2010.12.20 13:00 - A Box by any other Name

The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

Dash Earthboy: hey aggie
Rhiannon Dragoone: haven't you met dash before, 0?
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Aggie!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Rhiannon
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Samud
oO0Oo Resident: @Rhi If so, I don't recall
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi samud!
Dash Earthboy: do you prefer Samud to oOOOo?
Dash Earthboy: hey Qt
Qt Core: Hi all
oO0Oo Resident: I don't mind. 0 is probably easiest to type. Or Sam
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Qt
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi qt
Dash Earthboy: okay O
Agatha Macbeth: Have you been here before Sam?
Qt Core: it's not the "usual" yaku's box!
oO0Oo Resident: Yes. I think 3 or 4 times now to PAB
Agatha Macbeth: Ok thx
Dash Earthboy: i'm still looking for gyro kits like I found in Ohio at grocery stores
Qt Core: as in the greek meat dish, Dash ?
Dash Earthboy: yes
oO0Oo Resident: he he
Dash Earthboy: gyros are a great way to have lamb around Christmas & East4er
oO0Oo Resident: I was thinking the orientating technology
Qt Core: in grocery stores, O ?
Dash Earthboy: oh yes O, that's good too
oO0Oo Resident: well, it did seem odd
oO0Oo Resident: but that's my mind
Dash Earthboy: yes the grocery kit comes with pita, meat, & sauce w/onions already
Qt Core: well, a very fast spinning greel gyro can be a tech gyro... maybe a little messy ;-)
oO0Oo Resident: I had an image of blister packed kids' toy gyros at the checkout
oO0Oo Resident: very rare
Rhiannon Dragoone: gyro kits?
oO0Oo Resident: only in Ohio
oO0Oo Resident: and at certain times of the year
Rhiannon Dragoone: oic
Dash Earthboy: hehe
Qt Core: around here we have mostly kebabs instead of gyros
Dash Earthboy: he's joking Rhi
Qt Core: same thiong, different name and beast usually
Dash Earthboy: you have the kabobs on pita, Qt?
Rhiannon Dragoone: I'm going to log; the real computer has become available & iigjt ne able. to sot down.
Dash Earthboy: ok Rhi
Dash Earthboy: hurry back
Qt Core: not on pita that's the greek bread but yes, mant take away with kebab and pizza
Qt Core: many
Dash Earthboy: cool
Qt Core: one just 20 meter from my door ;-)
Dash Earthboy: I usually just like my kabobs on the stick
Dash Earthboy: i like corn dogs that way too
Dash Earthboy: ;)
oO0Oo Resident: it may be a testament to my virtual life newbieness, but I am going to make a Feng Shui adjustment
Rhiannon Dragoone: there's feng shui in SL, o
Qt Core: don't worry, O... there are a few people here (i'm one of them) that sometimes get obsessed with simmetry
oO0Oo Resident: :-)
Dash Earthboy: :)
Dash Earthboy: i ain't one of 'em
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, we are in an aesthetic environment
Dash Earthboy: not alrmed by typos either neither
Qt Core: but lately with the boxx and the tiny cushions there are no chance for that :-(
--BELL--
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i did thing gyros was a kind of food before; didn't remember it coming in a kit when i was in OHio
Dash Earthboy: yeah, Rhi, they gave Greek restarants there too
Rhiannon Dragoone: I remember those; and fast foot stands
Dash Earthboy: i'm a fan of gyros omelets
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Yakuzza!
Dash Earthboy: hey Yaku!
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Rhiannon Dragoone: nice antlers
Qt Core: Hi Yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Yaku :)
Dash Earthboy: Bruce had some antlers like that on this morning
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yak, did you steall Bruce's antlers?
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh
Yakuzza Lethecus: no, welcome electra
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Electra
Qt Core: Hi Electra
Dash Earthboy: hi Electra
oO0Oo Resident: now, I am sensing a... an odd shift in the symmetry of the universe. When Rhi sits down, there becomes a trickster/puck hidden behind the column void
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
oO0Oo Resident: ;-)
Dash Earthboy: hehe
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, come on, O; i only stand there when i'm not sure how people are going to take me.
Rhiannon Dragoone: There's no puck there.
Rhiannon Dragoone palms the money that the goblin king gave her to keep his secret
Dash Earthboy: and no Mic weapon either!
Dash Earthboy: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Have you been here before Electra?
ElectraSerrano Resident: I always come when the session finishes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, early tonight then
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, we've hardly begun, Electra. :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Guys :)
Agatha Macbeth: Liz :))
Qt Core: Hi Eliza
Dash Earthboy: hi Eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: bye, Eliza!
