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The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.
Pema Pera: hi Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: Hi, Pema
Pema Pera: ah, there you are!
Pema Pera: what are we to make of these toys?
Eos Amaterasu: Received a notification about SL hitting the number 9
Eos Amaterasu: I think there was (or maybe is) a party here :-)
Pema Pera: the one nearest is San's, I see
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Eos Amaterasu: There were soccer nets here a few days ago
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Riddle
Pema Pera: another is Moon's
Pema Pera: shall we just return them all? It's a bit crowded, having the whole pool filled up this way
Pema Pera: hi Riddle!
Riddle Sideways: Hi Eos and Pema !!
Eos Amaterasu: don't think of pink flamingos!
Riddle Sideways: o Hi oO
Pema Pera: hi Sam!
Riddle Sideways: 1pm was so much fun floating
Eos Amaterasu: How do you return to sender?
Riddle Sideways: the snow is a little confusing
Samúð (oo0oo) smiles.. Hi gentle people
Eos Amaterasu: ah, I see
Pema Pera: oops,
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Samúð
Pema Pera: I returned the lotus around the center of the pond and/or the listener, I'm afraid
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Lila
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Everyone :)
Pema Pera: hi Lila!
Riddle Sideways: one of those words("oops") that you never want your surgion to say
Samúð (oo0oo) laughs
Riddle Sideways: is it still listening?
Pema Pera: good question :)
Samúð (oo0oo): : ))
Eos Amaterasu: where's "undo"?
Pema Pera: another good question :-)
Riddle Sideways: yes, where is Life's undo
Pema Pera: :)
Samúð (oo0oo): I do
Eos Amaterasu: no listener - gasp!
Pema Pera: :-)
Riddle Sideways: ah use the 'olde' method
Riddle Sideways: do you still remember ?
Pema Pera: I'll send an email to a few folks who may know the answers to at least some of the questions we asked :)
Eos Amaterasu: Would the listener land in Wol's inventory?
Riddle Sideways: or Storms
Lila Darkmatter: oh, goodness... Fael may have to make an appearance from beyond...
Riddle Sideways: oh dear
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Pema Pera: :-)
Eos Amaterasu conjures up ghosts....
Riddle Sideways: Faenik maybe
Samúð (oo0oo): yes dear?
Riddle Sideways: this is so much better then this week's topic/theme
Samúð (oo0oo): [19:10] Riddle Sideways: oh dear
Riddle Sideways: what Dear?
Lila Darkmatter laughs
Lila Darkmatter: Hi Ewan
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ewan
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Ewan
Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Ewan
Ewan (ewan.bonham): Hi Folks..:)
Eos Amaterasu wonders if he can return himself
Riddle Sideways: to whom?
Eos Amaterasu: yes
Samúð (oo0oo): to the competition?
Riddle Sideways: ah
Eos Amaterasu: uh oh
Ewan (ewan.bonham): Return to who?
Samúð (oo0oo): hehe
Ewan (ewan.bonham): If it is a returning to my self nature...could be possible...:)
Pema Pera: okay, sent my email
Lila Darkmatter: the lotus at the heart of it all
Samúð (oo0oo): Garuda well suspended
Pema Pera: hi Ewan!
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Riddle Sideways: This having a weekly theme word or topic is usually good
Riddle Sideways: but, we solved this weeks in a couple sentences
Riddle Sideways: this 1pm
Lila Darkmatter: oh?
Eos Amaterasu listens
Pema Pera: what was the conclusion?
Riddle Sideways: by floating in the fountain
Riddle Sideways: on a summer afternoon
Pema Pera: ah!
Riddle Sideways: and having no competition
Pema Pera: hence the pink flamingoes?
Eos Amaterasu: dolce far niente
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Riddle Sideways: think they came from the morning session
Lila Darkmatter: well, they were present at the morning session... but from perhaps the day before...
Samúð (oo0oo) smiles... #occupy.. blissful remnants
Riddle Sideways: decided that competition is either the root of most evil or darn close
Lila Darkmatter: feel it is just an expression of a certain level of things/thinking
Ewan (ewan.bonham): What might it compete with?
Riddle Sideways: Winners and Losers
Riddle Sideways: and then every body else
Pema Pera: playful competition may be a good thing
Samúð (oo0oo): feels to be awareness of desire in a way
Riddle Sideways: what would "Healthy Competition" be????
Samúð (oo0oo): letting the flavours co-mingle
Ewan (ewan.bonham): Is that not cooperation?
Pema Pera: good question, Ewan!
Samúð (oo0oo): :)
Eos Amaterasu: Origin:
1610–20; < Latin competere to meet, coincide, be fitting, suffice ( Late Latin: seek, ask for), equivalent to com- com- + petere to seek; Late Latin and E sense influenced by competitor
Lila Darkmatter: interesting!
Eos Amaterasu: striving to meet some point, to be up to something
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, influenced by competitor
Samúð (oo0oo): noticing the weather
Riddle Sideways: yes
Eos Amaterasu: what is that stuff coming down?
Riddle Sideways: snow
Riddle Sideways: cooperation = teamwork = team sports
Riddle Sideways: ?
Eos Amaterasu: the sense of stretching your limits, that competition has/can have,, seems healthy
Lila Darkmatter: sparking one another to best or previously unknown ability
Samúð (oo0oo): crickets and frogs operating in chorus
Pema Pera: :-)
Ewan (ewan.bonham): Tension between the inner and outer..
Eos Amaterasu: certain tautness to spirit
Samúð (oo0oo): a continent distinction Eos
Eos Amaterasu: (uh oh) (that's from "Laws of Form", btw)
Pema Pera is wondering about competing with himself, trying to live better . . . .
