2008.09.25 01:00 - Tasting APAPB

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    I, Pema, arrived at 1 am at a quiet pavillion, but after a few minutes Gaya arrived, with Faenik on her shoulder. We would talk for about twenty minutes.

    Pema Pera: Hi Gaya!
    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
    Pema Pera: And hi Faenik!
    Faenik: ^^
    Pema Pera: Is there anything you'd like to talk about, concerning PaB, or any other topic, Gaya?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps you could tell us a bit more about APAPB?
    Pema Pera: what aspect would you like to talk or hear about?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Presentation is something that I don't quite get Pema
    Faenik: なるほど^^
    Pema Pera: The sentence is meant as an open invitation, and indeed, I have not defined or specified each word in the sentence very well.
    Pema Pera: The best way to use the sentence, I think, is to taste it, to repeat it quietly a number of times, for example during the 9-sec intervals, and if you like, more frequently or at other times.
    Pema Pera: Chances are that the sentence will begin to make more sense, over time. Perhaps the sentence will talk to you, so to speak, in some way :-)
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles. ah ok
    Pema Pera: but that is just in general
    Pema Pera: I'm happy to talk about each element, as much as you are interested :>)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Please
    Pema Pera: So as for presenting, we can start with the fact that there is appearance
    Pema Pera: something appears, we don't know what it is, where it comes from, etc, we only know that appearance appears
    Pema Pera: Stating it that way is the negative form: anything more than saying "appearance" is speculation, to some extent -- and leaving out speculation means stripping off any element besides appearance; a negative approach (and a very useful one!)
    Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.
    Pema Pera: The positive approach is here to say "appearance can be seen as a presentation by Being"
    Pema Pera: even though we don't know anything about what appears, at least we can consider the possibility that Being presents it
    Gaya Ethaniel listens
    Pema Pera: This is not a belief, not a dogma, just a possibility, a hypothesis if you like
    Pema Pera: Christians can look around and consider the world as created by God
    Pema Pera: Buddhists can look around and consider everything as freely arising out of emptiness
    Pema Pera: Taoists see the working of the Tao
    Pema Pera: And here in PaB we only have Being to work with, so it is naturally to consider how every appearance may be presented by Being
    Pema Pera: Does that make some sense?
    Gaya Ethaniel: I will have to re-read and ponder little later Pema. Something will click at some point. Concepts/exercises like APAPB is somewhat difficult for me to understand as I 'just do'

    Indeed: these notions take time to settle in. It's not a matter of rational explanations, but rather a kind of familiarizing oneself with a different way of viewing reality. More accurately, a different way of letting reality present itself.

    Pema Pera: I think this sentence will work best by lettting it melt on your tongue, so to speak
    Pema Pera: starting from the end, without too much analysis
    Pema Pera: Being, what can that be? Consider the notion of Being, that is the last word
    Pema Pera: then "taste" what it would be like for Being to Present something
    Faenik: ah :)
    Pema Pera: What Being presents is in fact not apperance directly -- but more specifically, the presence of appearance
    Pema Pera: appearance itself is utterly unsubstantial so perhaps the only thing you can say about it is that it is present
    Pema Pera: now if you appreciate all that, you have the whole sentence, regaining it from the end till the beginning
    Pema Pera: Yes, Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation by Being
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... ok Pema
    Pema Pera: Like in a movie theatre, appreciate the presence of the images in front of you as a presentation by the light projector
    Pema Pera: the story is there, and yet you can also choose to appreciate it all as sculptures of light
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Gaya Ethaniel: I will ponder more on it Pema. Thank you. Perhaps enough to go on for a few days <smile>
    Faenik: why not?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good evening then
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: Nice meeting you again, Gaya -- and Faenik!
    Pema Pera: Be well, and see you soon
    Faenik: waves at Pema
    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
    /me waves back
    Pema Pera: (can't combine green and /me)
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles

    Since Faenik always speaks in green, I used a macro to respond in green, but then "/me" did not get replaced by "Pema Pera." Can't have it all, I guess :)
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