2010.12.02 13:00 - These issues of the heart

The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Bartram.
Bartram Fenstalker: Mr. Mowbry, are you the host of this meeting?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I've just claimed this session.
Bruce Mowbray: Have you been here before, Bart?
Bartram Fenstalker: Oh good, I can talk......never had to do that before
Bruce Mowbray: You are most welcome to talk!
Bartram Fenstalker: Arch has......he gave me permission to appear
Bruce Mowbray: Arch is a fried -- and a warrior, too.
Bruce Mowbray: friend, I meant.
Bruce Mowbray: sometimes a fried friend.
Bartram Fenstalker: Also fried :)
Bruce Mowbray: ha!
Bruce Mowbray: So, you do understand (from Arch) that what we say in chat is posted to a web page wiki?
Bruce Mowbray: and is that OK with you?
Bartram Fenstalker: I would not be here if I did not understand the rules
Bartram Fenstalker: This is a month of alt exploration
Bartram Fenstalker: I am an alt
Bruce Mowbray: I do understand - now - that you understand, and would not be here myself without such understanding.
Bartram Fenstalker: I have come to explore
Bruce Mowbray: exploring is good.
Bruce Mowbray: May it be a life-long process.  Open heart -- open mind.
Bartram Fenstalker: You knew the word I attempted
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bartram Fenstalker: Didn't fall into that
Bruce Mowbray: but you appear about to fall into the fountain. . .
Bruce Mowbray: Are felines that comfortable with water?
Bartram Fenstalker: A snow leopard is not a domestic cat
Bruce Mowbray: Oh --?
Bruce Mowbray: Shall I chase them out of my living room, then?
Bartram Fenstalker: Odd comment
Bruce Mowbray: Odd to have them in my living room, also. climbing on the sofa, etc.
Qt Core: Hi all
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Qt.
Bartram Fenstalker: The small one old one is here with me
Bruce Mowbray: How are things in Milano, Qt?
Bartram Fenstalker: There is a reference to QT in the brain pan......So I should say hello
Qt Core: quite quiet, approaching the "official" start of Christmas shopping ;-)
Bartram Fenstalker: Hello, QT
Qt Core: hi Bart
Bartram Fenstalker: Bartram, please
Qt Core: ok, sorry
Qt Core: and how are things on your farm, Bruce ?
Bruce Mowbray: quite cold here.
Bruce Mowbray: thanks, but my dog still prefers to stay outside -- all day and all night.
Bruce Mowbray: He's such a trooper.
Bartram Fenstalker: Yes, are there things to hunt?
Bruce Mowbray: many varieties of snow leopards here, Bart.
Bruce Mowbray: Fortunately, neither my dog nor I are hunters.

--BELL–

Qt Core: probably colder than there but here it is quite cold for early December with temp as low as -2/-4C in the night
Qt Core: colder than there should be read warmer than there
Bartram Fenstalker: My people are from a cold place
Bartram Fenstalker: Sorry, I forget you humans think of us as unaware
Bruce Mowbray thinks of absolutely NOTHING as unaware.
Bruce Mowbray: (except perhaps for a snow leopard who is about to fall into the fountain).
Qt Core: while sometimes I think even some humans are unaware ;-)
Zon Kwan: heya
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zon.
Qt Core: hi Zon
Bruce Mowbray: Have you all heard that Aggers is out of the hospital?
Qt Core: didn't even knew it went into one!
Bruce Mowbray: She was in hospital for two weeks - unable to connect with SL.
Qt Core: but still glad she is out :-)
Bruce Mowbray: yes. . . a close call.
Bruce Mowbray: I put up the poster to welcome her back, but so far she's not made it here.
Qt Core: oops, now I'm the unaware one, haven't noticed the change in poster
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Yaku!
Zon Kwan: Yaku
Qt Core: Hi Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey, good evening everyone
Bartram Fenstalker: Hello, Alfred......
Alfred Kelberry: hello people :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Alfred!
Alfred Kelberry: hmm, nice tiger :)

