2013.03.31 07:00 - Memories of Art

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: morning Adams :)
Adams Rubble: Good morning bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: how are you?
Adams Rubble: I am well thank you. and you?
Bleu Oleander: great thanks ... beautiful day here
Adams Rubble: It was sunshiny this morning but it is cloudy over for this afrenoon's rain
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana :)
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bleuji! Adams:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Xirana Oximoxi: Adams....your new Art Workshops sound really interesting:) I'm glad you are back preparing it :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Cat
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Cat
Adams Rubble: Hello Cat :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: hi everyone :)
Adams Rubble: We have to get Dubrovna out of mothballs :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe :)))
Xirana Oximoxi: ok I am sure Rubble can convince her:)
Adams Rubble: him :)
Xirana Oximoxi: him...oppps , sorry :)
Xirana Oximoxi: we've changed time in Europe tonight...so, again we are more sincronised
Xirana Oximoxi: does it affect you when the clock is changed?
Adams Rubble: good we are togther again :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Adams Rubble: I am terrible with the time changes
Bleu Oleander: we don't change time but everyone around us does
Bleu Oleander: now on sl time
Adams Rubble: It must make it much more convenient being on SL time
Bleu Oleander: it does!
Xirana Oximoxi: well...for me it is better now....most activitites I usually go were at my dinner time these days..:)
Bleu Oleander: feels more seamless in a way :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: PaB sessions are usually when I am working or sleeping
Bleu Oleander: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: speaking of PaB stories ....
Bleu Oleander: one of my most interesting memories was with you Adams
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...very difficult to be all perfect for all of us:)
Adams Rubble listens
Bleu Oleander: when you introduced TH and I to a wonderful artist
Xirana Oximoxi listens too
Adams Rubble: I hope it was a good one :)
Bleu Oleander: my first artist installation visit
Bleu Oleander: was very memorable
Adams Rubble: ohh. I remember our meeting
Bleu Oleander: is she still in sl?
Bleu Oleander: was quite a lovely installation
Adams Rubble: if it is who I think it is, her works are but she hasn't been ion for a few years now
Adams Rubble: Aurokyo
Bleu Oleander: yes
Adams Rubble: yes I loved her work
Bleu Oleander: she did beautiful work
Bleu Oleander: inspired me to look into creating art here myself
Adams Rubble: she is an Argentinian social worker artist
Adams Rubble: worked with children in RL
Bleu Oleander: we had such a fun conversation with you and her
Adams Rubble: she helped us with the first art exhibition in the old Hall of Appearance
Bleu Oleander: oh nice
Bleu Oleander: she is very talented
Adams Rubble: valuable advice
Bleu Oleander: have seen many artists work since then
Adams Rubble: I wish I had some pictures to show
Bleu Oleander: but have always remembered that visit
Bleu Oleander: yes me too
--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: so long ago now ... perhaps in my old computer files I might have some
Adams Rubble: Things have come and gone in SL
Adams Rubble: and people too
Bleu Oleander: yes
Adams Rubble: but lots of good things and people here now
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes....things always moving here too
Catrinamonblue Resident: life is always change, moving
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Adams Rubble: Somewhere most of them are still out there in RL somewhere :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Zen :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Zen :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Zen
Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
Zen Arado: Hello everyone
Bleu Oleander: we were just talking about an sl artist
Bleu Oleander: who is no longer in sl
Bleu Oleander: how people come and go
Bleu Oleander: things change
Zen Arado: Who is that?
Bleu Oleander: Aurokyo
Bleu Oleander: was here about 4 years ago?
Xirana Oximoxi: I have not known her
Zen Arado: I don't remember him or her
Xirana Oximoxi: or him :)
Adams Rubble: I hope everyone got one
Adams Rubble: that os called "Rebellous Spring"
Bleu Oleander: ty Adams :)
Zen Arado: Thank you Adams
Catrinamonblue Resident: ty that beautiful :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: that is*
Zen Arado: I can't see it very well it looks very dark
Adams Rubble: yes, it is a bit dark
Bleu Oleander: her work was beautiful
Adams Rubble: dark ages of SL :)
Bleu Oleander: lots of use of the shades of red
Adams Rubble: much of her art included pose balls so the viewer became part of the work
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: some artist don't liketo use 'full bright'...it can give more suggesting light
Bleu Oleander: really could "feel" her art
Zen Arado: I find I want to change it to Fulbright so I can see it better
Adams Rubble: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: interaction, that's great:)
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: ah nice Adams
Zen Arado: Well I can see it better now
Adams Rubble: Thanks bleu. Nice to remember her on the eve of PaB anniversary :)
Bleu Oleander: ty Adams ... lovely memory
Zen Arado: Yes that's really beautiful
Zen Arado: I wonder if it is painted with paint or done digitally
Xirana Oximoxi: it seems a 3D work
Adams Rubble: She did most of her creation in SL I think
Bleu Oleander: yes 3D
Adams Rubble: yes most of her works were 3D installations
Zen Arado: Looks like a photograph of a second life creation, yes
Adams Rubble: that it is Zen
Adams Rubble: Hello Louis :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Louis:)
Bleu Oleander: hiya Louis :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Louis
Zen Arado: Hello Louis
Louis Onyett: Hi all.
