2012.06.29 07:00 - June Dream Circle

The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

Eliza and Luci share two dreams...

Boxy stops by toward the end...

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci :) I see you went back to Zinnia's :))
Lucinda Lavender: yes! and I met her
Eliza Madrigal: OH, fantastic
Lucinda Lavender: she gave me a bscarf that I can change color:)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I should wear my cape...
Lucinda Lavender: cool!
Eliza Madrigal: so glad you two met... both fireballs and interested in color :)
Lucinda Lavender: what are you wearing on your legs?
Lucinda Lavender: I have these leggings in real life that are black and white tye dye...much the same
Eliza Madrigal: I have no idea what I am wearing atm... I see myself as wearing Xirana's dress and a blue cape, with the socks from an old outfit, lol.... have been having trouble as Eliza so I tried to sort inventory yesterday and tried onn many things
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, okay... this pattern is from one of Xirana's paintings that was made into a dress for an exhibit opening :))
Lucinda Lavender: ah...wow...such a neat idea
Eliza Madrigal: it turned out really beautifully... the cut quite professional and elegant

Eliza Madrigal: btw, I apologize for not being more on the ball this morning to send a note for dream circle... I gave a heads up in emails earlier but if I send now people will arrive quite late perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: what do you think?
Lucinda Lavender: it is fine...where would you send the note?
Lucinda Lavender: in here?
Eliza Madrigal: as a notice in world, which would reach some by email
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Eliza Madrigal: Or, we could just have a small circle or share dreams loosely :)
Lucinda Lavender: I think it is ok to have a small one...
Eliza Madrigal: k
Lucinda Lavender: I was just trying to remember this mornings dream
Eliza Madrigal: I didn't bring a dream from last night ... mine have been fuzzy lately... but I have one from May
Lucinda Lavender: great!
Eliza Madrigal: it is a bit long to write out, but not really long otherwise
Eliza Madrigal: shall I post that, while you gather last night's?
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Here goes...
Eliza Madrigal: To my (the dreamer's) left is an unilluminated path. There is a kind of ‘falconer’ figure in the path, which is swampy and has the feel of Africa and the Florida Everglades. It is full of hippos and rhinoceros.
Eliza Madrigal: I am sitting toward the beginning of the path, wondering how to go down it with all these creatures (although they are not aggressive), when one bites me. It is biting me and I am aware that there is pain, but I don’t feel it.
Eliza Madrigal: I know the rhino is about to bite off my arm, but this falconer person begins a religious incantation “in the name of Jesus…”, and the rhino lets me go. But, I don’t continue trying to go down that path… I don’t identify with it.
Eliza Madrigal: Instead, I go down a long, thin, slightly curved and ‘delicate’ path to my right. When I come to the end the sight is breathtaking: the land is rather even/flat, covered with very white, gentle gentle gentle snow.
Eliza Madrigal: There are delicate red leaved trees everywhere… tiny Maple leaves. It is nothing short of exquisite, the red and white. I run back quickly, to a little house in the middle of the two paths (that I didn’t remember in the beginning), to get my camera, but I cannot photograph it. Instead, I consciously allow myself to wake up, standing in this amazing setting.
Eliza Madrigal: [end]
Lucinda Lavender: wow..such striking imagery
Eliza Madrigal: was a beautiful dream
Eliza Madrigal: ty
Lucinda Lavender: full of awe
Lucinda Lavender: at beauty
Lucinda Lavender: The falconer is an interesting chacater
Lucinda Lavender: character
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Lucinda Lavender: perhaps protector

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: and the wild animals who can be fierce...have seen those in dreams
Eliza Madrigal: the feeling of being bitten was interesting... sinking into my leg
Lucinda Lavender: sounds like pain did not figure in
Lucinda Lavender: wounds...remembered perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: interesting
Lucinda Lavender: or projected forward perhaps...potential ones
Eliza Madrigal: the perspective was fascinating because at the beginning I know only this one way
Lucinda Lavender: ah...but through time more paths are revealed
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: the white and the red...
Lucinda Lavender: ecstasy...dreaming
Eliza Madrigal: the feeling of 'consciously waking up' stayed with me for days afterward as well
Lucinda Lavender: a wake up call of sorts
Eliza Madrigal: do you remember your dream yet?
Lucinda Lavender: to enter down the delicate and in an even environment
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
Lucinda Lavender: mine is a bit there...here
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: it felt like a high energy environment..like I had travelled and was shopping there
Lucinda Lavender: engaging with the community
Lucinda Lavender: and there may have been more people I knew...but as time went forward I was mainly remembering one person from my childhood..in a current situation
Eliza Madrigal: so this was a familiar setting?
Eliza Madrigal: you'd been away and came back?
Lucinda Lavender: no
Lucinda Lavender: no I was just away in the new place
Eliza Madrigal: ah
Lucinda Lavender: and someone from highschool is suddenly there...asking for advise on her appeance
Lucinda Lavender: appearance
Lucinda Lavender: does this look ok for my trip to california she wondered
Lucinda Lavender: and I said yes
Lucinda Lavender: I was wearing an indigo dress and brownish red tights
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Lucinda Lavender: as I looked down
Lucinda Lavender: the activity before speaking with this friend(who rarely comes into my mind even) was more involved but hard to remember.
Lucinda Lavender: felt like a replay dream of travel and engagment there
Lucinda Lavender: yet with new elements
Eliza Madrigal: you were giving her feedback and encouragement
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Lucinda Lavender: after speaking with Zinnia and buying these pajamas I was thinking perhaps it was stimulating to the dream

