2009.09.28 07:00 - A Small Pithy Thing

Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning caledonia
Caledonia Heron: hi :)
Caledonia Heron: how are you?
Yakuzza Lethecus: fine thanks, just trying to figure out how a chatlog has to be posted :)
Caledonia Heron: you mean how to do it?
Yakuzza Lethecus: ha worked
Yakuzza Lethecus: i haven´t edited anything but i was worried because i just registered on the pab wiki and i am able to post a log
Yakuzza Lethecus: or somebody gave me the rights to post something whithout my knowing :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: so everyone on the internet might post a chatlog there :P
Caledonia Heron: it's login based so I think you're ok :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i meant everyone can register

Yakuzza Lethecus: so know my mind is here :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: how are you ?
Caledonia Heron: ok :)
Caledonia Heron: I'm good.... Monday morning kind of thing going on :)
Caledonia Heron: you?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey gaya
Yakuzza Lethecus: i just had the issue that all sessions i´ve been in were posted by wol so far
Caledonia Heron: hi Gaya :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i have a slot since friday and i was eager to figure out how to post something
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Caledonia [long time] and Yakuzza :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i just posted it uncommented
Caledonia Heron: you can always go back and add comments if you like

Yakuzza Lethecus: why is relam only once a month now , by the way ? :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah
Caledonia Heron: logistical in nature, to find, secure, prep and execute on a weekly basis is almost a full time job
Yakuzza Lethecus: i can imagine, it bacame a habit to watch relam every wednesday :)
Caledonia Heron: yes, I know, that's true for others also
Caledonia Heron: I hope it survives in a monthly format
Yakuzza Lethecus: you guys do definitivly a great job :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Caledonia Heron: thank you :) I'll pass that along
Yakuzza Lethecus: a full house is the best praise i guess
Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm i hope it´s the proper word for ,,loben"
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sopha/arch
Caledonia Heron: yes for sure Yakuzza so tell your friends! how are you Gaya? It's been a long while since I've seen you :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello SophiaSharon and Archmage :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I know, I've been doing well. How have you been?
Caledonia Heron: hi Sophia, Archmage :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone :))
Caledonia Heron: good Gaya! It's been so long I'm not sure where we left off, but the general trend is good :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)

Archmage Atlantis: Must remove life machines, 1 moment
Gaya Ethaniel spies Sophia's ears ... ooo they are moving!
Yakuzza Lethecus: ?
Caledonia Heron: life machines?
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha Gaya, I tried to change the script, but although its modify, I can't open it lol
Gaya Ethaniel: Life machines?
Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)

Gaya Ethaniel: Can I ask a Q?
Caledonia Heron: for sure
SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
Gaya Ethaniel: ty :) What does 'being open' mean to you all?
Yakuzza Lethecus: in which context ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: open to talk about life and personal things
Yakuzza Lethecus: openmindedness to be curious about everything whats going on and seems sensefull
Yakuzza Lethecus: i dunno
Caledonia Heron: receptive
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello stevenaia :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey stevenaia
Caledonia Heron: Hi Stevenaia :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello
Gaya Ethaniel: Would you mind expanding on 'receptive' Cal?
SophiaSharon Larnia: That is such a great question Gaya, I didn't realiza how much so until I tried to type out and answer!
SophiaSharon Larnia: an answer Etc (sorry typos) :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I know what you mean SophiaSharon :)
Caledonia Heron: able to receive, open to ideas
Archmage Atlantis: Fighting becoming cyborg
Archmage Atlantis: chuckle

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey pema
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Pema
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok so being flexible is important?
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pema :)
Pema Pera: hi everybody!
Caledonia Heron: hi Pema :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, it doesn´t sound well when you say that you are removing life machines arch
SophiaSharon Larnia: implies a lack of barriers to me Gaya
SophiaSharon Larnia: whatever those may be
Caledonia Heron: Pema, here is the question at hand: [7:14] Gaya Ethaniel: ty :) What does 'being open' mean to you all?
Pema Pera: good question, Gaya :)
Archmage Atlantis: Word are only sounds,, or type
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel thinks ... barriers ...
stevenaia Michinaga: being opened to me.... not holding tightly to what you believe, leaving room for new thoughts
Archmage Atlantis: We speak of enlgihtment or soul
Archmage Atlantis: No barriers

Pema Pera: One old Tibetan text that has long inspired me, concerning openness, is this one:

Since all things are naked, clear and free from obscurations, there is nothing to attain or realize.

