2010.07.28 07:00 - July Dream Circle

The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lucinda :) Nice landing...
Lucinda Lavender: Hi! Thanks...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Eliza and Lucinda :)
Gaya Ethaniel: .
Eliza Madrigal: zooming in... you're wearing sunglasses Lucinda!
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Lucinda Lavender: Yes...I was testing things from the inventory and now I cannot seem to remove them
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if I should move my spot... have a few dreams and the number of participants will determine which I share... hah
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Sharon and Zen :)
Eliza Madrigal: they look cute
Eliza Madrigal: Zen! :))
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon and Zen
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Gaya, Eliza, Lucinda and Zen :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Zen!
Zen Arado: Hi all
Eliza Madrigal wishes she had a hug animation. So nice to have you back, Zen
Lucinda Lavender: HI Sophia!
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Zen!
Gaya Ethaniel: Right click on the glasses and select detach if you'd like Lucinda.

--BELL--

Zen Arado: thanks
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes lovely to see you again Zen.
Zen Arado: didn't know I was so huggable :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I was trying that...but to see them is hard...
SophiaSharon Larnia: I hope you are feeling better, caught up on sleep too
Zen Arado: bit low on energy still
Lucinda Lavender: oh! how simple!
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Zen Arado: but otherwise ok
Eliza Madrigal: understandable
Gaya Ethaniel: OK let's take a moment first ...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Whenever you're ready Sharon, we start ... :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh!
Eliza Madrigal: May I ask how many have a dream to share?
SophiaSharon Larnia: a have just a piece of one
Zen Arado: I have one
SophiaSharon Larnia: I was laying in a field and I knew when I go up that I had several directions I could go, I couldn't decide which one
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Archmage :) We are holding our monthly Dream Circle. Eliza will give you a notecard.
Lucinda Lavender: I do not have one...
SophiaSharon Larnia: that it :P
Zen Arado: Hi Arch
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Arch
Lucinda Lavender: Hi arch
Archmage Atlantis: ty , Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: :) @ Sharon
Eliza Madrigal: Okay... mine is:
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Zen, Lucinda, Eliza, SophiaShron
SophiaSharon Larnia: (passes stone)
SophiaSharon Larnia: to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: TY Sharon :)
Eliza Madrigal: It is a little long... hopefully not too much so...
Zen Arado: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I am driving, with an elegant older friend and a few others. We are going to a club of some sort. Driving through the parking lot there are homeless people scattered about.
Eliza Madrigal: I know somehow that they are very religious and very smart. One guy has beads around his neck, and is being very aggressive at the car window that we have to buy beads or he is going to harass us endlessly.
Eliza Madrigal: I reach down into the car and pull up lots and lots of beads to show him. “Look!”I say to him, “I have tons of beads if I wanted to I would put them up all over.”
Eliza Madrigal: Then I hang them on the rear view mirror and he loses interest in us and moves on to another car.
Eliza Madrigal: End. Pass the stone to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Eliza :)
Gaya Ethaniel: At a temple, I’m sitting at the back of a main hall among a large congregation. It’s brightly lit and beautifully decorated with paintings and statues. In the upper part of the hall, an old monk, surrounded by other monks, is reading out loud from a book. I’m rather taken aback by something he reads. I consider it for a moment and decide that it’s not true.
Gaya Ethaniel: Outside by the temple’s shop, I’m buying a copy of the book. I shake my head in disbelief, recalling the phrase. There is a sudden panic all around. Looking up, sky is darkening. Clouds condense and form into a fierce warrior figure with his huge eyes cast downwards. A large ancient tree by outer walls begins to deform and turns into an evil looking head of a bird, twisting this way and that. The place is now a chaos with people running to all directions, screaming.
Gaya Ethaniel: Longer than Eliza ^^;;;
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Lucinda :)
Lucinda Lavender: thank you gaya...I pass the stone to Zen
Zen Arado: I am in my grandmother's back yard. She had a little terrace house near the Belfast Gasworks that had a high stone wall and an embankment that led to railway tracks. I seem to be living there. Two guys climb over the wall and start giving me a lot of abuse and wrecking things.
Zen Arado: I call the police and this burly man arrives, dressed in plain clothes - a white shirt with sleeves rolled up and a waistcoat. He beats the two guys up and they run away. The man tells me he used to be in gangs when he was young and so knows how to deal with guys like that.
