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2013.03.10 08:00 - Guardians Session: Open Other End
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No headersAttending today's Guardians Session were: Adams, Aggers, Aph, Bleu, Catrina, Druth, Eliza, Eos, Louis, MellowDee, Raffila, Sun, Wol, Xiri & Zen. The few comments are by Eliza, who moved the long greetings to the end of the page.
Topics for the next two weeks (see toward session end for inspiration):
1) What stops?
2) Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation of/by Being
1) What stops?
2) Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation of/by Being
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Great to see everyone - shall we jump right in, beginning with party updates?
Wol Euler nods.
druth Vlodovic: I second the motion bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: sure
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hehe
Agatha Macbeth jumps
Sunshine (szavanna) jumps too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Aph would you like to let us know how things are going and what is still needed?
Louis Onyett: counter jumps?
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜° listens to Aph
POETRY
Aphrodite Macbain: nothing new to report except for the poetry reading on April 6 and the retreat
Eos Amaterasu opens calendar
Aphrodite Macbain: Everyone is invited to find their inner poet and participate in the poetry reading
Eos Amaterasu looks in inventory
Aphrodite Macbain: on April 6.
Agatha Macbeth looks for her inner poet
Bleu (bleu.oleander) looks within for inner poet
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes please look into inner inventories
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Aphrodite Macbain: Please send me the poems by [wrong date given]
Eos Amaterasu: autopoeisis
Bleu (bleu.oleander): autopoets
druth Vlodovic: :)
Adams Rubble: March 30?
Agatha Macbeth: Bless you
Aphrodite Macbain: wordsmiths as well as poets are accepted
Catrinamonblue: Aph needs more coffee :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Eos Amaterasu: April 6
Aphrodite Macbain: March 30 :/
Aphrodite Macbain: I sent out an email to all pabbers and friends
Eos Amaterasu: Oh, send poems by March 30
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Zen (zen.arado): :/
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and this will take place in the Molecule Theater.... we get to fancy up
Aphrodite Macbain: ony 1 cup of coffee so far
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander) muses about her outfit for poetry reading
Aphrodite Macbain: you can either read it in voice pr put it in text only
Raffila Millgrove: if there's sufficient poetry to warrant.. can you extend a bit beyond a 30 minutes?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Sunshine (szavanna) muses about Bleu's outfit
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :P
Aphrodite Macbain: of course
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Eos Amaterasu: what does a poet look like?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): how should one look as a poet?
Sunshine (szavanna): poety
Bleu (bleu.oleander): snap
Raffila Millgrove is only tossing in some haiku.. so.. no epics from me.
Aphrodite Macbain: wise, thoughtful, silly, and strange
Eos Amaterasu hearing *snap*
Zen (zen.arado): poetic
Aphrodite Macbain: no epics allowed
Louis Onyett: Oh double snap, muses about Bleu and Sunji's outfits
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :P
Eos Amaterasu: crackle
Aphrodite Macbain: Did everyone get my email?
Zen (zen.arado): the rime of the ancient pab
Aphrodite Macbain: anyone?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Aph... good to keep reminding too, thank you
Sunshine (szavanna): yes I did
Wol Euler: /me nods.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sometimes emails are put aside for "later"
Aphrodite Macbain: great. I hope there will be a big turnout
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza, could you talk about the retreat you have proposed
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the later monster gobbles up things in my inbox from time to time
Wol Euler: so true
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sure
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: hungry monster
Bleu (bleu.oleander) makes note to self ... write a poem
Aphrodite Macbain: about PaB and you
Aphrodite Macbain: celebrating pab
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or Being? or Being you? lol
Bleu (bleu.oleander): PaB and me
Aphrodite Macbain: being is ok too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: and appearing
Bleu (bleu.oleander): being me
Zen (zen.arado): being a pabian
Aphrodite Macbain: ummm
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): see... so many different ideas
Aphrodite Macbain: can you describe the retreat idea?
