2009.04.24 07:00 - What's in a name?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was quen Oh. The comments are by quen Oh.

    Adams was the second to arrive:

    Adams Rubble: Hello Quen :)
    quen Oh: hi Adams!
    quen Oh: how are you>?
    Adams Rubble: I am good. How are you :)
    quen Oh: fine too
    Adams Rubble: :)
    quen Oh: I was reading old PaB logs
    Adams Rubble: Are the tulips still in Bloom? Oh how nice :)
    Adams Rubble: There are many logs to read :)
    quen Oh: they are, though the height of bloom is over now
    quen Oh: liked the link to the YouTube clip of Britain's got talent
    Adams Rubble: :)
    quen Oh: so I started to look at that, very nice to see what people can do!
    Adams Rubble: The squirrels snipped off all our tulips
    quen Oh: oh dear! hehe I like squirrels
    quen Oh: you have tulips!
    quen Oh: wow
    Adams Rubble: Unfortunately we have more squirrels than tulips
    Adams Rubble: especially now
    Adams Rubble: no tulips left
    quen Oh: yes I noticed when I visited US, for me that was nice to see, you rarely see them here
    Adams Rubble: just daffadils
    quen Oh: sorry for your tulips
    Adams Rubble: I haven;t keeping up with the logs lately
    quen Oh: me neither, it is so much
    quen Oh: same goes for all the email
    Adams Rubble: yes. If one has other things to do.... :)
    Adams Rubble: oh email, yes
    quen Oh: I love the possibilities of the internet, though it makes you realise how much interesting things there are to know and get to know
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: and how much we don't know :)
    quen Oh: and how much all the information keeps growing everyday
    quen Oh: definitely!
    Adams Rubble: yesssssss
    Adams Rubble: I sometimes wonder what will happen if something happens to electricity and someone pulls the plug
    quen Oh: huge growing landscape of information
    quen Oh: we are totally dependent on internet and computers now indeed
    quen Oh: found that out the hard way when pc crashed over a week ago
    Adams Rubble: ohhhh
    quen Oh: everything is fine now
    quen Oh: hi gen!
    Adams Rubble: I am reminded when the internet conection doesn't work
    Gen joined us. And immediately after her Sophia dropped by too. Was clearly not very awake and wondering about her name.
    Adams Rubble: Hello Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Quen and Adams!
    Adams Rubble: Glad to hear everything is OK now :)
    Adams Rubble: whoops...missed the stop
    quen Oh: hey Sophia!
    Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
    quen Oh: no problem, have that too very often
    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Sophia
    sophia Placebo: hi quen
    sophia Placebo: hi genesis
    quen Oh: we are not machines like clockworks
    sophia Placebo: hi adams:)
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    quen Oh: sophia are you the same sophia as in the other ava? (have not kept up in logs am behind)
    sophia Placebo: i have only one ava quen
    Adams Rubble: There is another Sophia in PaB
    quen Oh: ah ok, good to know
    quen Oh: I like the name Sophia Placebo!
    sophia Placebo: one acount that is
    sophia Placebo: thank you :)
    quen Oh: like loving knowledge is a placebo
    Adams Rubble: :)
    quen Oh: to cure what.. ;-)
    sophia Placebo: well , it is kinda
    sophia Placebo: to cure arrogance
    quen Oh: yes, we were already talking about how the presence of the internet makes you realise how less we know
    genesis Zhangsun: in a way that is what Play as Being is a sort of wisdom placebo
    quen Oh: to cure what? ;-)
    Constance arrived, being a new face for me. And we continued about names.
    Adams Rubble: Hello Constance :)
    quen Oh: hi Constance, nice t omeet you!
    sophia Placebo: hi constance
    quen Oh: have you visited us before?
    genesis Zhangsun: Hi Constance
    sophia Placebo: quen : knowladge is a placebo to cure arrogance
    Constance Fairport: hi genesis
    genesis Zhangsun: a wisdom placebo that eventually becomes the real thing :)
    Constance Fairport: a wisdom placebo?
    quen Oh: yes, was wondering if wisdom is a placebo too ;-)
    Constance Fairport: a placebo for what?
    genesis Zhangsun: we were just playing with sophia placebo's name
    Constance Fairport: oh!
    genesis Zhangsun: sophia as far as I know means "wisdom"
    quen Oh: btw we started with loving knowledge as a placebo
    genesis Zhangsun: or "wise"
    Constance Fairport: yes
    quen Oh: loving wisdom seems a good idea
    Adams Rubble: Wow. Constance you have had a busy month :)
    quen Oh: it means to love in fat
    quen Oh: sorry not true
    quen Oh: slapping my head
    Constance Fairport: really? in what sense?
