2010.07.21 07:00 - Renewing commitment daily

The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hi gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Yaku :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Agatha :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi aga
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Gaya Yaku :)
Agatha Macbeth: Not many here...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: There was quite a crowd here at this time on Monday
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Eliza :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liz :))

--BELL--

Gaya Ethaniel: Did you have a good chat on Monday?
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I can't remember what we talked about!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya, Ya, Agatha :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: :p
Eliza Madrigal: I think on Monday we were mermaids of sheer awareness..
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, the mermaids
Eliza Madrigal: Tuesday we dove through the sky...
Agatha Macbeth: Eden was here...i remember now
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like Yaku nodded off again ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: I apologize for arriving late today... was a bit caught up
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Steve
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve :) So nice to see you
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello stevenaia :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello, is the a scheduled event?
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I was taking a quick look at the museum
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes 7 am PaB :P
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Agatha Macbeth grins
Gaya Ethaniel: Next week is Dream Circle at this time.
Eliza Madrigal: Gaya's a great 'obvious stater'
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Aww, I can't be here then :((
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry, on vacation, just wanted to get here so if I could make it on my iphone from my vacation house I could log in
Gaya Ethaniel: Shame ...
Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, how neat Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: I can't transport via "Sparkle"
Eliza Madrigal: I've wondered where you've been
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Can you sit?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: In all these aps, it seems that people have to stay on the edges....
stevenaia Michinaga: riding bike, drinking coffee and sitting on the beach reading
Agatha Macbeth: Someone tell me what Sparkle is again?
Gaya Ethaniel: Sounds lovely :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ooooo beach reading, my favorite :)
stevenaia Michinaga: it's an App for an iphone that allows you to log into Sl in chat mode
Agatha Macbeth: Ah right, that's it ty
stevenaia Michinaga: I appear as a fog to you, but I can type in a group chat
Agatha Macbeth: I remember Eden telling me once but forgot
Gaya Ethaniel: I see you fine stevenaia.
Eliza Madrigal: I see you clearly today Steve
Agatha Macbeth: Me too
stevenaia Michinaga: It may be available in google phones too
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
stevenaia Michinaga: I am at the coffeeshop w/ internet at my puter atm
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nice work if you can get it ;-)
stevenaia Michinaga: have to go deliver coffee and NYT to my spouse, may be I'll be back , nice to run into you all
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Steve :) You too
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy stevenaia :)
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun Steve, be careful out there
stevenaia Michinaga: (thinking I might be able to participate while peddling back, but that could be dangerous :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahha
Agatha Macbeth prods Yaku and looks for signs of life
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, please don't try that :)
Gaya Ethaniel: No, safety first!
stevenaia Michinaga: bye
Gaya Ethaniel: bfn
Eliza Madrigal: Ya is 'away'... maybe found a timeless portal....
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Dozed off more like :)
Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes the same thing...
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes to a timeless portal ...
Agatha Macbeth: But then he does get up very early
Gaya Ethaniel: I do feel sleepy today ...
Agatha Macbeth: Probably the weather
Gaya Ethaniel: How do you mean?
Eliza Madrigal: Yakuzza is trying to get 'more' out of time and space than thought possible before... often being in two, three places at once...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: time and space :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well I always feel warm weather makes me tire quicker
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: It's cooler today here ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Nice and breezy ... yesterday was somewhat dense.
Agatha Macbeth: Well my screen says 18C but it feels warmer
Gaya Ethaniel: You need a new fan for your puter maybe :P
Eliza Madrigal: Nice for you guys.... verrrrrrrrry warm here
Agatha Macbeth: And for me :p
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: What's the temperature Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: Well it says 83*F... however it feels moreso
Gaya Ethaniel: Gah I'm sorry. I'm Anglicised and so can talk about weather forever.
Agatha Macbeth: Yuk
Eliza Madrigal: hahahah Gaya
Agatha Macbeth: Actually I tend to talk about it quite rarely
Eliza Madrigal: Well, it is part of what makes up a moment...
Agatha Macbeth: Except for 'I can't stand it'
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: This morning, I had a very wonderful morning practice
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Gaya Ethaniel listens.
Eliza Madrigal: It is why I was late actually... lost track of the plans for the day entirely for a bit there...
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Eliza Madrigal: also why joking about Ya :))
Eliza Madrigal: I've had the intention of 'starting in timelessness' sort of...