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza
Eliza Madrigal: eek laggy
Dash Earthboy: ya
Eliza Madrigal: Whew, made it to a cushion
Rhiannon Dragoone: yay!
Rhiannon Dragoone: That's always an accomplishment for me.
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rhi, Dash, Ya, Agatha!, Qt, Electra, and oOOOo....
Rhiannon Dragoone: :)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi ARisia!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aria
Arisia Vita: Hi all
Eliza Madrigal: *Ari
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ari
Eliza Madrigal: (lines taking forever
Rhiannon Dragoone: wow. You just dropped right on your seat.
Dash Earthboy: hey Ari
Rhiannon Dragoone: You've gotta teach me that trick.
Qt Core: Hi Ari
Eliza Madrigal: How s everyone?
Rhiannon Dragoone: cold but totally awesome, Eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: how 'bout with you?
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful weather in RL today and feeling pretty well generally thanks
Eliza Madrigal: should be a pretty clear night to see the eclipse
Dash Earthboy: yes
Dash Earthboy: if you want to stay up like that!
Eliza Madrigal: I almost did last night, glad someone corrected me
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, you are *soooo* lucky; its like totally overcast where I live
Eliza Madrigal: !
Dash Earthboy: i'll watch the re-runs in the morning :)
Eliza Madrigal: the one time I had a chance to see northern lights so far it was completely cloudy...
Qt Core: i may even have nice weather... but wrong side of the planet for the eclipse ;-)
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Mic!
Arisia Vita: Hi Mic
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
Qt Core: hi mic
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Mick :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Qt, to bad we can't tp in real life
Dash Earthboy: hey Mick
Eliza Madrigal: see you on the wrong side of the moon.... humms...
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey mick :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi everyone
Dash Earthboy: hey Cal
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Cal!
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Cal :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: and cal
Qt Core: yeah, really
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Cal
Mickorod Renard: hi Cal
Qt Core: Hi Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Good morning afternoon :)
Mickorod Renard: evening here
Mickorod Renard: a very cold one
Calvino Rabeni: top of the evening to you
Eliza Madrigal: Let's just say 'good' from now on.. heh
Mickorod Renard: :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: I have two friends who always say 'good morning,' no matter what time of day it is; i asked one about it. He said mornings are bright with promise and are a good thing
ElectraSerrano Resident: Cold in Paris http://www.rtlinfo.be/videos/filinfo/247704
Eliza Madrigal: That's lovely Rhi!
Mickorod Renard: nice idea
Rhiannon Dragoone: i thought so
Eliza Madrigal: I'm fond of mornings as well but wouldn't want to be without my nights and twlights tho
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, so from now on, 'Good Morning!'
Dash Earthboy: good to be inside Electra
Mickorod Renard: he he
Calvino Rabeni: Thats enterprising
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, nites are lovely; can be cozy; and i used to work at night
Rhiannon Dragoone: So i feel they are special to me
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: or outside only virtually
Rhiannon Dragoone: that's a topic--favorite times of day and why.
Dash Earthboy: hey boxbot
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi boxbot!
boxbot Resident: [dash]ing through the snow :)
Eliza Madrigal: when I was young I liked to worked in bakeries.... beginning the day at 4 am, few people out and about... everything waking
boxbot Resident: hey, pablings :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxbot :D
Qt Core: hi boxbot
Dash Earthboy: i'm a Sun sign so naturally the nighttime is my fav time of day
Mickorod Renard: Hi Boxbot
Dash Earthboy: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: only time you turn off Dash? :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is that you Alf?
boxbot Resident: aga, how do you feel?
boxbot Resident: *nods*
Eliza Madrigal: Agatha is looking spiffy :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Dash Earthboy: between music & technology I got used to being up all night early on in life
boxbot Resident: i hope you're better, aga, and it's nice seeing you :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Eliza, yes, its almost like being a creation
Eliza Madrigal: I like to be in bed by 11... such a fuddy duddy
Agatha Macbeth: Fraid not, but thanks :)
Eliza Madrigal: YES Rhi
Eliza Madrigal: Sorry to hear that Aggers :(
Rhiannon Dragoone: yes, Agatha; that's a nice one piece; very beatnick
Mickorod Renard: :(
Agatha Macbeth: :)
boxbot Resident: we should chant for aga next break :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, Aggie, what's wrong?
Eliza Madrigal: :) What shall we chant Box?
Agatha Macbeth: Long story...
Mickorod Renard: yes, send some lovely vibrations to Ags
boxbot Resident: um, some healing chant :)
Eliza Madrigal: know one?
