2010.07.26 01:00 - Different Memories

The Guardian for this meeting was Cosmicflower Ushimawa. The comments are by PlayAsBeing.

Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sitting and listening silence ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: still, feeling
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not alone here
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: looking a bit up
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and see You dear ones "here" with Your lovely Spirits
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello Cal <3<3<3
Calvino Rabeni: <333
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it feels silence here
Calvino Rabeni: In RL I feel a cool summer night air from the open door
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: peacefull
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh, that scent would be wonderfull to capture on bottle ;))
Calvino Rabeni: Wish it could, I am not sure it is possible
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and also the one after rain
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes ;))
Calvino Rabeni: I did find mint today, growing by the lake
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and I found one white flower growing next to our hedge
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its some wild flower I think
Calvino Rabeni: I wonder if there is a really good poet, who can use words, to communicate the impression of scents
Calvino Rabeni: Or is it rather, impossible ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: scent brings feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if consentrating on that feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: where it comes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby there would be also words
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: for poem
Calvino Rabeni: yes that makes sense
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby eaven might find some previous incarnations too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: stories
Calvino Rabeni: it could work
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smell memory is amazing
Calvino Rabeni: yes, can it be connected with word memory?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Calvino Rabeni: It would be "feel", not just saying "like" other smells
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: i think there is more like state without words
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but maby there can find words
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or sound
Darren Islar: hi Cal and Cosmic :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or colour to paint
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello Darren <3<3<3
Calvino Rabeni: <333
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we were wondering if there is words for smell memory
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and from how far those scents comes to our mind
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if sniffing one
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I "guess" eaven from previous incarnations also
Darren Islar: ah, far in time
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: getting a feel**
Darren Islar: never thought of that, but could well be
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes I have smelled a scent
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: without anyone have put perfume
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I wondered
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if that comes from angel nearby
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or from guide
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: from spirit level
Darren Islar: hmmm, that I don't know
Darren Islar: I do know the mind can play tricks on you
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or sometimes when i have smelled the scent of some person
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven if this person have not been eaven nearby
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: known this person have thought about me, on that moment
Darren Islar: hmm, I really don't know, but it is weird ye
Darren Islar: I stopped drinking for 16 years
Darren Islar: the first year, year and a half, I sometimes still could taste the booze, as clearly as I was drinking it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think taste have also its memory
Darren Islar: taste is for the biggest part based on smell
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sure
Darren Islar: and it is known that if you put somebody in a room, where you don't offer any sensations
Darren Islar: the mind is still producing those sensations
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, but when I try to remember what liquor tastes, what comes back is the feel, not the smell
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I don`t think its mind
Calvino Rabeni: I'm not sure I can remember smell, by intending to do it
Darren Islar: well, I guess that is the big question
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: interesting one ;))
Darren Islar: but you do smell Cal ?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Darren Islar: but somehow it is not in your memory
Calvino Rabeni: pretty well
Calvino Rabeni: but memory fetches feeling, not smell
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: from smell, comes feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: of something
Darren Islar: I don't know, i really tasted it
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think its same when can smell someone
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ore something
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when tasting something
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven if not taste it at the moment
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: senses works with memory
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sells have also their memory
Darren Islar: smell is a very basic sense, since it is the only one that is suited in the oldest part of the brain
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was once in massage
Calvino Rabeni: red wine, chocolate, mint, scotch, vanilla, lavender, night air, pine, fir wood, asiago cheese, beer, shrimp, ... mostly foods I guess
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and when was healing a part of my back
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it brought tears on my eyes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and feel
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: something wery old was stored there on body memory
Darren Islar: (in the brainstem)
Darren Islar: or the smell after a rainfall
Darren Islar: or the old damp in a house
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;))
Darren Islar: yes I think we have those kind of memories in our body
Darren Islar: I experience that a lot too Cosmic
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: human body is very amazing thing
Calvino Rabeni: I think it would get easier with practice (remembering smells)
Darren Islar: yes, I think so too
Calvino Rabeni: Body goes on living and a lot of it - below awareness
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: So you could have a memory that is not accessible - like, it is inside, not forgotten, but can't access it at the moment.