The everyday practice is simply to develop a complete acceptance and openness to all situations and emotions.

And to all people -- experiencing everything totally without reservations and blockages, so that one never withdraws or centralises onto oneself.

Archmage Atlantis: Yes Pema
Archmage Atlantis: Is closest to truth
stevenaia Michinaga: I think that is why I am here, open to the new
Archmage Atlantis: I hide not myself, nor from myself
Caledonia Heron: That text is a good guideline
stevenaia Michinaga: (new to me)
SophiaSharon Larnia: it is an ideal that is very hard for me to look at and face directly
SophiaSharon Larnia: so it brings up the question of what the perceived barriers to that are, my own, but what
Pema Pera: for all of us, Sharon; that's why it's good to practice a little bit, a few times an hour :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Gaya Ethaniel ponders ... "one never withdraws or centralises onto oneself." ... so probably related to being connected also ...

Pema Pera: we tend to go on the defensive, all the time . . . .
Caledonia Heron: yes, or look at situations as they apply to ourselves
Gaya Ethaniel: What are we defending Pema?
Pema Pera: and of course, we should be prudent, but not as an automatic fear reaction, as we usually do
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Gaya :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: to the connectedness
Pema Pera: all kind of things, Gaya :) The problem is we consider ourselves as little needy creatures
Pema Pera: in a dangerous world
Caledonia Heron: lol, we consider ourselves as the center of the universe :)
Archmage Atlantis: prudent = human, automatic = ?
Pema Pera: lol indeed, Cal :)
Pema Pera: prudent, like in "don't step in front of a speeding car"
Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Archmage Atlantis: I will, to save the life of another
Archmage Atlantis: Not because my life is less
Pema Pera: there are exceptions to any guideline, sure
Caledonia Heron decides to walk in NYC with Archmage ...
Archmage Atlantis: Because it is to be greater
Pema Pera: :)
Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
SophiaSharon Larnia: so openess, connectedness, no barriers :)

Gaya Ethaniel: When do you notice that you're being closed up easily? When that narrow sense of self interferes? What do you do to open up then?
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Sophia
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello sophia :)
Caledonia Heron: hi sophia :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia placebo :)
Pema Pera: Yes, Sharon; no barriers, and more precisely: no hiding behind barriers -- a barrier in the middle of a busy road is a good thing :). The barriers may have a useful function.
Pema Pera: Hi Sophia!
sophia Placebo: hi all :)
Pema Pera: relaxing is enough, typically, Gaya; trying to force yourself to open is a different way of closing down . . .
Archmage Atlantis: I have walked in NYC, with leg, with cane, with walker
Gaya Ethaniel nods.
Pema Pera: dropping what you have is a good start

Gaya Ethaniel: Dropping is a good start, yes but I sometimes think that opening up means see what's present more other than the 'barriers'.
Gaya Ethaniel: Like open a treasure box and see what's inside ... :)
Pema Pera: yes, seeing, watching, letting things present themselves, are all good gently ways for opening up
Pema Pera: like APA, appreciating the presence of appearance :-)
Caledonia Heron: to add to these abstract ideas I have a practical experience story, about appearance and openess
Pema Pera: each moment really is a treasure box, fresh and new
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Pema, RL is not gently given

Gaya Ethaniel perks up, a story!
SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
Pema Pera waits with baited breath
Caledonia Heron: it's very short really, and goes to how do I take what I know and learn to be true from here into my everyday life
Caledonia Heron: and it goes like this
Caledonia Heron: there is a special someone (as we all have sometime) who I realized I was creating a certain way and things seemed discordant
Caledonia Heron: so I didn't change how I created them, how that person appeared, I noticed the appearance, that I was doing it
Caledonia Heron: and it went away, that appearance, and the fresh appearance, the openess to what might appear was transformational
Caledonia Heron: not like burning bush transformational, but the freedom to let that super important person show up in their best way was like fresh air
Caledonia Heron: that's it
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Pema Pera: thank you, Cal!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)

Archmage Atlantis: If we all continue to use big words, the truth, which is simple, shall remain elusive
SophiaSharon Larnia: by dropping the way it appeared to you, Caledonia?
Archmage Atlantis: This morning I awoke
Archmage Atlantis: *awoke
Gaya Ethaniel mulls over Cal's story ...
Archmage Atlantis: My lover was in my mind
Pema Pera: it's such a nice illustration of how we cannot force opening up, but we can let it happen, by stopping to clamp down
Archmage Atlantis: He lives a world away
Caledonia Heron: mmm, yes Sophia, not even the effort of dropping it, more noticing that it was an appearance, created by me and as such it vaporized somehow
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Who's this 'me' Cal?

