2008.09.02 07:00 - Quiet Musical Generations

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     This morning Riddle was the GOC and these are my comments.

    Doug appeared and then disappeared.

    Riddle Sideways: good morning Doug

    I sat quietly for a half hour.  I needed that sitting with the wind chimes.  Having been gone 6 days with constant people, teenagers, noise, travel, etc.

    After about a half hour Gaya Ethaniel joins me

    Riddle Sideways: good morning, Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
    Gaya Ethaniel: How are you Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: very good
    Riddle Sideways: mostly relaxed from holidays
    Riddle Sideways: was sitting here with self
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: first time nobody has been here with me
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hope I'm not intruding on your solitary reflection
    Riddle Sideways: nope
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Actually, Gaya had been so nice to IM me first to see if it was ok to join.  I hadn't realized what that tinkle-tinkle sound meant, so it took a while for me to see the IM.
    Riddle Sideways: I was reading all the group emails :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah
    Gaya Ethaniel: How was the weather during your holiday?
    Riddle Sideways: Nice hot weather
    Riddle Sideways: I got a beautiful sun burn
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: 95 F
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... in centigrade?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Celcius?
    Riddle Sideways: no F (sp?)
    Gaya Ethaniel googles
    Riddle Sideways gives up trying to spell
    Gaya Ethaniel: Wow... 35 Celsius. Hot
    Gaya Ethaniel laughs
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: I was not use to it
    Gaya Ethaniel: Did you dare sunbathing?
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Riddle Sideways: I bathed in lotion
    Gaya Ethaniel thinks Sun is essential...
    Riddle Sideways: but burned anyway
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Riddle Sideways: I live in coastal fog area
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
    Gaya Ethaniel: You must have really enjoyed it then... starved from sun
    Riddle Sideways: was so nice
    Gaya is such a nice person.  She always asks about others.  She always gets me to go on and on about myself :).
    Riddle Sideways: stayed up late playing mucis
    Riddle Sideways: music
    Gaya Ethaniel: What kind?
    Riddle Sideways: tried to sleep during day, but tent got tooo hot
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: mostly acostic music
    Riddle Sideways: there was very little electric power
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... what instrument you play?
    Riddle Sideways: years ago it was a bluegrass festival
    Gaya Ethaniel googles 'bluegrass'
    Riddle Sideways: but has become folk, jazz, bluegrass, country, rock, etc
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
    Riddle Sideways: Bluegrass is an american
    Riddle Sideways: genre
    Riddle Sideways: from our southern states
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bluegrass music is a form of American roots music, and it is a sub-genre of country music. It has its own roots in Irish, Scottish and English traditional music. Bluegrass was inspired by the music of immigrants from the United Kingdom and Ireland (particularly the Scots-Irish immigrants in Appalachia), as well as jazz and blues.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Source: wikipedia
    Riddle Sideways: yeah, that is what I was going to write :D
    It is so wonderful that Gaya can look up the meaning of words, phrases, etc. way before I can type an explaination.
    Riddle Sideways: far too many bangos
    Gaya Ethaniel: You play bango?
    Riddle Sideways: no :)
    Riddle Sideways: I play bass and some guitar
    Gaya Ethaniel: Nice
    Gaya Ethaniel likes Copeland's Appalachian Spring
    Riddle Sideways: it's funny there are some many young kids getting into ol timey music now
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps getting interested in their 'roots'?
    Riddle Sideways: a lot of Appalachian music was dying out
    Riddle Sideways: and many kids are picking it up
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    At the risk of too much generalization...  What I was also seeing was that one generation starts (or re-starts) some art form etc.  Soon it fades away to almost gone/dead.  Then another generation picks it up and puts their twist on that art.
    Riddle Sideways: the festival I went to had a big stage with big artists
    Riddle Sideways: but also
    Riddle Sideways: campgrounds with everybody playing
    Gaya Ethaniel listens
    Riddle Sideways: I could stroll from camp to camp
    Riddle Sideways: and one would have folk music
    Riddle Sideways: another had clarinets and flutes
    Riddle Sideways: another was playing beatles
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: many people didn't know the chords, words nor song
    Riddle Sideways: but they joined in with full hearts
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles

    This group does not often talk about some of my favorite subjects.  The Arts have 2 sides (at least) the producer and the consumer.  The making of music needs listeners.  Listeners need the music made.  The lines between player and listeners/enjoyer mix, blend, combine as we colaborate in group music making and the pleasure of hearing it.

    Enough of that, now back to more about me.  Actually, as I get older my hair is getting shorter.