Lila Darkmatter: so other connotations to the 'competition' may come in with motivation
Lila Darkmatter: yes Pema?
Samúð (oo0oo) listens
Riddle Sideways: what if you lose. Pema
Pema Pera: hahaha
Lila Darkmatter: :)
Riddle Sideways: what if you win, Pema
Riddle Sideways: what is you come in third place, Pema
Pema Pera: competition may not be about results, necessarily
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Riddle Sideways: Remember those "New Age Games" where there was no winner, no losers, everybody tied.
Riddle Sideways: I kids saw through that
Riddle Sideways: how to separate results from competition
Eos Amaterasu: the thing about competition is betterness turning to egoness
Lila Darkmatter: mmm
Eos Amaterasu: defining yourself by that
Eos Amaterasu: and defining the other....
Samúð (oo0oo): open ended exploration may not allow for competition?
Eos Amaterasu: oh, I think it may (as in science, right?)
Samúð (oo0oo): no references.. perhaps more open than that
Samúð (oo0oo): but what am i comparing?
Lila Darkmatter: batons bantered about in time
Pema Pera pondering Sam's question . . .
Pema Pera: the notion of "starting at the end" seems to jump over an attitude of competition
Pema Pera: and that might be the ultimate "open ended exploration"
Lila Darkmatter: garuda wings ... but encompassing the energy, the flapping...?
Riddle Sideways: ah, is "starting at the end"... the after the finish line... the next...
Pema Pera: the sense that nothing has to be obtained
Eos Amaterasu: starting at the end competes with never having to leave the beginning
Pema Pera: :-)
Eos Amaterasu visualizes a line with a beginning and an end
Ewan (ewan.bonham): Folks I must run...rl ...but thank you...reflections...:)
Lila Darkmatter waves to Ewan
Eos Amaterasu: ciao Ewan
Riddle Sideways: bye
Pema Pera: bye Ewan
Samúð (oo0oo): friendly encampments Ewan!
Riddle Sideways visualizes a line with no beginning and no end
Lila Darkmatter: lineless nature of lines
Samúð (oo0oo): me ponders batons
Eos Amaterasu: and cheerleaders
Pema Pera: perhaps conceptual thinking implies competition: with one meaning assigned, less room for other meanings . . . .
Eos Amaterasu: too much continence
Eos Amaterasu: interesting that we often use competition to raise energy
Lila Darkmatter nods
Eos Amaterasu: maybe the other shows what we are lacking
Eos Amaterasu: or makes us discover that
Pema Pera: yes, that's what I had in mind with "trying to live better", a kind of comparison with "life as I seem to be living now" with "life as I could imagine living it (in a better way)"
Pema Pera: something we probably all are engaged in to at least some extent much of the time
Samúð (oo0oo): passing the baton.. opportunities
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stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Riddle Sideways: Hi Stev
Eos Amaterasu: pema
Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Stevnaia
Lila Darkmatter: Hi stevenaia :)
Lila Darkmatter: better way - less striving perhaps
Pema Pera: hi Steve!
Riddle Sideways: perhaps more striving too
stevenaia Michinaga: hello to all, the fountain has changed
Lila Darkmatter: :) Riddle
Eos Amaterasu: ahem
Riddle Sideways: :) better not to mention the fountain
Lila Darkmatter: hahaha
Pema Pera: yes, we had a battle of the pink flamingoes . . . .
Eos Amaterasu: it's okay, no one is listening
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Pema Pera: and collatoral damage occurred
Lila Darkmatter: this session deserves an entry in PaB Trivial Pursuit game
Eos Amaterasu: turns out there is no undo
Riddle Sideways: like RL
Lila Darkmatter: starting at the undone
Pema Pera: :)
Eos Amaterasu: where everything is returned
Lila Darkmatter smiles at Eos
Samúð (oo0oo): :)
Pema Pera: have to leave now, good seeing you all
Riddle Sideways: so competing with yourselves, but no winners and no losers
Lila Darkmatter: Have a nice day Pema
Riddle Sideways: bye, nice to have seen you :)
Pema Pera: (lunch often punctually at 12 noon in Japan, ten minutes hence)
Eos Amaterasu: well, 'night all!
Lila Darkmatter giggles
stevenaia Michinaga: night Pema
Pema Pera: bfn
Lila Darkmatter: Night Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: thanks
Samúð (oo0oo): :)
Riddle Sideways: is Eos in Japan?
Samúð (oo0oo): Good question!
Lila Darkmatter: :)for Eos it is midnight when noon for Pema... so perhaps similar sort of bell
stevenaia Michinaga: it is almost midnight where is usually resides
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Lila Darkmatter: pumpkins and all that
Samúð (oo0oo): Sun and Moon
Samúð (oo0oo): Dragon swoonN
Lila Darkmatter: /me smiles
Samúð (oo0oo): /me sighs contentedly
Riddle Sideways: yes
Samúð (oo0oo): [19:50] Riddle Sideways: so competing with yourselves, but no winners and no losers
Riddle Sideways: did not matter who won or lost. It is the race and the having done it
Riddle Sideways: to be able to (not) look back and say I/Me/ego did
Riddle Sideways: but to have us all advance
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds so simple but there is the unfortunate need for some to always be ahead
Riddle Sideways: yeah
Lila Darkmatter: indeed... suppose this is why traditions encourage to give up credit... surrender ourselves
stevenaia Michinaga: like something is lost if we all advance
Lila Darkmatter: make a habit of that
Riddle Sideways: ba bye all
stevenaia Michinaga: bye riddle
Lila Darkmatter: lovely to see you
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Lila
Lila Darkmatter: bye Stevenaia... nice to see you and wish you so so well
stevenaia Michinaga: thnx, you too
Lila Darkmatter: (((( )))
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