2009.04.27 07:00 - Be Where You Are

Two lovely guardians joined me today  ... - KalCal

Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Cal
Kallie Kira: lol! hi Corvi!
Corvuscorva Nightfire snickers.
Kallie Kira: I didn't realize you were here, sorry ... mucking about with my inventory
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins..i noticed...i like the outfit.
Kallie Kira: trying to make sure I have some undergarments on before I change shirts
Corvuscorva Nightfire nodsnods!!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: very important.

Kallie Kira: I am Cal's sister :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah!!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: very nice to meet you!
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
Kallie Kira: yes, nice to meet you :)
Kallie Kira: again :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hehe
Kallie Kira: how's things going for you?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: very well. How are you doing?
Kallie Kira: good :) had a laid back weekend
Corvuscorva Nightfire: me too
Kallie Kira: it looks like the system message for the bell has changed? it says "thank you" when the period is done? geez, I'm confused
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...i guess so.
Kallie Kira: have you been doing pab practice?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: not this week..but some over the weekend.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i do it off and on.
Kallie Kira: how has it changed for you since you started? or has it changed?

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Kallie Kira: hi Gen :)
genesis Zhangsun: Hi Kalle, do we know one another?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Gen!
genesis Zhangsun: Hi Corvi!
Kallie Kira: yes, I'm Kal, Cal's sister :)
Kallie Kira: we met at a party I think :)
genesis Zhangsun: thought so :)
genesis Zhangsun: I must have had one too many drinks :)
Kallie Kira: he he

Kallie Kira: how are things today Gen?
genesis Zhangsun: okay thanks for asking recovering from moving last weekend
genesis Zhangsun: still putting away boxes etc
Kallie Kira: how's the new place?
genesis Zhangsun: really great
genesis Zhangsun: much bigger more space, much less irritated with my husband ;)
Kallie Kira: LOL
Kallie Kira: all good things
Kallie Kira: amazing what a little elbow room can do
genesis Zhangsun: no kidding!
genesis Zhangsun: how are you?
Kallie Kira: I'm good .... thinking about going outside after this and doing a rain dance ... the clouds are there, it's way humid.... it just needs a little push :)
genesis Zhangsun: nice :) go for it
genesis Zhangsun: I assume you like rain?
Kallie Kira: free water from the sky ... you know that whisky's for drinking and water's for fighting right? :)
genesis Zhangsun: right forgot where you are located lol :)
Kallie Kira: I live on an escarpment... water is very important :)
genesis Zhangsun: yes okay I hear you we have had a very dry year too here this year
Corvuscorva Nightfire: wet as could be, here.
Kallie Kira: meh, climate change

Kallie Kira: we were talking about how our 9sec practice has changed over time Gen
genesis Zhangsun: ah yes?
Kallie Kira: has it changed for you since you started?
genesis Zhangsun: definitely, I was really committed to it in the beginning and I noticed all sorts of interesting changes
genesis Zhangsun: then got to a point where I didn't even need a bell, I was doing regular stopping
genesis Zhangsun: then got completely burnt out
genesis Zhangsun: stopped
genesis Zhangsun: just started picking it up again recently
genesis Zhangsun: I realized how important it is to my sanity :)
genesis Zhangsun: more than a longer sitting meditation
genesis Zhangsun: which is what I have been doing since stopping 9 seconds
Kallie Kira: yeah, interesting how important having an "un-perspective" can become :)

Kallie Kira: so when you stopped 9sec you did long meditations? now you do both?
genesis Zhangsun: I am doing both but this has just been one week
genesis Zhangsun: I might drop a daily sitting practice just to see what happens
genesis Zhangsun: I feel like I have more of a problem with the rest of my day the 30 minute sitting is great
genesis Zhangsun: but not sure what the benefit is without the integration of it throughout the rest of your day
genesis Zhangsun: I am sure someone who does a regular sitting practice would say that they try to take their sitting practice with them
genesis Zhangsun: but I think this is very challenging in a modern day context
genesis Zhangsun: there is just so much stimuli
Kallie Kira: I can see that
Kallie Kira: it may evolve that a sitting practice morphs to be doing just one thing at a time :)
Kallie Kira: for example, only being here with you two, not doing IM, or email, or tweet or , or , or ,
genesis Zhangsun: yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: /em nods.
Kallie Kira: I thought I would start carrying a beach ball and when someone is not really being with me I would throw it and bonk them on the head with it .... in a totally loving way of course :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hahah
Corvuscorva Nightfire: good plan!
genesis Zhangsun: you might have to do a whole lot of bonking :)
Kallie Kira: lol, yes

genesis Zhangsun: there are all sorts of ways people are not present
genesis Zhangsun: I find that interesting
genesis Zhangsun: they may be there, at least at a minimum refraining from multi tasking etc
genesis Zhangsun: but then you notice that they are talking to you with a clear agenda in mind
genesis Zhangsun: which is a sort of "not being present"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes!
Kallie Kira: yep
genesis Zhangsun: we all do it of course :)
genesis Zhangsun: and it is even more interesting to notice when you start doing it
Corvuscorva Nightfire nodsnods!
Kallie Kira: yes ... I've made these little "policies" about some of that stuff ... nuts I know
Corvuscorva Nightfire: policies?
Kallie Kira: excuse myself to take phone calls
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Kallie Kira: don't be on the phone or take calls when talking with service people or in line to pay
Kallie Kira: seclude myself to talk ... hate the oh so public, private call
genesis Zhangsun: np
genesis Zhangsun: bye Kalle :)
genesis Zhangsun: say hi to Cal
Kallie Kira: no call atm, stating phone policies :)
genesis Zhangsun: oh sorry :)
Kallie Kira: lol
genesis Zhangsun: hehe a little fuzzy no tea yet
Kallie Kira: ways to be present with the people in front of me :)
Kallie Kira: the underlying premise is people always trump technology
Kallie Kira: uh-oh, used the word always :)
genesis Zhangsun: I think that is a good policy though yes always is tricky

genesis Zhangsun: technology is mixed in with almost everything we do
genesis Zhangsun: hard sometimes to separate it out
Kallie Kira: hard to extricate it
genesis Zhangsun: like now :)
Kallie Kira: :)
Kallie Kira: yeah this is a weird variation
Kallie Kira: got to skeedaddle :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: aw..me too, though
genesis Zhangsun: okay this time say hi to big sis cal!
genesis Zhangsun: :)
Kallie Kira: lol, you bet
genesis Zhangsun: see you both later
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Gen, bye, Kallie.
Kallie Kira: bye :) take care and be present :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
genesis Zhangsun: you too!
genesis Zhangsun: :)
genesis Zhangsun: or I'll get out my beach ball
Kallie Kira: he he
Kallie Kira: bye :)
genesis Zhangsun: bye