2009.04.29 19:00 - Slowing Down Time

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.


    buddha Nirvana, Pema Pera, Pema Pera and Pila Mulligan joined me for this meeting.


    buddha Nirvana: hi steven:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Buddha and gina
    stevenaia Michinaga: gina, are you coming from a dance?
    stevenaia Michinaga: we could watch gina dance all night
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello gina
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Pema
    Pema Pera: Hi Gina and Steve and Buddha!
    gina Broono: good evening all wise people
    Pema Pera looking around for wise people
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pila Mulligan: greetings
    gina Broono: Pean, do not look farther than yourself
    Peer Infinity: hi :)
    Pila Mulligan: hi Peer
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Peer
    Pema Pera: Hi Pila and Peer!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Pila
    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
    Pema Pera: Well, Gina, we try to help each other to wisen up, I guess :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was late for this this afternoon's PaB RL discussion, were you there earlier Pila?
    buddha Nirvana: sry... hi everyone
    gina Broono: hello
    Pila Mulligan: hi buddha
    Pila Mulligan: yes Steve -- I had to leave early
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll check the log when it;s posted, my week is just moving by quickly
    Pema Pera: boy, do I know the feeling! :)
    Pila Mulligan: :) -- mine is also, and that's unusual situation here
    stevenaia Michinaga: how long will you in japan Pema?
    buddha Nirvana: unusual how pila?
    Pema Pera: until the end of May, Steve
    Pila Mulligan: the pace of life for me is usually quite sloe buddha
    Pila Mulligan: slow*
    buddha Nirvana: though you meant 'here' as in SL
    Pila Mulligan: nope
    buddha Nirvana: thought
    buddha Nirvana: ah , ok:)
    Pema Pera: :)
    buddha Nirvana: well we are thursday here in the UK, and yesterday did seem to be be sunday
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: that is quite a time shortcut
    buddha Nirvana: :)
    gina Broono: buddha u r i nUK?
    Pila Mulligan: maybe we're going through a slick spot on the space time continuum
    gina Broono: new moon
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    gina Broono: time of renewal
    gina Broono: and spring time
    buddha Nirvana: gin sorry, yes i am
    gina Broono: very interesting buddha
    buddha Nirvana: yes?
    gina Broono: being in UK
    gina Broono: us all being scattered around the globe and meeting here
    Pila Mulligan: Pema, some day I'd love to observe a science discussion of the state of the art theories on the expansion of space and time (if the premise is not wrongly assumed)
    Pila Mulligan: would Kira be a venue for such a session?
    Pema Pera: sure, we've had various talks on those topics
    Pema Pera: at MICA
    Pila Mulligan: cool
    Pila Mulligan: is there a schedule?
    Pema Pera: http://www.mica-vw.org/
    Pila Mulligan: thanks
    Pema Pera: some activities are joint MICA/Kira
    buddha Nirvana: i saw a very interesting doc on a guy who uses grand sculputers to manipulate light
    Pema Pera: sculputers?
    Pila Mulligan: grand sculputers?
    buddha Nirvana: i really cant remember his name, but he was US based
    buddha Nirvana: yes, huge crators, buildings, sculptures
    stevenaia Michinaga: I never checked for comments on my half baked understanding on that topic Pila
    Pila Mulligan: ahh, Steve gave me a primer during this sesssion a week or so ago
    buddha Nirvana: i;ll try and fish his name out for another session
    gina Broono: sculputers not sculptures would be an interesting concept: a mix between computers and sculpture
    buddha Nirvana: eek typo:)
    Pema Pera: :(
    Pema Pera: skulputers . . . .
    gina Broono: it was a lovely typo
    Pema Pera: before computes
    Pema Pera: *rs
    buddha Nirvana: lol:)
    buddha Nirvana: no doubt such things have already been carved
    stevenaia Michinaga: Gina, have you seen Adam's exhibition on RL and SL Sacred architecture?
    gina Broono: a creative typ-o
    gina Broono: no, i'd love to
    stevenaia Michinaga: anyone have a link handy (Pema)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think there is one at the Kira Cafe
    gina Broono: i cannot get into it yet
    buddha Nirvana: )or computers made from skulls)
    stevenaia Michinaga: get into what?
    gina Broono: Kira
    gina Broono: i just added it to my groups that may help
    stevenaia Michinaga: the Architecture exhibit is at the Hall of Appearances
    gina Broono: I'll check it out after here
    gina Broono: thank you generous people
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll post the locations in the log as well
    stevenaia Michinaga: the web links take you to an SL location if SL is running
    stevenaia Michinaga: the marvels of computers and SL
    gina Broono: I can hardly wait to visit, I expect something like Zaha Hadid's work
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, these are recreations of RL works, temples of various religions
    gina Broono: oh I see
    gina Broono: there are many brilliant minds that created all this SL world
    gina Broono: I cannot get enough - every day I discover another wonderland

    Recently I have been taking Tai Chi classes and I began to notice how ny sence of time passing has changed...

    stevenaia Michinaga: speaking of Space and Time, Pila, I am noticing a change of sense of both as I do more Tai Chi
    Pila Mulligan: :) cool
    buddha Nirvana: how so steven?
    Pila Mulligan: things go quite slow sometimes, grasshopper :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: an interesting sense of change of pace
    stevenaia Michinaga: while walking slow in NYC, the relative sense of movement and time sense change (everyone moves fast in NYC)
    buddha Nirvana: are all the senses effected ?
    Pila Mulligan: in more than 30 years of tai chi practice I only had one occasion to use it at need in a real life situation, and it was just like in the movies -- time got *very* slow, appearing one frame at a time, kind of like a preview of what was happening
    Pila Mulligan: oops, sorry
    Pila Mulligan: bad timing
    stevenaia Michinaga: many time puns tonight
    Pema Pera: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s nice to be able to just... change your sense of the perception of time, Sunday was a "World Tai Chi Day" event, there was a large group of us moving through time slower
    stevenaia Michinaga: you used Tai Chi to defend yourself Pila?
    Pila Mulligan: once
    Pila Mulligan: once upon a time ... :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was learning it more as exercise since I stopped doing yoga, not realizing it was also for defense
    Pila Mulligan: it is more exercise than martial art, usually
    stevenaia Michinaga: yoga is hardly defensive
    Pila Mulligan: in a sense it can be though -- energy wise
    Pila Mulligan: yoga
    Pila Mulligan: strengthening your prana :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: my what?
    Pila Mulligan: your chi
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Pila Mulligan: "Prana is a central concept in Ayurveda and Yoga where it is believed to flow through a network of fine subtle channels called nadis. "
    Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana
    stevenaia Michinaga: nothing is simple
    gina Broono: everything is simple
    gina Broono: it's how you look at it
    Pila Mulligan: nothing is everything
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually from the begining end it;s not, but like any process, things usually become more simple with time
    gina Broono: and the more acceptable and bearabe
    gina Broono: bearable*
    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure I would go that far
    stevenaia Michinaga: in general
    stevenaia Michinaga: was thinking more in terms of learning, digesting concepts, and then comes understanding
    Pema Pera: Steve, can you tell us a bit more about your experiences walking in NYC in a more tai chi way?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was just using the NYC walking as an analogy
    stevenaia Michinaga: I have a NYC walking gate that generally keeps pace with most when I am getting places in Manhattan
    gina Broono: walking gate?
    stevenaia Michinaga: step
    gina Broono: oh, gait
    Pema Pera: jumping gates perhaps ? :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: speed that I walk
    Pema Pera: that's what many do at the subway
    gina Broono: NY state of mind
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    gina Broono: i do it often as I live here
    gina Broono: brisk
    gina Broono: with a purpose
    stevenaia Michinaga: Tai Chi is like walking slowly amongst the speedi walkers
    gina Broono: purposeful walking and being
    gina Broono: dear people, I have to go for now
    gina Broono: see you tomorrow night
    gina Broono: keep smiling
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye gina
    Pema Pera: bye Gina!
    gina Broono: and spread the happiness and joy to all fellow earth residents
    gina Broono: as you do here
    gina Broono: : )
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s like meditation, but I suppose that to literal as isn;t tai chi called walking meditation?
    gina Broono: Pema, ty
    Pema Pera: yw :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps I'm just moving into that "place" of understanding
    Pila Mulligan: [interested but has rl phone call]
    stevenaia Michinaga: tai Chi may just be another tool like the 9 second or 90 second meditations
    stevenaia Michinaga: anything done with consistence open you up to changes in perceptions
    stevenaia Michinaga: *opens
    Pema Pera: viewing the world in a different way is a great form of active meditation
    Pema Pera: if you do that in the midsts of daily activities, it has more chance to let you integrate it with daily life, compared to sitting on a cushion
    Pema Pera: there are many variations: walking while viewing the world as a dream
    Pema Pera: or as a kind of heavenly realm, if that fits with your background and other practice
    stevenaia Michinaga: meditation as a "heavenly realm"?
    Pema Pera: no, seeing the world around you as a kind of heavenly realm
    Pema Pera: the sacredness in and as everyone and everything
    stevenaia Michinaga: well ofcourse
    Pema Pera: of course?
    stevenaia Michinaga: everything as sacredness
    Pema Pera: well, it requires you to remember, first of all, to do that, and then to stick with really putting yourself into that frame of mind for a while
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is.. and then there is perceiving it as such
    Pema Pera: It's easy to talk or think about it as an idea, but actually doing it initially takes some effort, but can have very powerful consequences, quite quickly, if you really do it.
    Pema Pera: and it changes everything: your way of breathing, your posture, your whole presence
    Pema Pera: like with tai chi, but starting with a thought rather than a physical posture
    Pema Pera: complementary
    stevenaia Michinaga: interesting how little of that has begin in the west, most of it borrowed from the east
    stevenaia Michinaga: but yes, it is very complementary
    Pema Pera: Thich Nhat Hanh, a Vietnamese Zen master, had a very interesting one-liner about this, something like:
    Pema Pera: we are amazed by the idea of astronauts walking in space, or someone walking on water, but in fact, each time we walk on the grass or on the sand, it is equally miraculous
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, I must go, RL calls
    Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you Pema, Peer and Pils
    Pila Mulligan: thank you
    Pila Mulligan: happy walking :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Pema Pera: bye Steve
    Pema Pera: time for me too
    Pema Pera: good seeing you all again!
    Pila Mulligan: bye Pema
    Pema Pera: bfn
    Pila Mulligan: Peer, have you and Pema talked more about the wiki ideas?
    Peer Infinity: no, we haven't
    Pila Mulligan: he seems kind of busy
    Peer Infinity: yes
    Pila Mulligan: well, I need to deal with another rl phone call -- see yuo next time, Peer
    Pila Mulligan: bye
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