2009.03.28 13:00 - Lots of Tiny Silvery Fish

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera, who posted this log.

    Pema Pera: Hi Wester!
    Wester Kiranov: Hi Pema!
    Pema Pera: We kunnen nu Nederlands spreken!
    Wester Kiranov: Totdat er iemand komt...
    Pema Pera: voor de verandering
    Pema Pera: ja, dat zal allicht niet lang duren
    Pema Pera: haha, inderdaad
    Wester Kiranov: inderdaad
    Pema Pera: goeiedag, Arisia en Scathach!
    Pema Pera: welkom hier!
    Arisia Vita: thanks
    Scathach Rhiadra: goeieavond!
    Pema Pera: ah!!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: no secrets here for Schathach . . . .
    Scathach Rhiadra: heh:)
    Wester Kiranov: you weren't going to say anything secret anyway ;)
    Pema Pera: what do you know, Wester . . . I may have been just about!
    Pema Pera: achtentachtig prachtige gaskacheltjes
    Wester Kiranov: LOL
    Pema Pera: now that will be a challenge for Scathach
    Pema Pera: hi Fef!
    Wester Kiranov: de kat krabt de krullen van de trap
    Pema Pera: de drukker drukt met droeve druk
    Pema Pera: ach was drukken maar wat drukker
    Wester Kiranov: doet onze ook echt :)
    Fefonz Quan: Hllo all :)
    Wester Kiranov: de kat, niet de drukker
    Wester Kiranov: hi all
    Pema Pera: een drukke kat?
    Pema Pera: hi Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: hiya everyone
    Pema Pera: don't mind our Dutch musings about cats and printers
    Mickorod Renard: no probs
    Wester Kiranov: very secret musings ...
    Pema Pera: and 88 beautiful canals
    Mickorod Renard: lol
    Scathach Rhiadra: hmmm, after taking ...?
    Pema Pera: tongue twisters in Dutch
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fefonz, Mick:)
    Pema Pera: after taking, Scathach?
    Fefonz Quan: Hey Scath :)
    Mickorod Renard: hiya Scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: I give up, too coloquial for me:)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Sophia
    Scathach Rhiadra: achten is behind?
    Pema Pera: achtentachtig is 88
    Scathach Rhiadra: ah!
    Mickorod Renard: ohh
    Pema Pera: achter is behind
    Pema Pera: with many "ch" like in "Scathach"
    Scathach Rhiadra nods:)
    Wester Kiranov: achtertachtig would be behind 80
    Pema Pera: imagine meeting 88 Schathachs . . .
    sophia Placebo: and chat lag
    Scathach Rhiadra: heehee
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    sophia Placebo: hi mick ,all ,sorry still rezzing and high risk for crash
    Pema Pera: schattig
    Mickorod Renard: np
    Pema Pera: I'm afraid we left everybody speechless, Wester . . . .
    Scathach Rhiadra: Fefonz, who have gotten the hammer ready for?
    Fefonz Quan: all those ahctentachtach sdpeakers :0
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Fefonz Quan: i will need to go for some minutes, brb
    Pema Pera: btw, we have this new suggestion: to be silent for 90 seconds . . . .
    Mickorod Renard: I was wathching your Avi typing and was expecting a huge response Pema
    Pema Pera: (the idea was Tarmel's, I worked out the details, Storm implemented it )
    Pema Pera: we thought we would try to periods of silence for a while, to see whether we like them
    Scathach Rhiadra: well, so far I like:)
    Mickorod Renard: hey,,has Fef disapeared?
    Wester Kiranov: I liked this one too
    Mickorod Renard: hi Qt
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello QT, Ara
    Wester Kiranov: hi Qt
    Pema Pera: hi there, Qt
    Qt Core: hi scth, mick
    Wester Kiranov: Wonder if Fef is going to come back to his previous place in the circle...
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Wester Kiranov: but it seems the other places are not much safer ;)
    Mickorod Renard: ;)
    Pema Pera: Hi Arabella!
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb Ara:)
    Wester Kiranov: hi ara
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
    Pema Pera: (I seem to be stuck in typing gestures today . . . )
    Mickorod Renard: I can only see Ara's name
    Mickorod Renard: sl probs I think
    Qt Core: i see her grey body and blonde hair, nothing more
    Wester Kiranov: same here
    Wester Kiranov: and some nice shoes
    Pema Pera pictures Arabella taking a mud bath on the shores of a small island . . . .
    Mickorod Renard: oh noo,,she has crashed
    Mickorod Renard: love the wisteria here
    Qt Core: ?
