2008.09.02 07:00 - Quiet Musical Generations

 This morning Riddle was the GOC and these are my comments.

Doug appeared and then disappeared.

Riddle Sideways: good morning Doug

I sat quietly for a half hour.  I needed that sitting with the wind chimes.  Having been gone 6 days with constant people, teenagers, noise, travel, etc.

After about a half hour Gaya Ethaniel joins me

Riddle Sideways: good morning, Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Gaya Ethaniel: How are you Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: very good
Riddle Sideways: mostly relaxed from holidays
Riddle Sideways: was sitting here with self
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: first time nobody has been here with me
Gaya Ethaniel: Hope I'm not intruding on your solitary reflection
Riddle Sideways: nope
Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Riddle Sideways: I was reading all the group emails :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ah
Gaya Ethaniel: How was the weather during your holiday?
Riddle Sideways: Nice hot weather
Riddle Sideways: I got a beautiful sun burn
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: 95 F
Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... in centigrade?
Gaya Ethaniel: Celcius?
Riddle Sideways: no F (sp?)
Gaya Ethaniel googles
Riddle Sideways gives up trying to spell
Gaya Ethaniel: Wow... 35 Celsius. Hot
Gaya Ethaniel laughs
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: I was not use to it
Gaya Ethaniel: Did you dare sunbathing?
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Riddle Sideways: I bathed in lotion
Gaya Ethaniel thinks Sun is essential...
Riddle Sideways: but burned anyway
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Riddle Sideways: I live in coastal fog area
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Gaya Ethaniel: You must have really enjoyed it then... starved from sun
Riddle Sideways: was so nice

Riddle Sideways: stayed up late playing mucis
Riddle Sideways: music
Gaya Ethaniel: What kind?
Riddle Sideways: tried to sleep during day, but tent got tooo hot
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: mostly acostic music
Riddle Sideways: there was very little electric power
Gaya Ethaniel: ah... what instrument you play?
Riddle Sideways: years ago it was a bluegrass festival
Gaya Ethaniel googles 'bluegrass'
Riddle Sideways: but has become folk, jazz, bluegrass, country, rock, etc
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Riddle Sideways: Bluegrass is an american
Riddle Sideways: genre
Riddle Sideways: from our southern states
Gaya Ethaniel: Bluegrass music is a form of American roots music, and it is a sub-genre of country music. It has its own roots in Irish, Scottish and English traditional music. Bluegrass was inspired by the music of immigrants from the United Kingdom and Ireland (particularly the Scots-Irish immigrants in Appalachia), as well as jazz and blues.
Gaya Ethaniel: Source: wikipedia
Riddle Sideways: yeah, that is what I was going to write :D

Riddle Sideways: far too many bangos
Gaya Ethaniel: You play bango?
Riddle Sideways: no :)
Riddle Sideways: I play bass and some guitar
Gaya Ethaniel: Nice
Gaya Ethaniel likes Copeland's Appalachian Spring
Riddle Sideways: it's funny there are some many young kids getting into ol timey music now
Gaya Ethaniel: oh?
Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps getting interested in their 'roots'?
Riddle Sideways: a lot of Appalachian music was dying out
Riddle Sideways: and many kids are picking it up
Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Riddle Sideways: the festival I went to had a big stage with big artists
Riddle Sideways: but also
Riddle Sideways: campgrounds with everybody playing
Gaya Ethaniel listens
Riddle Sideways: I could stroll from camp to camp
Riddle Sideways: and one would have folk music
Riddle Sideways: another had clarinets and flutes
Riddle Sideways: another was playing beatles
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: many people didn't know the chords, words nor song
Riddle Sideways: but they joined in with full hearts
Gaya Ethaniel smiles

This group does not often talk about some of my favorite subjects.  The Arts have 2 sides (at least) the producer and the consumer.  The making of music needs listeners.  Listeners need the music made.  The lines between player and listeners/enjoyer mix, blend, combine as we colaborate in group music making and the pleasure of hearing it.

Enough of that, now back to more about me.  Actually, as I get older my hair is getting shorter.