Zon Kwan: Alf
Bruce Mowbray: leopard, Al.
Bartram Fenstalker: leopard, but still feline. so ok
Alfred Kelberry: ah, ok
Bruce Mowbray: snow leopard, to be more exact. . . and exactly like the ones sleeping on my living room sofa.
Alfred Kelberry: *touches the fur*
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello bleu
Bartram Fenstalker: Go back to your corner, Alf.....and thank you
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Bleu!
Alfred Kelberry: I like how your paws are moving when you type :)
Alfred Kelberry: no corners in the circle :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bartram Fenstalker: funny that
Zon Kwan: bleu
Alfred Kelberry: hmm, has the pool been altered?
Qt Core: Hi Bleu
Alfred Kelberry: bleu :)
Bruce Mowbray: Looking gorgeous tonight, Bleu -- as usual.
Bleu Levasseur: haha, ty Bruce
Bartram Fenstalker: I didn't pee in it if that is what you mean, Alf
Alfred Kelberry: *sees the bling on bleu's neck* :)
Bleu Levasseur: naughty kitty
Bleu Levasseur: ah
Bleu Levasseur: shall I take it off?
Bleu Levasseur: some places ask you to
Alfred Kelberry: bart, I mean, steps
Bruce Mowbray: No -- the bling is fine --
Bleu Levasseur: ok
Bruce Mowbray is looking for his own bling. . .
Alfred Kelberry: I like your bling, bleu :)
Bleu Levasseur: :)
Bruce Mowbray thinks - Bling's the thing.
Alfred Kelberry: the pool has steps now
Bleu Levasseur: my silly laptop said that Aph had just come online :(
Bartram Fenstalker: Arch did get the msg correct....it is an exploration of alts.........or am I just a freak
Bleu Levasseur: but she is permanently online
Alfred Kelberry: well, handy for those deciding to take a seat in the pool :)
Bruce Mowbray: well. . . Aph will appear to be online -- because she's always on-line.
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, I am not sure about the step. I suspect Bartram is getting a very cold butt atm
Alfred Kelberry: oh, wait... new poster?
Bruce Mowbray: so if you are Aph's 'friend,' you will see that she's always there.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I made the poster for Aggers.
Bruce Mowbray: She's been in hospital for two weeks.
Bleu Levasseur: but Aph just popped up in chat window
Alfred Kelberry: did she fall the victim of the sl trap, too?
Bruce Mowbray: unable to connect with SL.
Bleu Levasseur: which hasn't happened for ages
Bleu Levasseur: I know
Bleu Levasseur: she gets my messages tho
Alfred Kelberry: oh, is she ok?
Bleu Levasseur: via her e mail
Bleu Levasseur: she's fine
Alfred Kelberry: ok, good
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, she's doing fine now (Aggers, I mean.)
Bleu Levasseur: laughing at me for being pathetic about the snow in London
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Al -- Those are coleus from my doorway. . . (on the poster)
Alfred Kelberry: please tell her best wishes from boxy and others :)
Bleu Levasseur: will do!
Alfred Kelberry: wow, looks lovely, Bruce!
Bruce Mowbray: a very simple but beautiful flower, no?
Alfred Kelberry: bright and cheering :)
Bruce Mowbray: I agree - just the "thing" for greeting folks coming in or out.
Alfred Kelberry: perfect for aga's return :)

