and Threedee :)


    Adams Rubble: ty Doug


    Adelene Dawner: ^.^ Hi, all.


    Rowan Masala: Hello 3D


    Adams Rubble: Adelene, I wanted you to know you helped me last night


    Adelene Dawner: oh?


    Adams Rubble: It wasn't quite the way you were seeing it


    Threedee Shepherd: Rowan, you are still only a pre-rez cloud on my screen


    Adams Rubble: but you helped me begin to see my actions


    Rowan Masala: hello, Pia


    Adams Rubble: In my case from last week. It was very revealing :)


    Adams Rubble: Hello Pia :)


    Adelene Dawner: Good ^.^


    Rowan Masala: yes, 3D, I didn't even know there were others here when I first came


    Adelene Dawner: I had an interesting followup, though.


    Rowan Masala: taking forever to rezz tonight


    Threedee Shepherd: hi pia


    Pia Iger: Hi, friends:-)


    Rowan Masala: Adams, can you give us some background on what you and Adelene are discussing?


    Adelene Dawner: I got to work today and discovered that I'd accidentally left the sink running all night from when I left something in it to soak - came about that close to flooding the bathroom. Oops.


    Adelene Dawner: Oh...


    Adelene Dawner: I spent yesterday 'running on autopilot' to see what'd happen if I did so - just letting whatever thoughts sufaced, surface, and not acting on them, just letting whatever actions happened happen instead.


    Rowan Masala nods


    Adams Rubble: and I have been watching my thoughts but never considered watching my actions


    Threedee Shepherd: so the sink-overflow protector hole functioned?


    Adams Rubble: when I looked back over last week, I was able to see weaknesses in a new detached light


    Adelene Dawner: I don't think that sink has one. One of my co-workers found it when the water was about an inch or two from the top.


    Threedee Shepherd: oooops


    Adelene Dawner: Indeed.


    Adams Rubble: whew!


    Rowan Masala: someone was watching over you, then


    Threedee Shepherd: POOR sink design


    Adelene Dawner: Something like that, anyway.


    Rowan Masala: Adams, what was different about the way you saw weakness?


    Adams Rubble: Rowan, I saw the weaknesses were in my "self". I see that I can change them or avoid situations where they are evident


    Rowan Masala nods


    Rowan Masala: and what helped with that observation?


    Adams Rubble: Adelene put the idea into my head to watch actions


    Rowan Masala: ahh


    Rowan Masala: hello Neela


    Adams Rubble: Hello Neela :)


    Pia Iger: there are two threads going on here. one from Adams, one from Adelene. want to follow up on both.


    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Adams and Rowan


    Pia Iger: Hi, Neela


    Neela Blaisdale: And Adelene


    Neela Blaisdale: There's Pia and Threedee too


    doug Sosa: hi.


    Rowan Masala smiles


    Threedee Shepherd: hi


    Rowan Masala: yes, a big group of guardians tonight


    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Doug


    Rowan Masala: Pia, you were saying you wanted to follow up on both...


    Pia Iger: let's focus on Adams first. She usually leave early.


    Adams Rubble: :)


    Adams Rubble gets tired at night


    Rowan Masala nods, smiling


    Pia Iger: but sounds like a big realization, Adams? of your actions.


    Adams Rubble: Hello Mongo


    Rowan Masala: Hello Mongo


    Mongo McGinnis: hi


    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Mongo


    Rowan Masala: Mongo, I don't think we've met


    Adams Rubble: Yes, it something new to observe


    Rowan Masala: Are you new to this group?


    doug Sosa: :)


    Pia Iger: Mongo been here.


    Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Use Mouselook (press 'M') to shoot me.


    Popgun (drag onto yourself) whispers: Choose 'Detach' from my menu to take me off.


    Rowan Masala: k


    Mongo McGinnis: have been to zen retreat bu not here on reg basis


    Rowan Masala: There are the chimes


    Rowan Masala: could we pause for 9 seconds, please?


    Popgun (drag onto yourself): Could not find animation ''.


    Rowan Masala: thank you


    Neela Blaisdale: Hi pema


    Rowan Masala: oh, welcome Pema


    Pema Pera waiting for 9 seconds to say "hello" :)


    Threedee Shepherd: hi pema


    Adelene Dawner: 'lo Pema


    Rowan Masala smiles


    Adams Rubble: Hello Pema :)


    Pia Iger waves.


    doug Sosa: :)


    Mongo McGinnis: lost a couple of people interested in zen tonight


    Pema Pera: good seeing y'all!


    Rowan Masala: lost a couple of people?


    Pema Pera: didn't mean to interrupt you, Rowan, with the 9-sec !


    Rowan Masala: glad you're here, Pema


    Rowan Masala: what do you mean, lost them, Mongo?


    Mongo McGinnis: talking to people over at hakarie


    Mongo McGinnis: interested in buddhism


    Pia Iger: seems we have difficulty of many people, several threads going on.


    Rowan Masala: I think we can let it flow for a a bit, Pia, and see what happens :)


    Mongo McGinnis: said to listen read and explore but do what they feel is right and goof for themselvles is the most important part


    Mongo McGinnis: good not goof


    Rowan Masala: perhaps one and the same


    Mongo McGinnis: i tend to turn more people away that towards by saying do what they feel and think is right


    Rowan Masala: I don't think that's you turning them away, Mongo


    Rowan Masala: maybe that's a concept they need to grow comfortable with for a bit


    Mongo McGinnis: i just usually get back negative not positive


    Rowan Masala: so, we were talking about self-observation, specifically Adelene's suggestion to Adams that she observe actions as well as thoughts


    Rowan Masala: Adelene, is that something you also do?