Mickorod Renard: something like a hug but sent spiritually
boxbot Resident: no, sorry. but i can ask for it in my mind :)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice :))
Yakuzza Lethecus: well, the only 2 i know who did that are eden and bertram whom chanted in pab :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, sweet idea Mick
boxbot Resident: mick, that's a good comparison :)
Eliza Madrigal: White Tara Mantras are chanted at Buddha Center sometimes
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, i did a healing visualization for a friend whose friend was dying, and her kidneys and heart go so much better, they took her off machines
Calvino Rabeni has an errand to do - excuse me..
Rhiannon Dragoone: first time i did that in SL
Mickorod Renard: wow
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Cal :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: hb, Cal
Mickorod Renard: bye Cal
oO0Oo Resident: bye Cal
Agatha Macbeth: bye Cal
Eliza Madrigal: I think it matters any time attention is sent...
Dash Earthboy: bye Cal
oO0Oo Resident: agree
boxbot Resident: eliza, let's do it next break :)
oO0Oo Resident: every time thought occurs
Eliza Madrigal: like we hold a space of awareness and care and acknowledge that separation is an illusion
Mickorod Renard: yea
oO0Oo Resident: nice
Eliza Madrigal: Okay Boxbot... so each in our own way love and hugs to Agatha
boxbot Resident: nice decorations, yaku :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Eliza, yes, its a matter of being aware of non locality
boxbot Resident: yes, eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: ah, Rhi yes I like that expression as well... 'giving up' locality
oO0Oo Resident: universal flux has settled
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Mark
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Mark
Rhiannon Dragoone: everyone, this is my friend, Mark
boxbot Resident: i don't like "giving up" :)
Qt Core: hi Mark
Mickorod Renard: hi Mark
Eliza Madrigal: :) well, giving up holding it together?
Dash Earthboy: hi Mark
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi mark
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
MarkMonet Thor: Hello Rhi, and all.
boxbot Resident: hi, mark
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
Rhiannon Dragoone: box, well giving up is not the right expression; its more like becoming part of it; you can still have local space; just not at the same time.
MarkMonet Thor: Nice to see you, grins
Rhiannon Dragoone: I use local space to move places; non-local space for remote healing, influencing, and perception
oO0Oo Resident: Giving up Mila?
Eliza Madrigal: we're constantly sort of validating separation... and we can drop that sometimes... something like that
boxbot Resident: rhia, yes, that's better :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Freud!
boxbot Resident: sam, referring to rhia's comment
MarkMonet Thor: and nice also to see so many of you ALL.
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Freud :) What a full day
Dash Earthboy: we are never broken
Mickorod Renard: i freud
Eliza Madrigal: :) Dash
Dash Earthboy: Hi Freud
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Freud
Qt Core: Hi Freud
Freud Jungsten: bozho
boxbot Resident: mark, is that katana behind your back?
oO0Oo Resident: never broken, yes
oO0Oo Resident: relax in perfection
Freud Jungsten: Silly lag
Eliza Madrigal: mmm..
oO0Oo Resident: easy to say
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yeah, its Mark's signature; i get so used to it that i forgot to tell him some here might not approve of weapons.
MarkMonet Thor: Yes a samurai katana. Sometimes I am challenged by one of my students.
boxbot Resident: mark, looks nice :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mark, you still owe me a sword fight.
boxbot Resident: rhia, wrong assumption :)
Eliza Madrigal: During the next pause (approching in just a few minutes) we are going to allow the silence to do its natural work and sending/being hugs and good vibrations of care for Aggers :)
MarkMonet Thor: My response is that it is sheathed, and therefore useless as a weapopn.
Rhiannon Dragoone: box, not my assumption;
boxbot Resident: eliza :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: I mean if we're in a non push zone, no weapons work anyway, and they make great accessories
Rhiannon Dragoone: i have a bow and arrow set i weara; and a baretta
Eliza Madrigal: wb electra :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: wb electra
Eliza Madrigal: pause approaching.... 90 seconds... not too long...
ElectraSerrano Resident: bad network cover, must be the snow
Eliza Madrigal grins... we can do it.... hehe
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: :)
MarkMonet Thor: I would introduce a topic, but have to leave in 15 mnutes. So, inappropriate
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Dash Earthboy: well, the 60G of data ii've been transferring from Linux to Windows parts of a USB drive has finally completed, so I must get back to work...best wishes Aggers...peace to all
Mickorod Renard: that felt nice even for me
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well the topic is favorite times of day
Agatha Macbeth: Bye
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, Dash; tc
boxbot Resident: :)
Qt Core: bye Dash
Mickorod Renard: bye dash
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks everyone... and thanks Agatha for coming today :) yes I smiled a lot during the pause too
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Dash
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye dash
oO0Oo Resident: bye dash, and thx
boxbot Resident: dash?
