2009.04.05 07:00 - Meeting Sophia

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    I sat alone for twenty minutes or so and then Sophia arrived. We sat silent for much of time, while I fumbled for a topic. I did value this chance to talk with Sophia. I have left the rest of the log without comment

    sophia Placebo: hi adams
    Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
    Adams Rubble: It has been a very quiet morning so far :)
    Adams Rubble: How are you?
    sophia Placebo: im fine thanks ,how are you ?
    Adams Rubble: I am good thanks :)
    sophia Placebo: very qiuet
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: Do you have anything you would like to talk about?
    sophia Placebo: not really ,my brain is switching to silent mood today
    Adams Rubble: :)
    sophia Placebo: willing to listen carfully
    Adams Rubble: I am feeling a bit the same way
    sophia Placebo: :)
    Adams Rubble: I have only been with you in large groups I think and haven't had a chance to get to know you so well yet :)
    sophia Placebo: oh , I dont know how to tell you who I am :) best answer would be ,better to discover it yourself
    Adams Rubble: :)
    sophia Placebo: im pretty new here I think , hadnt been in many meetings so far
    Adams Rubble: Have you been trying the nine second pauses?
    sophia Placebo: where?
    Adams Rubble: Anywhere :)
    Adams Rubble: One of the basic ideas of Play as being is to stop very 15 minutes for 9 seconds
    sophia Placebo: oh , im not sure if i did that on that time accuracy but i guess i try being silent from time to time
    Adams Rubble: That is the important things
    Adams Rubble: thinbg
    Adams Rubble: thying
    Adams Rubble: thing
    Adams Rubble: :)
    sophia Placebo: silence is strange sometimes
    Adams Rubble: Yes
    Adams Rubble: Sometimes it is more comfortable than others :)
    sophia Placebo: ans some time it carries comfortableness and the opposite in the same time
    Adams Rubble: yes
    sophia Placebo: usually poeple are more comfortable if someone start talking about anything rather being all sitting silent
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Adams Rubble: yes
    sophia Placebo: but at these situations poeple themselves would feel more comfortable if they were not the talking
    Adams Rubble: Yes, probably :)
    Adams Rubble: Funny, I have been here ten months and have done my share of just chatting away
    Adams Rubble: Suddenly I am feeling more that I should be listening
    Adams Rubble: You speak Arabic :)
    sophia Placebo: yes
    Adams Rubble: I started to learn Turkish a long time ago but got sidetracked
    Adams Rubble: I was very intersted in Seljuk and Ottoman architecture
    sophia Placebo: i see
    sophia Placebo: i tried to learn some Turkish when i visited Turkia but i only managed to know those shared words btw Arabic and Turkish
    Adams Rubble: Yes, and many of those were purged out of the language by Attaturk
    Adams Rubble: Do you have an background in Islam?
    sophia Placebo: I'm muslim
    Adams Rubble: Ah :)
    Adams Rubble: I was at the Friday prayer two weeks ago here in SL
    Adams Rubble: It is wonderful to have yopu in the group :)
    sophia Placebo: really , nice ,what do you think about it re friday prayer
    sophia Placebo: oh ty :)
    Adams Rubble: It was a good experience to be able to attend as a non-muslim
    Adams Rubble: I found the imagery very different.
    Adams Rubble: The same things were being said but it was almost a different language
    Adams Rubble: although it was translated into English
    Adams Rubble: I want to go back again
    sophia Placebo: did you attend it in real life?
    Adams Rubble: I had the idea that the talk was a translation of something someone else had given somewhere else...maybe historical
    Adams Rubble: no here in SL
    Adams Rubble: through Islamonline
    sophia Placebo: yes
    Adams Rubble: I think it is great that they have created the virtual hajj
    sophia Placebo: I had the idea that the talk was a translation of something someone else had given somewhere else...maybe historical
    Adams Rubble: It was a bit harsh and full of images of Persian princes
    Adams Rubble: does that make sense
    Adams Rubble: I don't have anything to compare it to in my experience
    sophia Placebo: the prayer?
    Adams Rubble: the prayer was separate and beautiful
    sophia Placebo: so what were you describing then?
    Adams Rubble: there was a "lecture" beforehand
    sophia Placebo: oh yes ,i see
    sophia Placebo: this is unique for friday prayer only ,two lectures or speeches ,one is about glorafiying allah and the second about the most important issues in muslims daily life
    sophia Placebo: it is dependant on the ability of the speaker
    Adams Rubble: Oh now I see. I was talking about the second lecture then
    Adams Rubble: thank you for clarifying that for me
    sophia Placebo: what was it about?
    sophia Placebo: np:)
    Adams Rubble: It was much about clarifying the differences between Judiasm, Christianity and Islam
    sophia Placebo: i see , how it sounded like persian prince ?:)
    Adams Rubble: there were references to Persian princes in it..unfortuantely that part was lost on me
    sophia Placebo: ok
    Adams Rubble: I think I am feeling we need to emphasize what we have in common. That we are saying much the same things with different language and imagery
    sophia Placebo: very true , but what i felt is that poeple like to keep it that way
    Adams Rubble: keep it separate you mean?
    sophia Placebo: keep talking about same thing in diffrent ways and languages
    Adams Rubble: It is hard to find common language sometimes
    sophia Placebo: indeed
    sophia Placebo: the play as being idea is really great , letting poeple talking about one topic from diffrent point of veiws, that allow us to see the similarties much easier
    Adams Rubble: :) yes
    sophia Placebo: in debates we concentrate about diffrences , wanting to win the debate
    Adams Rubble: yes, that is a very good point
    Adams Rubble: Here we start at the end :)
    Adams Rubble: Which is what we have most in common...not how we get there
    Adams Rubble: basic seeing
    sophia Placebo: children hearts i would say, i dont know why i call it this
    Adams Rubble: :) yes
    Adams Rubble: being open to everything
    sophia Placebo: more than open , borderless
    Adams Rubble: could you say more about borderless?
    sophia Placebo: im afraid not , got to go now ,and my brain is not helping me getting the right words
    sophia Placebo: sorry
    Adams Rubble: np. It was good to have a chance to chat with you :)
    sophia Placebo: me too adam
    sophia Placebo: see you later
    Adams Rubble: bye for now :)

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