2012.01.08 07:00 - Expectations

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

I had trouble getting into SL this morning. When I finally did get in, I had trouble getting to PaB. I was flying in from afar when Xirana sent me a tp which brought me down into the pavilion.

Xirana Oximoxi: hi Adams!!! :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Xirana
Adams Rubble: Thank you for the tp
Xirana Oximoxi: yvw:)...
Adams Rubble: How are you today
Xirana Oximoxi: do you know if the Guardian sessions have also restart?
Adams Rubble: yes today
Xirana Oximoxi: I am fine ty:) a little tired of so much holidays with family up and down... now some peace:)
Adams Rubble: Just in case I crash, I do have the log claimed
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! ok:)
Xirana Oximoxi: perfect
Adams Rubble: I am having a nice weekend trip
Xirana Oximoxi: you will receive it even if you are not here, I think
Adams Rubble: in Washington DC
Xirana Oximoxi: nice:) I've never been to USA... a must do travel :)
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: we have been to a number of museums and public monuments in the last few days
Adams Rubble: Hello archdivine :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello achdivine:)
Xirana Oximoxi: what a fun avi!! :)
archdivine Resident: hi all
archdivine Resident: sure
Adams Rubble: Have you been here veofre archdivine?
Xirana Oximoxi: we must jump in to be safe from the deluge!! :)
archdivine Resident: sure
archdivine Resident: i was some months ago here as Barcalona
Adams Rubble: ahh, nice to meet your new avatar
archdivine Resident: and a year before as Adoro Rhapsody
Xirana Oximoxi: ah ok:) then you know we record the chat:)
archdivine Resident: yes i know
archdivine Resident: no problem
Xirana Oximoxi: lol... do you have fun changing the avatar?
archdivine Resident: i think its free publicity
Xirana Oximoxi: I like this one.is it possible to sit in? have you tried?
archdivine Resident: yes i feel comfortable with it
Adams Rubble: Hello Multiverse :)
Adams Rubble: Yes, a very neat avatar
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Multiverse :)
archdivine Resident: i met Multiverse 1 some days ago
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Xirana, Adams, and Art
archdivine Resident: interesting difference between universe and multivers
Multiverse1 Resident: Arch
Xirana Oximoxi: also..today it seems someone was afraid to have cold...we have a nice fire
archdivine Resident: i like the fire
Multiverse1 Resident: Arch, that is similar to the avitar I entered sl with
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, it gives a warm visual sensation:)
archdivine Resident: ok
archdivine Resident: why did u change it ?
Multiverse1 Resident: without hetting burned
Multiverse1 Resident: nobody, or 99% of the avis were human
archdivine Resident: ok
Multiverse1 Resident: I felt rather out of place
archdivine Resident: but i like to be a thing
Multiverse1 Resident: but I still like it!
Adams Rubble: I sometimes feel out of place when I am a llama
archdivine Resident: i could also choose a robot avatar
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... mostly I see are human..but also we have boxy and an Elephant (Rid) :)
Adams Rubble: my llama avatar keeps wanting to graze in the grass--hard to keep it in the pavilion
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
archdivine Resident: yes i remeber boxy
Xirana Oximoxi: we can have grass here too I think:)
Adams Rubble: yes we can
archdivine Resident: it is less confrontating
Multiverse1 Resident: Yes saw it in the wiki
archdivine Resident: like a mask
Multiverse1 Resident: completely nuetral
archdivine Resident: i feel like a vehicle for ideAS
Xirana Oximoxi: nice :)
Multiverse1 Resident: Adams wants to graze
Adams Rubble: hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: A vahicle, yes, that is why I chose it to enter sl
Adams Rubble: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: little laggy
Multiverse1 Resident: If I poof you'll know why
archdivine Resident: also a vehicle for multi versions of interpretations
Adams Rubble: I had some trouble getting here today
archdivine Resident: oh
archdivine Resident: its my free sunday afternoon here
Adams Rubble: nice that you could come
Multiverse1 Resident: interpretations, reminds me of my train of thought today in a way. I was thinking about "expectaions"
Adams Rubble: please say more Multiverse
Multiverse1 Resident: What we expect of ourselves and others, and things such as sl.
archdivine Resident: yes more is lesss
Adams Rubble: we expect SL to work. hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
archdivine Resident: i know it works for me sometimes
Multiverse1 Resident: If we shed our expectations, we cannot be disappointed.
Adams Rubble: yes Multiverse
archdivine Resident: when i wanna share my ideas
Xirana Oximoxi: one of my expectation here and also in RL is learning from all the experiences I have
archdivine Resident: or standing open for others opinions
Multiverse1 Resident: that can't be helped though, can it?
