2009.03.01 01:00 - Cat's claws

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    As usually i arrived point 1:00 ^^

    Aelene Dawner: ^.^
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: morning adelene
    Moon Fargis: ^o^
    Adelene Dawner: mornin', Luv. ^.^
    Moon Fargis pokes the pillow
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Moon Fargis: strange the anim doesnt change
    Adelene Dawner: try now.
    Moon Fargis: huh
    Adelene Dawner: my flight wing was in the way of your click.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: ahhh
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Adelene Dawner chuckles ^.^
    Moon Fargis: morning wol °
    Adelene Dawner: Hiya, Wol ^.^
    Wol Euler: hello moon, ade
    Moon Fargis: ahh vampire wol :)
    Wol Euler: naah, an imp at worst.
    Moon Fargis: ahh ok
    Adelene Dawner likes the wings ^.^
    Wol Euler grins. Thanks, this was in the PixelDolls sale. $10.
    Adelene Dawner: Never did make it over there.
    Wol Euler: price of an uploaded screenshot. How can you go wrong?
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Moon Fargis: ^^ so how is everyone this morning ?
    Wol Euler: still sick and grumpy, thanks. And yourslef?
    Adelene Dawner: A bit slepy, here, but good ^.^
    Moon Fargis: ah im ok, what sickness hit you ?
    Wol Euler: just a flu of some annoyingly persistent kind.
    Moon Fargis: ahhh
    Moon Fargis: na an gute besserung :)
    Wol Euler: danke!
    Wol Euler: wird schon schief gehen!
    Squee giggles. that tickles.
    Squee: Possessing knowledge has two advantages: you judge less, and you judge better.
    Wol Euler: indeed.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Moon Fargis: well still we judge, i wonder if there are buddhism sutras about judgeing
    Moon Fargis: hmhm mso far i cant find some ... maybe later
    Adelene Dawner yawns a bit and zones out, contemplating mundane things.
    Moon Fargis: so hows pab going? is samuel still around ?
    Adelene Dawner: He was back a couple days ago, yes.
    Wol Euler: he has appeared twice that I know of, hasn't said much.
    Wol Euler: he came to Stim#s talk at Kira on contemplative traditions too, sat quietly
    Moon Fargis: hmhm
    Moon Fargis: maybe he starts to behave
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Wol Euler: :)
    Moon Fargis: as once caspian did
    Wol Euler nods
    Moon Fargis makes a cup of tea
    Adelene Dawner: It takes some effort on our part, but yeah, it's possible to get through to him with that. I had good success last time I saw him - he pulled that 'sitting on the ourskirts' thing again, and I went and sat on his lap. Seemed to get the desired reaction. :D
    Moon Fargis: ^^ he ran away?:)
    Adelene Dawner: Nope. Came and sat with the group, chatted, behaved himself. :D
    Wol Euler: good!
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Moon Fargis: ??•| mmh *nods* |•??
    Wol Euler: interseting.
    Adelene Dawner: There's a pattern there, but I'm not sure I can put it into words.
    Wol Euler: maybe if he comes to see this as "his nest" too, he'll stop pissing in it.
    Moon Fargis: hoho
    Wol Euler: (ade, does that fit? ;-)
    Adelene Dawner: Something close to 'one has to be agressively friendly with someone like that, for it to register'
    Wol Euler: mmhmm, that too.
    Adelene Dawner: That's the ultimate goal, though, yes, Wol..
    Bell: ding
    Adelene Dawner can do agressively friendly ^.^
    Moon Fargis nods ^^
    Adelene Dawner hmms...
    Wol Euler goes to get a cup of coffee
    Adelene Dawner tries to find words for the difference between her 'agressively friendly' and Susi's recent behavior. Respecting limits is one big difference.
    Wol Euler: when he hugged you?
    Moon Fargis: hmm loving friendly ?
    Adelene Dawner: Wol: That's part of it, yes; there's a pattern of behavior there.
    Adelene Dawner: It may not be very obvious but I'm actually pretty picky about who I allow to touch me - even my av. I'll tolerate some situations where I'm uncomfortable, with that, but Susi just keeps pushing, and he's goona get bit if he doesn't stop soon.