Wol Euler: perhaps write the poem that feels appropriate to you?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): being me at PaB ... hey that rhymes
Agatha Macbeth nods @ Wol
Stopping and Dropping
(RETREAT)
(RETREAT)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Aph, on the way.. so the retreat notion is to offer a few different times at which we can gather for more quiet reflection...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): as well as a pre-retreat exploration leading into those times
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Eos, Wol, San and I will be available in the retreat space... though maybe not always all at once
Eos Amaterasu: warm up the mirror neurons
Aphrodite Macbain: could you describe the pre-retreat?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the set times are 5pm on Friday, and 5am and 5pm on Sat/Sunday....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Aph.. on way ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry~
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): its fine... fingers not so fast :))
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Okay so the pre-retreat is similar to the 99 days exploration, for those who are familiar with that...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): for those unfamiliar it is simply that I'll make a page for us to share in a collective exploration ...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or rather to explore on our own and then share in one place about how "stopping and dropping" is going
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): one thing I noticed in conversations this week, is that dropping is a little ambiguous still....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and maybe that is because we have not really explored "stopping" well ?
Wol Euler nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: It's hard to stop
Bleu (bleu.oleander):is stopping a prerequisite for dropping?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so I hope, on these pages, to give some inspiration toward that...
Aphrodite Macbain: good question Bleu
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and still let everyone work with it in their own way
Catrinamonblue: sounds good for those of us struggling with that thanks Eliza
Bleu (bleu.oleander): when does this start Eliza?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (rereads what I just wrote to see what I left out, hah)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): March 22 is when I'll make the page and will send a note
Agatha Macbeth grins
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): It will last for 15 days prior to retreat/party weekend
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks for doing this Eliza
druth Vlodovic: maybe a link to the collector page?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and the suggestion is that everyone spend 15 minutes on their own each of those 15 days.. however, of course, that is just a suggestion
Wol Euler: doesn't exist yet, druth :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Right... I'll probably use the 99 days template, although I thought about just overlapping WITH 99 days
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): think that is too confusing?
Aphrodite Macbain: If you do it we will come
Agatha Macbeth: Well I get it, so should think others will ;-)
Raffila Millgrove: er.. could it have it's own section/place for those of us not in 99 days..
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): OK, yes it can
druth Vlodovic: I'd be confused
Wol Euler: separate is probably less confusing
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks for the feedback... separate it is
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Raffila Millgrove: yes.
Raffila Millgrove: ty
Wol Euler: but we could certainly link the day pages of both to each other
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Okay so the last thing is that the sessions during the weekend are each their own...
Aphrodite Macbain: shall we call it something else?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): 15 days
Aphrodite Macbain: ~listens
Aphrodite Macbain: why not?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): which means that while normally during a retreat it is asked that people set aside the time in RL to also 'retreat'... these could almost be called cool down sessions :))
Raffila Millgrove: it's this the PAB 5th anniversary retreat?
Aphrodite Macbain: stopping sessions
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): these will be during the festivities and anyone can attend just one or all sessions
Raffila Millgrove: that seems an ok title for it.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes, stopping sessions
Aphrodite Macbain: yes Raffi
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eliza
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we will likely still draw from the stopping/dropping exploration in those sessions but not in a very structured way
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): there will be times for silence, for simple sharing, then silence, basically
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): anything to add Wol or Eos?
APRIL 1 THEME SESSION
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza will also lead a theme session on April 1 to mark the realy APB anniversary
Aphrodite Macbain: right Eliza?
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I happen to host April 1st evening
Bleu (bleu.oleander): nice
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so yes would be nice to give the session a box and bow of some sort :))
Aphrodite Macbain: nice kick-off
Wol Euler: /me smiles.
Eos Amaterasu: come in your tuxes and gowns
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Will do
Bleu (bleu.oleander): wear our PaB outfits
ART!
Aphrodite Macbain: people are encouraged to celebrate in their own plot in some way
Aphrodite Macbain: we are hoping we will get some more suggestions for logo design
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes!
Aphrodite Macbain: to send to Bleu
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes!