Rhiannon Dragoone: i used the pause to make sure my fire was stoked
Rhiannon Dragoone: its cold where i am
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Mickorod Renard: same here,,can u stoke my fire Rhi?
boxbot Resident: gah.... i'm wondering what this 60gb of data is
Eliza Madrigal rolls eyes
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: tune in next time Boxbot...
oO0Oo Resident: the net effect of wishing well to others, is often to feel good oneself
Eliza Madrigal: stay in the open question :)
Eliza Madrigal: True oOOOo
oO0Oo Resident: seems it should gain momentum if properly understood
Rhiannon Dragoone slaps mick
Arisia Vita: To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own. - Abraham Lincoln
Mickorod Renard: mmm,,ty
Eliza Madrigal: Nice quote, Ari
Mickorod Renard: I wonder if it works in reverse,,for eg,,whether its fatiguing not giving love
Rhiannon Dragoone: Arisia, interesting that Lincoln would say that; easing the other fellow's headache (slavery) caused a huge one of his own (The War between the States).
Eliza Madrigal really loves the idea of momentum of natural care
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mick, well, yes, it would be
Eliza Madrigal nods Mick... seems so... seems to dry one up...
Mickorod Renard: maybe we should remember that more often
oO0Oo Resident: empirically and personally. I would say yes
Mickorod Renard: well,,me any way
Eliza Madrigal: well why do people withold?
Eliza Madrigal: is it a matter of fear, of trying to store up energy?
oO0Oo Resident: it's like, yo know, bothering to put lights on your antlers, just makes everyone happy
Mickorod Renard: I think I am too busy being selfish
Eliza Madrigal: :) YA
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mick, well, if we say that its fatiguing to not love, then its selfish to love
Eliza Madrigal: I think you worry too much about being selfish, to actually be selfish...
oO0Oo Resident: no seperation
oO0Oo Resident: from love
Eliza Madrigal: :
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: mm thoughtful thoughts
oO0Oo Resident: @ Yakuzza Aw
Eliza Madrigal: its so important, to make someone happy....
Rhiannon Dragoone: thanks, Yak
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Anastasia!
Eliza Madrigal: make just one someone happy...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i just recieved these in the 7 am session this morning :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ana!
Anastasia Genesis: hi!
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
Qt Core: hi Anastasia
Eliza Madrigal: I can't wait to read that Ya... love Eden's sessions generally but missed it today
Eliza Madrigal: sooo cute
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ana
Eliza Madrigal: they suit the group somehow
Mickorod Renard: nice video Ana,,ty
Eliza Madrigal giggles
boxbot Resident: eliza, yes and what's often missing is that sometimes it takes so little to make one happy
Anastasia Genesis: video?
Eliza Madrigal: :) BoxBot
boxbot Resident: *watches glowing horns popping up*
Eliza Madrigal: one smile that cheers you... one face that lights when it nears you...
MarkMonet Thor: Love? What does this stragxe word mean?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mark, now you're being silly
Eliza Madrigal: sorry... love that song, I'll stop my outburst at once :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Why it means democracy, of course.
Rhiannon Dragoone giggles
MarkMonet Thor: Then freedom?
boxbot Resident: i only know the song about leggy eliza :)
Mickorod Renard: brb,,just going for a smoke to de stress
oO0Oo Resident: puck is back
MarkMonet Thor: But some think it inevitably means ball and chain
boxbot Resident: mick, please stay with us :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i have to hug my blanket, night everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Night Ya :)
oO0Oo Resident: here's the thing
Agatha Macbeth: bye Yaku
Rhiannon Dragoone: nite Yak, nite mic
oO0Oo Resident: the intensity of love can be pretty hard to stay with
MarkMonet Thor: And I have to go also. Night everyone. Its been good.
Agatha Macbeth: bye
oO0Oo Resident: night Yakuzza
Arisia Vita: Some say love, it is a river that drowns the tender reed. Some say love, it is a razor that leaves your soul to bleed. Some say love, it is a hunger, an endless aching need. I say love, it is a flower, and you its only seed.
oO0Oo Resident: you decorated the world
Rhiannon Dragoone: Should i get my .357 magnum from the bedroom and hold it? Its my security blanket, although i don't suck my thumb when i use it
Eliza Madrigal: Bye mark:)
Eliza Madrigal: Boxbot.. if you look up 'make someone happy' it is a lovely song
Qt Core: bye mark, yaku
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Rhiannon Dragoone blinks at all the antlers and wonders what Santa would think if he shows up
--BELL--
boxbot Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtkVFd1jPE
boxbot Resident: this one?