    Wol Euler nods. I gathered that.
    Wol Euler: should I have a quiet word with him?
    Adelene Dawner considers.
    Wol Euler wonders why she thinks that is her business or her role.
    Adelene Dawner: This is something I need practice dealing with, and in that sense I'd ratehr handle it myseld. But.... might be better for him, if you did.
    Adelene Dawner: *myself
    Adelene Dawner: *rather :P
    Wol Euler: as you wish
    Adelene Dawner grins at Wol'd wondering. :)
    Adelene Dawner simply cannot type today. I give up. ;)
    Moon Fargis knows what happens when cats are not fine when you touch them *looks at the scratches on his arms*
    Wol Euler: I do tend to go into "leap up and fix things" mode.
    Squee: Before I speak, I have something important to say.
    Adelene Dawner: Yes, Moon. That's one of the things I'm trying to practice with this av - being firmer, standing up for myself and what I want. But doing it in a way that's not actually damaging is still a priority too - which is most of why I haven't actually swatted him, I'm trying to find a way that's not going to be too painful for him.
    Adelene Dawner: (Which isn't going well...)
    Wol Euler nods
    Moon Fargis: well a simple sentence "please my friend, thank you for the hugs but i am a bit sensible when someone touches me and would please you to stop"
    Moon Fargis: or something like this
    Adelene Dawner: Yeah... I've tried that, a bit. Something very close anyway - same message. He seemed to get it, but hasn't stopped.
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm
    Moon Fargis: i think then you should try to tell it several times with the nice way
    Adelene Dawner is not a very patient feline, Moon. ^.-
    Wol Euler grins
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Wol Euler: odd to hear "patient" and "feline" in the same sentence.
    Moon Fargis slurps his tea
    Adelene Dawner: And really, if he doesn't 'get it' the first time I ask nicely, why should I think that he might get it the second or third time?
    Wol Euler shrugs. Perhaps he was distracted? Perhaps he thought it was a special case on a bad day...
    Wol Euler: I don'T wish to make excuses, he _should_ have grasped it. But not grasping ain't necesssarily disrespectful or provoking (which it might be in other certain other people).
    Wol Euler: IMHO YMMV Objects in mirror etc
    Adelene Dawner chuckles and nods.
    Adelene Dawner: The situation in question, it was pretty clear that we were talking about 'in general', and he responded in a way that seemed pretyt clearly like he'd heard and understood. So, I don't know what the issue is.
    Adelene Dawner: It's pretyt well moot at this point, I think.
    Wol Euler: do what you have to do, Ade :)
    Moon Fargis doesnt clean up blood btw ^^^
    Adelene Dawner: Next time he tries something, he's going to be told flat out that if he ever does it again, there will be consequences - and that's not an idle threat.
    Adelene Dawner giggles at Moon. ^.^
    Wol Euler: heheh @ moon
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Wol Euler: in other news, I noticed on my way downtown yesterday that the rosebushes in Johannesstrasse have started to leaf out!
    Adelene Dawner: cool ^.^
    Wol Euler: spring is nearly here.
    Moon Fargis: cool
    Wol Euler: spring is such an optimistic time :)
    Adelene Dawner shrugs.
    Adelene Dawner: It's actually my least favorite of the seasons - too windy, too much mud. :)
    Wol Euler: hmmmm. I can see that, Spring in Toronto in my childhood was 30 days of contant rain
    Adelene Dawner: Sounds about right.
    Adelene Dawner: It'll be interesting to see what springtime is like here, tho.
    Wol Euler: different here, the rain slows down for a while between winter snow and summer storms
    Wol Euler: ah, yes, first time in a new place.
    Adelene Dawner: Maybe we'll have a proper spring, here. In NJ, it goes from being cold and rainy and cold to being hot hot hot in the space of a week.
    Wol Euler: huh
    Adelene Dawner: Fall's the same, there - you get a week or two of nice mild crispness in between hot hot summer and too-cold-to-be-pleasant. Which is a shame - I like fall. :)
    Moon Fargis: hmhm i would prefer to ive in a country where no real winter is
    Wol Euler: I'd prefer to live in a country where summers were cooler. I really suffer at above 28°C or so
    Moon Fargis: also no salt on the streets wich means that the cars hold longer
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Wol Euler: (82°F, ade :-)
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm how about sweden ?