--BELL--
archdivine Resident: well i go again
Multiverse1 Resident: a sponge you are Xirana
archdivine Resident: bye
Multiverse1 Resident: bye Arch
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye:)
Multiverse1 Resident: pleasant sailing
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I am a sponge :)
Multiverse1 Resident: A Loofa?
Adams Rubble: I spent the little break thhinking about expectations and learning
Xirana Oximoxi: just an exemple..in this short time I've had to look for 'shed', sponge' and 'Loofa' at the dictionary:))
Adams Rubble: we learn by putting outselves in places where we can learn
Multiverse1 Resident: I went to a place in Tarpon Springs , you could dive for sponges there, quite neat.
Adams Rubble: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: harvest them
Xirana Oximoxi: Tarpon Springs is a place in SL?
Multiverse1 Resident: No Floridas, USA. It's real
Xirana Oximoxi: oh!ok:) ty
Adams Rubble: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: You catch a living sponge and take it home, then use it to bathe
Xirana Oximoxi: and is it allowed to do so?... there must be a lot
Multiverse1 Resident: loofa sponges
Xirana Oximoxi: natural sponges are sold here
Adams Rubble: I did not come expecting top learn that today :)
Multiverse1 Resident: You have to pay, but it is like fishing, but for sponges
Xirana Oximoxi: ok
Multiverse1 Resident: No, what did you expect Adams?
Adams Rubble: hehe. I expected SL to work
Xirana Oximoxi: expectations..our topic of today:)
Multiverse1 Resident: hehe, but it is, is it not. You are there and we are here.
Xirana Oximoxi: what are your expectations in SL Multiverse?
Multiverse1 Resident: a bit slow perhaps , yes
Adams Rubble: yes, but I was about 10 minutes late
Adams Rubble: but it is good to be here
Adams Rubble: with you
Adams Rubble: both
Multiverse1 Resident: I don't expect sl to expect me to do anything, exept log in and out.
Xirana Oximoxi: yes! it's nice you've been able to come
Multiverse1 Resident: 10 whole minutes
Xirana Oximoxi: and do you expect to have some experiences, feelings, nice conversations...meeting people, ...
Multiverse1 Resident: another expectation you had of yourself this day Adams
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Bruce:)
Multiverse1 Resident: Hi Bruce!
Adams Rubble: Hello Bruce :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Xir, Multi and Adams!
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: I didn't expect Bruce here and now
Bruce Mowbray: nnor did Bruce!
Bruce Mowbray: nor*
Multiverse1 Resident: But it is a good thing, unexpectedly
Bruce Mowbray listens to catch the drift.
Xirana Oximoxi: we were talking obout 'expectations' Bruce:)
Bruce Mowbray: Oh great!
Bruce Mowbray: Great expectations?
Adams Rubble: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: How if we shed our expectations there is little discomfort
Adams Rubble thinks that is the Dickens
Multiverse1 Resident: Great works
Bruce Mowbray: No expectations of glory or pain? Shedding those avoids suffering - - that sort of thing?
Multiverse1 Resident: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! Amazing stuff. . . .
Bruce Mowbray: THAT is precisely what I need to remember this coming week.
Multiverse1 Resident: or simple expectations such a being at a certain place at a certain time
Adams Rubble: like PaB. hehe
Bruce Mowbray: Two MRI's, two doctor app't's, and an echo cardiagram scheduled for this week . . . (and no expectations)
Multiverse1 Resident: yes , exactly
Bruce Mowbray: What about the expectations of others?
Bruce Mowbray: Those that they have of us?
Multiverse1 Resident: well, some things cannot be changed, they just are.
Adams Rubble nods
Bruce Mowbray: but -- do we not have options?
Adams Rubble: I think the expectations of others is relevant on whether and how we expect to meet them
Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, the "others" in our lives, have expectaions of us. And do we not all have obligations
Xirana Oximoxi: the expectations of others sometimes are difficult to hadle... you can disappoint someone doing things that were not expected
Xirana Oximoxi: handle*
Adams Rubble: I am having some decisions to make about the many things I am doing and what I can drop
Adams Rubble: and how much I may disappoint others
Bruce Mowbray: I have a doctor who is "expecting" me to agree to open-chest surgery. . . . but I have already decided NOT to have that surgery. . . and there might be some difficulties because of my decision (Difficulties in "handling" the consequences.)
--BELL--
Multiverse1 Resident: yes, we build those expectations in others at times
Multiverse1 Resident: Time management requirements, then cause us to incorporate our own expectaions, or goals.