Zen Arado: pass to Arch
Gaya Ethaniel: I IMed Arch but no response ... perhaps he's afk.
Archmage Atlantis: I am unsure what to do........I have dreams nightly, as well as waking dreams......I did not pick one not realizing this meeting exists.....in fact, this moment
Gaya Ethaniel: You can share one or just participate without one Arch.
Gaya Ethaniel: What would you like to do?
Archmage Atlantis: feels like a waking dream
Archmage Atlantis: Share
Lucinda Lavender: Arch, this is your turn to say a dream if you have one...you may say an image that comes up from your dreams if you want
Gaya Ethaniel: Please go ahead then :)
Eliza Madrigal: we first share a dream, or not, then the second time around we give thoughts but not interpretations of each others' dreams not our own
Lucinda Lavender: we will make the first round of hearing all dreams and then give each dream some turns
Archmage Atlantis: An old childhood dream, that sometimes returns in other settings and forms........I am outside in an open wooded area, near a village in the Scottish Highlands
Archmage Atlantis: I am alone, and I know I will not be allowed to return to the warmth of the village as I have displeased them.......
Archmage Atlantis: It is early winter, near the solstice, and I wait for something.....I do not know what
Archmage Atlantis: That's is where I usually wake up
Eliza Madrigal: (now say "pass the stone to Sharon" arch, thanks :)
Archmage Atlantis: Pass the stone to Sharon (ty Eliza)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: May I interject an image now..
Eliza Madrigal: sure!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Zen Arado: of course
Lucinda Lavender: I had this dream on June 2...In a steep narrow valley waling with someone. There are many rocks on the ground.
Lucinda Lavender: Next there is a fire place mantel which is being made...arching sets of stone...
Lucinda Lavender: I pass to Sophia
Gaya Ethaniel: waling - crying?
Lucinda Lavender: valley
Lucinda Lavender: walking
Gaya Ethaniel: ok thanks
SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not sure how to proceed here, my impression?
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you repeat your dream :)
Lucinda Lavender: Sophia...you may restate yours and we respond
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bruce :) We are holding our monthly Dream Circle. Eliza will give you a notecard. I will IM you where we are now.
Zen Arado: Hi Bruce
SophiaSharon Larnia: I was laying in a field, and knew there were several directions I could get up and walk, was deciding which one
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bruce
SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds simple, but the dilemma in the dream was prolonged :)
Zen Arado: is it Eliza first to comment?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes
Archmage Atlantis: Is it ok to ask a question of Sophia?
Gaya Ethaniel: I IMed Arch :)
Eliza Madrigal: Much to read here, to get a better idea of the flow...
Archmage Atlantis: Ty, Gaya cleared things fo0r me
Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Dream_Circle
Eliza Madrigal: Funny that I imposed flowers into the dream, the first time Sharon shared it. A field is 'open' and the feeling is that the openness presents the dilemma.. so many directions/options ...
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: It seems simple, but it is the simplicity that makes the complication in a way :)
Eliza Madrigal: Pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Eliza :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Rather than feeling agitated, I sensed the deliciousness of lying there, not feeling the need to get up as in making mind up to go to a certain direction.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: it reminds me that the more I try to control things in my life the more decisions and complications appear
Zen Arado: better to just relax into things and the right path will appear....
Zen Arado: pass to Arch
Archmage Atlantis: My question was, Sophia, when the dream ended, had you made a decision?
Archmage Atlantis: The thought I had
SophiaSharon Larnia: no :) I spent some time afterward thinking i didnt want to decide
SophiaSharon Larnia: and by waking up, i did
Archmage Atlantis: was that there is a certain luxury in not making a decision, that luxury has value....it also has the risk of becoming a state of stasis

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: In that I share Zen's though that the path will appear
Zen Arado: but often if we wait a little the way that feels entirely right appears...
Archmage Atlantis: To whom do I pass the stone now?
Eliza Madrigal: Arch, pass to Lucinda...
Zen Arado: we get out of the way of ourselves
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Passes the stone to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: I am reminded in hearing this dream of the idea that when we are lying horizontal on the ground..we are closer to the earth and perhaps listening to the earth...