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: *likes the brown pot*
Bartram Fenstalker: Coleus - a plant grown in horticulture for it's colored and interesting leaves (coloured by you in UK)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bleu Levasseur: in your face cheery!
Bleu Levasseur: hate plant snobbery
Bartram Fenstalker: I am a decision point
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: ah, right, I know recognize your av from the mac os leopard :)
Bartram Fenstalker: I do not consider my self a plant snob
Bartram Fenstalker: I walk into the woods to find plants
Bartram Fenstalker: Well, he used to
Bleu Levasseur: I like plants you can eat, too :)
Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- That reminds me of something. . .
Bruce Mowbray: (walking into the woods to find plants). . .
Bleu Levasseur: not so many woods in greater London
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bartram Fenstalker: I am not ready to leave this point
Bartram Fenstalker: why a snob?
Alfred Kelberry: even less public parks? :)
Bruce Mowbray: When I was initiated into Transcendental Meditation in 1971 -- they asked me to bring three flowers.
Bleu Levasseur: there are public parks, yes
Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, interesting :)
Alfred Kelberry: what flowers did you bring?
Bleu Levasseur: but generally uninspiring
Bruce Mowbray: So, I went into the woods near my farm (here) and picked the flowers of three "weeds" and took them to my initiation in Columbus (Ohio).
Bruce Mowbray: I took chicory, wild daisy, and Queen Anne's lace.
Bruce Mowbray: Apparently everyone else was bringing orchids and roses, and the like.
Bleu Levasseur: lovely flowers wild daisies
Alfred Kelberry: mm, daisy :)
Bruce Mowbray: So my initiator sort of turned up her nose when I presented her with my flowers.
Bleu Levasseur: she had a lot to learn
Anastasia Genesis: Hi!
Bruce Mowbray: . . . . and from then on I knew that I probably needed some other method. . . or practice.
Bleu Levasseur: hello Anastasia
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Anastasia.
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Good to see you again.
Alfred Kelberry: good story, Bruce :)
Anastasia Genesis: nice to c u too Bruce!
Qt Core: Hi Anastasia
Alfred Kelberry: hi, ana :)
Alfred Kelberry: btw, bart. if you like, there's a pile of cushions that was made specially for big cats like you :)
Anastasia Genesis: wow what's a bit cat doing sitting in the pond?
Bleu Levasseur: are we talking about a particular subject?
Bartram Fenstalker: My primary was studying Pankora before this meeting
Alfred Kelberry: ana :)
Bleu Levasseur: pankora?
Bartram Fenstalker: It is a chickpea flour recipe
Bruce Mowbray: "Big Cat" is having awareness of pond-ness.
Anastasia Genesis: Alfred!
Anastasia Genesis: :)
Alfred Kelberry: wait... let me keep you company, Bart
Bartram Fenstalker: That and Pani-Puri
Bleu Levasseur: Bart's actually hovering above the water
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Anastasia Genesis: splash splash splash
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Anastasia Genesis: you could change the pond into a Jacuzzi
Alfred Kelberry: Bruce :)
Bleu Levasseur: nearly all sl has gone snow crazy
Alfred Kelberry: ana, I start to think of it this way :)
Bartram Fenstalker: To whom was that addressed Ana?
Anastasia Genesis: a nice comforting hot tub, eh Alfred?
Alfred Kelberry: yep :)
Bruce Mowbray: I saw satellite images of Europe -- all white!
Alfred Kelberry: a hot tub with friends :)
Bleu Levasseur: all stuck indoors
Anastasia Genesis: what an excellent idea, Alfred.  that sounds brilliant
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bartram Fenstalker: It is our planet.....all the beasts......
Qt Core: we got only a couple cm around Milan, already melted in less than a day
Anastasia Genesis: did anyone hear the news about the World Cup Selections today?
Anastasia Genesis: Russia and Qatar
Alfred Kelberry: yes, weird choice
Anastasia Genesis: Qatar 2022
Anastasia Genesis: Russia 2018
Bleu Levasseur: we've got the olympics yet
Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- didn't hear that. Thanks.
Anastasia Genesis: I think the reasons are obvious even tho I may not agree with them in principle
Bartram Fenstalker: all the plants
Qt Core: how many big soccer stadiums they have ?
Bartram Fenstalker: all the rocks
Alfred Kelberry: I think it has to do with promoting football in other regions
Alfred Kelberry: I didn't even know people play football in Qatar :)
Anastasia Genesis: that is the more 'outward' visible reason, Alfred
Alfred Kelberry: south Africa comes to mind
Bartram Fenstalker: Ok, may I play soccer.....if I sheath my claws?
Qt Core: maybe for the '22 we'll got a decent team ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: bart, sure :)
Bleu Levasseur: you can't, if you're a cheetah
Bleu Levasseur: I don't think you are tho, Bart
Anastasia Genesis: Qatar said they would have stadia with air con to cool them down
Bartram Fenstalker: Do I look like a cheetah?
Bleu Levasseur: more leopard-ish to me
Bruce Mowbray: precise feline identity seems to be a difficult "awareness."
Anastasia Genesis: and Qatar pledged to dismantle and reconstruct their stadia in other developing countries post event
Bartram Fenstalker: It is an old line, predatory