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Mickorod Renard: back
Agatha Macbeth: I'm gonna move closer to the fire folks, take care
boxbot Resident: *clicks with eliza* :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc Agatha
Mickorod Renard: bye ags take care
boxbot Resident: see you, aga
Eliza Madrigal: Rest lots Agatha (((((((((( )))))))))))
Eliza Madrigal: have never heard this sung by Doris Day...
boxbot Resident: doris day is cute :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Agatha
Eliza Madrigal: but yes it is the same song :)
Eliza Madrigal: Normally it is Jimmy Durante
oO0Oo Resident: song goes nicely with the blinking lights
boxbot Resident: :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Jimmy Durante?
Eliza Madrigal: yes... we need bubbly...
oO0Oo Resident: exactly
oO0Oo Resident: and dancing in the fountain
Anastasia Genesis: gtg RL calling
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc Ana
Eliza Madrigal: :) @ dancing in the fountain
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Ana :)
Mickorod Renard: is anyone here in amsterdam?
Rhiannon Dragoone: 0 just no standing in the fountain
Mickorod Renard: bye ana
Eliza Madrigal giggles Rhi
Eliza Madrigal: well dancing with others
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, there should be pose balls there
Eliza Madrigal: I love the end of the song... it is what came up in the session... "make someone happy and you will be happy too"
boxbot Resident: why? we can do it without any balls :)
Mickorod Renard: btw,,are we having a party this year?
oO0Oo Resident: enjoyed that
Eliza Madrigal: It would nice to Mick
boxbot Resident: eliza, true :)
Eliza Madrigal: I have to go but it would be great to have a dancing event of some sort soon...
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste and Wishing you all Happy
Rhiannon Dragoone: namaste, Eliza
boxbot Resident: bye, sweet thing :)
Mickorod Renard: maybe we could give it some thought,,maybe we may know a good dance place that could accomodate us
Mickorod Renard: bye eliza
Eliza Madrigal: heh
oO0Oo Resident: I guess I will need to learn how
Rhiannon Dragoone: MIck, i can ask at my club
Mickorod Renard: cool
Eliza Madrigal: Bye all, be well
Rhiannon Dragoone: They would charge for a special event, but they would love to host us, i'm sure
oO0Oo Resident: bye Eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: This is Seneca; a friend of mine whose currently grading papers irl
Seneca Quandry: lol
Qt Core: hi seneca
Mickorod Renard: Hi seneca
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi ara! wb
Seneca Quandry hands Rhia her
Mickorod Renard: I know you from before
Seneca Quandry: Hi.
arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!
Seneca Quandry: Ara!
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
Qt Core: hi Ara
Seneca Quandry: Hawaya?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mick, yeah, he's a refugee from the philosophy civil war
Mickorod Renard: yea,,and philosophy house
boxbot Resident: collateral damage? :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: philosophy house is now the place of refuge, MIck
Rhiannon Dragoone: Since PI imploded and is being griefed daily
boxbot Resident: pi?
Rhiannon Dragoone: philosophy island
Seneca Quandry: Naah. Griefer attacks on PI have dwindled to zero, and people have been congregating there again.
Seneca Quandry: Temporary maybe, but it's not imploded despite the rumors.
boxbot Resident: rhia, so you're hiding here? :)
arabella Ella: Hey Seneca havent seen u in ages!
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, not according to my radar, but thanks, i'll organikzse more informal gatherings and stop that
Rhiannon Dragoone: box, no, i was banned from Philosophy Island; i quoted a Senator on an issue
Rhiannon Dragoone: So now i take the ppl there and bring them to me in informal gatherings
boxbot Resident: ah, naughty you :)
Seneca Quandry: How are you Ara? I know-- it's been a long time!
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, i just can't help myself sometimes
Rhiannon Dragoone: You notice i sometimes quote Shakespeare even now? Just never learned my lesson
Rhiannon Dragoone: Seneca's a loyalist to the sociopathic queen who runs it, so he'll have a different take on what's going on.
Rhiannon Dragoone: But thanks for the heads up, Sen; i'll re start my gatherings
Seneca Quandry: Great!
Seneca Quandry: lol
Rhiannon Dragoone: i'm no a little vacation, so no formal meetings atm
arabella Ella: i am fine thanks Seneca!
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, they are great, if i do say so myself; and i would have had them at PI, if i was allowed in.
boxbot Resident: alright, folks. i gotta scoot.
arabella Ella: who is the present queen then Rhi?