    quen Oh: philo means to love
    quen Oh: switching that
    sophia Placebo: though i feel like when poeple knew one info the start to become arrogant , many infos they start to be mislead and confused and arrogant , vast knowladge or simple admitting that they cant know everything then they become modestly knowlagable
    genesis Zhangsun: right philosoph is love of wisdom
    quen Oh: 1000 excuses
    Constance Fairport: yes
    Adams Rubble: :) Sophia
    genesis Zhangsun: np :)
    quen Oh: very plausible sophia
    Constance Fairport: how would one play with adams rubble?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    quen Oh: playful/
    quen Oh: ?
    genesis Zhangsun: yes what is the origin behind your name Adams?
    quen Oh: what is a rubble of adam
    Constance Fairport: the rubble of adam, the first man?
    sophia Placebo: phone brb
    Adams Rubble: The Rubble comes from a cartoon series "The Flinstones" There was a character named Barney Rubble
    Constance Fairport: oh!
    Constance Fairport: lol
    quen Oh: :-) !!
    genesis Zhangsun: hehe!
    genesis Zhangsun: never would have guessed
    Adams Rubble: Rubble sort of sums up my mind before PaB too :)
    Constance Fairport: good choice of a second name (too bad sl doesn't give you complete freedom in choosing it)
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    Constance Fairport: PaB ?
    Adams Rubble: Play as Being
    quen Oh: Main Entry: 1rub·ble Listen to the pronunciation of 1rubble Pronunciation: \ˈrə-bəl\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English robyl Date: 14th century 1 a: broken fragments (as of rock) resulting from the decay or destruction of a building <fortifications> b: a miscellaneous confused mass or group of usually broken or worthless things2: waterworn or rough broken stones or bricks used in coarse masonry or in filling courses of walls3: rough stone as it comes from the quarry
    Constance Fairport: ah!
    genesis Zhangsun: I always connected it to your approach which always seemed to be deconstructionist oriented
    Constance Fairport: i live and learn
    Constance Fairport: lol
    genesis Zhangsun: (with the many selves etc)
    genesis Zhangsun: I also imaged that your name perhaps in RL was Adams and that this was the deconstructin of Adams
    Constance Fairport: i suppose sl is like rubble
    Adams Rubble: yes Gen. That has been my methodology
    Constance Fairport: hehe
    Adams Rubble: I did not give more than about 4 seconds thought to my SL name :)
    genesis Zhangsun: funny isn't it and yet so apt
    Constance Fairport: do we all get ujp, run around the ring, and sit down again?
    Adams Rubble: some people do that somethies C0nstance
    Adams Rubble: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: for me there was a sort self deprecating kind of humor about rubble that I found very charming
    Constance Fairport: the 15 minute warning..
    quen Oh remembers some hilarious running around here
    Adams Rubble: TRhat is just a pause Constance
    Adams Rubble: It keeps me honest Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: thats admirable Adams
    Constance Fairport: yes
    quen Oh: so what is behind genesis Zhangsun?
    genesis Zhangsun: hehe
    genesis Zhangsun: not a whole lot
    quen Oh: adam and genesis, funny
    genesis Zhangsun: around the time I got into SL I was reading a kind of "religious" thriller
    Adams Rubble: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: the whole Middle east crisis was resolved through an interpretation of the old testament
    Constance Fairport: that's become a genre
    genesis Zhangsun: or something outlandish of this sort
    genesis Zhangsun: and also small detail it was first time I heard SL mentioned
    Constance Fairport: you see a dozen books out on this theme these days
    genesis Zhangsun: in a book
    quen Oh: ah these books are in fashion since the da Vinci code
    genesis Zhangsun: the crisis was resolved through SL
    quen Oh: really???
    quen Oh: interesting
    genesis Zhangsun: so the connection between SL, the old testament led to genesis
    Constance Fairport: what a cute idea
    Adams Rubble: neat!
    sophia Placebo: intresting
    quen Oh: for religious thrillers I like Jonathan Rabb, but not as famous
    sophia Placebo: what about the last name zhangsun?