Adams Rubble nods to Bruce. It is some worry about going against those who are taking care of us
Adams Rubble: but sometimes we need to do it because we know better
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers. . . especially when they are doctors.
Xirana Oximoxi: my brothe was in a similar situation Bruce... and he has talked to two doctors each one saying different things... so now, he has told them to talk and try to see what is really the best
Adams Rubble: They may be more used to it than we realize
Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm. Good points from both of you.
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Multi!
Bruce Mowbray: I hope I didn't offend. . .
Adams Rubble: wb Multiverse
Bruce Mowbray: Oh! There you are again!
Adams Rubble: SL is a little unstable today
Xirana Oximoxi: wb Multiverse:)
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Do we have an arsonist?
Adams Rubble: apparently
Bruce Mowbray: Samuo.
Multiverse1 Resident: I have to say, as I did. I did expect to freeze here today. Expectation fulfilled
Multiverse1 Resident: hi Observerm
Xirana Oximoxi: hi observem!!! new year..new avi!! very nice!! :)
Multiverse1 Resident: Bruce, I would say you know what you want, it could be tough to play it out though, I wish you the guidance you need to acomplish what you have set for yourself.
Bruce Mowbray: Thank you very much.
Bruce Mowbray: a lot on the medical plate right now.
Adams Rubble: yes
Bruce Mowbray: I have a few wonderful friends in RL who are counseling me well...
Multiverse1 Resident: Yes, it can be consuming also
Bruce Mowbray: I am so grateful.
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. diffiicult situation and difficult decisions
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers --
Bruce Mowbray: Good friends are food for the soul.
Multiverse1 Resident: It is a wonderful thing, freindship, an unexpected pleasure.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes. Unexpected riches there.
Multiverse1 Resident: The best results
Multiverse1 Resident: I was also thinking about fulfilling expectaions and how it feels to acomplish a goal set for one's self.
Multiverse1 Resident: a pleasant feeling
Bruce Mowbray: one's expectations of oneself, Multi?
Multiverse1 Resident: and when we do not fulfill our goals, only to learn how we failed
Multiverse1 Resident: and to circumspect
Bruce Mowbray ponders whether we ever truly "fail."
Bruce Mowbray: always something there to be worked with --- even our mistakes.
Multiverse1 Resident: no, a temporary "mind" state indeed
Bruce Mowbray: and "failtures."
Bruce Mowbray: failures*
Adams Rubble: It is important to stop and realize what we have accomplished instead of focusing on the next expectations
Multiverse1 Resident: yes, that is the point, I think
Bruce Mowbray: There is a flowing quality to it. . .
Bruce Mowbray: and occasionally a rock in the stream. . .
Bruce Mowbray: but the stream flows on.
Bruce Mowbray: and there will be future rocks, as well. . .
Multiverse1 Resident: But we need the rocks to cross the stream sometymes
Bruce Mowbray: and future flowing beyond them.
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh! Excellent metaphor, Multi!
Multiverse1 Resident: and to catch debris, so that an ecosystem can arise.
Multiverse1 Resident: and then fish and sponges may grow there
Multiverse1 Resident: haha
Adams Rubble is thinking of what is left behind when we flow down the stream
Bruce Mowbray: In this universe (and probably in others that Multi is aware of) there seems to be no ultimate "stagnation."
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Multiverse1 Resident: and the ocean ahead of us.
Adams Rubble: rejoining the ocean
Bruce Mowbray: Space is infinite opportunity - - Time is infinite provider. . .
Multiverse1 Resident: for all rivers to the sea they flow
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: Well thenks, folks. . . It's time for me to move along for the Guardian session beginning in one minute.
Multiverse1 Resident: I think of rivers on the Earth as Arteries
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Yaku:)
Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Bruce TC
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: And I must leave today to join the wonderful folks in this room
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Adams Rubble: bye Bruce
Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Adams, be well
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I also come for a while... bye bye Adams, Multi...
Adams Rubble: Have a wonderful day or evening everyone
Xirana Oximoxi: have a nice travel Adams! :)
Multiverse1 Resident: Bye Xirana
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Adams Rubble: thanks going home on the train later today
Wol Euler: hello and goodbye, see you at the guardians' meeting
Adams Rubble waves
Multiverse1 Resident: Hey Yaku and wol?
Multiverse1 Resident: hi boxy
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Alfred Kelberry: um, sorry. i have a guardians meeting.
Multiverse1 Resident: what are you up to Alf
Multiverse1 Resident: oh see ya