2009.04.30 19:00 - Walking Meditation

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Sylectra Darwin but she was absent so stevenaia Michinaga claimed the chat log. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

    I arrived late so the initial conversation began without me or any comments.

    Pila Mulligan, Eliza Madrigal, Eos Amaterasu and were present at the beginning and I arrived later.

    Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :)
    Pila Mulligan: how are you?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, you?
    Pila Mulligan: fine thanks
    Pila Mulligan: microwaving a bite to eat
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Sounds like a plan...I'm going to put on tea, brb
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza & Pila
    Eliza Madrigal: Pila is microwaving dinner :)
    Eliza Madrigal: How are you today, Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: I'm okay.... there's a fire nearby in RL here that burned down some houses
    Pila Mulligan: hi Eos -- sounds terrible having a fire like that
    Eliza Madrigal: Eek
    Pila Mulligan: are you at risk?
    Eos Amaterasu: I don't think so - it's 1 or 2 km away - smoke was spectacular earlier today, but then heard about houses evacuated
    Eos Amaterasu: I probably know some people affected
    Pila Mulligan: well, I hope the community will turn out to help them -- that is a devastating loss
    Eliza Madrigal: Certainly
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, that's happening, the up side of disaster
    Pila Mulligan: how's the weather?
    Eos Amaterasu: Disaster can bring us closer to Being, perhaps
    Pila Mulligan: indeed, and closer to each other
    Eos Amaterasu: Clear and windy, which is not good, but rain forecast
    Pila Mulligan: is your neighborhood forested?
    Eliza Madrigal nods. We're all one in a major storm
    Eliza Madrigal: and we know it
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, it is fairly woodsy, plus on the city edge
    Eliza Madrigal: We've had fires nearby this week also, but not near homes.
    Pila Mulligan: did the fire start in a house or a forest, or do they know yet
    Eos Amaterasu: I believe it started with a brush fire yesterday, then got amped up today by the wind
    Eos Amaterasu: people described it swooping down with 30 foot high flames - things can change very quickly
    Pila Mulligan: yes, with wind a fire can move quickly
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed they can.
    Pila Mulligan: hi SophiaSharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I remember before Hurricane Andrew, I packed just pictures to take, as far as 'things'
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Sophia!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sophia :)
    Pila Mulligan: Eos has been describing his experience of a destructive fire that is burning in his neighborhood now
    SophiaSharon Larnia waves
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh no
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I hope you and yours are safe
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, we are okay, but others not so far away are not their
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sending light :)))
    Eliza Madrigal: Shall I grab the log?
    Pila Mulligan: sure Eliza
    Pila Mulligan: last year some former neighbors on another island, both age mid-70's, had their house of many years washed away in a flash flood, they just got out in time -- but I remember how full their house was of photos and memorabilia
    Pila Mulligan: such a personal loss
    Eliza Madrigal: Aw...tough at that age I'm sure :(
    Pila Mulligan: even with them safe personally
    Eliza Madrigal: Animals okay?
    Pila Mulligan: they had no animals in the flood, or is thie asking Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: People talk about bringing just their children and their pets
    Eliza Madrigal: I was asking you Pila. Animals are so vulnerable in those situations...often people can't back to their homes
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: Eos...glad. Certain communities are more sensitive to the animals than others...i.e. shelters and such
    Eliza Madrigal: We've gotten better about that here in Miami
    Eliza Madrigal: Years ago people wouldn't leave their homes during evacuations because they would be forced to leave pets
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia, pretty butterfly on your shoulder :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you it was a freebie lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Best sort of butterfly. hah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've vowed not to spend any more money here, for a while haha
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Enjoy shopping, eh?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i like different things and try them
    Eliza Madrigal: So many opportunities to be expressive in SL
    Eos Amaterasu: little bits of celebration
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!! wonderful way to express that!
    Eos Amaterasu: in the midst of vulnerability
    Eliza Madrigal nods

    I arrived....

    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steven
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, that too
    stevenaia Michinaga: evening
    Eos Amaterasu: hi Steve
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eliza, Shopia, Eos
    stevenaia Michinaga: Sophia
    Eliza Madrigal: hehee...great typo there. We were talking about shopping
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: my favorite
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: earlier Eos was describing his experience of a destructive fire that is burning in his neighborhood now
    Pila Mulligan: so we are sending him light and love and cool vibes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: how unfortunate for someone
    Pila Mulligan: and talking about shopping :)
    Eos Amaterasu: ^_^
    Eliza Madrigal: We should do a rain dance
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) yes we should
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what set off the fire?
    Eos Amaterasu: brush fire, but unclear how started yet
    stevenaia Michinaga: did someone clam the log in Sylectra's absence?
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: I did Steve, but if you'd like to, please feel free :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I missed my morning session so is balancing :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: up to you, happy to
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay, thanks Steven :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: no problem, I will be down to one session soon so , why not
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's right! You've been doing two sessions for a while haven't you?

