The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado. Present were Alfred Kelberry, Bruce Mowbray, oO0Oo Resident and myself.

Retreat alternatives:

Zen Arado: Hi Sam :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Zen :)
oO0Oo Resident: I caught the very last minute of the GoC meeting. It sounded like a RL retreat was decided upon? In Ireland?
Zen Arado: well...I don't know
Zen Arado: who makes fn=inal decision?
Zen Arado: Eos and Pema?
oO0Oo Resident: Oh.. I don't know.. but was there a general pull toward an Irish location?
Zen Arado: seemed to be
Zen Arado: but maybe that was mostly me
Zen Arado: it is a hotel near me
Zen Arado: might be better than Retreat place I go to
Zen Arado: it is very quiet
Zen Arado: (retreat place)
Zen Arado: more suited to all day meditation
oO0Oo Resident: Sounds great :)
Zen Arado: http://www.drumalis.co.uk/
Zen Arado: yes it is nice place too
oO0Oo Resident: ty.. clicking
Zen Arado: has a new section only rebuilt 2 years ago
Zen Arado: it's a bit Catholic tho
Zen Arado: run by two nuns
Zen Arado: I am going to a Zen retreat there at end of Feb
Zen Arado: I go there every week for meditation group
Zen Arado: and we have an all day meditation session once per month
oO0Oo Resident: It looks lovely. I like the name of one of their programmes, "Enough is Plenty" ;)
Zen Arado: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Oh, so you have first hand experience there .. great!
Zen Arado: but I tought a hotel near me might be better fro a pab group
oO0Oo Resident: your accent ois showing Zen ;) lol
oO0Oo Resident: *is
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: I tought I taw a puddy tat
oO0Oo Resident: 'tis the wearing of the green
Zen Arado: N.Irish don't say that
oO0Oo Resident: hahahahhaa
Zen Arado: I tink
Zen Arado: :)

oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Zen Arado: perhaps I should send an email to pab outlining two venues
oO0Oo Resident: Could only help
Zen Arado: as some don't check guardians log
oO0Oo Resident nods
oO0Oo Resident: Photo gallery: http://www.drumalis.co.uk/Photo_Gallery.aspx
Zen Arado: not very extensive :)
Zen Arado: they have lovely woodland walks
Zen Arado: extensive grounds
Zen Arado: they should have photos of that
Zen Arado: I love the huge trees
Zen Arado: the old house was built in 1895 by a wealthy industrialist
oO0Oo Resident: Such a lovely setting.. and so green. Nice
Zen Arado: Hi boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Zen Arado: we still meet in it every THurs eve
Alfred Kelberry: ireland retreat!
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Boxy, Zen and I were just talking about retreats, possibly in Ireland.
Zen Arado: it's what makes me too late for WoK meetings
Alfred Kelberry: *spreads the cheer*
oO0Oo Resident: I had no Way of Knowing until now Zen ;)
Alfred Kelberry: yes, it's what we discussed at the guardians meeting yesterday :)
Zen Arado: :)
oO0Oo Resident: nods @ Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: aph composed a nice doc which i haven't read yet
Alfred Kelberry: re: wok
Zen Arado: there is another venue boxy: http://www.drumalis.co.uk/
Zen Arado: I have done many retreats there
Zen Arado: last 6 years
Alfred Kelberry: "The Ways of the Universe (1-6 July 2012)"
Zen Arado: we could have it sussed
Alfred Kelberry: we could rename the group like that :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, sussed must be british
Zen Arado: oh maybe
Zen Arado: worked out?
Alfred Kelberry: bruce!
oO0Oo Resident: sussed means figured out, or looked into?
Zen Arado: Hi Bruce:)
Zen Arado: yeh
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Bruce :)
Alfred Kelberry: grasped :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Zen, Boxy, Samuo.
Alfred Kelberry: or grok it :)
oO0Oo Resident: me thinks Bruce is suss ;)
Zen Arado: grok similar
oO0Oo Resident: another sense of the word
Alfred Kelberry: sussed the sense out of it
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Zen Arado: life is never sussed
Zen Arado: it's sussless
Alfred Kelberry: bruce, have you seen the drumalis place?
Zen Arado: http://www.drumalis.co.uk/
oO0Oo Resident: haha
Alfred Kelberry: looks good too
Bruce Mowbray: nope, have not seen that...
Alfred Kelberry: also note the july program
Alfred Kelberry: "The Ways of the Universe (1-6 July 2012)"
Alfred Kelberry: *hint: good name* :)
Zen Arado: that place gets busy
Zen Arado: might not get booking there
Alfred Kelberry: worth a try
Zen Arado: could make prelim enquiry
Bruce Mowbray: Is that near where you live, Zen?
Zen Arado: yeh
Zen Arado: about 15 miles away
Alfred Kelberry: except, you did not write the email about ireland, zen
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm....
Zen Arado: not yet
Bruce Mowbray suddenly remembers that he also has an email to send out -- two of them, in fact.
Zen Arado: it's beside a town called Larne
Alfred Kelberry: and jan 15 is the deadline for the folks to decide if they go or not
Zen Arado: a ferry port to Scotland
Alfred Kelberry: i advise to send out the email soon :)
Zen Arado: whch is only about 20 miles away