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: brb
Agatha Macbeth: Back
Eliza Madrigal: and then, sort of letting the rest of the day come out of that
Gaya Ethaniel: What do you mean by 'having intention' by the way?
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, well like we 'mean to' pause
Agatha Macbeth: And how d'you start in timelessness Liz?
Eliza Madrigal: So at the beginning of the year, my resolution was 'right time'....
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes I remember.
Eliza Madrigal: which meant that I was going to pay attention to this... where time was going, how I was relating to it...
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: and part of that was waking 'first thing' and rather than getting up into the busyness of the day....
Eliza Madrigal: *starting* in a pause
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Eliza Madrigal: We've talked a little about this in other settings, but for me it is kind of a dwelling on 'timelessness'...
Gaya Ethaniel: Kind of making daily commitment in each morning?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Early morning Wu wei?
Gaya Ethaniel: On waking ...
Eliza Madrigal: YES
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: On waking ... touch base ... :)
Eliza Madrigal: The thing is... we do this as a matter of intention... and at some point it can flip....
Eliza Madrigal: that the intention is set
Gaya Ethaniel: flip?
Eliza Madrigal: and that's what it was like, this morning.... woke up into it without intending anything....
Gaya Ethaniel: ah I see
Eliza Madrigal: and it felt so natural, getting up that way, that I almost forgot I ever have intentions...
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes it takes some practice ... making daily commitment to fall into it naturally I'm sure.
Gaya Ethaniel: snap :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Gaya Ethaniel: Took about 6 months for you then?
Eliza Madrigal: Well, I wasn't completely consistent....
Eliza Madrigal: so not exactly sure :)
Gaya Ethaniel shrugs. That's natural too ...
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: afk again
Gaya Ethaniel: ok
Gaya Ethaniel: I've been reminding myself 'patience' since last WoK each morning.
Gaya Ethaniel: Nothing exciting to report yet :P
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Patience seems an expression of timelessness....
Eliza Madrigal: no hurry
Agatha Macbeth: back (again)
Gaya Ethaniel: wb :)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha, Ag... making a pie?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes there is 'time' factor in patience ...
Agatha Macbeth: No, just getting something to drink :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Though I'm not approaching in from that angle specifically.
Eliza Madrigal listens
Gaya Ethaniel: Stick to the government guidelines on units Agatha.
Agatha Macbeth: It's only Red Bull [grin]
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Eliza Madrigal: eeek
Agatha Macbeth: Cools me down
Eliza Madrigal thinks Ag might benefit from patience meditation :)
Gaya Ethaniel expects to see Agatha flying off the cushion at any moment.
Agatha Macbeth: I can't sit still long enough ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahha
Gaya Ethaniel: I've never had Red Bull ...
Eliza Madrigal: its the devil....
Agatha Macbeth: Oh it's lovely
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Gaya Ethaniel: What exactly is it?
Agatha Macbeth: Gives me the wind tho
Agatha Macbeth looks at the can
Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder where aga´s horns are
Gaya Ethaniel: Agatha I was just sipping my water ... almost spat onto my screen ....
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, lots of long words I can't read
Gaya Ethaniel: rofl
Agatha Macbeth: Well at least it's clean now Gaya :)
Eliza Madrigal: What is worse, caffeine charge wise, is something called 'bawls' that someone gave me once... felt as though my ears were in the back of my head... so tense...
Agatha Macbeth: Who needs Mr Muscle?
Gaya Ethaniel: I swallowed ok ... bad timing really to encounter a funny joke while drinking water.
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Eliza Madrigal: instead of being productive I was completely paralyzed...
Agatha Macbeth: Can't remember what i said that was funny?
Gaya Ethaniel makes a mental note: don't drink water when Agatha is around ...
Agatha Macbeth: Or anything else...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yeah...caffeine I know that one
Gaya Ethaniel: Actually I can't drink coffee anymore either Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: and 'guarana' I think too... Ag
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't that a lizard?
Agatha Macbeth: No, that's iguana
Eliza Madrigal would love to give up coffee.. or at least dependency on it....
Agatha Macbeth: Guess we all need our drugs
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Like PaB...
Agatha Macbeth: We're all PaB-junkies
Eliza Madrigal: ".... have .... to.... pause...."
Gaya Ethaniel ponders.