    Sophia asked about breathing from a discussion previously...

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Pila, I read on a pab log a while ago, about you speaking about belly breathing
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pila Mulligan: an excellent thing to do :)
    Pila Mulligan: belly breathing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you described that the experience can be disconcerting for some, can you explain?
    Pila Mulligan: well, the practice increases the internal energy flow
    Pila Mulligan: and sometimes that results in things that are not afamilair
    Pila Mulligan: and those may e disconcerting
    stevenaia Michinaga: hyperventilating?
    Pila Mulligan: not really
    Pila Mulligan: just stronger breathing
    Pila Mulligan: ordinary breaths plus some extra
    Pila Mulligan: it is the extra that may make you feel goofy, Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i had forgotten to do that until i read it, and started again consciously
    Pila Mulligan: how do you like it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) better, when i get busy and forget again, when i do it, i feel calmer
    Pila Mulligan: usually after a while the conscious effort recedes as belly breathing is quite natural thing to do
    Pila Mulligan: it can become a habit ... again
    Pila Mulligan: it is what we all do as babies
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and with that, remember where i heard it again (pab) and reminds me to appreciate
    stevenaia Michinaga: would do that when I did yoga too
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Nice, Sophia
    Pila Mulligan: yoga is excellent for coordinating breath and movement
    SophiaSharon Larnia: all intertwined really
    Eliza Madrigal: In yoga, there are sometimes breathing exercises where you hold your breath and take more and more in as that gets comfortable...
    Pila Mulligan: those can be even more evocative of goofy feelings, too
    Eliza Madrigal: strange sensation
    Eliza Madrigal: And yet...moments of great stress, it can be helpful
    Pila Mulligan: in my experience the best remedy for goofy feelings is working on exhalation
    Eliza Madrigal: And with those, exhaling is extremely important
    Eliza Madrigal: Gmta :)
    Pila Mulligan: gmta?
    Eliza Madrigal: And sometimes counting that exhalation lasts longer than the inhale or holding
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it is, under stress i have felt like i was in a bell jar of calmness, and feel calmer there, but this is healthier
    Eliza Madrigal: (great minds think alike)---goofy shorthand
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes...more being where you are than going somewhere else
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes thats it

    The conversation moves on to "walking meditation"

    Eliza Madrigal: I've still not gone back to doing yoga. Last night was in a discussion about walking meditation though, and then read the logs this morning to see that some of you were talking about that also
    Eos Amaterasu: Walking is one of my main practices
    stevenaia Michinaga: I mentioned that last night
    Pila Mulligan: Steve's drifting through Manhattan like a cloud :)
    Eliza Madrigal nods...yes, liked reading about that
    stevenaia Michinaga: more like time lapse movie
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: but only as an example, I really drive like a NYC cab driver with great enjoyment in Manhattan
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Appreciating everything?
    stevenaia Michinaga: when in Rome
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm a big walker...but not slowly or as purposefully as what 'walking meditation' seems to be. I walk with audio tapes to process.
    Pila Mulligan: probably similar Eliza
    Pila Mulligan: or music
    Eos Amaterasu: I walk at brisk pace, through a beautiful "dingle" nearby, no iPod, analog
    Pila Mulligan: and what, pray tell, Eos, is a dingle?
    Eos Amaterasu: It's a kind of dale....
    stevenaia Michinaga: dale?
    Pila Mulligan: thanks (dictionary: 'a wooded hollow')
    Eos Amaterasu: I think it's a kind of little valley, in-between, wooded place
    Eliza Madrigal: Ahhh. Very nice. I also like your idea of 'Analog Sundays', Eos.
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: name given to Fleming Park nearby here, named after Sir Stanford Fleming who developed time zones concept
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, Analog Sundays, kind of 0th life :-)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: The walking is probably close to what Pema calls appreciating the presence of phenomena
    Eos Amaterasu: no mind, so to speak, but everything happens
    Eos Amaterasu: sometimes I walk through a cacophony of crows, literally
    Pila Mulligan: cool
    Eliza Madrigal: Very
    Eos Amaterasu: intense :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd like to walk more quietly...can't say I'm that disciplined yet. The ipod is a kind of buffer for me...and I feel that I process better while moving.
    Eliza Madrigal: Something I'd like to cultivate
    Pila Mulligan: it is like a substitute for a mantra, maybe you should do mantra instead, ELiza
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: At home I'm quiet, and I do like mantra
    Pila Mulligan: ever make up a mantra?
    Pila Mulligan: it's fun
    Eliza Madrigal: "I choose to wake up" was running in my head for a few days...not quite a self-made mantra though :)
    Pila Mulligan: let's say your discipline notion relates to bhakti (devotion)
    Pila Mulligan: so what would be a nice term for waking up
    Pila Mulligan: mantra term
    Pila Mulligan: chit? awareness
    Pila Mulligan: om chit bhakti
    Eos Amaterasu: ah
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go, see you all soon
    Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
    Eos Amaterasu: bye!
    stevenaia Michinaga: bfn
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Steve
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Steven :)