Rhiannon Dragoone: lokifluff clarity
boxbot Resident: thank you for the company
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc box
oO0Oo Resident: thank you Mila
Qt Core: by boxbot
Rhiannon Dragoone: will yuu be on later? I am going to see abou organizing something this evening
arabella Ella: so seems like there have been clashes
arabella Ella: at PI
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: is christiana there still?
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, it was one drawn out clash, until finally loki violated her own principles when ppl she didn't like got on the Senate
Mickorod Renard: oops
Rhiannon Dragoone: yeha, Chrissy is still there
Rhiannon Dragoone: ~ WOOH !! ~
Rhiannon Dragoone: ~ It's Co-o-o-ld ~
Mickorod Renard: cool
arabella Ella: does Chrissy still have minions?
Mickorod Renard: I am one
Mickorod Renard: :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Chrissy does still have minions, but that's always been a joke; she wanted me to join, but oh, well..
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi jebel!
oO0Oo Resident: a minion with oppinion
Rhiannon Dragoone: She spends a lot of her time at PH now too
jebel Resident: hi
arabella Ella: oh is PH still active?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Jebel,,have u been here before?
Rhiannon Dragoone: ara, loki's dissolving the Senate and banning everyone has revitalizsed it
jebel Resident: naw, just started sl today, just been wondering around
Rhiannon Dragoone: There's usually a dozen or so ppl at PH, and maybe one or two at PI, except for mykos' followers
Mickorod Renard: jebel,,i have to ask whether you mind your chat being logged and put on a public wiki with ours?
jebel Resident: ya thta's fine
Rhiannon Dragoone: ara, and there's a new sim made by the exiles--philosophy universe
Rhiannon Dragoone: They're planning a grand opening this week
Mickorod Renard: thanks Jebel,,I have given you a card,,you are very welcome here
Rhiannon Dragoone: everyone is welcome here; that is what is so neat about this place
Rhiannon Dragoone: ~ WOOH !! ~
Rhiannon Dragoone: ~ It's Co-o-o-ld ~
oO0Oo Resident: unconditional acceptence
arabella Ella: sounds rather weird Rhi after the success initially at least of PI
oO0Oo Resident: Fire hats are go!
Rhiannon Dragoone: arabella, its almost 18th century; there are landowners there and the PI group
oO0Oo Resident: I hope that made sense
Rhiannon Dragoone: The PI group wanted freedom, so as to have discussions; the landowners wanted order
arabella Ella: mmmmm
Seneca Quandry: Is PU going to have elections Rhi?
Qt Core: order and thinking... bad coupling ;-)
Rhiannon Dragoone: So the "queen," the sim owner, banned those whose speech was not in order and then disswolved the duely elected Senate, when her friends didn't get on.
arabella Ella: and did you say PH is still active?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Seneca, I don't know; i doubt it but if they do, they will allow anyone to run
oO0Oo Resident: natural heirarchy interupted by thought
Rhiannon Dragoone: Ara, more so now than in months
arabella Ella: oh i have not been there in ages
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i very much doubt if Rev would dissolve the Senate if people not on her friends' list get in
Rhiannon Dragoone: ara, now would be the time.
arabella Ella: thanks!
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i will announce the new sim's grand opening
Rhiannon Dragoone: i think its all good
arabella Ella: are u involved with the new sim then Rhi?
Rhiannon Dragoone: PI will turn into the residential sim it should have been.
Rhiannon Dragoone: They want me to, but i'm ensconced at Eternal Desires, which is now no 2 in phil search all because of little old me
Rhiannon Dragoone: And Rev wants the whole community to decide things in a cdonsensus way
arabella Ella: interesting
Rhiannon Dragoone: So that may answer ur question, Senecda
oO0Oo Resident: Newb 0, gets insight into Real Politik of SL
Rhiannon Dragoone: They prolly won't have a Senate; butg will decide things the way they do at PP
Rhiannon Dragoone: Yes, 0, i would have saved myself a lot of grief, not to mention others, if i had listened in on something like this
Rhiannon Dragoone: loki has set it up so that i'm antagonistic to PI; as i can't have my discussions there, i bring the ppl there to me.
Rhiannon Dragoone: Which is great, Seneca, thank you very much, but it hurt the Senate
Rhiannon Dragoone: NOt that tht matters anymore.
Rhiannon Dragoone: No, i think the community is intact, and the reorgnization will be good.