--BELL–

Bruce Mowbray appreciates it that all are respecting the bell today.
Bleu Levasseur: :)
Bartram Fenstalker: Arch asks, do we allow the others to come here?
Anastasia Genesis: felt like a long 90 sec this time around tho
Bruce Mowbray: The "others" ?
Alfred Kelberry: why Archy isn't here?
Bartram Fenstalker: Yes, that was the question
Alfred Kelberry: ana, felt short to me :)
Bartram Fenstalker: Because I am here
Alfred Kelberry: ah... ok :)
Bruce Mowbray does not know any 'others'.
Bartram Fenstalker: And this month was to be an exploration of alts
Alfred Kelberry: it looks like it
Alfred Kelberry: I've seen a lot recently
Bruce Mowbray wouldn't know how NOT to allow them to be here, even if he did know "others."
Bleu Levasseur: alts everywhere
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes. . . The Art of Being Self project. Wonderful!
Bleu Levasseur: in sl
Anastasia Genesis: how can you tell, I never seem to be able to tell who is who
Bleu Levasseur: the tarty girls are usually men!
Bruce Mowbray: That's the joy of it -- You CAN'T tell!
Bleu Levasseur: makeup plastered on, bust heaving etc
Anastasia Genesis: I tend to agree with Bruce here
Anastasia Genesis: funny way of putting it Bleu
Bleu Levasseur: I have sussed several
Bartram Fenstalker: Those who are honest tell you, Ana, those who are dishonest do not
Anastasia Genesis: do you think it is that obvious in some cases?
Bleu Levasseur: oh yes!!
Anastasia Genesis: then I must be dumb
Bruce Mowbray ponders the 'dishonesty of heaving busts.'
Bleu Levasseur: hehe
Qt Core: usually chat "style" can help, typos too ;-)
Bleu Levasseur: prob silicone
Anastasia Genesis will look out for heaving busts as one sign now
Bleu Levasseur: I'm laughing aloud, ana
Anastasia Genesis: chat style?
Bartram Fenstalker: Ana, not really focused on truth
Anastasia Genesis: was said tongue in cheek bleu
Qt Core: the way someone speak, the things he/she says and such
Bleu Levasseur: I know!
Anastasia Genesis: I dunno
Bleu Levasseur: well, I thought you were
Anastasia Genesis: really?
Anastasia Genesis: but I don't have a heaving bust do I?
Bleu Levasseur: haven't looked
Anastasia Genesis: (joking)
Bleu Levasseur: spect the guys have
Bruce Mowbray takes a closer look at Anastasia.....
Bleu Levasseur: see....
Bruce Mowbray: Love the navel bling, Ana.
Bartram Fenstalker: That was said, Ana, as someone who wishes a "heaving bust"
Anastasia Genesis feels people looking at my profile
Bruce Mowbray somehow feels compelled to put on a tee-shirt.
Anastasia Genesis: well Bart maybe I do wish to have a heaving bust but don't either in SL or in RL
Bleu Levasseur: Bruce ...that shirt is amazing
Anastasia Genesis: ah Bruce I love bling of all sorts
Anastasia Genesis: awesome Bruce
Anastasia Genesis: your shirt
Bruce Mowbray: ty. It's a madras.
Bleu Levasseur: that's a curry!
Bartram Fenstalker: The time to whisk away is now.....or I shall be required by the memnonics to stay
Bruce Mowbray: I remember having one (a Madras shirt) in the 1960's ---
Bruce Mowbray: and not being able to wash it with other clothing. . . because it "bled" every time.
Bleu Levasseur: you're a wordy cat!
Bartram Fenstalker: Yes, new madras does not bleed
Bruce Mowbray: OK, Bart. Thanks for joining in.
Bleu Levasseur: my cat only says one word
Bruce Mowbray: Be happy and safe, my feline friend.
Bleu Levasseur: tc bart
Anastasia Genesis: bye kitty Bart
Bleu Levasseur: and I'm off too...
Anastasia Genesis: bye Bleu nice meeting you
Bruce Mowbray: Bye Bye, Bleu, too.
Bartram Fenstalker: That, my friend, was not 1 word
Bleu Levasseur: nice to see you all ...
Qt Core: bye Bartram, Bleu
Anastasia Genesis: Alfred are you feeling all right?
Bartram Fenstalker: No, he is not, Ana
Qt Core: Have to go, bye all
Anastasia Genesis: do you need any help Alfred as you look all washed out and I don't think the water is much good for lil boxes is it?
Bruce Mowbray: Be well, Qt!
Anastasia Genesis: bye Qt
Bartram Fenstalker: I will go also
Bruce Mowbray: I thought you were already gone, Bart. . . (;-)
Anastasia Genesis: Alfred may be having a nap

