2010.07.01 13:00 - scary but good

The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

Qt Core: Hi Wol
Qt Core: so you DO have an antenna, i was wondering just seconds before you crashed
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: that must have been the reason, it attracted the bad vibes
Qt Core: :-)
Qt Core: and to think it is on the right side, (Joibs speaking here)
Bertram Jacobus: hey - you are early ! :-)
Wol Euler: hello bert
Qt Core: so it seems, hi bert
Bertram Jacobus: hey you :-)
Wol Euler: your english is fine
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey guys
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Qt Core: hi Yaku
Bertram Jacobus: hi yaku
Wol Euler: hello lia
Qt Core: hi lia
Lia Rikugun: hello everybody
Bertram Jacobus: hello lia ! ;-)
Lia Rikugun: :)

A new visitor is joining us: introduction to Play as Being :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lia, hey lennox
--BELL--
Bertram Jacobus: hi lennox
Yakuzza Lethecus: lennox come a little closer and have a seat
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am not sure everyone in the circle heard you since ur slightly under 20 meters to me
Bertram Jacobus: talking a bit
Bertram Jacobus: sitting here
Yakuzza Lethecus: have a pillow with us :)
Bertram Jacobus: enjoying the people here :-)
Bertram Jacobus: how did you find this place here ?
Wol Euler: hello lennox
lennox Leeeroy: just wandering along. Hi all
Lia Rikugun: hello lennox
Bertram Jacobus: i see - people here talk sometimes about "being" ... :-)
lennox Leeeroy: being?
Bertram Jacobus: yes, being. in contrary to "having" for example ... :-)
Lia Rikugun: we are discussing a little together
lennox Leeeroy: thanks for the card Lia
Lia Rikugun: it describes a little what we do
Lia Rikugun: "play as being"
Bertram Jacobus: i don´t discuss very much. i prefere to talk ;o)
Lia Rikugun: yes sorry wrong choice of word
Lia Rikugun: :)
Wol Euler: hello cal
Bertram Jacobus: no sorries necessairy - in contrary : i´m happy to read that you don´t want to discuss either as it seems lia ! (?) :-)
Calvino Rabeni: Good evening everyone
Lia Rikugun: the idea is also to take some time every day and just drop
Bertram Jacobus: hey calvino - namaste ! :-)
Lia Rikugun: and see what is behind all the facade
Lia Rikugun: what lies beyond that
Lia Rikugun: what is true
Bertram Jacobus: being ... ;-)
Lia Rikugun: so we meet here to talk about our expereinces
Lia Rikugun: yes bertram
Lia Rikugun: we also have a wiki online
Bertram Jacobus: mostly i like it simple
Lia Rikugun: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
Lia Rikugun: where we post all the chat logs from the sessions here in SL
Lia Rikugun: would it be ok for you if your name was visible there?
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes less is more ... hm - we all know ... already. i guess (?) ...
Bertram Jacobus: heyy arch ! :-)
lennox Leeeroy: ok by me, sounds interesting
Lia Rikugun: ok
Bertram Jacobus: happy to read that lennox :-)

I talk a little about an experience I had during a "sally": scary in the first place but then wonderful

Lia Rikugun: I had an interesting experience
Wol Euler: ah :)
Wol Euler: do tell
Lia Rikugun: well for me interesting
Bertram Jacobus: so often people ... it´s not easy to find the middle between consuming and producing ...
Lia Rikugun: I made a little sally
Wol Euler smiles.
Archmage Atlantis: Halo, everyone :)
Lia Rikugun: which is like travelling in my head
Lia Rikugun: hello arch
Wol Euler: hello arch
Lia Rikugun: well i encountered a scary situation
Lia Rikugun: but i decided to go along with it
Lia Rikugun: i could have stopped it and go back to a safer place
Lia Rikugun: but i was curious too
Lia Rikugun: and it turened out to be a wonderful story
Lia Rikugun: i ended up in a wonderful place
Lia Rikugun: so I am wondering about appearances and what might appear scary first but is not really
Lia Rikugun: are we fooled by our first impressions?
Wol Euler: sometimes :)
Bertram Jacobus: hello ton ! *wave*
Lia Rikugun: by our cultural background and every structure in the head
Bertram Jacobus: zon - sry lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zon
Zon Quar: heya all
Calvino Rabeni: scary things can be wonderful at the same time
Qt Core: often, a little less in virtual worlds where we know aspect is quite an unstable thing
Lia Rikugun: yes it has some energy
Lia Rikugun: it was maybe a little like sky diving
Lia Rikugun: it is scary but wonmderful :)
Lia Rikugun: (havend tried yet though)
Lia Rikugun: a break will come up
Lia Rikugun: where we keep silent for 90 seconds
--BELL--
Lia Rikugun: welcome back yaku
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
Bertram Jacobus: hy bleu (sry phone) ...
Lia Rikugun: hello bleu
Zon Quar: yaku, bleu
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Bleu
Wol Euler: hello bleu
lennox Leeeroy: hello
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu

A pause of silence ...

