2009.09.28 07:00 - A Small Pithy Thing

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    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning caledonia
    Caledonia Heron: hi :)
    Caledonia Heron: how are you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine thanks, just trying to figure out how a chatlog has to be posted :)
    Caledonia Heron: you mean how to do it?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ha worked
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i haven´t edited anything but i was worried because i just registered on the pab wiki and i am able to post a log
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or somebody gave me the rights to post something whithout my knowing :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so everyone on the internet might post a chatlog there :P
    Caledonia Heron: it's login based so I think you're ok :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i meant everyone can register


    Yakuzza Lethecus: so know my mind is here :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how are you ?
    Caledonia Heron: ok :)
    Caledonia Heron: I'm good.... Monday morning kind of thing going on :)
    Caledonia Heron: you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey gaya
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i just had the issue that all sessions i´ve been in were posted by wol so far
    Caledonia Heron: hi Gaya :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have a slot since friday and i was eager to figure out how to post something
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Caledonia [long time] and Yakuzza :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i just posted it uncommented
    Caledonia Heron: you can always go back and add comments if you like


    Yakuzza Lethecus: why is relam only once a month now , by the way ? :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah
    Caledonia Heron: logistical in nature, to find, secure, prep and execute on a weekly basis is almost a full time job
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can imagine, it bacame a habit to watch relam every wednesday :)
    Caledonia Heron: yes, I know, that's true for others also
    Caledonia Heron: I hope it survives in a monthly format
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you guys do definitivly a great job :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Caledonia Heron: thank you :) I'll pass that along
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a full house is the best praise i guess
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm i hope it´s the proper word for ,,loben"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sopha/arch
    Caledonia Heron: yes for sure Yakuzza so tell your friends! how are you Gaya? It's been a long while since I've seen you :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello SophiaSharon and Archmage :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I know, I've been doing well. How have you been?
    Caledonia Heron: hi Sophia, Archmage :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone :))
    Caledonia Heron: good Gaya! It's been so long I'm not sure where we left off, but the general trend is good :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)


    Archmage Atlantis: Must remove life machines, 1 moment
    Gaya Ethaniel spies Sophia's ears ... ooo they are moving!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ?
    Caledonia Heron: life machines?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha Gaya, I tried to change the script, but although its modify, I can't open it lol
    Gaya Ethaniel: Life machines?
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)


    Gaya Ethaniel: Can I ask a Q?
    Caledonia Heron: for sure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Gaya Ethaniel: ty :) What does 'being open' mean to you all?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in which context ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: open to talk about life and personal things
    Yakuzza Lethecus: openmindedness to be curious about everything whats going on and seems sensefull
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i dunno
    Caledonia Heron: receptive
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello stevenaia :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey stevenaia
    Caledonia Heron: Hi Stevenaia :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Gaya Ethaniel: Would you mind expanding on 'receptive' Cal?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: That is such a great question Gaya, I didn't realiza how much so until I tried to type out and answer!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: an answer Etc (sorry typos) :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I know what you mean SophiaSharon :)
    Caledonia Heron: able to receive, open to ideas
    Archmage Atlantis: Fighting becoming cyborg
    Archmage Atlantis: chuckle


    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey pema
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Pema
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok so being flexible is important?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pema :)
    Pema Pera: hi everybody!
    Caledonia Heron: hi Pema :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, it doesn´t sound well when you say that you are removing life machines arch
    SophiaSharon Larnia: implies a lack of barriers to me Gaya
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whatever those may be
    Caledonia Heron: Pema, here is the question at hand: [7:14] Gaya Ethaniel: ty :) What does 'being open' mean to you all?
    Pema Pera: good question, Gaya :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Word are only sounds,, or type
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel thinks ... barriers ...
    stevenaia Michinaga: being opened to me.... not holding tightly to what you believe, leaving room for new thoughts
    Archmage Atlantis: We speak of enlgihtment or soul
    Archmage Atlantis: No barriers


    Pema Pera: One old Tibetan text that has long inspired me, concerning openness, is this one:

    Since all things are naked, clear and free from obscurations, there is nothing to attain or realize.

