Moon Fargis: greetings cos :)
Moon Fargis: hi cal
Stargate Tone: Hello cos cal and moon ******
Moon Fargis: ^^
Stargate Tone: hearts
Stargate Tone: oh what a beautiful morning *
Moon Fargis: *smiles
Calvino Rabeni: Hello Cosmic, Moon, Star dears :)
Moon Fargis: so how is everyone today?
Stargate Tone: feeling wonderfull *
Stargate Tone: how r U ?
Moon Fargis: ok :) must prepare tea then i feel good too :)
Stargate Tone: ahhh
Calvino Rabeni: I feel good tonight :)
Stargate Tone: how about candy ?
Moon Fargis: ah got cake :)
Stargate Tone: woooooooow
Moon Fargis: but cake without tea is just half fun :)
Stargate Tone: ahhh
Stargate Tone: and the other half would be ?
Moon Fargis: tea ?:)
Qt Core: hi all, good morning
Moon Fargis: morning qt
Darren Islar: good morning everyone
Stargate Tone: good morning Qt
Moon Fargis: morning darren ::)
Moon Fargis: ah phone one sec
Stargate Tone: ah...sry; read wrong Ur line Moon
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hello
Stargate Tone: good morning Darren *
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: was afk, having cup of tea
Stargate Tone: how r U ?
Calvino Rabeni: Ah two more in the bush, welcome Darren and QT
Stargate Tone: **
Darren Islar: feel more in balance then the past few days
Moon Fargis: re
Stargate Tone: re *
Qt Core: that's nice
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Stargate Tone: well...
Stargate Tone: dont feel balanced at all, but sparkling *******
Moon Fargis: ahh good thing those grass dont burn
Moon Fargis: grasses
Darren Islar: :-)
Stargate Tone: *yes*
Stargate Tone: so wish that it wont breake Ur balance Darren :)***
Darren Islar: hmmmm, well always having problems with a good balance
Stargate Tone: as I had two such discussions this morning, that makes me sooooooo happy
Moon Fargis: ooh?
Darren Islar: :-)
Qt Core: so you can't really balance when you are flying, star ? ;-)
Stargate Tone: true
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Stargate Tone: well; dont fly atm
Stargate Tone: am soooo strongly in my body that it's luxury to me
Stargate Tone: but yes; have so huge much reasons to feel happy now
Stargate Tone: even before these discussions I felt so bad that I thought that this time I simply must ask when it's asked 'how r U', that if I may share my so bad feeling that why that is
Stargate Tone: so...feel still need to ask if I may share why I felt so bad ?
Darren Islar: sure
Qt Core: yes if you like to share
Moon Fargis: ok
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: please
Stargate Tone: as that happened that I went to meat a friend who so often invites me and I cannot go...so I thought I'll have only pleasent night and could continue helping myself...but...
Stargate Tone: this my friend had a vistior ...who's got this MS illness...so...now I'm MS ill....
Darren Islar: oh
Qt Core: MS ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: How we can releaseYou?
Moon Fargis: OMG MicroSoft ill! poor man
Darren Islar: still suffering from it Stargate ?
Stargate Tone: when one cannot use hands and feet normally...and by time it kills cuz that leads to worse things
Moon Fargis: but satar is i really good thing you got that multiple sclerose now ?
Moon Fargis: star
--BELL--
Stargate Tone: for a while untill the patient is well or for some other reason leaves me, but as he happened to fell in love with me,,,,he's not to leave me very easily
Stargate Tone: meaning my my existence
Stargate Tone: yes Moon ?
Moon Fargis: hmhm
Stargate Tone: ah yes; that's sure the prob that it sure is not good tihng at all
Darren Islar: wow
Stargate Tone: but...to him...
Darren Islar: you can't protect yourself form these influences Star?
Darren Islar: must be hard if you can't
Stargate Tone: as he's truly honestly willing to work with himself, as I told him of them earlier experiences I've helped
Stargate Tone: that's the point; I cannot
Stargate Tone: but
Darren Islar: and gettng out of balance ......
Stargate Tone: why I thought I'de share this here in Pab is, that I thought that all good advises would be good thing
Stargate Tone: ah well...sharing them phenomenas for this illness sure again makes limits what I can do ...even I'de need ...for example the houseworks
Stargate Tone: but yes;
Stargate Tone: in case anybody here can give advises how to release rage out of oneself....
Stargate Tone: that would help
Moon Fargis: often words can be good
Stargate Tone: as this person truely 'got it', what's the prob
Moon Fargis: damn shit fu**
Moon Fargis: this gives ease to pressure of the rage
Qt Core: for releasing rage i always found helpful to watch a violent movie/anime
Calvino Rabeni: Rage is to make the future different
Moon Fargis: sure it wonttake it away but then you can start to dealwith it more easy
Stargate Tone: you know what; that's something that wouldn't ever occure to my mind to advise this person, but Ur sooooooo right
Calvino Rabeni: What I feel is it helps to know what one wants and focus the power on that instead
Calvino Rabeni: Then believe in oneself
Stargate Tone: well; that's the point; as MS is based on that one cannot release ones rage cuz dont want to share anger around...