Aphrodite Macbain: who will incorporate them in to our party decorations
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): balloons at Pavilion are free to take and decorate with your own designs
Aphrodite Macbain: and dont forget Art As Being
Sunshine (szavanna): I started at my plot with a few things
Aphrodite Macbain: yayy Sun
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes Art of Being Five
Aphrodite Macbain: -ji
Sunshine (szavanna): yes pls IM me if you need help with Art of Being
Bleu (bleu.oleander): and me too
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe Aphji °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Sunshine (szavanna): and Bleuji too
Aphrodite Macbain: jijis
Sunshine (szavanna): we are very IMable
Bleu (bleu.oleander): can start installing monday the 18th
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
"INTRO TO PAB" PROJECT
Aphrodite Macbain: druth has been working on a wonderful project as well
Aphrodite Macbain: do you want to say anything about it druth?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ah, yes saw your decorations at the Sunshine hut
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) listens
druth Vlodovic: not much to say I'm afraid
druth Vlodovic: I'm putting together a sort of "intro to pab" slash in-world index to the wiki
druth Vlodovic: you've seen the makings of it next to the dome
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :))
Sunshine (szavanna): IM me Druthy
Aphrodite Macbain: behid Sunji's place
druth Vlodovic: ages ago i sent out an e-mail request for information I'd like to populate it with
Sunshine (szavanna): if you need something
druth Vlodovic: but that can be done over time,since it is an installation rather than a presentation
Aphrodite Macbain: it will continue beyond the party celebrations
Bleu (bleu.oleander): an evolving project
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is a lot of fun... really like the way its taking shape
druth Vlodovic:if anyone would be interested in contributing pop over to the ghost pavillion and click stuff,it'll give you notecards of what sorts of info I am looking for
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): bridge between wiki life and sl life :)
druth Vlodovic: and,of course,I'm interested in your ideas and suggestions as well
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm working on A PaB chronology of major events, builds and ideas to put in the museum
Bleu (bleu.oleander): big project ... thank you for starting this
druth Vlodovic: since it is supposed to represent the sim
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks druth. Is there anything in particular you need ?
Aphrodite Macbain: that we can help you with?
druth Vlodovic: there is a list, if you want it :-P
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe send it out by email again
Sunshine (szavanna): send me :)
Sunshine (szavanna): yes thats best
druth Vlodovic: one thing that might make it more fun is to have a collection of anecdotes or poems you think would be interesting to people
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): taken all together it seems like a lot but really each is quite simple and a good excuse to play with friends
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
druth Vlodovic: oh yes
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: so, that's it for now
druth Vlodovic: does anyone know how to scripts menus?
Wol Euler: sure, we can discuss that later
Wol Euler: (druth)
Aphrodite Macbain: good!
druth Vlodovic: I've been playing with a few i got but it's a bear
druth Vlodovic: ok,thanks
Aphrodite Macbain: hard to play with bears
druth Vlodovic: :)
Sunshine (szavanna): bear :)
Wol Euler: dangerous too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yay :) sees each of us with puzzle pieces behind their backs
Sunshine (szavanna): only Woly can tackle
Raffila Millgrove slips away quietly...due to busy rl day. tc all.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Raffi
Agatha Macbeth: Just don't sleep in their beds
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Bye Raffila :)
Sunshine (szavanna): take care Raffi °͜°
Zen (zen.arado): bye Raffi
Catrinamonblue: bye Raff :)
Aphrodite Macbain: If any of you have additional ideas about how we can celebrate PAB's 5th please tell me
SYNCHRONIZED TOAST
Wol Euler: bye raffi, take care
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye bye Raffi
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Raff
Aphrodite Macbain: waves at raffi
Louis Onyett: Bye, raff
Aphrodite Macbain: If any of you have additional ideas about how we can celebrate PAB's 5th please tell me
Wol Euler: synchronized toast
Bleu (bleu.oleander): and rice
Aphrodite Macbain: imagines hundreds of toasters popping up toast
Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
Wol Euler: everyone have a glass or bottle of what htey find enjoyable and appropriate ready, and a signal from the GOC we drink together, around the world
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like the one Storm made to fly on?