Zen Arado: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larne
Alfred Kelberry: nice place
Alfred Kelberry: good for a long walk in the fields :)
Zen Arado: doesn't Eos have to be involved in decisions about this?
Zen Arado: and Pema?
oO0Oo Resident: Side trip to Giant's Causeway might me nice, as it is in Antrim: http://is.gd/PzHs9Q
Zen Arado: yes ..it is a favourite with tourists
Zen Arado: and there is a nice coast road
Zen Arado: to it
oO0Oo Resident: powerful
oO0Oo Resident: Standing Stone: http://is.gd/dtdFNo
Alfred Kelberry: zen, i think it boils down to who is able to go and who is not. you send out the email, set the deadline, and let the rest decide.
Zen Arado: yeh boxy
Alfred Kelberry: it may happen so that we have 2 retreats. one in the u.s./canada and one in eu.
Zen Arado: they arrive Sunday and go Friday?
Alfred Kelberry: i don't know. better consult with the previoius retreat dates, i guess.
Alfred Kelberry: i've never been to one
Bruce Mowbray: (We arrived on Sunday and left the following Saturday -- at the Halifax retreat this past July.)
Zen Arado: I have little idea what they do on paB retreats
Zen Arado: never been to one
Alfred Kelberry: oh, i thought you were, zen
oO0Oo Resident: sussing the sussless?
Alfred Kelberry: somehow you seem like a regular retreater :)
Bruce Mowbray: to suss, Verb. . . Meaning what?
Alfred Kelberry: grok
Zen Arado: rettreating from retreat
Zen Arado: Zen retreats yes
Alfred Kelberry: sun-sat looks good
Zen Arado: going to one at end of Feb
oO0Oo Resident: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=suss
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, Samuo.
oO0Oo Resident: :) yw
Alfred Kelberry: "a slang shortening of suspect"
Alfred Kelberry: eh
Bruce Mowbray: May I ask an off-the-wall question, please?
Zen Arado: http://www.facebook.com/events/218375261560191/
oO0Oo Resident: here?
Alfred Kelberry: humpty dumpty
oO0Oo Resident: ;)
Zen Arado: sure Bruce

Dream Meetings times:

Bruce Mowbray: Has the Dream Circle moved its scheduled time from Tuesday's to Saturdays?
Zen Arado: don't know
Alfred Kelberry: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Events/Calendar
Bruce Mowbray: No -- I meant moved to Fridays --- sry.
Alfred Kelberry: doesn't look like it
Bruce Mowbray: The sign here says, "Dream Circle is held the last Friday of ech month @ 7 p.m. slt."
Alfred Kelberry: er
Zen Arado: too late for me
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I thought they were meeting at my scheduled PaB session time: 13:00 on Tuesdays
Zen Arado: wonders what happens at 7pm sessions

Bruce Mowbray: I have agreed to take Aph's Saturday 13:00 sessions. . . and want to send an email to all Pabbers today to that effect . . . but I was doing that because of the Dream Circle's meeting on Tuesdays during the 13:00 hour/. . . (and now I am confused). [Many good folks go to the Dream Circle, leaving my session a bit sparse.]
Zen Arado: they used to have a dream circle at 7am Fri
Zen Arado: Luci's session
Zen Arado: ask Luci or Eliza
oO0Oo Resident: I think you mean the 'Dream Workshop' Bruce? Maxine's?
Bruce Mowbray: Oh! There is a difference?
Zen Arado: yeh two groups
oO0Oo Resident: Yes.. Lucinda's is called the 'Dream Circle'
Bruce Mowbray: Didn't realize that. Thanks.
Bruce Mowbray: But even so, the Dream Circle is at the same time at my PaB session. . .
Bruce Mowbray: so will need to think about this. . . (sending email to Pabbers about my taking Aph's slot on Saturdays.)
Bruce Mowbray: thanks (done now).
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: so many meetings
Zen Arado: I go to a VAI meeting at that time Tues
Zen Arado: virtual ability Inc

SL Railroad:

Zen Arado: anyon etried the SL railroad?
Zen Arado: it's fun
Bruce Mowbray: I've not yet tried it.
Bruce Mowbray: phone call
Bruce Mowbray: afk...
Zen Arado: it goes a long way
Zen Arado: crosses many sims
Zen Arado: little stations springing up
Zen Arado: like the old West
Zen Arado: maybe I will set up a saloon bar
Zen Arado: but no six guns allowed
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: have often thought SL resembles the wild west
Zen Arado: pioneers in a new territory

oO0Oo Resident: . FYI Maxine's Dream Workshop http://is.gd/CqsKQ9 Lucinda's Dream Circle http://is.gd/prZgSv

Bookings:

Zen Arado: ok ty Sam
Zen Arado: would be easier to book Drumalis Sun to Fri a they have many groups at weekends
Zen Arado: I enquired about this before
Alfred Kelberry: you have no one to book so far :)
oO0Oo Resident: we are sussing it all out :)
Zen Arado: true
Alfred Kelberry: i wouldn't worry about it just yet
Zen Arado: I made a prelim enquiry before when they were thinging about it
Zen Arado: could check availability anyway
Alfred Kelberry: yes and you have 2 places now, which is a good backup

Zen Arado: yes
Bruce Mowbray: Gotta go -- sry.\
Bruce Mowbray: All have a happy day.
Zen Arado: kk Bruce
Zen Arado: me too
oO0Oo Resident: Bye Bruce:)
oO0Oo Resident: you too
Zen Arado: gotta get back for Original Face
oO0Oo Resident: Bye Zen :)
oO0Oo Resident: Good suss session
oO0Oo Resident thinks sussing out can take place in many paradigmatic models.. like different sorts of computer programming models. Procedural, or Object Oriented, parallel, or serial.. etc...
oO0Oo Resident: Well, I'll go suss out a gifsicle now ;) Take care Boxy :)