Darren Islar: I think both need to be done
Stargate Tone: and declines that completely
Darren Islar: the focussing on what you want, but also feeling the rage
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if there would be an ocean nearby
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: go to yell there on the beach
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if that beach is empty
Calvino Rabeni: The thing to release is the weakness behind the rage
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and no people there
Darren Islar: ah, nicely put Cal :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: let the ocean take it
Calvino Rabeni: Then the anger would not be needed
Stargate Tone: he lives in Helsinki; so; hard to find place but home where is not people around
Darren Islar: but if rage can take over in your body, it also needs to subside
Darren Islar: that is how the body works
Calvino Rabeni: It sounds simplistic but I think it works that way
Moon Fargis: well rage is the monkey in us being angry
Calvino Rabeni: Well I think Darren it's not good to be completely "taken"
Stargate Tone: as I'de like that I wouldn't this time need to suffer so long for this illness...and feel hope that advising him is possible
Stargate Tone: that he could make his own work better
Darren Islar: right, but at some point the monkey is getting boring to our mind
Moon Fargis: sure its not only to take good care of animals when dealing with our mind
Darren Islar: it is difficult, because if people don't know the techniques they probably don;t know how to use it
Calvino Rabeni: To take responsibility for the Monkey
Calvino Rabeni: treat it well :)
Darren Islar: and reject them
Darren Islar: yes, making the Monkey less angry :-)
Stargate Tone: ah yes; this guy is genius of his mind, so I believe that advises shall work out
Stargate Tone: oh if human mind would be such that one could just swich off such motions with some certain technic
Stargate Tone: *sigh*
Moon Fargis: well
Moon Fargis: human mind is adpotable
Moon Fargis: hmm
Moon Fargis: adaptable ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, well maby some day human braing is fully used ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wondering what kind that day might be
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
Moon Fargis: hmmm would say heavy times :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ? why
Stargate Tone: ah well...might it be the sugar and salt of life of human kind being, that such buttons are not there...
Darren Islar: well, the technique is not to switch it off, but to deal with it
Moon Fargis: cus of much pore possibilities for humans to make crap :)
Stargate Tone: but yes; when something turnes to be the illness, something special is needed
Moon Fargis: it dont need a full used brain to have compassion
Calvino Rabeni: Crap is something on its way to becoming fertilizer :)
Moon Fargis: or to feel love
Darren Islar: and sometimes you need to to that a lot of times, I'm afraid
Stargate Tone: ah yes; told him that forgiveness is the key
Darren Islar: :-) Cal, reminds me of the Lotus
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Stargate Tone: which he fully 'got it'
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3
Stargate Tone: but all plus to work with the rage is sure for help
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Simo also woke up to say Hi to You
Moon Fargis: ^^
Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
Stargate Tone: big smile *
Stargate Tone: give a kiss for me too ?
Calvino Rabeni: <3 to SImo
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yesss much kisses for Simo
Stargate Tone: hm...might it be time for me also to have something to drink; brb
Moon Fargis: *slurps his tea*
Moon Fargis: jnamm
Stargate Tone: b
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wb Dear
Stargate Tone: ty
Moon Fargis: hmm just loked a bit throught, drinking earlgray now but people cheat at 70% of the oearl grays that they dont add real bergamotte oil to it to give him his flavour but some chemical aromatic substances
Moon Fargis: anyway out of topic :)
Moon Fargis: so hmm star btw i found some bad primeaters yesterday on angelscry
Stargate Tone: hm
Stargate Tone: sound like star has made a mess again ?
Moon Fargis: ah no this time it was me :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: primeaters? What is it?
Moon Fargis: a mahjong table that didnt worked anymore
Moon Fargis: stuff that eats prims away ^^ such as a mahjong table
Stargate Tone: ahh...sad
Moon Fargis: njam njam njam like pacman :)
Stargate Tone: ahhhhhhhh
Stargate Tone: likes that also specially
Stargate Tone: but only to wach somebody else to play ****
Qt Core: the solitaire or the real game ?
Stargate Tone: real game
Stargate Tone: hm
Moon Fargis: hm well there are sure manny pacman clones
Stargate Tone: in case that's such in which such 'ball' eats other items
Moon Fargis: i liked "bombpac"
Moon Fargis: where he could place bombs
Moon Fargis: hehe
--BELL--
Stargate Tone: that was the first computergame I truly liked to see...'few' years ago :)***
Stargate Tone: my son played it so well in such big machine in the publick place
Calvino Rabeni: "QBert" I remember
Stargate Tone: ah; one minute and I'll get my special tea *
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sec, I go also for few min afk
Stargate Tone: could U Darren share any reason/s why you had lost Ur balance ?