    Mongo McGinnis: sounds great


    Adams Rubble: Goodnight all. It was good to see you :)


    Neela Blaisdale: Night Adams


    Rowan Masala: ah, goodnight, Adams


    Adelene Dawner: Yes, I always observe my actions.


    Threedee Shepherd: nite adams


    Mongo McGinnis: any good readings on karma


    Neela Blaisdale: How did the topic of self observation come up


    Mongo McGinnis: need to learn more


    Adelene Dawner is having a lot of trouble following the conversation at the moment, sorry...


    Mongo McGinnis: please fill us in soory for interferring


    Rowan Masala: Oh, no. My fault for letting things run amok. Perhaps Pia can help us pull the threads together


    Adelene Dawner: But self-observation came up at yesterday's meeting; I brought it up because I'd (rather randomly) wound up doing the experiment that I mentioned earlier of running on autopilot for a day and observing what actions happened if I disengaged my thoughts from my actions.


    Rowan Masala nods


    Pia Iger: yes, I am interested to know how the experiment went?


    Adelene Dawner: It was interesting. I wound up doing a lot more things than I thought I would - I'd expected to be purely reacting to my surroundings but I wound up having a fairly normal day, actually.


    Rowan Masala: and what did that tell you about your actions?


    Adelene Dawner shrugs.


    Adelene Dawner: There's more going on there than I thought - there are other triggers besides thoughts and my physical environment, I think. But I'm not sure.


    Mongo McGinnis: i put myself out there alot and get negative results


    Mongo McGinnis: and interesting concepts


    Neela Blaisdale: Triggers for what Adelene?


    Rowan Masala: 9 seconds, please...


    Rowan Masala: thank you


    Mongo McGinnis: breathe in and out wait


    Mongo McGinnis: clear th mind


    Adelene Dawner: Triggers for actions. Reasons for doing to happen.


    Rowan Masala nods


    Rowan Masala: how do you all trigger the 9 seconds for yourselves? and were you able to include those in your experiment, Adelene?


    Adelene Dawner: (for that meaning of 'doing', which as Pema has mentioned is different from 'doing vs. not-doing')


    Mongo McGinnis: wu wei?


    Adelene Dawner: I actually don't do the nine-second meditations... my thoughts tend to run a bit too slowly for 9 seconds to be relevant to anything. I do get a few hours' worth of contemplation worked into most days, though.


    Rowan Masala nods


    Rowan Masala: Mongo, tell us about putting yourself out there


    Mongo McGinnis: i tend to tal to poeple and express my views and ask them about theirs


    Mongo McGinnis: they tend to exxpress themselves both positively and negatively


    Mongo McGinnis: but interested on wht they think and say


    Mongo McGinnis: i have been beaten down a few times


    Mongo McGinnis: beccause of this


    Mongo McGinnis: but it is all good


    Pia Iger: interesting, I just heard in RL on Thur, someone did one day the exactly the same as Adelene, just do whatever comes naturally, she also said she accomplished a lot that day


    Adelene Dawner: I didn't, especially, but I don't particularly value that, so...


    Mongo McGinnis: ??? what do you mean


    Neela Blaisdale: Goodnight all, have a good day tomorrow


    Rowan Masala: Goodnight, Neela


    Adelene Dawner: 'night, Neela


    Mongo McGinnis: be well blessed be


    Pema Pera: bye Neela!


    Threedee Shepherd: 'nite


    Neela Blaisdale: Bye


    Mongo McGinnis: namaste


    Pia Iger: bye, Neela.


    Pia Iger: Adelene, I was responded to what you said "I wound up doing a lot more things than I thought I would"


    Adelene Dawner: Yes, more than I thought I would... but not more than I usualy would.


    Mongo McGinnis: i tend not to talk about hings like this because i loose people and it sounds bad


    Pia Iger: ok, it's clearer, Adelene.


    Pema Pera: I'm sorry, but I'll have to leave now too. -- just wanted to drop bye before going out to brunch


    Adelene Dawner: We're a pretty friendly/accepting/open-minded group, Mongo. I don't think you're going to upset anybody.


    Pia Iger: bye, Pema.


    Adelene Dawner: 'night, Pema.


    Pema Pera: good seeing you all here!


    Rowan Masala: be well, Pema


    Mongo McGinnis: i usually do sorry


    Rowan Masala: hello Tara


    Mongo McGinnis: be well


    Tara Farmer: BONJOUR


    Tara's translator: BONJOUR


    Adelene Dawner: No worries, Mongo.


    Pia Iger: don't worry, Mongo,


    Mongo McGinnis: hi ara anything on your mind


    Tara Farmer: me?


    Mongo McGinnis: anyone


    Mongo McGinnis: why not you tara


    Rowan Masala: I'm so sorry--could I ask someone else to keep the log for the remainder of the discussion? I'm not feeling well at all...


    Tara Farmer: i see....well its my first night in my new home in france


    Mongo McGinnis: nice how does it feel


    Tara Farmer: and i didn't sleep at all


    Pia Iger: ok, if there is anything more. Rowan. I will leave soon too.


    Tara Farmer: lol


    Rowan Masala: thank you Pia


    Rowan Masala: goodnight all


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