--BELL–

Anastasia Genesis: got to go now nice meeting you all here
Anastasia Genesis: bye
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye Anastasia
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for joining us, Ana. Please come back when you can.
Yakuzza Lethecus: I wonder if pab happens or doesn't´t happen today
Yakuzza Lethecus: I don't´t see the regular ppl on or in distance of the Kira café
Bruce Mowbray: Do you mean the WoK group, Yaku?
Yakuzza Lethecus: yep
Yakuzza Lethecus: do you still visit Herman, Bruce ?
Bruce Mowbray: I think WoK has been suspended for the month of December. . .
Bruce Mowbray: Calvino just asked me about it.
Bruce Mowbray: No, I don't go to Herman's classes anymore.
Yakuzza Lethecus: I was considering when I logged on if I should bring my alt as well online but I cooked and experimented so much in the background that I didn't´t even notice anything here
Bruce Mowbray: ;-) Yep. That happens!
Bruce Mowbray: Is Prof. Bergson still talking about neuro-networks?
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, I guess you also saw the message
Yakuzza Lethecus: brain and morality sounded tempting
Yakuzza Lethecus: still, I logged on 1:20
Bruce Mowbray: Nope -- Actually, I've dropped out of his group -- long ago.
Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s usually in the last minutes before open discussion
Bruce Mowbray: I have no notices from him at all anymore.
Miralee Munro: Hello Bruce, Alfred and Yakuzza
Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone
Bruce Mowbray: Are you finding his talks to be interesting and informative?
Bruce Mowbray: Hi Cal!
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, you seemed to be so fascinated with that group at the time
Calvino Rabeni: Bruce, Yakusan, Boxy :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey, the both of you!
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Miralee. and Welcome back!
Miralee Munro smiles
Miralee Munro: Thank you, Bruce
Miralee Munro: and
Miralee Munro: I dressed for the occasion!
Miralee Munro: lol
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: You're a trooper, Miralee!
Miralee Munro: lol
Alfred Kelberry: *is back*
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Al.
Alfred Kelberry: the leopard left
Alfred Kelberry: thanks :)
Bruce Mowbray: yes, a long time ago, Al.
Alfred Kelberry: hi, Cal
Alfred Kelberry: ira
Miralee Munro: Hello Alfred.
Alfred Kelberry: ok, guess I'll sit on my cushion then
Miralee Munro: I feel like Miss Muffet
Miralee Munro: trying to find 'just the right chair'
Alfred Kelberry: miss who?
Bruce Mowbray: Were you getting a bit soggy, Al?
Miralee Munro: Miss Muffet?
Alfred Kelberry: just a tad, Bruce :)
Miralee Munro: sat on her tuffet?
Miralee Munro: eating her curds and whey?
Miralee Munro: You haven't heard of her?
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: nope
Miralee Munro: Oh, it's an old nursery rhyme.
Alfred Kelberry: reminds me of humpty dumpty
Bruce Mowbray: Little Miss Muffet....
Miralee Munro: Little Miss Muffet
Miralee Munro: sat on her tuffet
Miralee Munro: eating her curds and whey
Bruce Mowbray: Along came a spider and sat down beside her. . .
Miralee Munro: a spider came down
Miralee Munro: and sat down beside her
Miralee Munro: and frightened Miss Muffet away!
Miralee Munro: lol
Alfred Kelberry: (ok, a spider must be me :)
Bruce Mowbray: noooooooo. . . .
Calvino Rabeni: I learned a new Second Life trick - maybe its common knowledge - Ctrl \ - very handy in discussions
Bruce Mowbray: What does it do. . . ? (will wait til after the break....)