Louis Onyett: :)
Bleu Oleander: we are just speaking about an early art encounter
Adams Rubble: her most powerful work was an anti war piece that was a story line. One moved from room to room. For some reason it was not up for long
Bleu Oleander: Adams introduced me to the work of a wonderful sl artist
Zen Arado: I'll have to try some SL photography art installation stuff when I get time. I am finding painting boring lately
Bleu Oleander: yes Adams
Adams Rubble: as Marshall Linden would say the medium is the Second Life
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: :-)
--BELL--

Xirana Oximoxi: I still enjoy very much 'painting'... it's like a challenge for me and never sure of the results...somehow I find the 'answers' when paitning
Bleu Oleander: hi Fox
Bleu Oleander: i'm trying to get interested in painting again Xiri
Zen Arado: Hello Fox
Bleu Oleander: got away from it
Catrinamonblue Resident: I am that way with photography Xiri :) There are questions and answers in each picture :)
Fox Monacular: hi! am I at pab:)? thus is a weird question, I know!
Xirana Oximoxi: but the same happened working with Gimp or trying to build anything in SL :)
Fox Monacular: hi everyone!
Adams Rubble: Hello Fix. Long time, no see :)
Adams Rubble: Fox
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Fox :)
Bleu Oleander: you're here Fox :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Fox!
Fox Monacular: long time indeed:)
Bleu Oleander: welcome back!
Fox Monacular: thank you!
Zen Arado: I wonder if you could make a print of an art piece like that and sell it in real life?
Zen Arado: Or find some way to reproduce it in real life
Xirana Oximoxi: you can Zen :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: if you make it they will buy it :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I was very surprised the first time I sold a photograph :)
Xirana Oximoxi: another thing is to find who will buy it
Catrinamonblue Resident: you never know till you do it
Bleu Oleander: I'm sure you could Zen
Zen Arado: I'm tired of my local art clubs
Zen Arado: they mostly just copy photographs of landscapes
Catrinamonblue Resident: what about farmers markets?
Catrinamonblue Resident: our local one here has a lot of artists
Zen Arado: I don't want to have to paint landscapes just because they sell
Bleu Oleander: agree with that!
Zen Arado: people here are too narrowminded about art I think
Adams Rubble is tempted to sing "Old MacDonald had an easel..."
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Zen Arado: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I just photograph what I want, if it sells great if not I get to keep it :)
Xirana Oximoxi: you always must paitn what you enjoy ...today I was listening to a singer that was tellin on the radio that he was sure people notice that the songs are created as a personal feeling...not just thinking to the market
Catrinamonblue Resident: (looking at wall filled with framed photo's of nature)
Catrinamonblue Resident: agree Xiri
Bleu Oleander: markets and art .... interesting subject
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... closely related anyway
Zen Arado: too many painters and not enough buyers
Zen Arado: it's the same with writing I'm finding
Catrinamonblue Resident: same for us photographers :)
Zen Arado: we are looking at publishing at the moment and one of the editors says they only publish about three works out of 1000
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Zen Arado: print publishing is getting a bit old-fashioned these days I think
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...but now with internet you have the opportunity to share much more what you do
Zen Arado: or maybe that's just my view
Zen Arado: yes you can self publish online
Catrinamonblue Resident: there are also places like etsy to sell art on
Zen Arado: I find it difficult to get paintings exhibitions and framers even
Adams Rubble: wb Fox
Xirana Oximoxi: wb Fox :)
Bleu Oleander: wb Fox
Adams Rubble: your slippers look good enough to eat, Fox
Fox Monacular: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh I was going to tell the same .)
Fox Monacular: I'm experimenting with using SL on iphone
Fox Monacular: so it's chat only
Bleu Oleander: amazing that you can do that!
Fox Monacular: cannot see anything:))
Zen Arado: lots of people do that
Bleu Oleander: we see your slippers :)
Fox Monacular: pocket MV app
Fox Monacular: free
Zen Arado: yes I have used that
Fox Monacular: but limited functionaliy
Zen Arado: maybe some day will actually be able to see Second Life on a cell phone
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: they are getting faster
Fox Monacular: probably
Bleu Oleander: or just in our minds
Bleu Oleander: chip
Louis Onyett: SL too real could be scary.
Bleu Oleander: :)
Louis Onyett: I ran into a few strange things on accident.
Louis Onyett: gulp.