    ...I departed

    Eliza Madrigal: 'Sat Chit Ananda'
    Pila Mulligan: yes
    Pila Mulligan: om chit bhakti is not poetic enough though
    Eos Amaterasu: citta citta bang bang
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe...hahhah
    Eos Amaterasu: citta: mind/heart, or mind located in the heart....
    Pila Mulligan: chit citta chit citta chit citta om
    Pila Mulligan: there's a nice rhythm
    Pila Mulligan: for walking
    Pila Mulligan: with a blank step after the om
    SophiaSharon Larnia: "i chose to wake up" I have done that too Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, I do get mantras going thru sometimes synced with walking
    Eliza Madrigal: boom chicka wow wow
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: heheheh...sorry
    Pila Mulligan: fun
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you ever get so turn in you trip over something?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'll try it...might be a good transition point
    Eliza Madrigal: Good question Sophia...sort of like when driving depending on your area...one can indeed be a bit caught up
    Pila Mulligan: Sophia that is quite possible
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that is why i haven't tried it seriously, to uncertain of myself i guess
    Eos Amaterasu: it's kind of, wake up right here, wake up right here
    Pila Mulligan: well, there is a nice walking exercise that is just right for that
    Eos Amaterasu: & then you trip :-)
    Pila Mulligan: watch the air below your feet just before they touch the ground
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok
    Pila Mulligan: kind of a miniscule pause before the foot touches earth
    Eliza Madrigal: That will extend those moments also I imagine
    Pila Mulligan: so you feel the air
    Eos Amaterasu: Nice thing about walking in nature is ground is often soft, has texture, quality
    Pila Mulligan: yep, feet like earth
    Eos Amaterasu: springy
    Eliza Madrigal: MM
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i took a while last week in a park near my house, it was much prettier than SL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: took a walk **
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wondered why i come here then :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I live in a community and the vitacourse was fantastic...but they worried about people coming in to use the pool and gated it! Now, walking there is like a hamster wheel
    Eliza Madrigal: Still, there are marvelous people whose routine it is to walk there...
    Eliza Madrigal: have watched a man lose about 100 lbs..walking every day
    Pila Mulligan: cool
    Eos Amaterasu: !
    Eliza Madrigal: Very..he has inspired everyone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to go, see you later :))
    Pila Mulligan: bye sophia
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sophia. See you soon!
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao!
    Pila Mulligan: happy walking
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: is the fire under control Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: I get conflicting reports... but there is rain expected tomorrow
    Eliza Madrigal: Good :)
    Pila Mulligan: they use helicopters a lot here fro brush fires
    Pila Mulligan: with big buckets
    Eos Amaterasu: Hawaii, right?
    Pila Mulligan: yeas
    Pila Mulligan: plenty of weater to draw on
    Eos Amaterasu: They were doing that here, drawing from a lake
    Eos Amaterasu: Plus we're right near the ocean
    Eos Amaterasu: One benefit of "the dingle" is that at one point you can see horizon
    Pila Mulligan: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah...your area sounds lovely Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: It's special
    Eos Amaterasu: I think like a smaller version of what Central Park or Golden Gate Park is for people
    Pila Mulligan: it is very helpful to have such a place
    Pila Mulligan: a refreshing place
    Eliza Madrigal: And appreciated!
    Eos Amaterasu: natural being
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Pila Mulligan: so you both are near the Atlantic
    Pila Mulligan: the stormy Atlantic
    Pila Mulligan: it was my favorite ocean for many years
    Pila Mulligan: then I saw the Pacific :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: even the stormy Pacific :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I love the west coast of Florida....have to take mini breaks to enjoy it, but is marvelous
    Pila Mulligan: now it's my favorite :)
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: That man in my neighborhood...makes me think of the discussion earlier today and how one person living well, allowing illumination and change, can set off a sort of positive fire (inspiration).
    Pila Mulligan: true
    Pila Mulligan: 'this little light of mine ...'
    Eliza Madrigal: He isn't walking around telling everyone to lose weight, but I bet many people think "Wow....look at his dedication.."
    Eos Amaterasu: not talk but walk
    Eliza Madrigal: and it makes it a little easier therefore
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Pila Mulligan: the pounds are beyond language, to paraphrase :)
    Eliza Madrigal: : ) He is "dropping"
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: emptying :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes :))
    Pila Mulligan: with due respect to serious ideas
    Eos Amaterasu: lightening up
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed!
    Pila Mulligan: and in doing so his feeling better is also contagious
    Eliza Madrigal: Absolutely it is
    Eliza Madrigal: And not just about weight...about all sorts of things.
    Eos Amaterasu: yes we can
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: !!!
    Pila Mulligan: I loved that music video
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, yes, i think I know the one, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh yes....my dd played this a lot
    Eos Amaterasu: Molly Bloom
    Pila Mulligan: and will.i.am of Black Eyed Peas :)
    Eos Amaterasu: +1
    Eos Amaterasu: sometime, put together the last page of Ulysses with the last page of Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind
    Pila Mulligan: "Since the original posting on YouTube, the video has been re-posted a number of times by other users and as of February 23, 2008, the video had been watched a combined total of more than 22-million times..."
    Pila Mulligan: what do you get?
    Eos Amaterasu: side by side
    Pila Mulligan: can you reveal the result?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh will do that, Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: complementary reflections of something hard to say :-)
    Pila Mulligan: The final words of Molly's reverie, and the very last words of the book, are: 