    Mickorod Renard: the flowering tree's
    Mickorod Renard: not sure what colour they are
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb Fef
    Wester Kiranov: wb fefonz
    Mickorod Renard: HIII,,Fef
    Fefonz Quan: should always wait 20 minutes before sitting...
    Fefonz Quan: seconds...
    Fefonz Quan: Hey all :)
    Qt Core: hi fefonz
    Fefonz Quan: hey Qt, Ara
    Wester Kiranov: hi arabella's hair and shoes - have you brought arabella with you this time?
    Mickorod Renard: Hiya Storm
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Storm:)
    Wester Kiranov: hi storm
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Storm Nordwind: Hello everyone :)
    Fefonz Quan: hiay storm
    arabella Ella: my system wont work well tonite
    Qt Core: hi storm
    Pema Pera: Hi Storm!
    Mickorod Renard: my mouse is being naughty
    arabella Ella seems to have a mind of her own
    Fefonz Quan: (when did the 9 got to ninety?
    Pema Pera: And thank you, Storm, for implementing the new bell conversation!
    Pema Pera: yesterday, Fef, as a special treat :)
    Storm Nordwind bows slightly
    Mickorod Renard: yes its great
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Fefonz Quan: so next interation will be 900?
    arabella Ella: or a week?
    Pema Pera: that's 100% dedication, yes
    Pema Pera: so far only 10% time tax
    Fefonz Quan: yes, you can't get over that
    Pema Pera: we just got a tax hike
    Pema Pera: we can try it for a while, see how we like it: 1% tax in RL and 10% tax in SL
    arabella Ella: :)
    Mickorod Renard: gets his calculator out
    Pema Pera: value added tax?
    Fefonz Quan: wel, in my RRL i pay 555 tax :)
    Pema Pera: ?
    Fefonz Quan: 55%
    Pema Pera: !
    arabella Ella wishfully thinks ... if only all taxes were like this one ... mmm
    Pema Pera: perhaps in a Really Real Life there is no tax, Fefonz?
    Fefonz Quan: than no one could support the poor ara ;-)
    Pema Pera: (you typed RRL)
    Fefonz Quan: yes sure
    arabella Ella smiles at Fefonz
    Fefonz Quan: i meant RRL
    Pema Pera: alas, I am in a coffeeshop without a power outlet, and my battery is running low, so I'll have to say goodbye . . . (>_<)
    Pema Pera: bye everybody!
    Mickorod Renard: bye Pema
    Qt Core: bye Pema
    Storm Nordwind: Bye for now
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Pema
    Fefonz Quan: Bye pema, till
    Pema Pera: (in between two RL errands)
    Wester Kiranov: doei
    arabella Ella: bye Pema
    arabella Ella: ouch
    Fefonz Quan: till they come up with the wireless power :)
    Pema Pera: welterusten Wester en Schathach
    arabella Ella: apologies but my chat is not always appearing here
    Scathach Rhiadra: tot ziens!
    Wester Kiranov: tot ziens
    Pema Pera: perhaps Scathach can chase your chat, Arabella
    arabella Ella: great idea
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Mickorod Renard: its proberbly chasing my mouse
    Pema Pera: a Cheshire chat !
    Fefonz Quan: are we through with the theme if this time slot?
    Wester Kiranov: :D
    Fefonz Quan: in this*
    Mickorod Renard: did we have one?
    Scathach Rhiadra: was that not earlier?
    Fefonz Quan: ok, fefonz punch himself on the head for replacing saturday for sunday..
    Mickorod Renard: I was saying how nice your wisteria is here Storm
    Fefonz Quan: those weekend days all look the same
    Fefonz Quan: whay is wisteria?
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you Mick. Yes I really like it
    Mickorod Renard: its those hanging flowering tree's
    Fefonz Quan: ok thanks.
    Storm Nordwind: Actually it often grows against walls, but free standing is good too
    Mickorod Renard: I have tried twice now to grow them in RL but to no avail
    Fefonz Quan: i just noticed the fountain water look white from a far and turquoise from aclose
    Storm Nordwind: I'll bet you could grown buddleia without any problem Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: yes I did,,they grow like wild fire
    arabella Ella: its probably the brit climate you have probs with mick
    Storm Nordwind: There's a light shining on it all the time Fef. That may affect what you see
    Mickorod Renard: well,,it was in France I tried
    Mickorod Renard: too dry I think
    Fefonz Quan: so turquoise is the original color i gues
    Fefonz Quan: guess*
    arabella Ella: may i quickly share an experience i had today?