Aphrodite Macbain: great idea Wol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's a lovely idea Wol
Eos Amaterasu: global toast
Wol Euler: heh, you people must all be hungry.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Catrinamonblue: Wol missed our foodie session this morning :)
Eos Amaterasu: raise a glass to the hard-working Pabbers
Aphrodite Macbain: Wol, could you coordinate that?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ham with mUSt-art
Zen (zen.arado): Champagne?
Bleu (bleu.oleander): oops and pickles
Wol Euler: nothing to coordinate :) each of us buys, GOC says "go", we all say "skol" or "prosit" or whatever
Aphrodite Macbain: giggles
Eos Amaterasu: na zdrowie
Agatha Macbeth: Bless you
Sunshine (szavanna): egeszsegedre
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): btw, with the party goings-on, do we have an invitation we are sending out? originally we'd mentioned the celebrations being a good reason to do a kind of outreach to hear from people we haven't in a while/include them
Sunshine (szavanna): :)
Agatha Macbeth: You too
Eos Amaterasu: take a 9 second sip
Sunshine (szavanna): lol
Eos Amaterasu: intoxicate the moment
Bleu (bleu.oleander): big gulp :)
Wol Euler: good idea, eliza
Zen (zen.arado): 90 second sip
Aphrodite Macbain: yes Eliza, we will send out an invitation with a list of all the events on it once we have worked out all the events
Sunshine (szavanna): siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip
Bleu (bleu.oleander): sunji!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): great, ty :))
Sunshine (szavanna): sorry
Bleu (bleu.oleander): tsk tsk
Sunshine (szavanna): serious
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (some might want to toast with soup) :::slurp:::::
Aphrodite Macbain: oh no!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): srsly
Wol Euler: perhaps a pre-invitation very soon now, so that people whose principal mail address is not the one known to us, have a fair chance to hear of the party
Agatha Macbeth: And cheese
Aphrodite Macbain: so that's "my" report
Bleu (bleu.oleander): cheesy
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hey Mel :)
druth Vlodovic: also some people have very tight schedules and might need to plan ahead
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thanks for all your work Aph, and Sun, Bleu, Druth, everyone etc....
Zen (zen.arado): Hi Mel
Sunshine (szavanna): Mel :)
Agatha Macbeth: /me nods
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Mel!
MellowDee (melody1778): hi
Sunshine (szavanna): ty Liz ❤
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty Eliza!!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi MD
Wol Euler: hello mel
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, I will try and send the invitation out (with Aggers help) by the 15th
Wol Euler: thank you, eliza, for gently pushing all this along, as usual!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Mel it is nice to see you - we've been talking about Art of Being and Birthday celebrations
Bleu (bleu.oleander): don't forget your art of being projects .... !!
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) is a pusher... but at least gentle one :) ty
MellowDee (melody1778): thank you, I am sorry I have not been around much
Sunshine (szavanna): yes IM me °͜°
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Mel! :-)
Zen (zen.arado): you have to know aht you want to do before you need help with doing it though :(
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: think "five"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): just do it
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I find that just getting around others who are working on things brings up ideas
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Sunshine (szavanna): I love that Bleuji "just do it"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): do first ... think later
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): start at the end :)
Wol Euler: right
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes!
Zen (zen.arado): yeh..stop thinking Zen
Agatha Macbeth: Open other end
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) smiles
Wol Euler: :)
Catrinamonblue: :)
Sunshine (szavanna): yes Zenji
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): love that Aggers
Zen (zen.arado): chastises self
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Sunshine (szavanna): no more thinking °͜°
Aphrodite Macbain: no chastizing allowed either
Bleu (bleu.oleander): well don't go that far Sunji :P
Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok
Louis Onyett: Thinks of Yoda
Zen (zen.arado): duh
Sunshine (szavanna): you can think
TOPICS
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): how are you guys feeling about topics lately? Love had so many vigorous discussions we were too tired for freedom perhaps
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yada yada yada
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Aphrodite Macbain: too tired for freedom?!
Agatha Macbeth: Yoda yoda yoda
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :P
Eos Amaterasu: "what is stopping?" came up earlier as a topic
druth Vlodovic: how about "stopping"?