Lia Rikugun: sorry i didnt want to take over the conversation..
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes talks are nice, sometimes silence is nice ...
Lia Rikugun: :)
Bertram Jacobus: don´t you think so, too ? :-)
Lia Rikugun: yes
Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes listening to others talk, while being silent is nice, also :)
Lia Rikugun: :)

What is the meaning of the story? Or is the story itself enough? Is it meaningful to be scared sometimes?

Bertram Jacobus: so - what does your story tell you lia ?
Lia Rikugun: it was like a gift
Lia Rikugun: a scary person turned out to be a real friend
Lia Rikugun: showing me a wonderful place
Bertram Jacobus: ah - that theme sometimes comes up for ya, right ?
Wol Euler nods
Lia Rikugun: what do you mean bertram?
Bertram Jacobus: i mean, it´s not the first time that i hear such a story from you - or do i err ? hmm ...
Lia Rikugun: yes
Bertram Jacobus: why may that be ?
Lia Rikugun: maybe to remind me that there is no reason to be scared
Lia Rikugun: any situation can be turned into something meaningful
Lia Rikugun: maybe
Bertram Jacobus: hmm - my idaea is : when that is clear, it won´t come up anymore ... whether that is right ?
Lia Rikugun: i dont know what it means..
Lia Rikugun: when for me it is clear that nothing is scary it wont come up?
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i could imagine that - no ?
Bertram Jacobus: no thought or feeling then about that anymore ...
Lia Rikugun: i dont think i am particularly scared
Lia Rikugun: i dont know
Bertram Jacobus: who does (?) ...
Archmage Atlantis: Some things should be scary.........it is normal, it is what we do with the feeling that is useful, in my opinion
Wol Euler nods. And unforttunately our intuitions are sometimes right. Some people or situations *should* scare us
Lia Rikugun: i think so too, but nothing should be soo scary that you are blocked
Qt Core: i sadly have to go, bye all
Lia Rikugun: bye Qt
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care qt
Bertram Jacobus: "it is what we do with the feeling that is useful" - ? i don´t understand that, sadly ... sry
Lia Rikugun: (actually I dont want to give the story too much interpretation, i just want to take it as it is, a change of the story line, and a nice gift)

where is Pema?

Bertram Jacobus: why don´t we see pema anymore ? or is it only me ?
Lia Rikugun: he is in japan i think
Lia Rikugun: so sleeping tightly now probably
Bertram Jacobus: i need a world watch ! :-)
Wol Euler: yes, he's in Japan with Eliza!
Bleu Oleander: he is starting a time session fridays at 6am slt tomorrow
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: AHEM
Bertram Jacobus: ah - too bad - then i have to work here ... in fl i mean ... :-(
Bertram Jacobus: lol

Lucis is joining us with an interesting outfit, a snake enrolled his avatar :)

Bertram Jacobus: hy lucis
Lia Rikugun: hello lucis take seat
Bleu Oleander: hi Lucis
Lucis Raynier: hy ))))
Wol Euler: hello lucis, welcome back
Lia Rikugun: have you been here before?
Lucis Raynier: hello!
lennox Leeeroy: hi
Lia Rikugun: oh ok i guess :)
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: what an interesting outfit
Bertram Jacobus: heavy snake lol
Bertram Jacobus: scary ! ;-)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello lucis
Lia Rikugun: haha!
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: how´s the breath ?
Lucis Raynier: hello Yaku
Lucis Raynier: ok))
Bertram Jacobus: may be he´s a gift for us, too ? ;-)
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: yes :)
Lucis Raynier: whata gift?
Bertram Jacobus: we talked about scary things which can be turn into gifts lucis ... (!) ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: - be
Lucis Raynier: well
Archmage Atlantis: In the swamps around me the alligators and the pythons fight to the death, trying to eat each other - A constritor would be an interesting addition.
Bertram Jacobus: and i´ll put a substraction : leave - ty all and may all beings be happy plz ! ;-)
Lia Rikugun: in RL?

Bertram, Archmage, Bleu and Lennox are leaving

Wol Euler: bye bert, take care
Lia Rikugun: bye bertram!
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Bert
Bleu Oleander: bye Bert
Bertram Jacobus: namaste- ty
Lucis Raynier: bye Bert
Yakuzza Lethecus: namate bert
Yakuzza Lethecus: namaste
lennox Leeeroy: bye Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: :-))
Bleu Oleander: bfn :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
Archmage Atlantis: Nice seeing you all.......I am going to need to go......time for meditation......Bye all :)
Wol Euler: bye bleu, bye arch
Lia Rikugun: bye arch and bleu
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye arch
Lia Rikugun: take care
lennox Leeeroy: bye
Wol Euler: bye lennox
Wol Euler: oh, were you talking to arch? :) sorry
Lia Rikugun: :)
lennox Leeeroy: sorry o have to go now. Interesting
Lia Rikugun: nice to have you here lennox
Lia Rikugun: byebye
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care lennox
Lia Rikugun: hehe

Again a small silence and Yaku raises an interesting question:

Yakuzza Lethecus: sometimes i wonder under which circumstances i percieve silence as refreshing and under which i don´t
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: now did you perceive it as refreshing?
Wol Euler: a good question
Calvino Rabeni: Good question
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, right now it´s actually more pleasant then it´s like when i come home from work and attend the 7 am session
Lucis Raynier: My silence - because I have some problems with English Language )))

We talk about russian and where we come from, what countries we have visited...