    Moon Fargis: or lapland in finland
    Adelene Dawner: Google informed me, Wol. I melt at about 80.
    Wol Euler nods. Or the north of Canada.
    Moon Fargis: brrrr
    Moon Fargis: i would prefer florida then :)
    Moon Fargis: mexico
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Moon Fargis: or kuba ?:)
    Wol Euler: cuba would interest me too for cultural reasons
    Moon Fargis: viva la revolution!
    Wol Euler: but in winter...
    Wol Euler: I would *love* to see Antarctica.
    Adelene Dawner: Oo, yes.
    Moon Fargis: yes then hurry before its melted :)
    Wol Euler: heh.
    Wol Euler: one might also say "hurry to see London, Hamburg and New York before Antatctica melts"
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Wol Euler: Ade, do you know "Skating to Antartica" by Jenny Diski?
    Adelene Dawner: Nope.
    Wol Euler: you might find the framing story, of Diski's miserable childhood and youth, upsetting. But when she gets to Antarctica, her descriptions are marvellous
    Adelene Dawner nods.
    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
    Adelene Dawner snuggles Moon.
    Adelene Dawner hmms... "I have an appointment in 12 hours, and I haven't slept in almost that long."
    Moon Fargis: hmhm
    Wol Euler: oops.
    Wol Euler: how is the 28 hour day coming on, Ade? Are you settling in?
    Adelene Dawner: It failed spectacularly. I have blackout curtains now, though... will try again soon.
    Wol Euler: oh dear.
    Adelene Dawner: Yeah - I'd forgotten that I can't fall asleep when the sun's out, unless I'm exhausted.
    Adelene Dawner: And even then, not really.
    Wol Euler: give yourself a few weeks of "normal timekeeping" first, perhaps...
    Moon Fargis: well human was made fot thousands of years for the 24h day
    Moon Fargis: those 24 h are in your genes
    Adelene Dawner: I've actually been going schedule-less for the last week or so. Which is really nice ^.^
    Wol Euler: actually, most creatures seem made for a 23.5 hour day :)
    Adelene Dawner: Humans tend to go to a 26 hour day when they don't have external cues.
    Wol Euler: if you put them in isolation and darkness, they settle into a "day" that is about half an hour short of the 24.
    Wol Euler: huh
    Wol Euler: I wonder what I wa reading, then :)
    Adelene Dawner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-running_sleep
    Adelene Dawner: hmm, that doesn't mention 26 hours, though.
    Moon Fargis: well forcing a sleep disorder..
    Adelene Dawner pokes Moon.
    Moon Fargis: still sounds not healty
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: yees ade i see sleep as the importanst thing in life like water and food and love
    Adelene Dawner: If it causes problems when I try it, I'll stop. This isn't even all that big an adjustment, as sleep modification goes.
    Wol Euler: an enjoyable thing too, I look forward to going to bed.
    Adelene Dawner likes being able to sleep whnever she feels like it - on downside of *any* sleep schedule. ^.^
    Squee: The day the child realizes that all adults are imperfect he becomes an adolescent; the day he forgives them, he becomes an adult; the day he forgives himself, he becomes wise.
    Wol Euler: I lived for a few years entirely by my body time, not the clock (I was selfemloyed, working at home)
    Wol Euler: I found that my natural schedule then was very early, I wuld get up sometimes at 5:30 am and be going to ed at 9pm
    Moon Fargis: ew self empoyed in germany.. poor wol ^^
    Wol Euler grins and shrugs. It worke for a while.
    Adelene Dawner: The last time I had no schedule to stick to, I tended to go to sleep just before the sun came up and sleep 'till early afternoon.
    Wol Euler grins.
    Adelene Dawner: Which was also what was happening before I tried the 28-hour thing - it's just not a very convenient schedule to have, since I'm also fairly useless when I first wake up.
    Wol Euler: it's fascinating, how different people are.
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm ^.^
    Moon Fargis counts the week until he is out of work and yaayys
    Moon Fargis: weeks
    Adelene Dawner: yay ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: how many?
    Wol Euler: mmm?