Stargate Tone: and or why U now found back to it ?
Darren Islar: sorry, got a bit distracted
Darren Islar: well, I was confronted with the past
Stargate Tone: no need to sry
Stargate Tone: ohhhhhhh
Darren Islar: I feel a lot of grief about that
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Darren Islar: and having put myself in a position
Darren Islar: in which I need to allow other people to decide about what is going to happen to me
Stargate Tone: well...past is never past; we carry it in our spirit ...no matter what kind it is
Darren Islar: being partly disabled
Stargate Tone: **
Darren Islar: and depending on financial benefits
Darren Islar: giving them the right to tell me what to do
Stargate Tone: so there's sure sorrows to deal with...
Darren Islar: It is still not gone
Darren Islar: but we talked about nurturing yesterday morning
Moon Fargis: well you are your past even all what made you dont exist anymore
Darren Islar: and somehow that stuck with me
Stargate Tone: and shall not go, but can change by Urself *
Darren Islar: so I have been following my body, trying to listen better to it
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Darren Islar: and with that making more space for my mind
Darren Islar: putting it to rest
Darren Islar: a abit more that is
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Calvino Rabeni: also Darren
Stargate Tone: it's sure good to rest also...but....it's not rest that changes/purifies ...
Darren Islar: but being able to talk about it now here,
Darren Islar: shows that it is not that overwhelming anymore
Stargate Tone: so very right U r
Darren Islar: true Star, but it gives me a little bit of space
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Darren Islar: being able to address the process a bit better
Stargate Tone: *able to breath better*
Darren Islar: creating space to deal with it
Stargate Tone: so...can U feel pitty to these ppl ?
Darren Islar: I seem to have past the anger
Stargate Tone: **
Darren Islar: haven't felt that this time, until now
Stargate Tone: so the truth of their uncapability/weakness has somewhat reached Ur heart
Darren Islar: more my own grief of feeling trapped
Darren Islar: an not listened at
Stargate Tone: **
Moon Fargis: hmmm you drink tea darren ?
Darren Islar: no, in the mornings mostly coffee, I'm afraid :-)
Stargate Tone: could U think to try what tea can bring ?
--BELL--
Moon Fargis: ah no worrys :) but one says that you can feel natures voice over the tea
Stargate Tone: so nicely expressed *
Stargate Tone: I myself have had soooo beautiful adventures with them teas as Moon has guided me
Darren Islar: yes, I think I get the feeling :-)
Stargate Tone: and when to smell and taste and feel how this tea goes to sholders and help there, and this goes to the middle of the body and this brings more easy back to balance and so on :)***
Darren Islar: hmmmmm
Stargate Tone: even still misses coffee too; specially when needs to wake up to human world
Stargate Tone: ah yes; I'm an 'old fox' to deal with huge various probs, cuz I am what I am
Darren Islar: right, only drink coffee in the morning :-)
Stargate Tone: but there's huge wide world of teas :)***
Darren Islar: there is a part in my body that wants tea in the morning,
Moon Fargis: ahyes people invent more and more and more but i prefer the natural, unflavored ones often
Darren Islar: but I'm afraid the coffee part mostly wins :-)
Moon Fargis: (except earl gray and some others:)
Moon Fargis: lol
Stargate Tone: **
Moon Fargis: hmm aslong you dont mix tea and coffee together its ok
Darren Islar: :-)
Stargate Tone: well; also the add to earl gray is natural stuff; and special good 'holy' stuff
Moon Fargis: i once hadm ust to make hot water throught a coffee machine for the tea
Moon Fargis: god it was awfull
Calvino Rabeni: ACCK
Darren Islar: yes, you can't mix those
Darren Islar: ACCK?
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: brb phone
Qt Core: time to start the day, have fun... and tea or coffee ;-)
Darren Islar: :-) bye QT
Darren Islar: and I will
Stargate Tone: was nice to feel you again Qt; enjoy Ur day
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Have a good day Qt
Qt Core: Ciao!