Fox Monacular: virtual is also real in many ways
Bleu Oleander: agree Fox
Zen Arado: I don't see a big distinction
Bleu Oleander: a real experience
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Fox Monacular: here virtual is just an interface
Fox Monacular: emails are real, why SL wouldn't be? :(
Fox Monacular: :))
Bleu Oleander: :))
Xirana Oximoxi: the 'telefon' too seems real...and it is not :)
Zen Arado: as someone said in an article'we don't think we have entered the 'telephonesphere' when we talk on the telephonee
Fox Monacular: :))
Zen Arado: sorry for talking during break
Fox Monacular: oups sorry as well
Louis Onyett: These are true things, but you cannot dance with another in email or on the phone., at least not yet.
Bleu Oleander: different levels of involvement
Fox Monacular: you can do other kinds of things )
Bleu Oleander: voice is powerful
Fox Monacular: yes
Bleu Oleander: rl is still the best :)
Zen Arado: RL is the most realistic :-)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Fox Monacular: haha
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Zen Arado: I'm writing a story set in Second Life
Zen Arado: autobiographical
Bleu Oleander: nice Zen
Catrinamonblue Resident: lovely :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Zen Arado: I wonder how much explaining I have to do?
Bleu Oleander: will you share it with us?
Xirana Oximoxi: wow:)) interesting:) I am curious
Zen Arado: For people who have never been in Second Life
Zen Arado: well we have to write fiction and poetry are autobiography so I thought I would write something about Second Life
Zen Arado: or
Xirana Oximoxi: autobiographical is also literatur, Zen :-)
Zen Arado: yes but they divide it up into the three genres
Xirana Oximoxi: but the writer always does a selection and build the text
Zen Arado: with memoir you can take more liberties with the truth
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: are memories aren't accurate anyway
Zen Arado: our
Zen Arado: my voice typing keeps typing are instead of our
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: he does not like possessivs:)
Zen Arado: there is an advantage in Second Life that you can consult your chat logs
Zen Arado: :-)
Bleu Oleander: text memories
Zen Arado: I could actually quote conversations although I will change the names
Xirana Oximoxi: ah yes...that's something it does not happen in RL...if you have a discussion usually you don't have it writen:)
Zen Arado: if I can find them that is :-)
Bleu Oleander: to protect the innocent
Adams Rubble: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: you must change the names..unless you have permissions
Zen Arado: we all have interesting autobiographies of Second Life I think
Zen Arado: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
Louis Onyett: all, I must go.
Adams Rubble: bye Louis
Louis Onyett: Great to see you.
Bleu Oleander: bye Louis take care
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Louis :)
Zen Arado: bye Louis
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Louis:) have a nice Sunday:)
Zen Arado: I'm so glad that times are back to normal
Xirana Oximoxi: me too:)
Zen Arado: even though I had to get up an hour earlier this morning
Adams Rubble: some if us have many SL autobographies :)
Zen Arado: :(
Bleu Oleander: :) Adams
Zen Arado: I started to write about using a female avatar and it occurred to me that that might seem very strange to most
Zen Arado: :-)
Adams Rubble: sounds fine to me
Adams Rubble: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: yes but we are used to Second Life and others aren't
Xirana Oximoxi: don't worry about what may be strange to others or not:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm new to Sl more or less and I never found it strange :)
Bleu Oleander: me either
Zen Arado: I am going to talk about explorations in domme/sub places too
Zen Arado: this story is for over 18's I think :-)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: what are 'domme/sub' places?...dominant and submissive?
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:) ty
Zen Arado: I'm not into that I hastily add but a woman tried to get me interested in it and I tried to be open-minded
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Zen Arado: it's an interesting area to explore anyway – why people want to play roles
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Xirana Oximoxi: I would like to learn about it too
Adams Rubble: there is a freedom in SL and I have a hard time understanding why one would want to give that up
Zen Arado: it makes a more interesting story anyway
Adams Rubble: freedom to be dominated
Zen Arado: or vice versa
Adams Rubble: yes
Zen Arado: I didn't like being a sub very much
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
--BELL--

Zen Arado: you're not supposed to talk back
Zen Arado: :-)
Zen Arado: I really do like that painting
Zen Arado: I'd love to have it in real life
Zen Arado: or picture I should say
Adams Rubble: I must go. Happy Easter to those who celebrate and Happy Sunday to those who don't
Zen Arado: happy Easter Adams
Xirana Oximoxi: happy Easter to you too Adfams:)
Bleu Oleander: bye Adams take care
Xirana Oximoxi: Adams
Bleu Oleander: thanks for the memory
Adams Rubble: bye :)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye, take care:)
Zen Arado: byee
Xirana Oximoxi: I will also go now...take care all and have a nice day! :-)
Bleu Oleander: bye Xiri
Bleu Oleander: take care
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: you too:)
Bleu Oleander: must go too
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye everyone :)
Zen Arado: guess I better go to then, bye everybody
Bleu Oleander: take care and thanks for coming
Bleu Oleander: byeee