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think so too
Darren Islar: right
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: things are like "stored" somewhere on body
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and they "jump up"
Calvino Rabeni: Like the memory of one's mother - how she smelled to one as a baby
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: for example
Calvino Rabeni: that smell was everyday, for many hours
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but that is maby smell memory
Calvino Rabeni: Maybe it is possible to remember and not remember at the same time
Calvino Rabeni: If I ask myself to recall that smell, then I don't remember, but body relaxes and changes a little bit - maybe it does remember while "I" do not
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I sniff very much different scents
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and when sniffing for example perfume
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when getting a smell "again"
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: after looong time
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it brings that memory
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and sometimes it brings me eaven to different time and country
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its like a
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: portal
Darren Islar: it could be that your awareness in that department is more developed
Calvino Rabeni: I like sleeping outdoors, or with the door open, to sleep in the scent
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: very often scents brings me on France
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and the feel i get
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its about some hudreds ago
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby about 500-600 years back
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and some incense sticks brings me very strongly to Egypt
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: more far
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think they have used incense sticks as a portal to spiritual world
Darren Islar: I guess, as we can have memories of past lifes, I wouldn't know why we shouldn't have memories of senses as well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking of sleeping outdoors or door open with scents
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: came to my mind
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby it also gives more "travelling" at night time??
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: True Darren
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have thought about that lately quite much
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: just a sec, will milking Simo
Calvino Rabeni: A quote from Rilke about this.
Calvino Rabeni: "With each thing I would like to rest for a night, after a day of "doing" with other things. I would like to sleep once with each thing, nestled in its warmth; to dream in the rhythm of its breathing, its dear, naked neghborliness against my limbs, and grow strong in the fragrance of its sleep."
Darren Islar: nice quote
Calvino Rabeni: I like that image - to learn by soaking something up into the uncconscious
Darren Islar: yes
--BELL--
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: nice ;))
Darren Islar: brb
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ok
Darren Islar: you heard that annoying sound in the brb
--BELL--
Darren Islar: I guess not :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: noup
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why annoying?
Darren Islar: it sounds annoying to me
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, okey ;)
Darren Islar: but I wanted to say that I placed it there especially for you guys, so you remember me when you ever hear that annoying sound some place else :)
Darren Islar: maybe in a next life
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think we will remember You <3<3
Calvino Rabeni: Probably in next life, if such occurs, my laptop sound will not work there either
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You are One of those I do remember ;))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: without sound
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Darren Islar: thanks :))
Darren Islar: was meant as a joke :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: heh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Darren Islar: but I see Cal is already half asleep :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: heh ;) mmm zzzz <3<3<3
Calvino Rabeni: <3333 I will go soon, to sleep in the night air :)))
Darren Islar: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: feeling that ;))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: feels good
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is there mosqitos?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: next thought came about mosqitos, heh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Calvino Rabeni: Inside - near screen door open
Darren Islar: bzzzzzz
Calvino Rabeni: Your mosquito can't get in, Darren :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;9
Darren Islar: shoot !!
Calvino Rabeni: Good night Cos and Darren :))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Okey, I think I need to go too
Darren Islar: nite Cal :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Good night Cal <3<3<3
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and nice travels ;))
Darren Islar: sleep well
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: There will come my mom`s sister wisit me today
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks, Bye :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: need to clean up.... lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thanks ;))
Darren Islar: thank you :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling wide
Darren Islar: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but okey, now I truly need to get started ;) we were last week on holiday trip drove to Spa in Ikaalinen, then to Turku, and cruise to Stockholm, back Turku and home
Darren Islar: wow
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have been a bit lazy to cleanign up last few weeks ;))
Darren Islar: quite a trip
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes it was
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we had fun, boys had fun
Darren Islar: I can imagine
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and we were a bit tired too
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: In stockholm we went to amusement park
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there were joy on skies... ;)
Darren Islar: :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But see You soon Darren ;)))
Darren Islar: see you Cosmic :))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Okey, bye for now ;))
Darren Islar: bye :))