Louis Onyett: better than yada yada yada...like it Aga
druth Vlodovic: snap
Agatha Macbeth: Hee
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, what is stopping?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) well there were a few interesting sessions for Freedom and dropping, but not as lively aside from yesterdays 1pm which was great fun to read
Zen (zen.arado): good Jeff Foster article
Aphrodite Macbain: how about appreciating appearance etc?
druth Vlodovic: then we can have "the wisdom of Yoda" for the following week
Zen (zen.arado): on stopping
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Is there someone who would like to offer a frame for Stopping as a topic?
Eos Amaterasu: what stops?
Zen (zen.arado): I just did
Zen (zen.arado): :)
Aphrodite Macbain: clocks
Agatha Macbeth: ***Strong Am I With The Force***
druth Vlodovic: link zen?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh, good article Zen
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) also appreciates the question "What stops?"
Eos Amaterasu: I'd suggest that as a framing: simple, two words
Bleu (bleu.oleander): nice
Bleu (bleu.oleander): simply stop
Louis Onyett: Our hearts at death. But trees are wise and feel safe, even when dying.
druth Vlodovic: when trees stop they bloom with life
Catrinamonblue: yes they do :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ...." the love of the rotting log for the forest" O once said...
Aphrodite Macbain: poetrees
Stopping...
Stopping...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): seems a great plan for this coming week :) And the next.. we have two suggestions so far... appreciate the presence of appearance (?), and Yoda :)
druth Vlodovic: starting?
Aphrodite Macbain: and stopping
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) gggles
[pause]
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): don't all speak at once now :P
druth Vlodovic: maybe starting first to get people going on their poems and artworks :)
Sunshine (szavanna): giggles
Zen (zen.arado): stopping link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
Aphrodite Macbain: I dont really inderstand the appreciation o appearance thing- someone will have to explain it again
Zen (zen.arado): I shared it on Google drive ok?
Aphrodite Macbain: appreciation of
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thank you Zen
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Zen
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it may be a topic for a two week stretch Aph... perhaps to come back to?
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): ty Zen:)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty Zen
Zen (zen.arado): it isn't long
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when we find ourselves in sessions and also want to work on projects there is nothing stopping us from sort of building while participating in discussions or setting aside a session or two to just play with prims
Aphrodite Macbain: nods. Perhaps we need to distribute a reference to the appearance quote as well
Catrinamonblue: appreciating the appearance of being? I like that one as a topic to explore
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): also remember Sunji's class is [wrong time given] Wednesday
Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): 11 am or noon?
Sunshine (szavanna): noonslt
Aphrodite Macbain: It's a bit longer Cat...
Sunshine (szavanna): noon NOON
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh, sorry...yes 12 now
Sunshine (szavanna): ;o)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :::face palms:::
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) have changed my calendar
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
Sunshine (szavanna): great °͜°
Sunshine (szavanna): and I am on standby
Zen (zen.arado): an hour earlier next week?
Sunshine (szavanna): to fix projects
APAPB
APAPB
Eos Amaterasu: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/About_PlayAsBeing/Vocabulary_of_Play_As_Being/APAPB (CAT re appreciate presence of appear)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): me too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the whole sentence is Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation of Being
Sunshine (szavanna): and Bleu too
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ty Eos!
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Eos
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Eliza.
Catrinamonblue: thanks Eos :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): back to basics seems appropriate
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): the page could use a bit more attention but that is a wonderful Pema quote
Aphrodite Macbain: Pema suggests starting at the end and working backwards
Adams Rubble: Stopping to consider the basics
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
Eos Amaterasu: "naked thereness"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): start here
Aphrodite Macbain: Major theme of PaB discussed:
“Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being”. It would only be later we would learn this phrase predated PaB. Pema Pera: “Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being”
Pema Pera: The way to read this is from the end
Pema Pera: There is Being — Being is all there really IS
Pema Pera: Being presents
Pema Pera: What does Being present?
Pema Pera: appearance
Pema Pera: more specifically:
Pema Pera: the presence of appearance
Pema Pera: and what can we do with that?
Pema Pera: Appreciate it
Pia Iger: so easy
Pema Pera: yes!!
Pema Pera: once you learn to subtract, it all becomes very easy.