    "...I was a Flower of the mountain yes when I put the rose in my hair like the Andalusian girls used or shall I wear a red yes and how he kissed me under the Moorish wall and I thought well as well him as another and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes. "

    Pila Mulligan: yes we can :)
    Pila Mulligan: so far I can only find the forest pages of Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind on line
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I have it on only audio.... let me see..."In the morning...
    Eos Amaterasu:

    "One thing flows into another and cannot be grasped. Before the rain stops we hear a bird. Even under the heavy snow we see snowdrops and some new growth. In the East I saw rhubarb already. In Japan in the spring we eat cucumbers."
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah yes...in the spring..
    Eliza Madrigal: MMMMMM. Nice Eos.
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: You brought it out, thank you :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Se Lah
    Eos Amaterasu: Well, I must go to bed. This was very special :-)


    Eliza Madrigal: Think dreams will be sweet for us all tonight.
    Pila Mulligan: yes, thanks Eos
    Eliza Madrigal: Nite Eos
    Pila Mulligan: best wishes to your neighbors
    Eos Amaterasu: Good night!
    Eos Amaterasu: Thnx!
    Pila Mulligan: alos
    Eliza Madrigal: (Did you see him sink into the cushion Pila?) hhehe
    Pila Mulligan: also
    Pila Mulligan: no
    Pila Mulligan: as he got up?
    Eliza Madrigal: It was like an elevator...yes
    Pila Mulligan: :0
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pila Mulligan: heavy
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Heavily Presenced
    Pila Mulligan: well, now, for desert I think I'll make a cinnamon toast with some peanut butter as icing :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Cinnamon toast is my favorite. :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: ever tried it with peanut butter?
    Pila Mulligan: the peanut butter kind of melts into it
    Eliza Madrigal: Peanut butter toast yes....and Cinnamon toast yes...
    Eliza Madrigal: Not Both together...but doesn't sound bad at all :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Add bananas for a morning breakfast even
    Pila Mulligan: I add the peanut butter after the toast is done, it melts on the waRM BREAD
    Pila Mulligan: YEP
    Pila Mulligan: opps
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Eliza Madrigal: MMM :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hah...Since I'm already thinking of breakfast, perhaps I should go to bed! haha
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Pila. Sweet dreams.
    Pila Mulligan: same to you Eliza
    Pila Mulligan: aloha
    Eliza Madrigal: Aloha
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