Yakuzza Lethecus: whats ur native language lucis ?
Lia Rikugun: :) practice practice
Lucis Raynier: russian
Lia Rikugun: minja sawut lia
Lucis Raynier: wow
Lia Rikugun: soemthing like this?
Lucis Raynier: yes
Lia Rikugun: the only sentance i can say :)
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: kak tibia sawut?
Lucis Raynier: but right: menia zovut Lia
Lucis Raynier: menia zovut Lucis
Lia Rikugun: :)
Lucis Raynier: what country you from Lia?
Zon Quar: slips away and waves...
Lia Rikugun: germany
Wol Euler: bye zon, take care
Lia Rikugun: bye ybe zo
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye zon
Lia Rikugun: zon
Lucis Raynier: bb Zo
Lucis Raynier: I visited Germany in 2000 year
Lia Rikugun: where did you go?
Lucis Raynier: Iserlohn
Lia Rikugun: and, did you like it?
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, iserlohn is just 25 km from here :)
Lucis Raynier: from here??
Yakuzza Lethecus: which means i am in a 25 km circle around that city and that i am also living in germany and nrw :)
Lucis Raynier: wow North WesFalia
Lucis Raynier: yes
Wol Euler: actually the germans are in the majority today :)
Lucis Raynier: Munster I visited too
Calvino Rabeni: I was in Germany about 2 years ago for a visit
Yakuzza Lethecus: what did you do and where did you go cal ?
Calvino Rabeni: I went to Frankfurt, Nuremburg, and then to Obersdorf (end of train)
Lia Rikugun: nice
Lia Rikugun: for vacation?
Yakuzza Lethecus: nuerburgring ?
Lia Rikugun: nuernberg
Calvino Rabeni: There was a big bike race around that old castle wall in nuremburg
Wol Euler: hello liza
Calvino Rabeni: How to spell ?
Lucis Raynier: hi Liza
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey liza
Liza Deischer: hi everyone
Lia Rikugun: hello liza
Lucis Raynier: you from Germany as well Lisa? ))
Liza Deischer: no, Holland
Lia Rikugun: and calvino you livein the united states?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: i thought because i thought cal likes to drive motobikes :)
Lia Rikugun: :)
Lia Rikugun: brb
Lucis Raynier: some people don't like to mix RL and SL. But I like
Calvino Rabeni: I do like to drive those Yaku
Calvino Rabeni: In mountains, also in Thailand :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: you mean those for racing
XXXXXX: beep beep
Yakuzza Lethecus: meep meep
Wol Euler: hello XXXXXX
Liza Deischer: hi XXXXXX
Lucis Raynier: XXXXXX! Hey!
Lia Rikugun: back
Liza Deischer: tutututuut
Lia Rikugun: hello XXXXXX
Lucis Raynier: whatplanet you from XXXXXX?
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
Liza Deischer: bye Yaku :)
Lia Rikugun: good night yaku
Lucis Raynier: nite Yaku
Lia Rikugun: will go to bed too
Liza Deischer: nite Lia
Wol Euler: bye lia, sleep well
Lia Rikugun: take care you all! see you soon
Wol Euler: (distracted, sorry)
Calvino Rabeni: I need to go now - I think WOK is meeting?
Wol Euler: oh yes, it is
Liza Deischer: I think so too
Liza Deischer: bye Cal :)
Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
Wol Euler: bye cal, know well
Lucis Raynier: my snake go sleping ))
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: you're free for a while, then.
Wol Euler: use the time wisely
Liza Deischer: :)
Lucis Raynier: :))
Wol Euler: you're looking very tanned, liza
Liza Deischer: only in sl :)
Wol Euler: heheeh
Wol Euler: same here actually
Wol Euler: I avoid the sun in RL
Liza Deischer: tiredness has me kept inside
Liza Deischer: and I don't like this temperature
Wol Euler nods
Wol Euler: far too hot and humid :(
Liza Deischer: yes
Lucis Raynier: I think in SL ppl like they in soul - so more real than them appearance in RL ))
Liza Deischer: no wind
Wol Euler: very true lucis
Wol Euler: here, you meet souls, without any of the baggage of RL bodies
Lucis Raynier: and that/s why many ppl don't like to mix RL and SL
Wol Euler: well there are other reasons too :)
Liza Deischer: yes
Wol Euler: for many people, SL really is better than their RL
Liza Deischer smiles
Lucis Raynier: meep
Wol Euler: I should get to bed, I'm really tired. I had about four hours' sleep last night :(
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
Lucis Raynier: nite
Liza Deischer: nite Wol, sleep well
Liza Deischer: I'm going too
Liza Deischer: nite Lucis
Lucis Raynier: nite
Lucis Raynier: nice to see you