Gaya Ethaniel thinks Riddle is rather a hippie
Riddle Sideways: opps... you caught me
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: Still a hippie hey
Riddle Sideways: yes
Gaya Ethaniel: That's amazing... was a phase for most of ppl
Gaya Ethaniel remembers Forest Gump
Riddle Sideways: I got stuck in that phase
Gaya Ethaniel smiles 'stuck?'
Gaya Ethaniel: Happily stuck I hope
Riddle Sideways: I wasn't a very good hippie, so I had to stay there longer
Gaya Ethaniel laughs out loud
Gaya Ethaniel thinks a lot of old timers at PaB have a wicked sense of humour
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoying life perhaps
Riddle Sideways: sense of humour is what we play
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Riddle Sideways: argggh, typing is hard today
Gaya Ethaniel nods 'hard to get back into in no?'
Riddle Sideways: yep

Gaya Ethaniel: Could you tell me more about Judaism Riddle?
Gaya Ethaniel: What you like about it for example
Riddle Sideways: I mostly like the family aspect
Riddle Sideways: most western religions are based on a building in your town
Gaya Ethaniel listens
Riddle Sideways: and you need to go to that building
Riddle Sideways: I think it should be in my home, heart, anywhere, everywhere
Riddle Sideways: so a religion that has traditions and practices outside of some building
Gaya Ethaniel: You don't attend Synagogue ?
Riddle Sideways: done in the home with family was important to me
Riddle Sideways: I go couple times a month
Gaya Ethaniel: ah
Gaya Ethaniel: I know somewhat you Jewish ppl do from watching films such as 'Sunshine'
Riddle Sideways: but, celebrate every shabath
Gaya Ethaniel nods

Gaya Ethaniel: That inhaling smoke... intrigues me
Gaya Ethaniel: From candles
Riddle Sideways: ah
Riddle Sideways: not really inhaling smoke
Riddle Sideways: more like inhaling the light / dark and calm
Gaya Ethaniel: oh
Gaya Ethaniel: Care to say more?
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Riddle Sideways: the gathering of that time
Gaya Ethaniel: From the gathering rather than the candles?
Gaya Ethaniel: 'Inhaling' that is
Riddle Sideways: so many symbols rolled together
Riddle Sideways: and many ways of thinking of it
Riddle Sideways: I like your inhaling wording
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: the act of separating the week from the rest day
Riddle Sideways: the edge of the separation
Riddle Sideways: being inhaled
Riddle Sideways: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Riddle Sideways: the lighting of candles to light the shabot
Riddle Sideways: separates the week from the holiday
Gaya Ethaniel: Thought something to do with Zoroastrian tradition...
Gaya Ethaniel: Of course Judaism is older

Gaya Ethaniel: Music in Synagogue important too isn't it?
Riddle Sideways: it is important to me
Riddle Sideways: as that is my relationship
Riddle Sideways: but for most
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Riddle Sideways: music is not that important as you would thyink it
Riddle Sideways: ummmm
Riddle Sideways: that didn't come out right
Gaya Ethaniel: ah... it's kind of really happening in UK...
Gaya Ethaniel: Young ppl playing more music in Synagogue etc
Riddle Sideways: yes, much more music now
Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... don't know much about it but it was acoustic music played as a group
Riddle Sideways: but, not like christian choir
Gaya Ethaniel: Many diff instruments and lots of singing together
Gaya Ethaniel: Very hippipe I thought
Riddle Sideways: our cantor is very hippie
Riddle Sideways: she was a big sur folk singer
Gaya Ethaniel: ah
Riddle Sideways: but many temples don't have instruments
Riddle Sideways: just out-of-tune old guys chanting
Gaya Ethaniel: ah... ok
Riddle Sideways: many others have groups of kids
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: You fit right in there Riddle
Riddle Sideways: I think so
Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Allow me a little here.  Jews have been chanting their prayers for a couple thousand years.  That is a kind of music that is the root and fullness of those prayers.  To be singing the same songs that hundreds of generations have sung and will sing.
Yet, many congregations have introduced and/or elimited more musical intruments and choirs.  Newer melodies replace some old melodies.  Joyous, almost cheering rah-rah, versions replace some others.  The Cantor (song leader) is on equal stature as the Rabbi.
Having just spent a sunday morning gospel hour in a high meadow, I gotta say that those Christians sure can wrap music and faith together really tightly.  Hallelujah.

Riddle Sideways: however most is in hebrew
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Riddle Sideways: which I am not that good at
Gaya Ethaniel: ah well... no matter Riddle. Sure you have fun
Riddle Sideways: yes, fun I have
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: getting the meaning is different
Gaya Ethaniel: Hm... well I don't always understand words when listening to operas?
Gaya Ethaniel: That doesn't lesson my enjoyment...
Riddle Sideways: me either
Gaya Ethaniel: One kinda gets the idea
Riddle Sideways: the feeling
Gaya Ethaniel: Song without words...
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Gaya Ethaniel: I'm afraid duty calls
Riddle Sideways: Duty?
Riddle Sideways: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ... shopping for poseballs. Do drop by my plot sometime Riddle
Gaya Ethaniel: Lovely talking to you as always
Riddle Sideways: ok
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Gaya Ethaniel: Good day and see you soon. Ty