Rhiannon Dragoone: Serious philosophers will go to my discussions or to Thothica
Rhiannon Dragoone: The fun lovers will go to Super Philosophy Fun Timne
Rhiannon Dragoone: There will be 5 instead of 3 philosophy sims
Rhiannon Dragoone: And i'm telling ppl about all the groups on the grid, so there will be more of a network than an oligapoly
oO0Oo Resident: I wish you well in your endeavor
Rhiannon Dragoone: ty, 0
Rhiannon Dragoone: Being banned from the hub was painful, but beingb banned from one of five, and the least one is not so bad
Qt Core: isn't it going to split up untill only people strictly agreeing with each ther wil met ?
Rhiannon Dragoone: loki has only hurt the philosophy aspect of her sim; the residents will probably like it fine and it will become like a suburb
Rhiannon Dragoone: Qt, that's already happened at PI
Mickorod Renard: I would have liked to be a serious philosopher but unfortunately the language becomes out of my realm
Rhiannon Dragoone: Only a few go there, and they all mill around hoping for a phil diswcussion
Rhiannon Dragoone: MIck, come to my meetings; i try to sort out the language for amateurs
Rhiannon Dragoone: i'm good at tht
Qt Core: what fun discussion, one saying something and all the opthers agreeing...
Rhiannon Dragoone: Qt, while looking over their shoulders, making sure they don't quote an admin
arabella Ella: sounds like a pity as philosophy should imply open discussion for all regardless of personal opinion
oO0Oo Resident: @Mickorod just pay close attention to your realm and your good to go
Qt Core: how subversive...
Mickorod Renard: ty Rhi and oOOOOo
--BELL--
Rhiannon Dragoone: arabella, yeah, but that's why its ultimately good that the sim had its meltdown; ppl are no longer dependent on it and can go and find the discussions they like
oO0Oo Resident: what better language than 'isness'
Mickorod Renard: I like to think I have a complex mind and yet I feel frustrated by the sophisticated wording used during philosophical gatherings
arabella Ella: thing is Rhi there are very few discussions if any at times convenient for ppl in europe
arabella Ella: now i have a question
arabella Ella: is anyone here familiar with The Animatrix?
arabella Ella: and what is your opinion on it?
Mickorod Renard: i recall it
oO0Oo Resident: @ Mickorod Trust me. You have everything you need. I understand that frustration though.
Mickorod Renard: :) ty
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Xeno!
Xeno Octavia: hi folkses : )
Qt Core: hi Xeno
Rhiannon Dragoone: Everyone, this is my friend Xeno
oO0Oo Resident: hi
Mickorod Renard: I say recall it Ara but in truth it is familiar yet it escapes my memory
Mickorod Renard: Hi Xeno
Mickorod Renard: Xeno,,have u been here before?
arabella Ella: it is like an animation of The Matrix in 9 short movies Mick
Xeno Octavia: yah lottsa times
arabella Ella: goes sort of 'within the Matrix'
Xeno Octavia: hi Rhia hi Ari
Mickorod Renard: great,,then u dont need all the paperwork
Mickorod Renard: I recall it somewehere else
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mick, part of why i have my discussions is to demystify philosophy; and i've gotten in trouble with the profession for making points too clear
Xeno Octavia: nah!
Qt Core: oh, right, i remember only details of the 10m runner episode...
Mickorod Renard: wasnt something to do with mcgreggor mathers was it?
Rhiannon Dragoone: ara, yes, i know; i'm thinking of having some this week and the next at a Euro friendly time; they'd be informal
Rhiannon Dragoone: I'd send out the notices and whoevr shows up will show up
Rhiannon Dragoone: I've done that 8 times since my exile from PI; it was a way to still participate, but now its for everyone
Xeno Octavia: kool --are u goin Eastern
arabella Ella: yea Qt it is a bit like Manga so I would have thought u r familiar with it!
Mickorod Renard: Rhi, I am slow,,u need to be very clear with me
arabella Ella: thanks Rhi would be nice altho hols are a bit disruptive at the moment
Qt Core: didn't really liked the technique, not manga enough ;-)
Xeno Octavia: lol PI exiled whole senate
Qt Core: mmm, all the matrix series and animatrix, a good idea for one of these holiday day ;-)
arabella Ella: yes Qt that is what i was thinking too!
arabella Ella: i saw some short bits of Animatrix on youtube and some reminded me of inception too
arabella Ella: and of how there is always an 'us' and 'them' or good versus evil forces
Qt Core: that dicotomy is at the base of most of our action and life as social animals, with genetic bases i think
arabella Ella: there are always also symbols comparable to Jungian archetypes
arabella Ella: as kids we were made to be scared of the 'devil' and as a symbol it is re-created in various forms
--BELL--
Freud Jungsten smiles
Qt Core: is the one with the firey hat more devilish that us with antlers ?