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I drink only tea
Stargate Tone: ciao
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have never learned to drink cofe
Stargate Tone: I did that up to almost 30's; then one freind teached me that when the visitor comes, one must make coffee to him; that way I started to drink coffee
Stargate Tone: and it's price was even doubled soon after that,,,so...not good change...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was a awfull cofe maker, when did not drank it self, but learned also to prepare cofe to visitors ;)
Stargate Tone: **
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni likes coffee
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni likes tea also - green
Stargate Tone: some 'magic' there must be in coffee too cu
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah
Calvino Rabeni: But also it can be and "addiction
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: now I remember
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there have been one cofee I tooked to be good
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: one old woman made a cofe
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with pot
Darren Islar: all right that's it :-), I am going for my second cup of coffee
Calvino Rabeni: Have one for me Darren
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not with original cofe maker machine
Stargate Tone: Stargate tone likes many kind of teas; as even that very common yellow Lipton tea remained as the peace making drink with a friend
Calvino Rabeni: I can't right now :(
Darren Islar: I will Cal
Calvino Rabeni: ty
Darren Islar: espresso, expansive, but really nice coffee :-))))
Stargate Tone: was nice to met you; enjoy coffee :)***
Darren Islar: I mean real espresso :-))))
Darren Islar: cu all, and thanks :-)
Stargate Tone: ahhhh; got that in Italy; can enjoy that too
Stargate Tone: cu *
Calvino Rabeni: The real stuff, Darren.
Calvino Rabeni: YW Darren, have a great day
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Simo just got milk, now he is smiling with open month without teeths, his blue eyes open wide
Stargate Tone: ???????????????????????????
Stargate Tone: TEETHS ???????????
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: without
Calvino Rabeni: :)))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ikenet paistaen
Stargate Tone: AHH
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do not know how to put it on english..
Stargate Tone: sry; read wrong
Calvino Rabeni: loool
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol ;)
Stargate Tone: (have still not got my own eyesight completely back)
Calvino Rabeni: A toothless smile from a small child
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes ;)
Calvino Rabeni: The picture is in my mind
Stargate Tone: ah; you wrote exactly right, but >I read wrong
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I wanted to share
Stargate Tone: yes; sadly the smile of old person's toothless mouth is not nice
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: so qute ;)
Stargate Tone: *yes*
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do you want to hear a dream?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: two night ago
Calvino Rabeni: :)) yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it was about my rl brother, blood brother
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I went with kids and with one of my cousen to visit him
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to see him and his New apartment
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it was a flat on second or more up floor
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we woke him up
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: the walls was very white
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there were one room and a kitchen
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no much furnitures
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: in kitchen food table
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: he was sleeping on it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: he had also that other room
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there where a bed of his
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and a huge fire place
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: a size of one wall
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it was
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: like painted
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there were ceramic tiles , it was made from tiles
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and those tiles vere painted
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: some kind of flowery figures
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: much windows
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: the building it was a bit older
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not new one
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but apartment was lightfull
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: fire place
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there were doors closed
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: he had not used it yeat
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or not sleeped on that room on his bed
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: then I woke up
Stargate Tone: so there was no fire ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no, the fire place was there so he can warm it, but he had not used it. those fire place doors were closed
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but fire place was very beautifull, kind of romantic,
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or the kind what royalty might have had in old times
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or some hundreds ago
Moon Fargis: re
Moon Fargis: phew
Moon Fargis: ohmy
Moon Fargis: as older people get as more theyn eed to tell it seems :)
--BELL--
Moon Fargis: greetings from traute , star :)
Stargate Tone: thank you
Stargate Tone: greetings back
Calvino Rabeni: your dream place had a good feel I think Cosmic
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, there were, wery lightfull apartment with white walls
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was wondering why he did not sleep on his bed, but on the kitchen table
Calvino Rabeni: Sleeping on kitchen table :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Calvino Rabeni: Maybe he was dreaming there
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and I was a bit wondering also why he haven`t try his fire place
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: beacause it was so beautifull
Calvino Rabeni: It makes me think, in a new house, it would be good to sleep in several of the rooms
Moon Fargis: hmm also in the toilet ?:)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes there were also toilet, I assume it was a door of toilet
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: did not look at there
Stargate Tone: well; do you understand the message of that dream ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thats why asking
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and sharing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I know the apartment is One-self
Stargate Tone: ah...well..sry I didn't read any question *
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and take it to be his higher
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: *grings* sry
Calvino Rabeni: Maybe not in the toilet moon. But the bath...
Stargate Tone: yes; and he still sleeps in his own, but have not loved...and this his 'own' is the reason that he's not well...
Stargate Tone: so; the issue is that U and kids do something that he wakes up to that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: should go to visit him
Stargate Tone: _/!\-
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3
Calvino Rabeni: Forgets to sleep in own bed - focused on the children then?
Stargate Tone: so many people seek love from others, not noticing that they themself should love at first....
Stargate Tone: dont reveive from outside himself...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Moon Fargis: well my friends a bad tiredness catched me now so ill reatreat now and rest a bit still
Moon Fargis: was nice to see you again ^
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Calvino Rabeni: yes Moon
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: rest well Dear
Stargate Tone: I need also to lay down a bit so I'll retreat also *
Stargate Tone: wishing U good time dears *
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thank You for everything Dear
Stargate Tone: very dears *
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Rest well <33<33<33
Calvino Rabeni: Very nice meeting :)))
Stargate Tone: hearts
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