--BELL–


Alfred Kelberry: what does it do, cal?
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Calvino Rabeni: very handy for making listening easier - it puts the view on whoever said the last chat !
Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
Calvino Rabeni: I find it helps focus
Miralee Munro: Mmmmmm
Miralee Munro: yes ...
Calvino Rabeni: no more fussing with controls
Bruce Mowbray: Hey! It works!
Miralee Munro: a handy little tool.
Calvino Rabeni: instant focus
Calvino Rabeni: yep
Miralee Munro smiles
Bruce Mowbray: Ctrl\
Bruce Mowbray: Good to know.
Alfred Kelberry: shortcuts increase productivity
Miralee Munro: Usually, I have my camera on a wide angle so I can see the whole group
Calvino Rabeni cringes at the word Productivity :)
Alfred Kelberry: *slides on to mira* :)
Alfred Kelberry: nice tip, cal. thanks.
Miralee Munro: usually our avatar's head turns toward whomever just spoke anyway, doesn't it?
Alfred Kelberry: not always
Miralee Munro: or is it only if they use our name, Cal?
Alfred Kelberry: yes
Calvino Rabeni: I don't know about the name effect
Bruce Mowbray: My avi faces whomever I click on.
Alfred Kelberry: (test) Miralee?
Miralee Munro: yes Alfred?
Alfred Kelberry: nope, didn't turn :)
Calvino Rabeni: yes but it does not cause one to see, as the avatar looks
Miralee Munro: It may not when we are on a pose?
Alfred Kelberry: could be
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I can see that now, Cal.
Miralee Munro: Actually,
Miralee Munro: I was just thinking yesterday and today
Miralee Munro: that there seem to be so many different 'technologies' being brought out in SL these days that I'm completely lost
Calvino Rabeni: like what?
Miralee Munro: I belong to New Citizens Inc and Phoenix Viewer Support
Miralee Munro: and so often the subject matter is waaaaaay over my head.
Miralee Munro: Well, even this new ability to change your name
Miralee Munro: I have no idea what it's about
Alfred Kelberry: I did :)
Alfred Kelberry: once a week
Bruce Mowbray: You can CHANGE your NAME????
Alfred Kelberry: also, Google translate support in chat recently
Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
Alfred Kelberry: yes
Bruce Mowbray: G'night Yaku in snowy Europe!
Miralee Munro: I don't know how it works ... but I have noticed a lot of people now with the last name of RESIDENT
Miralee Munro: Ever since they brought in all the different viewers, I've been lost.
Calvino Rabeni: Does anyone know if there's a timer script object for groups, like a meditation bell, that can be set for time, available?
Alfred Kelberry: Mira, I don't see it as "more technology," just a gradual development that I joyfully experience :)
Calvino Rabeni: Oh is that the reason for all the Residents?
Miralee Munro: I think so ... I'm not sure.
Bruce Mowbray: I would really like to find one of those timers, Cal.
Alfred Kelberry: otherwise it can resemble an avalanche :)
Calvino Rabeni: OK, Bruce, I'll let you know if I find or make one
Miralee Munro: I think people are divided into 'technophiles' and non-technophiles Alfred ...
Bruce Mowbray: Riddle was saying something today about a "Gong" that he had programed.
Miralee Munro: I'm here for the social interaction / stimulation not the technology.
Bruce Mowbray: I think that's what it does -- a timed gong.
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, same here
Alfred Kelberry: oh, right, Bruce
Alfred Kelberry: it's for Android, though
Calvino Rabeni: the timed gong is for Android phones
Miralee Munro: although I feel quite a genius when I know how to do something!
Bruce Mowbray: It's an Android app that Riddle wrote.
Calvino Rabeni: but I could not find it
Alfred Kelberry: http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/market/apps/app/com.riddlesolutions.android.pab/PaB-Gong
Alfred Kelberry: brb
Calvino Rabeni: I have another one called Zen Timer
Bruce Mowbray: There it is. Thanks, Al.
Miralee Munro: Hello, Hana
Hana Furlough: Hi everyone!
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Hana.
Miralee Munro: Oh, I think I could quite easily go back to sleep.
Bruce Mowbray: Dharma Gates are infinite, Miralee.
Calvino Rabeni: Bruce, was there something of interest in the first hour?
Bruce Mowbray: Well, in the first hour we were rather feline in our dialogue. . .
Miralee Munro: Dharma is service isn't it?

--BELL–

Bruce Mowbray: Good question, Mira.
Hana Furlough: Ahhh I wish I could stay to hang out but I need to run
Hana Furlough: Talk soon, everyone
Calvino Rabeni: short but sweet, Hana ?
Miralee Munro: I'm not sure what you meant by the Dharma Gates, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Does Dharma mean "service"?
Bruce Mowbray: What I meant was that the ways to Awareness are infinite in number.
Bruce Mowbray: That virtually anything can be a vehicle to awareness.
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Calvino Rabeni: like sleep
Bruce Mowbray: But I am also interested in others' interpretations of ‘Dharma.'
Miralee Munro: actually, I just looked it up ... cosmic order
Calvino Rabeni: Or Television
Miralee Munro: Yes ...
Bruce Mowbray: LOVE that TV-Guru!
Miralee Munro: What I have found is that all knowledge is within us ... it's like we have forgotten it ...
Miralee Munro: but when we see or hear something
Miralee Munro: that reminds us that we already know that.
Calvino Rabeni: Good to notice
Miralee Munro: It hits us like "a smackerblurty" as a friend of mine used to say.
Miralee Munro: smackerooblurty
Bruce Mowbray listens intently. . .
Miralee Munro: (whatever that is!) lol
Miralee Munro: Don't you feel that?
Calvino Rabeni: How I interpret that is that knowledge is all around and we can connect to it through our deep selves
Miralee Munro: That when we hear something inspiring or whatever, it's as though we already know it, we're just having it confirmed?
Calvino Rabeni: our entire self is an organ of perception
Calvino Rabeni: Yes that's the feeling, surely Mira
Bruce Mowbray: and, in turn, our perceptions enable us to experience our entire self.
Miralee Munro: The same with people ...
Miralee Munro: we 'recognise' them as someone we feel an affinity with.
Alfred Kelberry: *connects to the knowledge discussion*
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-) (interesting how that happens, Al...)
Alfred Kelberry: I've taken cal's notation :)
Bruce Mowbray: I've been experiencing a unusual number of synchronicities this week. . . amazing, actually.
Miralee Munro: I love it when that happens!
Alfred Kelberry: please do share, Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: It tends to grab one's attention. That's for sure!
Bruce Mowbray: Well, there have been several rather traumatic things happening among my friends . . .
Bruce Mowbray: and for some (or no) reason, I have been connecting with them through synchronicities....
Alfred Kelberry: from Alaska?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that friend -- but also others.
Alfred Kelberry: you also had traumatic events?
Bruce Mowbray: No -- not me. My friends.
Bruce Mowbray: I have a sort of feeling (superstition, perhaps) that the synchronicities are there to aid me -- emotionally, perhaps -- in dealing with all of this.
Bruce Mowbray: Fatal car accident -- loss of home -- loss of job. . . etc.
Alfred Kelberry: :(
Miralee Munro: God, that IS traumatic.
Miralee Munro: Terrible.
Bruce Mowbray: and there is this very loving presence that I have about all of it --
Miralee Munro: That YOU are the loving presence, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: No, not me.  The synchronicities keep coming in ---- and I somehow feel that they are coming to give me support. . .
Miralee Munro: so you can support your friends?
Bruce Mowbray: yes, and the amazing thing is -- this is almost TOTALLY opposite from my "normal cosmology."
Miralee Munro: Ain't life interesting?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I am almost desperate to support them. . . but in every single case, I cannot.
Bruce Mowbray: Yeah. . . Life is indeed interesting.
Miralee Munro: Sometimes though, even if you can't be there in person ... you can still provide a lot of loving support by your words or thoughts or contact at just the right time etc.
Bruce Mowbray: how can I support a 95-year-old friend of 30 years who suddenly finds himself homeless?
Alfred Kelberry: life is interesting until there's hope
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, through loving words and feelings. . . but he's still homeless.
Miralee Munro: My god ...
Alfred Kelberry: how did it happen?
Miralee Munro: surely there is some support in the community?
Bruce Mowbray: How can I support a dear friend who lost her lover of 20 years in a car accident. . . ?
Bruce Mowbray: There is limited support from the community - but mostly it is stuff that no one can really help with.
Alfred Kelberry: terrible . . .
Bruce Mowbray: The stuff of living. . .
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Arisia.
Arisia Vita: Hi all
Miralee Munro: Hello dear Ari
Alfred Kelberry: hi, ari