--BELL--

Gaya Ethaniel: Do you find missing not doing pauses then Agatha?
Agatha Macbeth: It's finding pauses long enough to pause in :D
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I don't really pause ... I guess my 'pauses' are just a bit longer.
Agatha Macbeth: Timeless ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: I like to take the little pauses from the big one...
Agatha Macbeth: Cats pause...
Gaya Ethaniel: Interesting ...
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Ewan :)
Ewan Bonham: Hello
Gaya Ethaniel: Though after I first found PaB, I did pause regularly throughout the day.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ewan
Ewan Bonham: and good morning
Gaya Ethaniel: For a good few months.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Ewan :)
Agatha Macbeth: Did you notice any benefit Gaya?
Eliza Madrigal: Did it help you to get into a routine, Gaya, to look for pausing 'regularly' ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi ewan
Yakuzza Lethecus: did anone try eos app ?
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes it was very helpful. Around that time, I had stopped sitting for a while and I guess it started to help me to get back into practice again.
Eliza Madrigal: He hasn't made it Ya... that I know of... is an idea he thinks of
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's nice Gaya
Agatha Macbeth: What's that then?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes, the routine aspect was also helpful Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: I think that's why pab pauses resonated with me... that my practice started that way "Just notice your breath"... then noticing more and more
Eliza Madrigal: Oh... re the ap. You were reading the WG minutes, Ya?
Agatha Macbeth is lost
Ewan Bonham: That is a good summary of my daily minfulness meditation, Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Eos has an idea of our being able to signal one another at any time... when taking a pause... for others to join in
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza Madrigal: like a little phone or watch app
Agatha Macbeth: Synchronised pausing?
Ewan Bonham: That would a nice idea
Gaya Ethaniel: It was good to have friends to talk about experiences from pauses too so it was a combination of practice and community.
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: positive and intentional peer pressure :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I think Moon or Fael made a PaB watch ....
Gaya Ethaniel: pressure?
Agatha Macbeth: Strange, last night at the Dream Workshop we were on about synchronised dreaming
Ewan Bonham: And peer support
Eliza Madrigal: well, peer... yes support is a better word
Eliza Madrigal: I have teens, so 'peer pressure' is the term used most often at that stage of life :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I only have the female version.
Ewan Bonham: Synchronized dreaming?
Eliza Madrigal: Oooh Ag, that sounds neat
Eliza Madrigal: TY Gaya :))
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, people sharing the same dream space
Agatha Macbeth: Fox says she and her hubby have done it
Yakuzza Lethecus: is there one for males ?
Ewan Bonham: Is thi long a gong?
Gaya Ethaniel: Please ask Fael about it Yaku.
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Let me ask her ... one moment.
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I love that. I've felt to do something like that before, but no 'confirmations'
Ewan Bonham: I mean like a gong?
Eliza Madrigal: (re dreaming)
Eliza Madrigal: I think its possible... think we don't always do it at the same time...
Eliza Madrigal: our minds don't have to stay in our heads perhaps... hahahah
Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps that's just as well :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: TY Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: So the watch will sound for all to hear... or just give a message on screen?
Yakuzza Lethecus: thx gaya
Agatha Macbeth: What d'you actually do with it?
Ewan Bonham: was wondering also of its presence
Gaya Ethaniel: I'm not sure ... let's see :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) pab spirit....
Agatha Macbeth: Is it a HUD thing?
Gaya Ethaniel: I think you just wear it Agatha.
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, would have preferred the ladies' version [cough]
Gaya Ethaniel: I gave you both ...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too
Agatha Macbeth: I only have the mens
Gaya Ethaniel: Just sent another one ...
Ewan Bonham: I will try it out
Gaya Ethaniel: So that you can pass them around :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah thanks :)
Agatha Macbeth: Better...
Eliza Madrigal: after we see, I'll have to get going... have an ao to try to buy again and then will play as working...
Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Have fun Eliza [in advance] :)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks :)))
Ewan Bonham: nice seeing you Eliza...:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Liz, take care

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Great to see everyone!
Eliza Madrigal: Oh!
Gaya Ethaniel: Nice gong :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wow! Big Ben
Eliza Madrigal: there it goes
Gaya Ethaniel: Good day everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste
Agatha Macbeth looks for Trevor MacDonald
Ewan Bonham: Bye Agatha
Yakuzza Lethecus: trevor macdonald ?
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Byzee bye
Eliza Madrigal: Ring the bells... that still can ring...
Gaya Ethaniel: bfn :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone