2012.01.11 13:00 - Irish matters

Wol Euler recovered this session from the autologging database.

Archmage Atlantis: Hello Wol
Archmage Atlantis: :)
Wol Euler: hello arch
Wol Euler: tiger-arch
Archmage Atlantis: Hey, my hair is still lying down, not flinging feathers in the sky *grin*
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: how are you today?
Archmage Atlantis: I expected more folks to be here....and I am, on average, good
Wol Euler: well, I can't help your expectations :) but I am glad to hear that you are well
Archmage Atlantis: chuckles
Wol Euler: we were talking about hte phenomenon of the January blues yesterday, at the dreams workshop
Wol Euler: the consensus is that (so far at least) we are all un-blue
Archmage Atlantis: Do you identify with any rl animals, Wol.?..... the snow leopard , the badger and the coyote seem to become more of me as i age......probably a bit of poetic nonesensee
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, that fits
Wol Euler: I'm not sure how to answer that really. I don't feel animal-ish, but I do sometimes feel a kind of kindship to big, lazy, happy and friendly dogs
Wol Euler: the kind that would love to lick your hand if you would only just walk over to where they are laying :)
Archmage Atlantis: Smile
Archmage Atlantis: A dog has come into our lives this last month
Wol Euler: ah :) nice
Archmage Atlantis: She visits regularly
Wol Euler: free-range?
Archmage Atlantis: No, she has a family....just likes to find a quiet space
Wol Euler smiles.
Archmage Atlantis: 3 children
Wol Euler: that#s nice
Archmage Atlantis: She goes home when she is ready
Archmage Atlantis: Her name is Kaya
Archmage Atlantis: She is an Alaskan Huskie.....
Archmage Atlantis: And this is Florida
Archmage Atlantis: yikes
Wol Euler: yeah, must be very hot
Wol Euler: does she have blue eyes?

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: Yes, like the crystals of the blueish deepest lakes
Wol Euler: beautiful, but uncanny
Wol Euler: (I find them)
Wol Euler: sounds like you all like each other :)
Archmage Atlantis: .I have always been fondest of those dogs who are collie like, besides collies, Shelties, Australian Shephards....the herding dogs..........Kaya is the first work dog I have ever been able to relate to
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, we all like each other
Wol Euler smiles.
Archmage Atlantis: mysteries of life
Wol Euler: perhaps she was sent to broaden your acquaintance :)
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps
Archmage Atlantis: I try not to see meaning in circumstance......it can lead me astray
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: good evening, zen
Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Zen meister
Zen Arado: Hi Wol, Arch
Wol Euler: hello eliza
Zen Arado: Hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol, Arch, Zen :)
Archmage Atlantis: you are having difficulties in arranging the retreat in N Ireland....at least as I read the daily conversation
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Eliza
Zen Arado: yeh but found a good venue now I think
Wol Euler: ah, good
Zen Arado: need to know how many are interested
Wol Euler: (just got in from work, haven't checked e-mail yet)
Wol Euler: one!
Zen Arado: Europa Hotel Belfast
Eliza Madrigal: looks like a good solution
Wol Euler reads
Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :)
Archmage Atlantis: Does the hotel have the ability to accommodate persons outside the recognized "norms' Zen?
Agatha Macbeth: ♥
Zen Arado: Hi Aga
Eliza Madrigal: :) Wol is reading emails to catch up on retreat news
Zen Arado: think so
Archmage Atlantis: ok
Zen Arado: I don't know what to do next
Eliza Madrigal: wow nice appearances today
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Korel :)
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Zen Arado: Hi Korel
Korel Laloix: Bozho
Korel Laloix: HOw is everyone today?
Wol Euler: hello aggers, korel
Agatha Macbeth: Osiyo K
Korel Laloix smiles
Archmage Atlantis: I would think, Zen, that those who have given meaning to previous retreats would assist.

--BELL--

Zen Arado: The Europa is a famous international hotel
Korel Laloix: By famous you mean overpriced and elitest?
Wol Euler chuckles.
Zen Arado: it isn't too expensive
Wol Euler: perhaps it just means "famous"
Korel Laloix: Tents are nice as well, if you dont mind a sleeping bag under the stars.
Archmage Atlantis: Dachau is also famous
Wol Euler: that sounds like a good idea, especially the suite
Zen Arado: compatred to London
Zen Arado: :)
Wol Euler invokes Godwin's Law
Archmage Atlantis: Words are tricky
Korel Laloix: I do have to sayI loved London, but I spent way too much money there.
Wol Euler: yah, a very expensive city
Eliza Madrigal: now that I've run out of airfare vouchers I think Ireland is out of reach, but sounds wonderful
Agatha Macbeth: Capitals usually are
Wol Euler: you say they are booked up for that first Sunday, Zen?
Zen Arado: Belfast isn't expensive
Zen Arado: yes when I looked
Eliza Madrigal: so it should be arranged soon
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: I'll be sorry not to see you there, Eliza
Wol Euler: you were such a great part of the last two retreats
Eliza Madrigal: that's kind
Agatha Macbeth: Liz is a great part of anything :)
Eliza Madrigal: but each has its own recipe I suppose :)
Zen Arado: it chenged form earlier
Eliza Madrigal: (thank you)
Wol Euler smiles.
Zen Arado: now you can get Sunday but expensive
Zen Arado: http://fe.avvio.com/convert/site/Has...tel/en/mda.php
Eliza Madrigal: Previously for hotel retreats, someone calls ahead to see what a rate for several might be, giving an estimate
Archmage Atlantis: How about a N Ireland Monastery, Zen?
Eliza Madrigal: and sometimes a price is locked in
Zen Arado: do they usually book individually or in a block for these things?
Eliza Madrigal: then we get a 'codeword' to use when calling to book individually
Wol Euler: right, malta worked that way
Zen Arado: only one I now is Benburb...went to many zen retreats there
Zen Arado: but it isn't very accessible and it's an old down at heel place
Wol Euler: hmmm, wonder if we know anybody in government or business or university in Belfast, who we could ask for a tiny favour ....
Wol Euler: such bodies often have favourable terms with big hotels
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
Mickorod Renard: hello
Mickorod Renard: :)
Zen Arado: Hi Mick
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Micky
Zen Arado: need somebody more experienced at this than me
Korel Laloix: I can't promise anyting, but we have an Irish football player as a client I might could ask for help.
Mickorod Renard: hi:))
Wol Euler: hello mick
Mickorod Renard: hiya
Eliza Madrigal: that's interesting Korel :)
Wol Euler: that would be great, korel!
Zen Arado: need to book asap
Korel Laloix: I will send him an email and see if he can help.... HOw many people and when?
Zen Arado: I have no idea how many mighgt come
Wol Euler: yeah, that's the tricky bit
Korel Laloix: OK.... lol
Wol Euler: call it half a dozen
Wol Euler: it won'T be much more or less than that
Korel Laloix: Prefferable dates?
Wol Euler: Mick and wife will come, of course :)
Agatha Macbeth: and the dog...
Wol Euler: first week of july, starting on sunday 1st
Eliza Madrigal: yeah, so good to shoot for at least 8 as a number to speak to staff
Wol Euler: sunday to saturday
Eliza Madrigal: usually saying 'between half and one dozen'
Wol Euler notes Mick's shocked silence
Zen Arado: Sunday is expensive
Wol Euler: :-P
Mickorod Renard: he he ....I am a content listener
Wol Euler: well, I suppose we could do a five-day normal routine by shifting it one day
Zen Arado: can't they do Mon to Sat?
Wol Euler: arrive on Monday, start on Tuesday, finish Saturday, leave on Sunday morning
Zen Arado: yes
Korel Laloix: This comming?
Wol Euler: works for me, but my days are (usually) very favourable

--BELL--

Wol Euler: july 1, 2012 yes
Korel Laloix: OH OK>
Zen Arado: Mon is 2nd
Wol Euler: ah, right :)
Zen Arado: I have to go
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Zen :)
Mickorod Renard: bye Zen
Agatha Macbeth: Take care zen
Zen Arado: hope we get something worked out
Mickorod Renard: good to see you
Wol Euler: bye zen, take care. Thanks for starting this off!
Korel Laloix: OK, wow... texted me back.
Korel Laloix: Balyporty Castle, not sure of the spelling.
Korel Laloix: 2000 US for a week sleeps 8 to 10.
Korel Laloix: Trying to look up.
Wol Euler: that's cheap-ish
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Atari :)
Agatha Macbeth: LTNS
Mickorod Renard: Hi atar
Wol Euler: probably this: http://www.ballyportry.ie/
Korel Laloix: CLose on spelling
Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Agatha, everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Atari :)
Wol Euler: hello atara
Agatha Macbeth: Good book?
Korel Laloix: Thanks.
Wol Euler: gameboy!
Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Mick, Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: ooo nice link
Ataraxia Azemus: It's a bricky Gameboy :)
Wol Euler: but I'm skeptical whether it would be suitable for Zen, based on what he's said :(
Eliza Madrigal: nods, yes... commenting only on the picture's beauty
Mickorod Renard: whats that Wol?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it looks a lovely place
Wol Euler: the link I just posted, possible alternative hotel for the retreat in July in Northern Irelane
Agatha Macbeth: Amazing how in this day and age how many places are still off-limits to the disabled
Ataraxia Azemus: Oh, that's beautiful
Eliza Madrigal: no kidding!
Agatha Macbeth sighs
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yo Alfie
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :) I really like the quote box, thank you
Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Boxy :)
Korel Laloix: http://www.celticcastles.com/castles...le/booking.asp
Wol Euler: "Please note that the wonderful curving late medieval stone staircase may not suit small children or those with walking disabilities. "
Mickorod Renard: Hi Alfie
Eliza Madrigal: yup, historical sites are not often friendly to limitations
Agatha Macbeth: Hmmm
Wol Euler: come and sit with us, guys.
Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Arch
Eliza Madrigal: Wb Arch
Korel Laloix: But if I am reading this right, there is at least one first floor room.
Agatha Macbeth: wb Archie
Alfred Kelberry: oh gee, woly! :)
Korel Laloix: NOt sure.
Archmage Atlantis: ty sis
Alfred Kelberry: teh punk girl :)
Korel Laloix: Something to look at.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Arch
Archmage Atlantis: hiya Mich
Wol Euler: european first is american second :) it's not ground level
Alfred Kelberry: kori, is the suit for a special occasion? :)
Eliza Madrigal: maybe giving a presentation?
Korel Laloix: Met someone for a dance while ago...lol
Alfred Kelberry: ah, neat
Agatha Macbeth: Fred Astaire?
Korel Laloix: In heals.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Eliza Madrigal: oooo stepping out
Korel Laloix: heels even
Mickorod Renard: anyone seen Bruce lately?
Eliza Madrigal: He hosted his session yesterday
Korel Laloix: Was here the last time I was on.
Agatha Macbeth: Saw him Monday at my session
Eliza Madrigal: former session actually
Mickorod Renard: ahh thanks
Wol Euler: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is k gonna dance?
Wol Euler: bye korel, take care
Alfred Kelberry: aga opted for heels today :)
Eliza Madrigal: btw Boxy, did you see the bottom of this log? : http://wiki.playasbeing.org/index.php?title=Chat_Logs/2012/01/2012.01.04_07:00_-_btw_..._what_is_Charm_%3F
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, red ones
Wol Euler: tuxedo and heels, nice
Alfred Kelberry: *looks*
Korel Laloix smiles
Ataraxia Azemus: Wol looks fancy today, too :)
Korel Laloix: I have a nice tux RL... very handy and classy.
Archmage Atlantis: Prefers flats on the ladies....of course most of the ladies in my generic line are over 6 feet tall
Korel Laloix: lol
Wol Euler smiles.
Korel Laloix: I dated a basketball palyer for a short time... nearly 18 inches taller than me... It was silly
Eliza Madrigal: `````:)
Archmage Atlantis: not funny, planes are built for nomes under 4 feet
Agatha Macbeth: Little and Large
Archmage Atlantis: *gnomes
Archmage Atlantis: they get angry when I forget the g
Korel Laloix: Hey!
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Mickorod Renard: :)
Korel Laloix: I am quite comfy on planes.
Alfred Kelberry: wow, the nose click animation :)

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: And I am way over four feet.
Korel Laloix smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Wol Euler: heheheh
Eliza Madrigal: I do think the puddle jumper planes should have warning labels
Archmage Atlantis: OMG, you have 4 feet plus Korel......what animal is that?
Alfred Kelberry: onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Korel Laloix: stop
Ataraxia Azemus: heheh
Agatha Macbeth: What's a puddle jumper plane?
Korel Laloix: Silly.. smiles
Eliza Madrigal: the ones that take one for instance from jersey to halifax :)
Ataraxia Azemus: A smaller plane
Agatha Macbeth: From the Channel Isles to Yorkshire?
Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Zen :)
Eliza Madrigal: it is the scene in Being John Malcovich
Agatha Macbeth: wb Zen
Archmage Atlantis: In rl, it is a propeller plane that goes small distances....thus. it jumps puddles
Eliza Madrigal: squeezing between two floors, lol
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Alfred Kelberry: btw, re: retreat. belfast is chosen?
Alfred Kelberry: zen :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah right Arch, thx
Eliza Madrigal: nothing is set until arrangements are made
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds a sensible policy
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Belfast has my blessing....tho it is accross the puddle
Alfred Kelberry: a city retreat
Alfred Kelberry: thanks, archy
Archmage Atlantis: Hey, someone has to play the role of god
Archmage Atlantis: it was open
Archmage Atlantis: I took it
Archmage Atlantis: QED
Archmage Atlantis: Still, tis only a role
Archmage Atlantis: smile
Agatha Macbeth: A role by any other name
Ataraxia Azemus: :)
Zen Arado: an important role
Wol Euler: would contain just as much ham and cheese
Zen Arado: starring role
Agatha Macbeth: Boom boom
Wol Euler: i thenk yew
Agatha Macbeth: Swiss role?
Zen Arado: would smell as sweet?
Alfred Kelberry: i prefer city retreats. you can sneak away from a meditation and take a walk :)
Archmage Atlantis: ok, ok....did all of you peeps do theater as children? cause I'm getting a vibe.
Ataraxia Azemus: I'm trying to cut back, thanks
Agatha Macbeth: Are you tired Atari? :p
Eliza Madrigal: :) Boxy
Eliza Madrigal: you can do that in the country too
Agatha Macbeth: That sounds ideal Alf
Wol Euler smiles.
Ataraxia Azemus: I am a little tired...on the one day of the week I've gotten lots of sleep!
Wol Euler: what boxy means is "sneak out and get a newspaper and a coffee"
Alfred Kelberry: yes, but you're stuck in the country then :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, often happens
Alfred Kelberry: thank you, woly :)
Wol Euler: my pleasure :) clarity is always good :)
Eliza Madrigal: =p~
Archmage Atlantis: Will the hotel have clotted cream, Zen?
Eliza Madrigal: yeah, with those awful birds and plants and stuff
Wol Euler grins.
Archmage Atlantis: And rolled oates
Alfred Kelberry: also, there are no fracture clubs in the country
Zen Arado: don't know Arch
Ataraxia Azemus: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Can't have everything
Wol Euler: O.O
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eliza Madrigal: am sure if we find the right locals there is something similar?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, could be :)
Archmage Atlantis: Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy
Ataraxia Azemus: Unless you can get good wireless reception :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: my dog has started to eat grapes and melon
Wol Euler: heheh
Zen Arado: fracture clubs?
Agatha Macbeth: My dog's got no nose
Alfred Kelberry: the pup of impeccable taste
Archmage Atlantis: The animals are in a network......the reception between them is wundabar
Mickorod Renard: how does he smell?
Korel Laloix: If you do use that place, you woud have to fly into Shannon, which seems to be a major airport.
Agatha Macbeth: Bloody awful
Mickorod Renard: boom boom
Agatha Macbeth: :D
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Mickorod Renard: :))
Archmage Atlantis: Ka ching
Wol Euler: ah the old ones are the best.
Ataraxia Azemus: ....oh dear, which I can't. I'm beginning to lose my connection....
Agatha Macbeth: And that WAS old
Ataraxia Azemus: Be well and happy, everyone :)
Korel Laloix: caio
Zen Arado: there are two airports near Belfast Korel
Archmage Atlantis: Et tu, violette
Wol Euler: bye violet, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Be happy and well dear
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Ataraxia, be well and happy
Mickorod Renard: bye Atar
Zen Arado: one is 4 miles from hotel, other 16 miles
Zen Arado: bye Violet
Korel Laloix: Oh, different palce then I was looking at then.
Eliza Madrigal: the price difference for me between the two airports was significant, but not enough to tip the scale
Zen Arado: if anyone goes to Dublin there is a bus station and rail station beside hotel
Eliza Madrigal: ah
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Alfred Kelberry: didn't know belfast means mouth of the sandbars
Zen Arado: me neither :)
Zen Arado: thought it meant Bel Farcet...village on the Farcet river
Zen Arado: something like that
Agatha Macbeth: Don't farcet, it will happen naturally

--BELL--

Wol Euler groans appreciatively
Zen Arado: :)
Archmage Atlantis: most names of places where rivers meet the ocean or other water bodies are designated by "mouth of" in the local and invasive languages
Agatha Macbeth: Quite often, yes
Alfred Kelberry: 18 c in july - sweet
Agatha Macbeth: For July I'd want 20 at least
Alfred Kelberry: no, thank you
Agatha Macbeth: Ok, we'll arrange snow for you then
Alfred Kelberry: you got your boots, you won't get cold :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, true
Alfred Kelberry: ok, botanic gardens is a must
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: For flies
Zen Arado: and museum and art gallery beside the gardens
Eliza Madrigal: so you like plants, as long as they are in the city?
Alfred Kelberry: then a concert at the waterfront hall
Agatha Macbeth: Boxy will sing
Mickorod Renard: botanical gardens are for plants Alf, not bots
Archmage Atlantis: Ok, used the calculator to translate the temp from F to C........if the recalculation is correct,...it is 18 here
Alfred Kelberry: i enjoyed one in berlin
Agatha Macbeth: It was 12 here today - in JANUARY
Wol Euler gasps
Mickorod Renard: I love them, the only place to be in the winter
Agatha Macbeth: Whatever next?
Zen Arado: yes very mild
Archmage Atlantis: I really wish we went to the more global standard bak 30 years ago
Zen Arado: we deserve after last two winters
Agatha Macbeth: True
Agatha Macbeth: I was virtually housebound last December
Alfred Kelberry: gah, rugby is popular there
Eliza Madrigal: that's how many people discover SL
Agatha Macbeth: Or before last rather
Archmage Atlantis: Words are inaccurate, perhaps measurements are more so
Wol Euler nods.
Mickorod Renard: thats deep Arch
Zen Arado: fathoms deep
Agatha Macbeth: Captain Nemo
Wol Euler: my father lies, these are pearls that were his eyes
Agatha Macbeth: Right, ok
Wol Euler: that's shakespeare, that is.
Agatha Macbeth: Which bit?
Zen Arado: from a play wot he wrote?
Wol Euler: fathoms deep my father lies, these are pearls that were his eyes
Agatha Macbeth: Mm
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth: The Tempest?
Wol Euler: yeppers
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Wol Euler: well, that seems to have killed that convessation. Sorry :(
Archmage Atlantis: if we are to be creators, what parameters would we institute?
Mickorod Renard: :))
Agatha Macbeth: RIP conversation
Alfred Kelberry: zen, it's not safe to wear glasgow rangers shirt in belfast? :)
Agatha Macbeth: Depends which part Alf
Zen Arado: yeh
Alfred Kelberry: you know the city well, aga?
Archmage Atlantis: To lie still, is not to be dead....to be killed, is not to live one
Agatha Macbeth: Not at all actually
Zen Arado: don't go up the Falls road with one on
Alfred Kelberry: eek: "it is best to avoid wearing green or orange or the name of any area"
Zen Arado: Celtic shirt would be ok there
Agatha Macbeth: But I saw enough of it in the news as a kid to feel like I was born there...
Zen Arado: it is quite peaceful now
Agatha Macbeth: Thank God
Archmage Atlantis: Thank Humankind,
Archmage Atlantis: Aggie
Agatha Macbeth: Thank everyone
Archmage Atlantis: God left us to figure this out ourselves
Agatha Macbeth: Don't make too good a job of it do we?
Archmage Atlantis: We are still here, Aggie
Wol Euler: for now ...
Agatha Macbeth: Just about
Archmage Atlantis: The job is still ongoing
Agatha Macbeth: The never-ending story
Zen Arado: a new Titanic centre opening in March
Agatha Macbeth: Where?