    Mickorod Renard: ahh,,I see what u mean Fefonz
    arabella Ella: if my chat comes through ... smile
    Fefonz Quan: please do
    arabella Ella: ok ty
    Mickorod Renard: yes please
    arabella Ella: this morning i went to the sea to reflect and meditate for a short while
    arabella Ella: and i noticed this old wall
    arabella Ella: big blocks and thick in how it is built
    arabella Ella: and it is amazing how even something ... material ... makes an effort to survive the elements
    arabella Ella: as the bottom bit is all gone
    arabella Ella: so there is a gap between wall and sea level
    arabella Ella: yet there it stands majestically
    arabella Ella: resisting any forces that may make it collapse
    arabella Ella: yet not having any solid foundations to rest upon
    arabella Ella: a bit like us humans i reflected
    arabella Ella: that's it
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,was that an old Roman one?
    Fefonz Quan: (is it floating on the water?)
    arabella Ella: sorry to say it is not roman just only 200 years old
    Mickorod Renard: ok
    arabella Ella: yes it appears as though it is floating on water altho it is about one foot higher than water level
    Mickorod Renard: ahhh,,,they dont build them like the romans did
    Fefonz Quan: so what holds it?
    arabella Ella: but yet there is stands
    Storm Nordwind: Perhaps it stays there by "Art" ;)
    arabella Ella: holding on only since the huge blocks are resting on each other ... horizontally as there is nothing to hold it up
    arabella Ella: the bottom bit seems to have either been washed away or perhaps the rocks it was on have gone
    arabella Ella: but i think we are often like that
    arabella Ella: there was a wooden rod in the sea
    arabella Ella: and another thing i noticed was
    arabella Ella: with lots of tiny silvery fish trying to jump over it
    arabella Ella: and it seemed like they were practising hurdles
    arabella Ella: very pretty
    arabella Ella: and it reminded me of all the hurdles we have to face often on a daily basis
    arabella Ella: yet the fish seemed to do it so beautifully and effortlessly
    arabella Ella: so my reflection was
    arabella Ella: could we too attempt ... from what we do here ... to effortlessly surmound our own hurdles?
    arabella Ella: like the fish
    arabella Ella: playful
    arabella Ella: e3ffortless
    arabella Ella: beautiful
    arabella Ella: fun
    arabella Ella: overcoming
    Mickorod Renard: I think if you can look upon problems from that feeling of distance,,it does feel pplayful,,and even humourous
    arabella Ella: yes it does
    Mickorod Renard: just sometimes I get dragged into the brawl,,if u know what I mean
    Qt Core: i don't only think we can but also that it is the best way to do it
    Fefonz Quan: hello amandynha
    Mickorod Renard: I think you are right Qt
    Qt Core: (but that don't mean that it ios easy)
    arabella Ella: yes just relating this makes me feel much less angry ... and more peaceful ... in spite of my SL connection problems tonite
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes I feel I have been lured,,or conned into getting too close to a problem
    arabella Ella: could you look at that from a different perspective Mick?
    arabella Ella: a new point of view?
    Mickorod Renard: keeping that distance to see a problem in its whole is a skill I would like to learn
    arabella Ella: it is upto you to learn it i think INHO
    arabella Ella: IMHO
    arabella Ella: not easy ... not impossible
    Mickorod Renard: having the pressence of mind to recognise beeing lured in
    arabella Ella: yes and to try to look at it from above and beyond
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    arabella Ella: as though you are an onlooker and not directly involved yourself
    Mickorod Renard: I do manage it well,,but not well enough
    arabella Ella: time and patience mick ... especially the latter ... smile
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    arabella Ella wonders whether anyone else has any other experiences to share too?
    Fefonz Quan: i find sometimes it help if you imagine how will yourself look at it backwards five years from now
    arabella Ella: yes
    Mickorod Renard: yes Fef,,a good idea
    arabella Ella: altho i prefer a sort of out of body point of view myself
    arabella Ella: like seeing a movie of yourself
    Mickorod Renard: I prefer out of range myself
    arabella Ella smiles
    arabella Ella: not always possible mick as we all well know
    Mickorod Renard: ;-)
    arabella Ella: i like the image of a duck ... water just slides off the feathers but does not penetrate them
    Fefonz Quan: this looking back for me is easily related, because if you look back at prblems from years ago, you tend to see how small tehy were on the big picture of your life
    arabella Ella: yes that is so true Fefonz
    arabella Ella: altho i must admit i think i would find that rather difficult to do
    arabella Ella: due to the subjectivity of problematic experiences
    arabella Ella: but i am finding i can see things from a distance while still involved in them
    arabella Ella: a meta point of view
    Fefonz Quan nods
    Qt Core: seeing things from "above" is quite easy (at least i found it easy) i find much more difficould act after seeing abd deciding
    Mickorod Renard: what are those sea creatures that act like jets,,consuming and blasting it out the back?
    arabella Ella: yes Qt our subjectivity often constrains us plus decisions are not always easy to take
    arabella Ella: and there are always other factors too ....
    arabella Ella: what sea creatures mick ... could you describe them please?