    The everyday practice is simply to develop a complete acceptance and openness to all situations and emotions.

    And to all people -- experiencing everything totally without reservations and blockages, so that one never withdraws or centralises onto oneself.


    Archmage Atlantis: Yes Pema
    Archmage Atlantis: Is closest to truth
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think that is why I am here, open to the new
    Archmage Atlantis: I hide not myself, nor from myself
    Caledonia Heron: That text is a good guideline
    stevenaia Michinaga: (new to me)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is an ideal that is very hard for me to look at and face directly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so it brings up the question of what the perceived barriers to that are, my own, but what
    Pema Pera: for all of us, Sharon; that's why it's good to practice a little bit, a few times an hour :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel ponders ... "one never withdraws or centralises onto oneself." ... so probably related to being connected also ...


    Pema Pera: we tend to go on the defensive, all the time . . . .
    Caledonia Heron: yes, or look at situations as they apply to ourselves
    Gaya Ethaniel: What are we defending Pema?
    Pema Pera: and of course, we should be prudent, but not as an automatic fear reaction, as we usually do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Gaya :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to the connectedness
    Pema Pera: all kind of things, Gaya :) The problem is we consider ourselves as little needy creatures
    Pema Pera: in a dangerous world
    Caledonia Heron: lol, we consider ourselves as the center of the universe :)
    Archmage Atlantis: prudent = human, automatic = ?
    Pema Pera: lol indeed, Cal :)
    Pema Pera: prudent, like in "don't step in front of a speeding car"
    Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: I will, to save the life of another
    Archmage Atlantis: Not because my life is less
    Pema Pera: there are exceptions to any guideline, sure
    Caledonia Heron decides to walk in NYC with Archmage ...
    Archmage Atlantis: Because it is to be greater
    Pema Pera: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so openess, connectedness, no barriers :)


    Gaya Ethaniel: When do you notice that you're being closed up easily? When that narrow sense of self interferes? What do you do to open up then?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Sophia
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello sophia :)
    Caledonia Heron: hi sophia :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia placebo :)
    Pema Pera: Yes, Sharon; no barriers, and more precisely: no hiding behind barriers -- a barrier in the middle of a busy road is a good thing :). The barriers may have a useful function.
    Pema Pera: Hi Sophia!
    sophia Placebo: hi all :)
    Pema Pera: relaxing is enough, typically, Gaya; trying to force yourself to open is a different way of closing down . . .
    Archmage Atlantis: I have walked in NYC, with leg, with cane, with walker
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.
    Pema Pera: dropping what you have is a good start


    Gaya Ethaniel: Dropping is a good start, yes but I sometimes think that opening up means see what's present more other than the 'barriers'.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Like open a treasure box and see what's inside ... :)
    Pema Pera: yes, seeing, watching, letting things present themselves, are all good gently ways for opening up
    Pema Pera: like APA, appreciating the presence of appearance :-)
    Caledonia Heron: to add to these abstract ideas I have a practical experience story, about appearance and openess
    Pema Pera: each moment really is a treasure box, fresh and new
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Pema, RL is not gently given


    Gaya Ethaniel perks up, a story!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Pema Pera waits with baited breath
    Caledonia Heron: it's very short really, and goes to how do I take what I know and learn to be true from here into my everyday life
    Caledonia Heron: and it goes like this
    Caledonia Heron: there is a special someone (as we all have sometime) who I realized I was creating a certain way and things seemed discordant
    Caledonia Heron: so I didn't change how I created them, how that person appeared, I noticed the appearance, that I was doing it
    Caledonia Heron: and it went away, that appearance, and the fresh appearance, the openess to what might appear was transformational
    Caledonia Heron: not like burning bush transformational, but the freedom to let that super important person show up in their best way was like fresh air
    Caledonia Heron: that's it
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Pema Pera: thank you, Cal!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)


    Archmage Atlantis: If we all continue to use big words, the truth, which is simple, shall remain elusive
    SophiaSharon Larnia: by dropping the way it appeared to you, Caledonia?
    Archmage Atlantis: This morning I awoke
    Archmage Atlantis: *awoke
    Gaya Ethaniel mulls over Cal's story ...
    Archmage Atlantis: My lover was in my mind
    Pema Pera: it's such a nice illustration of how we cannot force opening up, but we can let it happen, by stopping to clamp down
    Archmage Atlantis: He lives a world away
    Caledonia Heron: mmm, yes Sophia, not even the effort of dropping it, more noticing that it was an appearance, created by me and as such it vaporized somehow
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Who's this 'me' Cal?