Lucinda Lavender: there is a sense of dreaming that lying there is giving...listening to possibility
Lucinda Lavender: I pass the stone to Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: now comment on Eliza's dream?
Lucinda Lavender: yes if there are no more comments
Eliza Madrigal: first I have to reshare I think...
Eliza Madrigal: then start with gaya?
Gaya Ethaniel: Any more comments on Sophia's dream?
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok :)
Eliza Madrigal: Just one that I am struck by 'path' so far in all our dreams... that's it :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Why don't you just share again then Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: okay...
Eliza Madrigal: I am driving, with an elegant older friend and a few others. We are going to a club of some sort. Driving through the parking lot there are homeless people scattered about. I know somehow that they are very religious and very smart. One guy has beads around his neck, and is being very aggressive at the car window that we have to buy beads or he is going to harass us endlessly.
Eliza Madrigal: I reach down into the car and pull up lots and lots of beads to show him. “Look!” I say to him, “I have tons of beads if I wanted to I would put them up all over.”Then I hang them on the rear view mirror and he loses interest in us and moves on to another car.
Metafire Horsley: whinnys!
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Metafire :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Metafire :) Let me IM you about our group etc.
Metafire Horsley: ^^^ thx
Eliza Madrigal has given Meta a note about dream circle today, too
SophiaSharon Larnia: my first impression here Eliza, was chaos
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Eliza :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: someone giving you what you already have
Gaya Ethaniel: I think it's important to keep the flow going so shall I start commenting on Eliza's first?
SophiaSharon Larnia: oops
Eliza Madrigal: :) no worries, we're all learning
Gaya Ethaniel: Bad me, I should have sent a notice out to the group in advance.
SophiaSharon Larnia: listens
Gaya Ethaniel: Just re-reading Eliza's dream ...
Gaya Ethaniel: What struck me was the image of so many beads that Eliza pulls out. I wondered what these beads mean because it was eagerly sold to everyone.
Gaya Ethaniel: I was impressed by how Eliza persuaded the man to move onto the next car.
Gaya Ethaniel: I also note that some people are in cars. In groups ... and there are people standing outside, offering something to people in cars.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: two things struck me. The first was about how the first settlers gave beads to Native Americans
Zen Arado: and perhaps there is a residual collective guilt Eliza feels - if such a thing exists
Zen Arado: the second was about Jesus talking about 'casting pearls to swine'
Zen Arado: meaning perhaps you worry about how much people listen to what you say Eliza?
Zen Arado: passes stone to Arch
Archmage Atlantis: My sense was that Eliza had long ago considered all the options the people outside the car were offering...And annoyed at being treated as if she hadn't ever considered those, or owned those, beads already.
Archmage Atlantis: Passes stone to Lucinda (I think)
Lucinda Lavender: yes Arch...
Lucinda Lavender: The vehicle give me pause...we enter them to move...
Lucinda Lavender: and here as it is paused there is the idea that we already have so much...

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: I will pass the stone to meta who is invited to respond to this dream from a universal view if it is perceived...and the meta can pass to Sophia when done.
Metafire Horsley: Ok, what I have come up after a while is that there seems to be a theme of misunderstanding. Like people think they know what all other people want or need, but often that's not true, because different people have different needs. In that dream the religious people might have assumed that people need to have as many beans as possible, but that's not true, because some may already have enough for some reason.
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Metafire Horsley: But I really can't tell what the beans stand for if anything.
Metafire Horsley passes the stone to Sophia
Gaya Ethaniel: Beads like prayer beads I think right Eliza?
SophiaSharon Larnia: I've commented, I just wonder what the beads represent, ideas, social constructs maybe, anything :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes stone to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Ty everyone. Yes.. they are prayer/mantra beads like for 'accumulation'... Pass to Gaya to reshare :)
Gaya Ethaniel: At a temple, I’m sitting at the back of a main hall among a large congregation. It’s brightly lit and beautifully decorated with paintings and statues. In the upper part of the hall, an old monk, surrounded by other monks, is reading out loud from a book. I’m rather taken aback by something he reads. I consider it for a moment and decide that it’s not true.