Qt Core: (jk)
arabella Ella smiles
oO0Oo Resident: the firey hat smiles into the silent void
arabella Ella: it is not up to me to judge ... and if i judge i judge action and words not images
Xeno Octavia: duelism very BS and dont mean Bodhi attvaduelism is BS and dont mean BodhiSattva
Freud Jungsten giggles
Xeno Octavia: to judge is not to be judgemental t
Xeno Octavia: to be judgemental is NOT to judge
Xeno Octavia: it is to b prejudiced : )
Rhiannon Dragoone: Mick, yuou do just fine
Rhiannon Dragoone: ara, exactly; that's why i'm on holiday from my SL work and discussions and just do as gets done
Qt Core: haven't understood yur start but i agree with the conclusion, Xeno
Xeno Octavia: : )
Xeno Octavia: i mean most ppl who avoid juding --evaluating situation-- feel they avoided being judgemental --but are being it
arabella Ella: apologies Xeno but I confess I dont understand what you mean?
Qt Core: how can someone live without judging, one have to choose, even just between apples and oranges for his fruit!
oO0Oo Resident: I personally find it hard to noy judge or compare things
oO0Oo Resident: not
Freud Jungsten: I just find that the people that rail against judgementalism are the most judgemental..... odd that way.
Xeno Octavia: i am simply saying to be judgmental is name same as to judge a situation
arabella Ella: cant we just accept the fact that some ppl can distance themselves from passing judgement and simply say ... maybe yes maybe no ... i dont know?
Qt Core: up to who to marry or not to ;-)
Qt Core: that's a judgment too about youw own abilities/knowledge
Xeno Octavia: if u are being judg4emental u are not judging but operating in prejudice
Mickorod Renard: I think I know what u mean Xeno
arabella Ella: so cant we have likes and dislikes?
Mickorod Renard: I too find folk that say they dont believe in a blame culture are just trying to avoid being blamed for their mistakes
Freud Jungsten: But is that bad.... I judge peodophiles in a negative way.
Qt Core: maybe using the word choice instead of judgment may simplify things
Xeno Octavia: i pre fer --evaluate to judge to make distinction -- but if u dont know thats fine --but is making a judgement
Rhiannon Dragoone: Freud, well, the idea is to judge what they do, not who they are
Rhiannon Dragoone: Love the sinner; hate the sin
oO0Oo Resident: judgement is kind of loaded compared to evaluate
oO0Oo Resident: good point ri
Xeno Octavia: as a class probly negative -in all likelyhood-- but individually judge them not by pre set ideation
Rhiannon Dragoone: I never really understood that until i was in SL; some sims ban bad behavior but welcome everyone, including those they ban, as alts, if they behavbe; others ban the person, which is just not possible. PI banned birric, and he came back, and bacvk, and back
Rhiannon Dragoone: You can't condemn a whole human being--without condemning yourelf
Rhiannon Dragoone: That's why Christ meant
Mickorod Renard: its almost like we have to be so correct with our choice of words for fear of upsetting people,,yet the meaning regardless of the word is the same
Freud Jungsten: But the point is..... I catagorize people morally that I think are bad people.... why is that bad?
Freud Jungsten: If someone murders... I conclude they are a bad human being... what is wrong with that?
Qt Core: it's bad if the categorization isn't reversible... at least on principle
oO0Oo Resident: @ Mickorod Intention is so important, yet communication so imperfect at times
Qt Core: i don't only judge.. i reserve the right to judge again ;-)
Xeno Octavia: whats wrong is if u base judgenet on ur BS rather than what is
Mickorod Renard: ok,,i am off home,,c u soon
arabella Ella: i gtg bye all!
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: thanks for tonite
Qt Core: bye Mick and Ara, sleep well
oO0Oo Resident: thx to you
oO0Oo Resident: and Ara
Arisia Vita: break time for me as well
Rhiannon Dragoone: me 2
Qt Core: Bye Arisia
Rhiannon Dragoone: i've been on too long
oO0Oo Resident: that's me too
Arisia Vita: by all, be well and happy
oO0Oo Resident: antlers away!
Rhiannon Dragoone: be well all
Rhiannon Dragoone: cu next time!
Qt Core: same here, sleeptime approachinh (my fav time of the day. listening the radio before sleeping)
oO0Oo Resident: thx so much
Xeno Octavia: lol --is we breakin up so soon lol
Qt Core: ;-) Xeno
Xeno Octavia: well been kool anyway --lol thats a judgement - kool
Qt Core: 'night all, have fun