    Pema Pera: "seeing is enough" -- sounds abstract, but can be very concrete
    Caledonia Heron: the me inside my bag of skin and water :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: And machines
    Caledonia Heron: exactly Pema, I didn't have to make up a new schema, or appearance, I saw what appeared and that was good enough
    Caledonia Heron: and it's very practical, because I interact with this person 24/7
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: Take the next seconds we shall be given, see the machines
    Pema Pera: how about all of us doing just that, what you described, Cal, during the next 90 seconds break, with someone who is special to us?
    Pema Pera: hehehe, Cal
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Pema Pera: could be 24/7 special :-)
    Caledonia Heron: lol, which can be huge :)


    Pema Pera: Hi Doug!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Doug
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello doug :)
    Caledonia Heron: an additional thing about what I mentioned is that after asking myself: is what I'm seeing/getting an appearance? and then it disappearing upon asking is that it seemed to affect the other person, like they no longer had to play that role, it tickles the realm of magical somehow :)
    Caledonia Heron: hi Doug :)
    sophia Placebo: and i thought i crashed due to the silance ! , hi doug
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is truely inspired, Cal :))
    Gaya Ethaniel: I can imagine that Cal :)
    Pema Pera: it really is magical . . .
    doug Sosa: hi, can only stay a few minutes but wanted to join.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Doug
    Archmage Atlantis: Tell me of eggplant Doug, or garden
    doug Sosa: eggplant?
    stevenaia Michinaga: wave good day to all


    Gaya Ethaniel: hm ... how did we start from being receptive to seeing? :P
    Pema Pera: Cal, I thought at some point that the person you talked about was yourself -- or perhaps you meant that? In any case, that would be a nice exploration too!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day stevenaia :)
    Caledonia Heron: bye Stevenaia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this is a great exercise, the excersises i want to try are just piling up and up, don't have enough time lol
    Pema Pera: bye Steve!
    sophia Placebo: good bye steve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Stevenaia
    Caledonia Heron: no, not me, but someone very close and very loved
    Pema Pera: just pick what you like among 37 flavors, Sharon :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry about the the typos!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whoa, Doug meant a minute ;p
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Song, Ingrid Michaelson, Maybe
    Caledonia Heron: it's hilarious in a way because I was just walking through the hallway when it occurred to me, no great mediation boo-bah, no ceremoniousness whatsoever
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Cal, I know what you mean
    Archmage Atlantis: So your eyes, have opened, this next time,. Cal
    Caledonia Heron: oh, I'm sure I'll fall asleep again
    Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: The creator evolves, we follow
    Caledonia Heron: and then I'll wake up again
    Caledonia Heron: wash rinse repeat
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)


    Gaya Ethaniel: Need to go wash, rinse, repeat in RL now. Thank you everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks... i burn very bright at times, am trying to prevent that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Gaya :)
    Pema Pera imagining Cal winking at reality, having it all, one eye open, one eye closed . . . .
    Pema Pera: bye Gaya!
    Caledonia Heron: bye Gaya :)
    sophia Placebo: by gaya
    Caledonia Heron: lol, great image
    Pema Pera: well, I'll have to go back to work. Thank you, Cal & all !
    Caledonia Heron: have to go now, sorry to take so much bandwidth
    sophia Placebo: bye pema
    SophiaSharon Larnia: must go too myself, take care :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Archmage Atlantis: Not yet Pema
    sophia Placebo: bye cal
    Pema Pera: oh no, on the contrary!
    Pema Pera: your story was very pithy :-)
    Pema Pera: bfn
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes thank you!
    Caledonia Heron thinks of a small fruit :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: This place I call the Creator of all to bless

    Caledonia Heron: hope the recorder works today ... love the recorder :)

    Archmage Atlantis: Sigh

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