Gaya Ethaniel: Outside by the temple’s shop, I’m buying a copy of the book. I shake my head in disbelief, recalling the phrase. There is a sudden panic all around. Looking up, sky is darkening. Clouds condense and form into a fierce warrior figure with his huge eyes cast downwards. A large ancient tree by outer walls begins to deform and turns into an evil looking head of a bird, twisting this way and that. The place is now a chaos with people running to all directions, screaming.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: hmmm.....seems the warrior figure is annoyed by the somehow trivialising of what the temple represents by the commerce of bookselling.....reminds me of a Christian image again....Jesus throwing the money chargers out of the temple
Zen Arado: pass to Arch
Archmage Atlantis: The appearance of the "fierce" warrior figure and the changing of the tree, and the general sense of evil seem related to what Gaya saw as and incorrect reading.
Archmage Atlantis: Passes the stone to Lucinda.
Lucinda Lavender: Sense that fear is contagious...things transform in our view because of it...pass to Meta:)
Metafire Horsley: I had the impression that the monk recited a prophecy about what will happen in the future. And that it would be exactly that what happened at the end of the dream: Some kind of beginning of the end of days.
Metafire Horsley: Maybe that dreams was some kind of visualisation of a rather absurd scenario: What if some weird religious prophecies about the end of days were actually true. Usually people tend not to believe them and think they are false.
Metafire Horsley passes stone to Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: I felt that we have to consider what we are taught, including from others that we consider authorities on the subject.
SophiaSharon Larnia: i sense the inner conflict in this dream with doing that
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes the stone to. Eliza :) I think Zen dream is next
Eliza Madrigal: The feeling for me is that the beautiful setting has been undone by questioning the interpretation of the regarded figure. There is a sense of individuality in the dream, that each person must discern for themselves and to many people this is frightening. A warrior usually has a sword, and the sword cuts through the outer appearances perhaps, revealing something more unique. Personal responsibility. They want for order, creates chaos for many.
Eliza Madrigal: Pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Visitor :) Let me give you an intro about our group in IM.
Zen Arado: have we time to do my dream?
Eliza Madrigal: I can stay a bit, sure Zen
Gaya Ethaniel: Me too :)

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: Me also :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: me too :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Zen Arado: I am in my grandmother's back yard. She had a little terrace house near the Belfast Gasworks that had a high stone wall and an embankment that led to railway tracks. I seem to be living there. Two guys climb over the wall and start giving me a lot of abuse and wrecking things.
Zen Arado: I call the police and this burly man arrives, dressed in plain clothes - a white shirt with sleeves rolled up and a waistcoat. He beats the two guys up and they run away. The man tells me he used to be in gangs when he was young and so knows how to deal with guys like that.
Zen Arado: pass to Arch
Archmage Atlantis: I am having difficulty forming words for thoughts about this dream
Archmage Atlantis: I will pass the stone to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: I find the burly man interesting...white shirt and waistcoat...
Lucinda Lavender: Perhaps his awareness about boundaries is controlling the scene
Lucinda Lavender: containing the consciousness of those who cross boundaries
Lucinda Lavender: I pass to Meta
Metafire Horsley: There is this idea that the people who will actually help you aren't always the people you would expect helping you.
Metafire Horsley passes the stone to Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: I feel the felt vulnerability in this, of not feeling quite safe.
SophiaSharon Larnia: and like Meta said, finding strength in unexpected places
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes the stone to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: The setting is interesting... familiar, comfortable. Then these intruders and a feeling of powerlessness and confusion. The walls are not protecting as they appear to be.
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: Another warrior in this dream, and that's interesting. He is a modern figure of 'now' in the middle of a feeling of 'past.' And, he learned his skills in a group/gang. The clothes seem significant. White representing perhaps surrender and allowing.
Zen Arado: Hi Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus whispers hi
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Yaku :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ya, and passes the stone to Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I think my comments are somewhat similar. Zen calls the police and someone looking unlikely turns up instead. Moreover, he used to be in a gang and learnt these useful skills.