    Gaya Ethaniel thinks Riddle is rather a hippie
    Riddle Sideways: opps... you caught me
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Gaya Ethaniel: Still a hippie hey
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Gaya Ethaniel: That's amazing... was a phase for most of ppl
    Gaya Ethaniel remembers Forest Gump
    Riddle Sideways: I got stuck in that phase
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles 'stuck?'
    Gaya Ethaniel: Happily stuck I hope
    Riddle Sideways: I wasn't a very good hippie, so I had to stay there longer
    Gaya Ethaniel laughs out loud
    Gaya Ethaniel thinks a lot of old timers at PaB have a wicked sense of humour
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoying life perhaps
    Riddle Sideways: sense of humour is what we play
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Riddle Sideways: argggh, typing is hard today
    Gaya Ethaniel nods 'hard to get back into in no?'
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Typing (and spelling) are really tough today.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Could you tell me more about Judaism Riddle?
    Gaya Ethaniel: What you like about it for example
    Riddle Sideways: I mostly like the family aspect
    Riddle Sideways: most western religions are based on a building in your town
    Gaya Ethaniel listens
    Riddle Sideways: and you need to go to that building
    Riddle Sideways: I think it should be in my home, heart, anywhere, everywhere
    Riddle Sideways: so a religion that has traditions and practices outside of some building
    Gaya Ethaniel: You don't attend Synagogue ?
    Riddle Sideways: done in the home with family was important to me
    Riddle Sideways: I go couple times a month
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah
    Gaya Ethaniel: I know somewhat you Jewish ppl do from watching films such as 'Sunshine'
    Riddle Sideways: but, celebrate every shabath
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    I have not seen (or can't remember) 'Sunshine'.  Gaya is refering to the lighting of candles at sundown of Friday night.  The matriarch does this tradition with all the symbolism.  My wife, an educator with her women's studies and Judiam interests, could do the following judgice.  I, being lowly male, usually close my eyes during the first prayer and miss most of it.
    Gaya Ethaniel: That inhaling smoke... intrigues me
    Gaya Ethaniel: From candles
    Riddle Sideways: ah
    Riddle Sideways: not really inhaling smoke
    Riddle Sideways: more like inhaling the light / dark and calm
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh
    Gaya Ethaniel: Care to say more?
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    Riddle Sideways: the gathering of that time
    Gaya Ethaniel: From the gathering rather than the candles?
    Gaya Ethaniel: 'Inhaling' that is
    Riddle Sideways: so many symbols rolled together
    Riddle Sideways: and many ways of thinking of it
    Riddle Sideways: I like your inhaling wording
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: the act of separating the week from the rest day
    Riddle Sideways: the edge of the separation
    Riddle Sideways: being inhaled
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
    Riddle Sideways: the lighting of candles to light the shabot
    Riddle Sideways: separates the week from the holiday
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thought something to do with Zoroastrian tradition...
    Gaya Ethaniel: Of course Judaism is older
    Thank you, Gaya.  I shall carry this "inhaling" concept with me for a while. I really like it. There is often put the image and concept of the Bride of Shabbot entering on the days end.  Ceremony always calls for a separation from mundane.  A something that calls us to worship. 
    Gaya Ethaniel: Music in Synagogue important too isn't it?
    Riddle Sideways: it is important to me
    Riddle Sideways: as that is my relationship
    Riddle Sideways: but for most
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    Riddle Sideways: music is not that important as you would thyink it
    Riddle Sideways: ummmm
    Riddle Sideways: that didn't come out right
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... it's kind of really happening in UK...
    Gaya Ethaniel: Young ppl playing more music in Synagogue etc
    Riddle Sideways: yes, much more music now
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... don't know much about it but it was acoustic music played as a group
    Riddle Sideways: but, not like christian choir
    Gaya Ethaniel: Many diff instruments and lots of singing together
    Gaya Ethaniel: Very hippipe I thought
    Riddle Sideways: our cantor is very hippie
    Riddle Sideways: she was a big sur folk singer
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah
    Riddle Sideways: but many temples don't have instruments
    Riddle Sideways: just out-of-tune old guys chanting
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... ok
    Riddle Sideways: many others have groups of kids
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Gaya Ethaniel: You fit right in there Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: I think so
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles

    Allow me a little here.  Jews have been chanting their prayers for a couple thousand years.  That is a kind of music that is the root and fullness of those prayers.  To be singing the same songs that hundreds of generations have sung and will sing.
    Yet, many congregations have introduced and/or elimited more musical intruments and choirs.  Newer melodies replace some old melodies.  Joyous, almost cheering rah-rah, versions replace some others.  The Cantor (song leader) is on equal stature as the Rabbi.
    Having just spent a sunday morning gospel hour in a high meadow, I gotta say that those Christians sure can wrap music and faith together really tightly. 

    Riddle Sideways: however most is in hebrew
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Riddle Sideways: which I am not that good at
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah well... no matter Riddle. Sure you have fun
    Riddle Sideways: yes, fun I have
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: getting the meaning is different
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... well I don't always understand words when listening to operas?
    Gaya Ethaniel: That doesn't lesson my enjoyment...
    Riddle Sideways: me either
    Gaya Ethaniel: One kinda gets the idea
    Riddle Sideways: the feeling
    Gaya Ethaniel: Song without words...
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm afraid duty calls
    Riddle Sideways: Duty?
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ... shopping for poseballs. Do drop by my plot sometime Riddle
    Gaya Ethaniel: Lovely talking to you as always
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles
    Riddle Sideways: thank you
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good day and see you soon. Ty

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    Originally written on 08:36, 03 Sep 2008
    Riddle a real nice person too :D
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