    Fefonz Quan: ? Mick?
    Wester Kiranov: what happened to our 90 seconds silence?
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, yes just wonderinf=g thast:)
    Scathach Rhiadra: that*
    arabella Ella: the hour is over i guess so no 90 min silence now
    Mickorod Renard: hi
    Wester Kiranov: the bell was ignored (or just not noticed) twice in the last hour
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Fefonz Quan was silently bserving his fingers appearing to type on a black keyboard
    arabella Ella: oh
    Wester Kiranov: and as far as I am concerned, if we're in this pavilion we might as well obeserve that silence period
    Wester Kiranov: *observe
    Fefonz Quan nods
    arabella Ella: yes Wester you are right of course ... I suggest you gently remind those of us who may forget ... me included ... apologies!
    Storm Nordwind can add another visual cue (like making the pool glow very slightly) for the 90 seconds - if people think something like that would help
    Fefonz Quan: yes, sometimes we don't have voice
    Fefonz Quan: .... silancio.....
    Qt Core: i was thinking about people who would like to shut their eyes in that time
    Storm Nordwind: I am going to add a small queit bell at the end of the 90 seconds
    Storm Nordwind: *quiet
    Fefonz Quan: cool
    Qt Core: so a gentle sound could be useful too at the ent
    Qt Core: ohh, ty storm
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes please, that would be good:)
    arabella Ella: yes ty
    Wester Kiranov: I'd like that
    Mickorod Renard: what about some budhist chant too?
    Mickorod Renard: or horns
    Storm Nordwind: Pema only requested this 3 hours ago, so this the first outing. Thank you all for the feedback
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, don't think so Mick:)
    Fefonz Quan: there are groups in SL for that Mick :)
    Storm Nordwind throws a cushion at Mick
    Mickorod Renard: he he he
    Storm Nordwind: Does anyone want a visual cue too (in addition to the green lines of text)?
    Fefonz Quan: yep!
    Mickorod Renard: please
    Storm Nordwind: I'll see what I can do that's subtle
    arabella Ella: i think a chat reminder by one of us here would help ... in regular chat ... not the script greeny type
    arabella Ella: plus the bell at the end of 90 sec too ... would be great
    Wester Kiranov: a reminder in the chat, i think that's a good idea
    arabella Ella: mind you the green script is great but some times when engrossed we (means I) tend to overlook it
    Storm Nordwind remembers Moon's sirens and fireworks at the old Pavilion in Rieul >.<
    Wester Kiranov: ty ara
    arabella Ella: :)
    arabella Ella: i must go now
    arabella Ella: bye everyone
    Qt Core: bye ara
    Mickorod Renard: bye Ara
    Wester Kiranov: bye ara
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Ara, have a good night:)
    Fefonz Quan: bye Ara :)
    arabella Ella: hiya crashed and cant seem to TP
    arabella Ella: bye again
    Mickorod Renard: sneeking off now folks,,thanks
    arabella Ella smiles
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Qt Core: bye mick
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Mick:)
    Mickorod Renard: have a nice weekend
    Fefonz Quan: bye mick
    Storm Nordwind waves to Mick
    Wester Kiranov: bye mick
    Wester Kiranov: (reminder: silence coming up shortly)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Fefonz Quan appereciate the beautiful sounds of the birds here
    Fefonz Quan: (though can be accused by bying to fakes to quickly)
    Fefonz Quan: too quickly*
    Wester Kiranov: I'll go now. bye!
    Qt Core: Bye wester
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Wester, good night:)
    Wester Kiranov: welterusten scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: tot ziens:)
    Scathach Rhiadra: I must go too, good night all, namasté
    Fefonz Quan: namaste Scath :)
    Storm Nordwind: Namaste
    Fefonz Quan: I'll be on my way too, Bye Storm, Qt :)
    Qt Core: bye Fefonz
    Storm Nordwind: Me too I think. Bye everyone
    Fefonz Quan: (btw - are you familiar with the new visitor?)
    Storm Nordwind: No
    Storm Nordwind: Just passing through I guess
    Fefonz Quan: ok, at least no chatting from him
    Fefonz Quan: see you
    Storm Nordwind: Let us leave her to snooze
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