Pema Pera: "seeing is enough" -- sounds abstract, but can be very concrete
Caledonia Heron: the me inside my bag of skin and water :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Pema Pera: :)
Archmage Atlantis: And machines
Caledonia Heron: exactly Pema, I didn't have to make up a new schema, or appearance, I saw what appeared and that was good enough
Caledonia Heron: and it's very practical, because I interact with this person 24/7
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Archmage Atlantis: Take the next seconds we shall be given, see the machines
Pema Pera: how about all of us doing just that, what you described, Cal, during the next 90 seconds break, with someone who is special to us?
Pema Pera: hehehe, Cal
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Pema Pera: could be 24/7 special :-)
Caledonia Heron: lol, which can be huge :)

Pema Pera: Hi Doug!
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Doug
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello doug :)
Caledonia Heron: an additional thing about what I mentioned is that after asking myself: is what I'm seeing/getting an appearance? and then it disappearing upon asking is that it seemed to affect the other person, like they no longer had to play that role, it tickles the realm of magical somehow :)
Caledonia Heron: hi Doug :)
sophia Placebo: and i thought i crashed due to the silance ! , hi doug
SophiaSharon Larnia: is truely inspired, Cal :))
Gaya Ethaniel: I can imagine that Cal :)
Pema Pera: it really is magical . . .
doug Sosa: hi, can only stay a few minutes but wanted to join.
SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Doug
Archmage Atlantis: Tell me of eggplant Doug, or garden
doug Sosa: eggplant?
stevenaia Michinaga: wave good day to all

Gaya Ethaniel: hm ... how did we start from being receptive to seeing? :P
Pema Pera: Cal, I thought at some point that the person you talked about was yourself -- or perhaps you meant that? In any case, that would be a nice exploration too!
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day stevenaia :)
Caledonia Heron: bye Stevenaia :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: this is a great exercise, the excersises i want to try are just piling up and up, don't have enough time lol
Pema Pera: bye Steve!
sophia Placebo: good bye steve
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Stevenaia
Caledonia Heron: no, not me, but someone very close and very loved
Pema Pera: just pick what you like among 37 flavors, Sharon :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry about the the typos!
SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
SophiaSharon Larnia: whoa, Doug meant a minute ;p
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Song, Ingrid Michaelson, Maybe
Caledonia Heron: it's hilarious in a way because I was just walking through the hallway when it occurred to me, no great mediation boo-bah, no ceremoniousness whatsoever
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Pema Pera: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Cal, I know what you mean
Archmage Atlantis: So your eyes, have opened, this next time,. Cal
Caledonia Heron: oh, I'm sure I'll fall asleep again
Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Archmage Atlantis: The creator evolves, we follow
Caledonia Heron: and then I'll wake up again
Caledonia Heron: wash rinse repeat
Gaya Ethaniel: :)

Gaya Ethaniel: Need to go wash, rinse, repeat in RL now. Thank you everyone :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks... i burn very bright at times, am trying to prevent that
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Gaya :)
Pema Pera imagining Cal winking at reality, having it all, one eye open, one eye closed . . . .
Pema Pera: bye Gaya!
Caledonia Heron: bye Gaya :)
sophia Placebo: by gaya
Caledonia Heron: lol, great image
Pema Pera: well, I'll have to go back to work. Thank you, Cal & all !
Caledonia Heron: have to go now, sorry to take so much bandwidth
sophia Placebo: bye pema
SophiaSharon Larnia: must go too myself, take care :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Archmage Atlantis: Not yet Pema
sophia Placebo: bye cal
Pema Pera: oh no, on the contrary!
Pema Pera: your story was very pithy :-)
Pema Pera: bfn
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes thank you!
Caledonia Heron thinks of a small fruit :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Archmage Atlantis: This place I call the Creator of all to bless

Caledonia Heron: hope the recorder works today ... love the recorder :)

Archmage Atlantis: Sigh