Gaya Ethaniel: And he's now a protective figure instead of a gang member - perhaps the colour of his shirt? And his attires are formal yet relaxed, in some sense a nice combination of the two.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: interesting comments :)
Zen Arado: passes to Arch
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Archmage Atlantis: It is an old childhood dream,  that sometimes returns in other settings and forms........I am outside in an open wooded area, near a village in the Scottish Highlands I am alone, and I know I will not be allowed to return to the warmth of the village as I have displeased them....... It is early winter, near the solstice, and I wait for something.....I do not know what That is where I usually wake up
Archmage Atlantis: Passes stone to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: This setting feels sort of similar the one from my dream images...I am interested in it being near the solstice at early winter. Just struck by that being mentioned.
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Meta
Metafire Horsley: Well, in this situation Arch seems to have been left alone by the villagers, because they had inappropriate standard or something.
Metafire Horsley: The waiting seems to indicate a rather passive attitude like he usually waits for others doing something and react afterwards.
Metafire Horsley: All alone on his own he still does what he usually does, because he has no idea what else to do. What other alternatives there are. That's why we wakes up at that point: He can't come up with a viable option.
Metafire Horsley passes stone to Sophia

--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: I felt a long time of waiting, and patience with that too.
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes the stone to Eliza
Gaya Ethaniel: Metafire ... is it ok to record your name and comments on our wiki? I asked in IM but perhaps you haven't seen it yet.
Metafire Horsley: Ah, yes, sorry. Haven't seen that. Yes, it's ok.
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
Eliza Madrigal: Arch is in an open area as SophiaSharon too, but it seems confusing because there is the feeling of belonging but the appearance of being not welcomed. Winter is cold, but one is near to warmth and turning... a sense of coming back again and agagin to a transition/between place. I don't have the feeling of knowing that one 'wants' to return...
Eliza Madrigal: but he has the village always in sight. Pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: The village is a space enclosed off from the open forest in which Arch is standing. In a drastic change [sent out of the village], Arch waits patiently and opening up and listening out.
Gaya Ethaniel: It's almost the time where things change over. Nothing stays the same and it seems that Arch knows this and let things to appear.
Gaya Ethaniel: Warmth will begin to rise again sure enough.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: get a feeling of a racial memory again - and the Highlanders were chased off their land by the English - many immigrated to America.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Ewan :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan :)
Metafire Horsley: hi Ewan :)
Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks!
Zen Arado: Perhaps this is intertwined with a present day feeling of exclusion which only has to be seen through by waiting patiently?
Eliza Madrigal gives Ewan a note about dream circle
Zen Arado: passes to Arch
Lucinda Lavender: I also have something more to say...
Archmage Atlantis: TY all, ....passes stone to Lucinda
Archmage Atlantis: ok
Lucinda Lavender: I was thinking about how perhaps this is a very old story ...
Ewan Bonham: OK, with no offense, should I leave for now?
Gaya Ethaniel: Not at all Ewan :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: no Ewan :))
Ewan Bonham: OK
Eliza Madrigal: You can stay and listen Ewan, and when Meta passes the stone to you, just say "pass to Sharon"
Lucinda Lavender: ages old...in which a wise person moves toward nature for a place to be...
Lucinda Lavender: the awareness of displeasure on the part of the village is connected to having the awareness of what lies outside the village...
Lucinda Lavender: in the place where one can work on relation to being.
Gaya Ethaniel: I IMed Ewan with Arch's dream in case he wants to comment.
Lucinda Lavender: We are learning to see beyond the village attitudes and masks there
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: beyond the judgements
Lucinda Lavender: it feels like an old story that is newly brought up
Lucinda Lavender: Are there any other comments on this dream?
Gaya Ethaniel: Not me
Eliza Madrigal: not here, thank you lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Ewan?
Archmage Atlantis: ty Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: If not I will restate my dream images
Gaya Ethaniel: ok :)
Archmage Atlantis: Pls do so
Ewan Bonham: Sorry, almost crashed.
Lucinda Lavender: Dream from June 2, Moon Aquarius, Power day dream...
Eliza Madrigal: no worries, Lucinda is sharing her dream and the stone will come to you after Meta, Ewan :)
Ewan Bonham: Just listening at this point
Lucinda Lavender: In a steep and narrow valley...walking with someone...There are many roclks on the ground good sized granite I would suppose.
Lucinda Lavender: I think we were headed up the valley...
Lucinda Lavender: The next image is of a beautiful mantle for a fire place.
Lucinda Lavender: It is made of stone brick and in an arching shape...
