The Guardian for this meeting was Archmage Atlantis. The comments are by Archmage Atlantis.
oO0Oo Resident: greetings Archmage
Archmage Atlantis: Oy vey.... Hi O
Archmage Atlantis: I was just in a dream where I was here
Archmage Atlantis: I hope I am here not.....
Archmage Atlantis: *now
Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes reality and second reality get mixed
oO0Oo Resident: mmm
Archmage Atlantis: First question tho
oO0Oo Resident: are there effective mentorships for beginners here?
Archmage Atlantis: Good question
Archmage Atlantis: I would like to have beginner Guardian classes
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Archmage Atlantis: It took me almost 2 years (real time)
Archmage Atlantis: ding
Archmage Atlantis: ti be brave enuf to ask
Archmage Atlantis: Ding again
oO0Oo Resident: can you remember how you first came to PAB?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes
Archmage Atlantis: Very very much so
Archmage Atlantis: I came to sl because I read about it in time magazine
Archmage Atlantis: The article said that the corporations and the universities were investing their minds in it
Archmage Atlantis: (My words - not the articl)
oO0Oo Resident: was PAB a part of it then?
Archmage Atlantis: Not that I knew
Qt Core: Hi all
oO0Oo Resident: Hello Qt Core
Archmage Atlantis: But I met a couple of people who had already found this place
Archmage Atlantis: Hey QT
Archmage Atlantis: And so I came here, and found that almost everyone who comes here is good ppl and/or good entities
Archmage Atlantis: Did that answer the question, O?
oO0Oo Resident: Yes
Archmage Atlantis: tks
oO0Oo Resident: have you been participating for several years?
Archmage Atlantis: Hmm, I get time and space mixed up a lot
Archmage Atlantis: Feels like more than one year
oO0Oo Resident: ok
oO0Oo Resident: curious i guess
Archmage Atlantis: That's ok with me......ask me anything
Archmage Atlantis: I'm not particularly afraid of being
Qt Core: brb
Archmage Atlantis: Oops
Archmage Atlantis: Lately, it has been snowing here
Archmage Atlantis: Now the wisteria are blooming
Qt Core: back
Archmage Atlantis: Good, Hi again QT
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Archmage Atlantis: i was dreaming I was here, then I woke up, and realized I wasn't
Archmage Atlantis: Since I commited to be here, it was a bit mixed
Archmage Atlantis: Um, we probably would do better with a topic, other tham my personal stuff
Archmage Atlantis: Here it is Christmas eve, 54.5 F
Qt Core: 42 F here
Archmage Atlantis: yikes, that is even colder
Qt Core: but it is a nice temp compared to the mid 20 F we had during the day earlier this and past week
Archmage Atlantis: Double yikes
Archmage Atlantis: brb, have to turn on the heat
Qt Core: :-)
Archmage Atlantis: back
Archmage Atlantis: It isn't supposed to get this cold in south florida
Archmage Atlantis: Frankly, I prefer Santa in shorts and a tee shirt
Qt Core: seeing santa's sled with camels indtead of reinder...
Archmage Atlantis: camels = desert.........S Fl, ?....alligators maybe?
Qt Core: that's a worrying sight, wouldn't they fight each other ? maybe dolphins ;-)
Qt Core: Hi Zen
Archmage Atlantis: Hmmm,......after seeing dolphin sex on tv......aligators don't see so unreasonable
Zen Arado: Hi Qt, Arch,0
oO0Oo Resident: hi zen
Archmage Atlantis: hey Zen
Zen Arado: somebody claimed the log?
Archmage Atlantis: Me
Archmage Atlantis: Yes
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Zen Arado: ok good
Archmage Atlantis: Thought I volunteered
Qt Core: how are things going, Zen, still isolated ?
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: no care worker turned up this morning either
Zen Arado: supposed to come at 7.30
Qt Core: that's no good
Zen Arado: I rang up and somebody just came
Zen Arado: but they are supposed to help me get up from bed
Archmage Atlantis: Umm, wish I could do that for you
Zen Arado: I have a guy comes 6 days a week and he always shows up but if he is off it is touch and go if anyone shows up
Archmage Atlantis: That makes sense
Qt Core: trying to imagine the reaction of your local social services being bombarded by phone calls or emails asking them to help you :-)
Qt Core: that is coming from italy or florida
Archmage Atlantis: It's always touch and go here
Zen Arado: young women don't want to work weekends
Archmage Atlantis: They have families
Zen Arado: they want to have a lie in on Sundays
Qt Core: and then if you alweays get the same person some form of friendship may born, the substitutes don't "know" you so touch and go
Zen Arado: yes
Archmage Atlantis: uuu, sounds angry
Zen Arado: well I start insisting someone comes
oO0Oo Resident: I have what might be a banal question, if you've been coming for a while...fair enough
Zen Arado: I used to say 'don't bother I am ok now'
oO0Oo Resident: strike my last comment
Archmage Atlantis: What is the question O
Zen Arado: ?
Archmage Atlantis: I like this place because it is honest
oO0Oo Resident: no... i meant to say to Zen "fair enough. It must be frustrating"
Zen Arado: I can manage without them atm
Archmage Atlantis: You have helped me see that
Zen Arado: when I was in hospital a while in July they wouldn't let me out until a care worker was arranged
Archmage Atlantis: understand
Zen Arado: I prefer to be independent
Archmage Atlantis: yep
Archmage Atlantis: understand that
Zen Arado: otherwise
Qt Core: but they don't want to be responsible if you do something wrong and hurt yourself, right ?
Zen Arado: yes I think so Qt
Qt Core: hi Cal
Zen Arado: they don't undrstand how I manage on my own
Zen Arado: Hi Cal
Calvino Rabeni: :) Hello
oO0Oo Resident: hi Cal
Zen Arado: but I have had so long to adapt
Archmage Atlantis: It is not that they don't want to be responsible.......they just need to protect others
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: I couldn't get up from the bed in hospital
Zen Arado: but my own bed at home is easier
Qt Core: and better known
oO0Oo Resident: mmm
Zen Arado: nice jacket Cal :)
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I had to wait for someone to take me to the toilet in the hospital
Archmage Atlantis: And it did not fit me
Zen Arado: toiletting in hospital was a nightmare for me
Archmage Atlantis: So things I could do at home, I could not do in the hospital
Zen Arado: no disabled toilet - can you imagine - in a hospital?
Archmage Atlantis: yes
Zen Arado: exactly Arch
Zen Arado: and if you are a bit weak as well...
Zen Arado: you have to train the nurses about transfer boards
Zen Arado: some had never seen one
Archmage Atlantis: Still, that is what all alive face.......women have less physical strenght than men, children less than parents, animals less than humans
Zen Arado: and the bed was about 6" higher than my wheelchair which made transfers almost impossible
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Zen Arado: they work on asumptions of standardized humans I think
Archmage Atlantis: agree
Zen Arado: hey it's warming up here - it's -9 C this morning :)
Archmage Atlantis: *chuckles*
oO0Oo Resident shivers
Archmage Atlantis: I'm still cold
Qt Core: ;-)
Zen Arado: it's 12 C in Miami
Archmage Atlantis: trying to get music on pandora
Archmage Atlantis: cat stevens
Zen Arado: 5 C in Milan
Zen Arado: you lucky people
Archmage Atlantis: "like everybody else, I'm searching through"
Archmage Atlantis: "where do you go when you want no one to know"
Zen Arado: I got a 5 CD set the other day - 100 disco hits
Zen Arado: it's great
Calvino Rabeni: I was listening to Ohio Players
Zen Arado: we should have a dance session
Archmage Atlantis: song, then art, then music
Calvino Rabeni: "Love Rollercoaster"
Qt Core: i'm listening the pc fans ;-)
Archmage Atlantis: wll stories first
Qt Core: disco music is good while driving to work in the morning to wake up
Zen Arado: yes
Archmage Atlantis: Gotta go, playing paved paradise
Calvino Rabeni: Excuse me - an errand needs doing - Take care
oO0Oo Resident imagines disco ball materializing above fountain, by some grand magic of Yakuzza
Zen Arado: better go too
Calvino Rabeni: Bye all :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye
Archmage Atlantis: Shalom, Blessings, and Namaste
Zen Arado: I have one but you can't set up a music stream here
Zen Arado: bye Arch
Qt Core: yes, the day before christmas wit all the hectic shopping has to start ;-)
Zen Arado: bye all
oO0Oo Resident: best wishes
Qt Core: bye all and have fun
oO0Oo Resident: bye Qt
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