2013.03.17 07:00 - Appreciating the Presentatiion of our Appearances

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Bleu Oleander: morning Cat :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Morning :)
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Morning Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Morning ladies
Bleu Oleander: how are u both today?
Eliza Madrigal: feel like I'm wearing scuba gear :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: waking up still :)
Bleu Oleander: haha!
Bleu Oleander: PaB suits
Eliza Madrigal: so many dreams last night and woke late... so feel a bit scubaingish too
--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Happy St Patrick's Day, btw

Bleu Oleander: oh yes forgot ... 2 u 2 :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh yes almost forgot that :)
Bleu Oleander: not sure if I have anything greeen :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: phew! a green balloon
Eliza Madrigal: hard to pinch avies
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Bleu Oleander: nice hat Liz
Eliza Madrigal: need to make my head bigger to fit :P
Bleu Oleander: haha!
Bleu Oleander: nice thing about sl ... you can do that!
Catrinamonblue Resident: only green things I have are dresses :) will change later in private :)
Eliza Madrigal: maybe if I had more self esteem....lol
Bleu Oleander: lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hm, friend is texting me saying I forgot breakfast...
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :)
Bleu Oleander: oh no
Bleu Oleander: I could never do that haha
Bleu Oleander: lol
Bleu Oleander: funny to see your hat moving around
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) will go with this
Catrinamonblue Resident: very good :)
Bleu Oleander: ta da!
Bleu Oleander: nice :)
Eliza Madrigal: ahhh finally zooming new outfit Bleu.... great
Bleu Oleander: yes, my Art of Being Five pattern :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: looking :) wonderful!!
Eliza Madrigal: you and sun could seriously design yoga and bicycling clothes
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Eliza Madrigal appreciating appearances
Bleu Oleander: yes very thematic
Bleu Oleander: haha
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: that might be fun.... clothing with all the PaB vocab on it
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: getting quite a collection already
Eliza Madrigal: have always wanted to make a RL little car sticker with just the logo
Bleu Oleander: ah nice
Catrinamonblue Resident: that would be cute Eliza :)
Bleu Oleander: easy to do
Eliza Madrigal: blending the worlds
Bleu Oleander: hi Adams
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Adams :))
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Adams :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Bleu, Eliza and Catrinamonblue :)
szavanna Resident: 's current display-name is "Sunshine".
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Sun :)
szavanna Resident: hi Lizzy °͜°
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Sun :)
Bleu Oleander: Sunji :)
szavanna Resident: hi Bleuji, Cat, Adams °͜°
Adams Rubble: Hello Szavenna :)
--BELL--

szavanna Resident: checks out all new outfits :)
Bleu Oleander: I have a new logo for your collection Sunji
szavanna Resident: yay °͜°
szavanna Resident: by?
Bleu Oleander: only by me ... don't get too excited hehe
szavanna Resident: ❤
szavanna Resident: I am totally excited - show meee
Eliza Madrigal gets excited anyway
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
szavanna Resident: oh nice ;))

Eliza Madrigal: Adams if you feel awake enough, since you've been musing with APAPB longest here, I'd love to ask you how that has changed for you over time

Catrinamonblue Resident: listens
Eliza Madrigal: rarely get to trap, er... catch you at the pavilion :))
Adams Rubble: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Adams Rubble: I have not kept up with recent discussions
Adams Rubble: I think the main thing is one becomes more relaxed about it
Adams Rubble: does not try to think it to death
Adams Rubble: just be aware of the many appearances that come into ones life
Adams Rubble: and know they are a presentation of Being, i.e much more than oneself
Adams Rubble: how is that on the fly :)
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful :)) ty
Agatha Macbeth: Ello :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Agatha :)
szavanna Resident: hi Aga °͜°
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Agatha
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers
szavanna Resident: love it Bleuji °͜°
Agatha Macbeth: You all look very grey
Adams Rubble: we are all getting older Agatha :)
Eliza Madrigal: hhehe
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Bleu Oleander: Sunji ur morfing something cool back there
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, could be :p
Adams Rubble: Hello Zen :)
szavanna Resident: this is a nice texture for things like that °͜°
szavanna Resident: hi Zenji °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Zen
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Agatha Macbeth: Zenny!
Eliza Madrigal: so true Adams
szavanna Resident: nice outfit Aga °͜°
Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
szavanna Resident: and love Cat's shirt °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: you are golden ^.^
Bleu Oleander: sunlight
Agatha Macbeth: I am stardust ;-)
Bleu Oleander: aren't we all :)
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we should get back to the garden...
Bleu Oleander: nice golden stars
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh lovely :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is that a green Santa hat Liz?
Eliza Madrigal thinking.... maybe not more than we ourselves Adams, but including we ourselves....
Eliza Madrigal: ie presentation of Being?
Eliza Madrigal: :) St Patricks Day hat Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: he he he, instead of ho ho ho
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, I forgot
Adams Rubble: yes, including oneself but not self-centered is what I was getting at Eliza
szavanna Resident: hehe he
Bleu Oleander: all purpose holiday hat :)
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Agatha Macbeth: (will need to change later)
Eliza Madrigal nods... not a presentation to "me"
Adams Rubble: (and correction PRESENCE of Being)
--BELL--

Adams Rubble: How have the discussions been goping this week?
Agatha Macbeth: We have orange PaB outfits now?
Agatha Macbeth: Must get one
Eliza Madrigal: "What Stops" went for a few days.... today is first APAPB day
szavanna Resident: °͜° I put a new box under the balloons :)
Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
szavanna Resident: what is APAPB?
Bleu Oleander: Sunji's shop of goodies
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
szavanna Resident: I should open a shop
Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xiri
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Xiri
szavanna Resident: hmm hi Xirji °͜°
Agatha Macbeth: Xira babe :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello everyone! :-)

Adams Rubble: Appreciate the Presentatiion of Appearance as the Presence of Being = APAPB

Xirana Oximoxi: Aga girl :))
szavanna Resident: oh ok ty ;p
Zen Arado: Hi Xiri :)
szavanna Resident: @@
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Zen!!
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I'm admiring all new fashion of Pab!! :-))
Agatha Macbeth: I've read it, didn't understand it
Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful shirts, outfits, etc etc.
Bleu Oleander: our PaB wardrobe is growing :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
szavanna Resident: yes we definitely need a fashion show
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
szavanna Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Pema would suggest taking a word at a time.... strangely "appreciate" was the most difficult for me I think... sounded kind of effortful
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Eliza Madrigal: like "you must appreciate things! be grateful darnit!" lol
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: but that's a result of upbringing I suppose :)
szavanna Resident: ;p
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I appreciate many things
Adams Rubble: in this context acceptance is a part of appreciation
Agatha Macbeth: You lot specially
Adams Rubble: to look, to see
Eliza Madrigal: I just think I heard it first as a command... but it gentled
szavanna Resident: same here °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: (((Agatha)))))
Agatha Macbeth: 'To look is not always to see'
Zen Arado: or the counter to complaining
Agatha Macbeth: Liz♥♥
Adams Rubble: yes we can appreciate painful things
Adams Rubble: they can teach us
Zen Arado: charnel house practice
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: we don't have to go that far though :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we need to change charnels Zen
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: it's that idea though
Eliza Madrigal: whatever is presented
Adams Rubble: yes, I was thinking too of mental suffering
Adams Rubble: it often is a signpost if we channel it
Eliza Madrigal: a signpost to stop and pay attention?
Adams Rubble nods
Adams Rubble: why are we hurting?
Eliza Madrigal: sigh post >>maybe something juicy here<< :)
Eliza Madrigal: >>potential<<
Eliza Madrigal: "places that scare you"... though, scary might just be a bit of a tingle
--BELL--

Catrinamonblue Resident: roller coaster rides :)
Adams Rubble: the APAPB phrase offers hope that might be something more than the pain
Agatha Macbeth: 'Locus iste terribilis est'
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Vorder
Adams Rubble: Hello Vorder
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Vorder
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Vorder
Bleu Oleander: hi Vorder
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Agatha
szavanna Resident: hi Vorder :)
Zen Arado: Hi Vorder
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Vorder :)
Vorder Forder: hello
Eliza Madrigal: maybe by the time painful one has missed a few signposts of 'something's slightfly off" ?
Eliza Madrigal: *slightly
Agatha Macbeth likes 'slighfly'
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Adams Rubble: It is not easy to break long held habits
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Agatha Macbeth: True Adams
Catrinamonblue Resident: nor ingrained responses
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Eliza Madrigal: but quite alive ... the surprise... of doing so
Adams Rubble: Yes we Can :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Catrinamonblue Resident: change is awareness
Zen Arado: Dzigar Kongtrül: When the appearances of this life dissolve May I with ease and great happiness, Let go of all attachments to this life, As a son or daughter returning home. Chodron, Pema
Eliza Madrigal: :)
szavanna Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: my younger daughter protested yesterday.... asked to be seen for the older person that she is not a cute 5 year old :) presented a challenge and at first my response was "I don't do that" but looking deeper saw many ways she was right
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: so opportunity was for a shift together "okay I can do that"
Adams Rubble: Much easier to give up being a 5 year old :)
Eliza Madrigal: can I go back? lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: harder when they are 18 and leaving for university
Zen Arado: parents create a 'self' for children that they grow beyond?
Bleu Oleander: can't really control how others "see" us ... can guide perhaps?
Zen Arado: shows the problem with fixed images of people
Eliza Madrigal: well, she was a particularly cute 5 year old... hah
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Adams Rubble: :)
Zen Arado: it's easier to have a fixed version of people
Eliza Madrigal: yes Bleu, her maturity showed through in being able to ask the question
Zen Arado: but it traps them and us
Adams Rubble nods
Eliza Madrigal: in being able to present an alternative, too
Bleu Oleander: my views of people change all the time
Catrinamonblue Resident: I have never really had a fixed version of people, I take everybody at face value, we change and grow every day
Bleu Oleander: welcome surprises
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes by the hr? lol
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Zen Arado: ha if they suddenly do something 'out of character' we get a shock
Bleu Oleander: and adjust our view of them
Zen Arado: that's not her/him
Eliza Madrigal: "where did THAT come from?"
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: or try to change them back?
Bleu Oleander: or appreciate them
Zen Arado: to where we feel more comfortable?
Catrinamonblue Resident: no we change
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: hopefully Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: to where we feel more comfortable
Zen Arado: but....
Eliza Madrigal: well then appreciating as a presentation of the presence of Being... there is space there for change
Catrinamonblue Resident: one thing I know is that you can not change others
Catrinamonblue Resident: you can only change your rsponse to them
Catrinamonblue Resident: response*
Adams Rubble: People changing is an appearance that we can begin to appreciate as the pressence of Being :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: in that change then they change their response to you
Zen Arado: oh ..I have wasting si much time then :)
Bleu Oleander: hmmm I think you can change others ...
Zen Arado: wasted
Eliza Madrigal: just Being in another presentation
Bleu Oleander: we change each other now by sharing ideas
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Zen Arado: it's time you guys changed
Bleu Oleander: haha
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Zen Arado: let's face it
Adams Rubble: :)
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
szavanna Resident: ok °͜°
Adams Rubble: yes it is Zen, I'll work on it
Zen Arado: to my way of thinking of course
Zen Arado: the right way
szavanna Resident: :)
Zen Arado: :)
Bleu Oleander: it's only been 5 years !!
Eliza Madrigal: we're examples to one another, but I don't think we can particularly script another
Eliza Madrigal: unless they are willing to be incepted, hah
Bleu Oleander: we change in subtle ways
Bleu Oleander: not so overt perhaps
Bleu Oleander: but you all have changed me
szavanna Resident: :)
--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: intentional or not
Xirana Oximoxi: I go now....take care all and see you soon! :-)..
Bleu Oleander: bye Xiri
Bleu Oleander: hugs
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Xira...paint well
szavanna Resident: hugs Xiri °͜°
Zen Arado: bye Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye ..hugs to you all too :))
Adams Rubble: bye Xirana
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fR4JotwwWo
Adams Rubble: I must go too. Thank you for the discussion :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Adams
Bleu Oleander: bye Adams
Zen Arado: I better go and do some work
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Adams, bye, and bye Xiri too :)
Bleu Oleander: ntsy
szavanna Resident: byebyee Adams °͜°
Zen Arado: byee all
Bleu Oleander: bye Zen
Eliza Madrigal waves to Zen... see you later
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun Zen
szavanna Resident: hugs Zenji °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: the song clip ends too quickly.... I'll find a better one
Vorder Forder: blessi þig Zen
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzrGFQysfYU - better
szavanna Resident: checks
Eliza Madrigal: <3
Eliza Madrigal: I have to go :) thanks for the session Bleu, everybody
Eliza Madrigal: see you soon
Bleu Oleander: take care Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liz
szavanna Resident: hugs Liz °͜°
Vorder Forder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuU3Ds-WEpE
Bleu Oleander: remember Art of Being Five ...
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like that's it then
Bleu Oleander: yep
szavanna Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: that's all folks
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now kids
szavanna Resident: byebyeee Aga :)
Bleu Oleander: bye have fun
Vorder Forder: bye
Bleu Oleander: back to the studio
Bleu Oleander: bye Vorder
szavanna Resident: ;))
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you
szavanna Resident: ty for all Bleuji
szavanna Resident: byebyeee °͜° happy sunday
Bleu Oleander: ty Sunji
Bleu Oleander: have fun
Vorder Forder: bye
Bleu Oleander: hugs
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Bleu Oleander: bye Vorder