Lucinda Lavender: end of dream Pass to Meta
Lucinda Lavender: Oh...there was a fire there...

--BELL--

Metafire Horsley: I was reminded of a similar dream I had myself. I was in a group of young students and were walking through various landscapes and there was a similar fireplace, too. But probably only roughly similar. And maybe I'm just making this up, I'm not sure.
Metafire Horsley: Anyway, maybe there is a message in the dream that difficult voyages will finally be rewarded.
Metafire Horsley: And that sometimes even rather plain useful objects can be made in a rather beautiful way.
Metafire Horsley passes the stone to Ewan
Ewan Bonham: Thank you
Ewan Bonham: I have had a recurrent dream over the years.
Ewan Bonham: it feels as tho I know things that are not in the dream as if I have been living this life the whole time
Ewan Bonham: I am someone else in the dream and someone with some reputation
Ewan Bonham: But then I am told or 'know'
Ewan Bonham: that i can not return to my home.
Ewan Bonham: I don't know why.
Ewan Bonham: I feel much sadness
Ewan Bonham: But almost a sense of understanding
Ewan Bonham: As if i really know why I can not return
Ewan Bonham: That is the end of the dream
Gaya Ethaniel: Any comments on Lucinda's dream Ewan?
Ewan Bonham: Oh, I am sorry.
SophiaSharon Larnia: np Ewan :)
Eliza Madrigal: Not at all, we're learning :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I'm not sure if we have time to comment on yours today Ewan ... perhaps you can retell it next month?
Ewan Bonham: Yes, i had the thought that wisdom may speak to you in the form of very common objects
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ewan Bonham: pass the stone
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: I am thinking of the imagery of the dream, a steep, narrow valley, and the shape of the mantle (but reversed). I'm not sure what that means, except in a noticing patterns kind of way.
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes the stone to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Somehow the rocks, the walls, the beads, the village boundaries... all seem to say something similar.
Eliza Madrigal: There is a sense of knowing/ developing trust in one's own discernment. In Sharon's dream, it is like the openness is the wall. In Lucinda's dream there is a valley and archway that gives structure to a warm path. The fire... the path is something living... And I appreciate Meta's sense of what is basic as beautiful.
Metafire Horsley: :)
Eliza Madrigal: pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: I am reminded of Korea, listening to this dream. In the hills when hiking, one would find mounds of stones that are made up over the years by many people placing a stone and making a wish. I cannot tell how people pick those places but sometimes they also have shrines of various sizes nearby, small cave like as in the fireplace Lucinda describes.
Gaya Ethaniel: To get to the place, Lucinda and the friend had to walk, making efforts, and immerse in the nature. And there is a fire lit within that place.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Zen.
Zen Arado: Seems to me to be about how though we seem to live narrow lives with so many constraints and few alternative options - out of living that life carefully and well, and with the help of others, something beautiful can emerge....
Zen Arado: Like Eliza I also get a feeling in these dreams of either being too hemmed in by boundaries or being too open and exposed and wondering what to do about it.....
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Zen Arado: pass stone to Arch

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: As to Lucinda's dream, the things that have been shared about the difficult path leading to beauty, the beauty to be uncovered and created from basic things.....this seem to agree with my thoughts
Archmage Atlantis: I also agree with Eliza
Gaya Ethaniel: I think that is the end for this session ... :)
Archmage Atlantis: on the general theme of today
Gaya Ethaniel: Thank you so much everyone for participating.
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you everyone for your thoughts ^^
Gaya Ethaniel: I look forward to our next month's gathering.
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you gaya, and everyone for staying for a long session
Zen Arado: thanks everyone for interesting insights
Lucinda Lavender: I am thinking about these dreams as beads on a string...or stone bricks in the arch..thank you every one!
Archmage Atlantis: This has been a session of great value to me
Archmage Atlantis: Thank you all
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Ewan Bonham: ty , very enlightening
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes Lucinda... and an inner fire (place) which helps us to appreciate and discern :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks!
Archmage Atlantis: Bye all
Eliza Madrigal: Bye everyone! See you very soon
Lucinda Lavender: bye all leaving
Zen Arado: bye everyone
SophiaSharon Larnia: waves to everyone :)
Ewan Bonham: bye for now
Eliza Madrigal: :::waving and scurrying::::
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza