2009.04.30 01:00 - Distancing Things

The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar. The comments are by Fael Illyar.

Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fael Illyar: Hi Susi :)
Susi Alcott: Hi Fael
Susi Alcott: :)
Fael Illyar: Hi Star :)
Susi Alcott: Hi Stargate
Stargate Tone: Helllo Fael and Susi
Fael Illyar: surprisingly slow session today :)
Fael Illyar: last 2 sessions I was at, myself, were rather crowded at this time :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fael Illyar: meaning the last two sessions I was at and the guardian for.
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Susi Alcott: there is this way in human mind, which is known better that children has
Susi Alcott: to get the distance to such things that one cannot accept
Susi Alcott: for example if some beloved person needs to move out of this child's life
Susi Alcott: yet; this is somehow the way of an adult mind too
Susi Alcott: but it is more both; good and bad
Fael Illyar: it's a way to shield yourself from a loss you think will happen.
Susi Alcott: as child's mind ----normally----does not chooce that based on fear, but 'fact'
Fael Illyar: it happens much.
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fael Illyar wonders if strong fear is somehow based on decision like "never again" ...
Susi Alcott: sadly that also is such thing, which easily creates the state of mind that the fear only grows and makes more tricks to the person
Susi Alcott: could be :)
Fael Illyar: and also, fear can grow to include predictions that are true but only if the fear is there.
Fael Illyar: and feed itself that way
Susi Alcott: somehow I feel different of that thought
Susi Alcott: but sure that could be too...but as most of them fears are not based on the truth
Susi Alcott: even there would be the truth included; it to my opinion do always ease the fear
Fael Illyar: well, I wouldn't count such a fear to be based on the truth, exactly but I can't deny the fear doesn't have point because the fear itself is then causing what is being feared.
Susi Alcott: that too, and that's the huge reason to many dramas
Susi Alcott: which wouldn't be needed to anybody
Susi Alcott: well...thinking how I got to know about my fathers death few months before it happened
Susi Alcott: (he was hit by a car)
Fael Illyar: what did you do?
Susi Alcott: even I forgot that in my earthly mind; it took the distance
Susi Alcott: the knowledge eased both; my fear that my father would die and to recieve that information when it happened
Susi Alcott: as I did see the future in my 'dream', how we went with my mom to see him in the coffin with my
Susi Alcott: and I knew that it was no dream, when I woke up, but yes; my mind closed it behind the memory block
Susi Alcott: as I had much fears for my father to die because I loved and needed him so much, and I was 18 when he died
Fael Illyar: So, you had time to prepare yourself, however unconsciously it was.
Susi Alcott: yes
Susi Alcott: (didn't take longing, but the fear)
Fael Illyar: of course
Fael Illyar: but the fear is the more troublesome one of those.
Susi Alcott: yes
Susi Alcott: longing can also be for help
Fael Illyar: Yes, longing helps you keep the memory.
Susi Alcott: one can be afraid to even to try to take contact
Susi Alcott: longing can help such fear away, at least win it so that one acts for that the contact comes
Fael Illyar: Ah, yes, when approaching new people?
Susi Alcott: to miss new contacts is such longing yes
Susi Alcott: my mind was still within 'them dead ones'
Fael Illyar: aah
Susi Alcott: well; it was time when there was the belief that children who had the spirit friend was mentally ill
Susi Alcott: today there's different thinking
Susi Alcott: think that's because so many such children has turned to be psychiatrists
Susi Alcott: and brought the truth more out
Fael Illyar: :)
Susi Alcott: thinking that it's also mostly so, that people have contacts to 'beyond'
Susi Alcott: but have not speaken that so much that it would've yet been brought the same way to 'publick'...'official' attitude or knowledge...how ever that should been expressed
Fael Illyar: I guess children who have imaginary friends are similar?
Fael Illyar: that they're just called 'imaginary' by others
Susi Alcott: thinking that the event is similar
Fael Illyar: or invisible friends
Susi Alcott: they was yes, but seen there to happen almost the opposite change
Susi Alcott: that they are understood as seeers
Susi Alcott: it's just that still the world is such, that most of the people close there will to see beyond
Fael Illyar: Yes...
Fael Illyar: (and then they complain about how boring the world is)
Susi Alcott: lol
Susi Alcott: that happenes much too
Susi Alcott: well; mostly there's also reason to that will to rise
Susi Alcott: as it's still a question how to use one's energies; force...power
Susi Alcott: and all of the people are not strong within that
Susi Alcott: but imo; there's too much such behavier among people, that this will rises only for the will to have more easy life, cuz one is not understood right
Susi Alcott: that one is in away forced to that will
Fael Illyar: yes... although, the alternative would be to keep seeing but not talk about it.
Susi Alcott: and that can need even more force to use that can be quiet
Susi Alcott: specially when one sees options for other people to have better life if one would been allowed to speak out
Susi Alcott: ah...so many times people say; "Oh if I'de known...."
Fael Illyar: Yes ... yet, they choose to not know.
Susi Alcott: ...most of them should've only to listen...
Susi Alcott: yea...but not choocen that for fear
Fael Illyar: yes, fear to know.
Susi Alcott: so yes; seems 'bad typo', but you helped to correct it...as I didnt' mean to say that 'not'
Susi Alcott: yes; to fear not known
Susi Alcott: as mostly people win such fears that one knows to be there
Susi Alcott: as those fears that one dont know; they are the more trouble
Susi Alcott: and to that can meditation help
Susi Alcott: (too)
Fael Illyar: yes :)