--BELL--

Zen Arado: Belfast
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Alfred Kelberry: anyhow, i think the northen belfast is off the list
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Zen Arado: that's where I grew up
Agatha Macbeth: So the place in Scotland is definitely out?
Archmage Atlantis: box... why is N Belfast off the list?
Zen Arado: think so
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
Zen Arado: too hard to grt to from airports
Zen Arado: and need min 10 for retreat centre
Agatha Macbeth: Good job it's not a hasty retreat
Zen Arado: would have been handy for you Aga
Archmage Atlantis: So, after flying in, a march to the place would be a way to do it
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, true
Agatha Macbeth: Well I just realised I haven't eaten since I got in
Archmage Atlantis: Waat ho, as they say
Zen Arado: I have been there twice but not at the retreat centre part
Agatha Macbeth: So a belated tea is in order
Eliza Madrigal: :) Night Agatha
Wol Euler: good idea
Zen Arado: food is good
Agatha Macbeth: Shalom
Wol Euler: goodnight, bon appetit
Eliza Madrigal: yes, time for me to run as well
Mickorod Renard: nite nite Ags
Zen Arado: nite Aga
Eliza Madrigal: Shalom :)
Mickorod Renard: nite nite Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Night friends :) <3
Zen Arado: nite Eliza :)
Archmage Atlantis: Hearing songs from "Rocky Horror".. gotta go
Mickorod Renard: I need to get some kip too...nite nite all
Mickorod Renard: take care
Zen Arado: looks like exit time :)
Korel Laloix: Take care.
Wol Euler: bye eliza, mick, arch
Wol Euler: eveyrone
Mickorod Renard: ))
Wol Euler: goodnight zen
Zen Arado: byee all
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Wol Euler: bye korel, bye boxy
Alfred Kelberry: eh, i wanted to ask if zen is unionist or nationalist
Wol Euler: good thing you didn't ;)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, tomorrow :)
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: goodnight, boxy
Alfred Kelberry: auf
Alfred Kelberry: punk well
Wol Euler: fold well
Alfred Kelberry: :)