--BELL–

Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, or stuff no one would think of
Miralee Munro: Doesn't the local council have emergency care?
Calvino Rabeni: Glad you could join us, Arisia :)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, good to see you again, Ari.
Arisia Vita: and I you all
Miralee Munro: With your elderly friend ... doesn't the local council provide aged care facilities?
Miralee Munro: or government?
Bruce Mowbray: Well, in the United States, that would be called a welfare Medicaid facility. . . and yes, that is probably where my friend will end up.
Miralee Munro: So, no family?
Bruce Mowbray: Only a sister living in New Hampshire who really has her hands full with a husband with advanced Altzheimers.
Bruce Mowbray: OMG.  I just received a note from Pamala Clift that her job is being cut. . .
Bruce Mowbray: Wow. . . What else can happen?
Alfred Kelberry: :/
Miralee Munro: That's three?
Calvino Rabeni: What job is that, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: That's sort of an example of what I meant earlier by "synchronicity."
Miralee Munro: I have to go in ten minutes.
Bruce Mowbray: Me too, Mira.
Bruce Mowbray: but thank you for being here and for your support.
Arisia Vita: And I am being summoned by a friend who needs my help...
Arisia Vita: I find these hard to refuse, so . . . .
Arisia Vita: If I may be excused
Miralee Munro: Sometimes we get overwhelmed ... if not by our own travails ... those of people around us.
Alfred Kelberry: say hi from us, ari :)
Miralee Munro: Okay Ari
Bruce Mowbray: G'night, Arisia.
Bruce Mowbray: Be happy and safe.
Alfred Kelberry: "don't worry, be happy"
Alfred Kelberry: that's a nice song
Arisia Vita: bye for now
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Ari
Miralee Munro: I feel for you Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Here's what Pamala just told me. . .
Bruce Mowbray: "just got word that they are putting my job on the sacrificial lamb slot at the university.. so should be unemployed within 3 mo.. sighs.. so if you hear of anything that can make use of my skill set.. please keep me in mind.. thanks.. hugs"
Bruce Mowbray: That's what I mean by "synchronicity..." -- I was just talking about that sort of "loss" and then Pam IM'd me.
Bruce Mowbray wonders if he's being inappropriate. . .
Miralee Munro: Not all at.
Miralee Munro: Not in my mind anyway.
Miralee Munro: I think the whole is going through an incredible shift or something at the moment ... it has been for the past several months
Bruce Mowbray: I have prayed for "connection" my entire life -- and now, even as a hermit living alone, I feel it more than ever before.
Miralee Munro: I know what you mean, Bruce
Miralee Munro: I live a very solitary life
Miralee Munro: but have yearned for 'connection' too.
Bruce Mowbray: . . . but do you also feel "connected," Mira?
Calvino Rabeni: Everyone nearly, longs for some connection
Calvino Rabeni: even if in a busy family
Calvino Rabeni: or a hermit
Miralee Munro: (Then when you get it .... it comes with these 'heart' issues ... of worrying about friends etc).
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Miralee Munro: Not all the time
Calvino Rabeni: Interdependence
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, indeed. These issues of the heart.
Miralee Munro: when I do feel connected, it's wonderful
Miralee Munro: but I suspect that not feeling connected is about my inability than anything else.
Miralee Munro: I don't have time to talk about it now,
Miralee Munro: but I'd love to talk about it at some other time.
Calvino Rabeni: Not so much Mira, it's a social condition too
Bruce Mowbray: I feel as if I might walk right past the Dharma Gates - - except that something grabs my attention (synchronicity?) and causes me to notice them . . .
Miralee Munro: Ari is feeling it too I think ....  that need to be connected.
Bruce Mowbray: OK. Well, we have opened up a lot of topics here. THANK YOU all for this sharing.
Calvino Rabeni: Very much so
Miralee Munro: Namaste  _/\_
Miralee Munro: May you be safe and protected. May you be peaceful and happy. May you be healthy and strong. May you have ease of well being.
Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company :)
Bruce Mowbray: May each of you - and all of US - be happy and safe.
Miralee Munro: Okay honey bunny
Miralee Munro: time for us to say 'goodbye' as well ...
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Calvino Rabeni: Bruce.