Pema Pera: easier and easier as you go along
Pema Pera: and “progress” becomes faster and faster
Pema Pera: almost unfairly so
Aphrodite Macbain: That's what I found in the chronicles
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Nice!
Catrinamonblue: interesting thanks Aph
Eos Amaterasu is subtracting
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ty Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: It helps a bit
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) so then we DO want to go from Stopping into APABP ?
Wol Euler: I would agree with your suggestion that APAPB is worth two weeks on its own
Wol Euler: IMHO YMMV
Eos Amaterasu: shift from packaging to ISness
Aphrodite Macbain: why not? it's good to review thes ideas as we lead up to our 5th
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we can extend it into the following week
Wol Euler: oh, yes, good idea. of course we could
Aphrodite Macbain: YMMY??
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and then choose just one topic next guardian session
druth Vlodovic: if we do two weeks we might want to separate them
Wol Euler: *YMMV
Wol Euler: Your Mileage May Vary
druth Vlodovic: sowe don't get topic fatigue
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Eos Amaterasu: Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation by Bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Wol
Eliza (eliza.madrigal) grins
Bleu (bleu.oleander) looks around
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hm ::head is spinning:::: So we can keep it simple to begin with....
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this coming week: What Stops
Agatha Macbeth: KISS
Aphrodite Macbain: sure and why?
druth Vlodovic: muah!
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): next week: APAPB using the lines Aph has shared from the Chronicles and the APAPB page...
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): then next guardian session take a temp and see if we want to extend the topic
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): into the following week
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and if so, how so
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ?
Aphrodite Macbain: It is very extendable
Bleu (bleu.oleander): so for sign ... what stops .. and .. APAPB ?
druth Vlodovic: cool
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): What stops, with a "?"
Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
Catrinamonblue: sounds good :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): to begin with I'll offer a really nice page I found....
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I must go now...have a nice day all:)
druth Vlodovic: we can save "?" for another weeks topic
Aphrodite Macbain: First Principles
Aphrodite Macbain: lol druth
Eos Amaterasu: ¿
Zen (zen.arado): bye Xiri
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye Xiri
Wol Euler: bye xir, take care
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): http://redsquirrelstudio.com/veritas/?p=352
Agatha Macbeth: Adios Xira
Catrinamonblue: sounds good :)
druth Vlodovic: that will do it :)
Wol Euler: /me nods.
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Zen (zen.arado): I still don't get that APAPb stuff
Aphrodite Macbain: wow - great image
druth Vlodovic: good :)
Zen (zen.arado): maybe you had to be at the RL sessions?
Eos Amaterasu: where's the scraper?
Aphrodite Macbain: me neither Zen
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
Catrinamonblue: learning opportunity :)
Aphrodite Macbain: a pick axe more likely
Wol Euler: indeed
druth Vlodovic: if you read the magic of time it works it's way up to it, so it might be easier to follow
Bleu (bleu.oleander): perhaps these two weeks will clarify?
Agatha Macbeth: A rock drill?
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes Druth
Eos Amaterasu: take it a word at a time
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Pema really takes a lot of time to peel apart various parts there
Eos Amaterasu: take it personally a word at a time
Zen (zen.arado): it's like everyone starts talking in Dutch
Eos Amaterasu: Piet does
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Adams Rubble: The first theme session was with Stim and Pema on APAPB. It is worth reading if you can find it
Bleu (bleu.oleander):could coordinate these ideas with poems and art too
Adams Rubble: series of sessions
Aphrodite Macbain: that's where the quote came from Adams
Adams Rubble: There is a link in the Chronicles
Zen (zen.arado): brb
Bleu (bleu.oleander): need to experience it to really get it if that's possible
Aphrodite Macbain: It's been great reviewing the chronicles for the Chronology
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's the thing... until the practice leading to the first retreat (which I didn't go on) APAPB sounded very strange to me...
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): took weeks of working with it every day to begin to open
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like the egg in harry potter :P
Wol Euler grins.
Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
Eos Amaterasu: Ciao bellissimi
druth Vlodovic: maybe have a week of it every month :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Ciao ciao
Adams Rubble: bye everyone :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I have to go.. but thanks everyone and if there is more to add on to the log when I post it please do so
Sunshine (szavanna): take care all °͜°
Wol Euler: bye eos, bye eliza, bye everone else
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hugs
Bleu (bleu.oleander): bye all
Wol Euler: enjoy your sundays
Sunshine (szavanna): have a great week
druth Vlodovic: bye guys
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hugs
Sunshine (szavanna): and sundays
Catrinamonblue: Bye all who are leaving :)
Louis Onyett: When did bellissimi get here?
Aphrodite Macbain: bye everyone
Wol Euler: thank you, eliza and aph and everyone else
Louis Onyett: bye all
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe Louis
THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION:
The room fills...
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liz ♥
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Agatha! fantastic hair!
Agatha Macbeth: TY :)
Agatha Macbeth: God it's laggy here
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sorry :( for me it is okay
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (well actually it took a while for that to show up so you win)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'm laggier in RL than SL today
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: I actually found this hair on the MP in passing
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I love it on you
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) will be back in a few minutes... daylight savings change calls for strong tea before session begins
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, right
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) brb
Agatha Macbeth: Aha, the crowd begins to gather....
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Aga:)
Agatha Macbeth: /me waves
Bleu (bleu.oleander): waves hi to all
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): wow nice ... room filling up
Agatha Macbeth: Liz is afk atm
druth Vlodovic: ripples
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi all again :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hello Hello (back, ty Aggers)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, no she isn't
Aphrodite Macbain: morning all
Sunshine (szavanna): hi all - I am sunji °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): duh
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice to meet you Sunji
druth Vlodovic: shh eliza,you'reafk
Sunshine (szavanna): you too Eliza
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): heheh
Aphrodite Macbain: smiles at sunji
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Aphji
Catrinamonblue: hi Aph :)
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe hi Aph ❤
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: hi
Bleu (bleu.oleander): some 'ji's are better than others lol
Sunshine (szavanna): yes hmm
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Aph:)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): come one come all
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Raffi °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we're scattered about strangely like this... hm
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Raffi :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): cozy up
Louis Onyett: Yes ma'am.
Sunshine (szavanna): hehe its like chess
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me reaches to tug at Agatha's leg..
Louis Onyett: Louis to R-4
Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hehe
Louis Onyett: Bleu to K-9
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Eos :)
Louis Onyett: She likes dogs.
Louis Onyett: lol
Bleu (bleu.oleander): k-9's
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Eos °͜°
Eos Amaterasu: hi all
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): (leave battleships outside of the door)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): lol
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Eos:)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :))
Sunshine (szavanna): Aga °͜°
Sunshine (szavanna): oh nice hair °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok srsly now
Louis Onyett: Hey, that is good, since a battleship would kinda be cheating at chess
Sunshine (szavanna): /me braids Aga's hair
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hehehe
Agatha Macbeth: It's taking me about half an hour to react to anything
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): all that dropping and meditation...
Sunshine (szavanna): Zenji °͜°
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Zen!
Bleu (bleu.oleander): that's new? lol only kidding
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so we are surprisingly lively for daylight savings affected avies
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Zen
Catrinamonblue: Hi Zen :)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): coffee affected here
Sunshine (szavanna): hi Wol °͜°
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: speak for yourself - the only thing propping me up is my coffee cup!
Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Wol, Zen
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Hi Wol :)
Zen (zen.arado): Hi all
Bleu (bleu.oleander): Wolji
Wol Euler: afternoon eveyrone!
Agatha Macbeth: Yay Wollie
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Zen, Wol.... (this *is* real life?)
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Eos
Wol Euler: of course :)
Aphrodite Macbain: waves at wol.eos and all recent newcomers
Bleu (bleu.oleander): big crowd
Adams Rubble: Hello Aphrodite, Agatha, Eos, Zen and Wol and anyone I missed :)
Aphrodite Macbain: hey Adams
Bleu (bleu.oleander): we should take a vote on something lol
Agatha Macbeth: /me waves again
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me grins
Bleu (bleu.oleander): hi Raffi
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