    Moon Fargis: maybe 12
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Wol Euler: and them?
    Wol Euler: *then
    Adelene Dawner: And then I'm kidnapping him for a month. ^.^
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: good.
    Moon Fargis: i finished my apprientiship hopefully
    Adelene Dawner: RLwise, even. :D
    Wol Euler: wow
    Moon Fargis: ohh ade
    Moon Fargis: i told my best frind that i plan to go to the U.S
    Moon Fargis: he said he also saved money a long time now to go there
    Moon Fargis: for tourists ofcourse ^^
    Adelene Dawner nods...
    Moon Fargis: and he asked me if it would bother me when he comes with me... well i personally have nothing against that.. he the one who is able to show my funny side in RL too... but i said i have to ask you first
    Adelene Dawner hmms.
    Adelene Dawner: My only problem with that is that I'm not sure I'm okay with having someone I don't know staying at my place.
    Moon Fargis: ehm we would rent some hotel or motel for this purpose
    Adelene Dawner: Not a problem, then. :)
    Moon Fargis: ahh
    Moon Fargis: well i also will upload some pictures of him so you can see how he looks
    Adelene Dawner: :)
    Moon Fargis: hmhm photos.. photos.. ahh picasa needs to scan the new ones .. right..
    Moon Fargis sighs as he has simply too much photos on his computer somewhere
    Adelene Dawner giggles.
    Wol Euler: damn, I sem to have broken the autologger last night :(
    Adelene Dawner: Oh dear :(
    Wol Euler: there's no database record for 19:00 yesterday, nor for this session right now.
    Moon Fargis: wheep
    Moon Fargis: hope he works for today?
    Wol Euler: not so far.
    Wol Euler: damn and blast.
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    Wol Euler: morning fael!
    Fael Illyar: Morning Wol, Moon, Ade :)
    Adelene Dawner: Hiya Fa ^.^
    Moon Fargis: ahh morning fael!
    Moon Fargis: arived well ?
    Fael Illyar: Yes, home again :)
    Moon Fargis: how are you gerbils ?
    Fael Illyar: They were a bit thirsty but didn't seem to have a big problem.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Wol Euler smiles
    Fael Illyar: they just drank one third of the bottle I refilled last night.
    Moon Fargis: wheew
    Fael Illyar: it's a small one but one refill was what they had for the ... umm 10 days think.
    Fael Illyar: Well, desert rats so they're adapted to not having water all the time :
    Fael Illyar: Food they appear to still have.
    Adelene Dawner yaaaawns, and starts puttering around getting ready to sleep.
    Fael Illyar: Good night Ade :)
    Adelene Dawner: :)
    Wol Euler: 'night ade, sleep well, be refreshed.
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: Have a good day, all. See you later.
    Squee: Time machines don't exist.
    Fael Illyar meeps happily.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: well wol.. did the auto recorder recored something at all now ?
    Moon Fargis: wich i can put up ?
    Fael Illyar: no it didn't, nothing is showing up.
    Wol Euler: no, there is alas no record for this session. You will have to get it from your chatlog
    Fael Illyar: we don't have recorder objects recording our speech it seems
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm ok ^^
    Wol Euler: but neither do I have hundreds of IMs saying that the system had failed...
    Fael Illyar: perhaps best to have them rez normal but change them phantom in the script
    Wol Euler: (object IMs from the scripts, I mean)
    Wol Euler: yes, I'll try that.
    Fael Illyar: well... the hundreds of IMs would most likely come from the listeners? right?
    Wol Euler: true :)
    Wol Euler: so they aren't being rezzed at all.
    Wol Euler: hellfire.
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Moon Fargis: this sl client doesnt log tthe chattext it seems
    Wol Euler: I'll send you mine, then, but I arrived slightly after you both. you'll hvae to get the first few minutes from Ade
    Moon Fargis: ahh one sec it logs but elsewhere
    Wol Euler: good!
    Moon Fargis: ahh
    Moon Fargis: or not.. darn
    Wol Euler: ok, then I will send you my log
    Fael Illyar: you can't copy&paste from your chat history?
    Moon Fargis: no prob i have all online so far
    Wol Euler: oh yes, of course.
    Moon Fargis: yes i just shall not logout now :)

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