    genesis Zhangsun: you know there was again very little thought given to the whole thing it was the first name which represented the "east" for me
    Constance Fairport: there's a sci fi novel called Halting State where a mystery is resolved in an online system like sl
    genesis Zhangsun: and I wanted it to balance the "western" genesis reference
    quen Oh: ah nice
    Adams Rubble: :)
    sophia Placebo: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    Constance Fairport: bad guys set of a game in this reality that really trains people to hack into banks
    Constance Fairport: set up*
    Adams Rubble: sounds like the economy during the last 8 years :)
    Constance Fairport: yeah
    quen Oh: ;-) the Lindens bank
    genesis Zhangsun: lol
    Constance Fairport: people solve puzzles in this reality that are actually based on banks' security systems
    sophia Placebo: sounds funny novel quen
    genesis Zhangsun: except those guys Adams didn't need to train in SL they've being doing for years in RL
    sophia Placebo: sorru constance
    Constance Fairport: yes --- but this enlists thousands of unsuspecting dupes
    quen Oh: I think the crisis is that someone from the inside out hacked into the banks and made more of their virtual capital
    Adams Rubble: oh yes, they didn't know wha SL is
    Constance Fairport: sorry?
    sophia Placebo: sounds like funny novel :)
    Constance Fairport: it's sort of interesting
    genesis Zhangsun: someone should write a thriller where a crisis gets resolved through PaB :)
    sophia Placebo: i say adam instead of constance :)
    genesis Zhangsun: hehe!
    quen Oh: seems lot of bank people createrd and sold this huge virtual money bubble.. and now we have a problem
    Constance Fairport: get dark fast here
    quen Oh: that would be a personal crisis then, no?
    Constance Fairport: yes and the dollar may be worth a linden
    Constance Fairport: i'm being paged to attend something in the nasa education center
    Adams Rubble: We ma all be writing that novel Gen :)
    Constance Fairport: great meeting you guys! see you later
    Adams Rubble: bye Constance
    quen Oh: bye
    sophia Placebo: bye constance
    genesis Zhangsun: good point Adams :D
    genesis Zhangsun: bye constance
    quen Oh: only I miss the thriller part...
    genesis Zhangsun: what could be more exciting Quen then getting to the bottom of our existnce Quen :D
    sophia Placebo: what about your name quen oh?
    Adams Rubble: My adventures in PaB have been a thriller for me :)
    Adams Rubble: Will I find the answer to Being before becoming a raving lunatic?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: stay tuned....
    genesis Zhangsun: hehe
    sophia Placebo: :) i think since you are wandering about it then you are resisting it or going for it
    quen Oh: perhaps we should make up something extremely exciting to add to the PaB thriller?
    Adams Rubble: or both Sophia :)
    quen Oh: or is something scary already happening but we don't know it..... woooah
    sophia Placebo: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: well friends I must be going on
    Adams Rubble: Maybe there is something lurking in the fountain?
    Adams Rubble: bye Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    quen Oh: are you getting to the bottom of your existence gen?
    sophia Placebo: bye genesis
    quen Oh: bye Gen!
    genesis Zhangsun: :) no Quen just playing as getting to the bottom :)
    quen Oh: maybe Nessie is here in our fountain and she became virtual (or always has been)
    genesis Zhangsun: bye everyone
    quen Oh: ;-) bye Gen
    Gen left. And it is still beware of the monster...
    Adams Rubble waves bye
    Adams Rubble: Or maybe there is an entrance at the bottom of the fountain once one gets past Nessie
    Adams Rubble: or exit
    sophia Placebo: who is nessie?
    quen Oh: Loch Ness, the monster...
    Adams Rubble: The mnster in Loch ness in Scotland
    quen Oh: (drum sounds in background)
    sophia Placebo: oh i know it
    quen Oh: living in the lake
    sophia Placebo: what if we are being in experment without knowing
    quen Oh: well we are in an experiment, only we do know
    sophia Placebo: no what if Loch Ness in the fountine is making the rules for new experiment we are not aware of
    quen Oh: hehe than we simply don't play by the rules?
    quen Oh: that seems the best solution
    sophia Placebo: you dont know it was his rules
    Adams Rubble: Looks OK :)
    sophia Placebo: lol
    quen Oh: well rules you don't know of either they are nature laws or they are thought up but we cannot become aware of them as nobody explained them to us?
    quen Oh: lol Adam, count your toes...
    Adams Rubble: one, two three.
    sophia Placebo: yes quen
    As Gilles in IM asked me what was todays PaB about and I answered 'monsters', he gave us a visit, while the party was breaking up, being a nice red scary Raptor.
    <fortifications> Adams Rubble: Hello Gilles
    sophia Placebo: greeting gilles
    quen Oh: hi Gilles
    Adams Rubble: I am afraid I must go. bye everyone :)
    quen Oh: bye Adams
    sophia Placebo: bye adams
    Adams Rubble: Take care everyone :)
    quen Oh: yes we might have one in the fountain
    sophia Placebo: lol
    quen Oh: if you want take a swim ;-)
    sophia Placebo: got to leave too , nice to meet you quen
    quen Oh: likewise sophia! bye!
    sophia Placebo: nice to meet you gilles
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