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: some kind of rememberance or participation in high school
Eliza Madrigal: interesting... maybe Zinnia seemed familiar in that way... someone from a common ground?
Lucinda Lavender: for certain there
Lucinda Lavender: high school is sometimes a place of teaching
Eliza Madrigal nods
Lucinda Lavender: the friend from the dream is significant because of her name
Lucinda Lavender: which she may have changed after moving to california in RL
Lucinda Lavender: but never here from her
Eliza Madrigal: a name is a kind of presentation.. appearance
Lucinda Lavender: the name has a color in it
Lucinda Lavender: green
Eliza Madrigal: :) so many associations... isn't mind fascinating...
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: never hear from her now
Lucinda Lavender: I meant to say
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes one person will represent another, right?
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Eliza Madrigal: this happens to me with dreams quite often, in fact so often has one particular person showed up as another than I see them almost the same in ways
Eliza Madrigal: *that
Lucinda Lavender: wow yes
Lucinda Lavender: so interesting like a placholder
Lucinda Lavender: placeholder
Eliza Madrigal: perhaps we can 'represent' things for people.... sort of fits with the masks theme this week
Eliza Madrigal: clothing, names, presentations...
Lucinda Lavender: interesting yes!
Eliza Madrigal: appreciations
Lucinda Lavender: new and old
Lucinda Lavender: new mask old mask
Eliza Madrigal: :) like that
Eliza Madrigal: representative of certain times of life, too
Lucinda Lavender: well getting out of ones usual environment or taking a new path seems like a vibrant theme
Lucinda Lavender: too
Lucinda Lavender: it somehow allows for the formation of the new dream image
Lucinda Lavender: freshness
Eliza Madrigal: freshness, yes!
Lucinda Lavender: green
Lucinda Lavender: like walking into a green wood
Eliza Madrigal: potential
Lucinda Lavender: we so much want to transform
Lucinda Lavender: me thinks
Eliza Madrigal: when we say something feels like 'home'.. I wonder what we are really saying underneath...
Eliza Madrigal: place of generation, source of inspiration...
Eliza Madrigal: not just familiarity, not just safety
Eliza Madrigal: but beginnings energy
Lucinda Lavender: ground of being
Eliza Madrigal: Nice! that's it...
Lucinda Lavender: and travel to the new place inspires transformation
Eliza Madrigal: the path that opened up felt like home, and the earlier path was more familiar but never felt that way
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lucinda Lavender: was going to say...the falconer being a bird worker has the air(the thoughts) as a field of potential
Eliza Madrigal 's childhood was full of alligators and rhinos...hahah...
Eliza Madrigal: oh?

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: power animals...powerful animals...well and the snow feels like the crystalized form ..slower moving form of water not rushing...still
Lucinda Lavender: still yet not withought color there...mayples
Eliza Madrigal: I interpreted it myself as shedding a feeling of condemnation/sin thinking... really love the idea of snow as stillness
Eliza Madrigal: I'd sort of linked renunciation/bliss
Lucinda Lavender: ah...yes
Lucinda Lavender: yes the incantor
Eliza Madrigal: I like your seeing him as a protector
Eliza Madrigal: sort of held things open in a way, so that the other path opened
Lucinda Lavender: going back to look...is he different from the falconer or the same guy?>
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if, in a bit of a stretch... this role you played for your friend was like that... feedback can be a kind of permission given to someone to live a new life
Eliza Madrigal: yes, falconer same
Eliza Madrigal: show their colors :)
Lucinda Lavender: wondered if I had experienced it with Zinnia
Lucinda Lavender: back and forth
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Lucinda Lavender: taking and giving energy
Eliza Madrigal: beautiful
Lucinda Lavender: I think perhaps old friends popping up has been a new theme for me
Eliza Madrigal: it is nice to stop and appreciate when people come into our lives that we feel resonate with
Lucinda Lavender: had it happen in the last dream remembered...a month ago or so
Eliza Madrigal: care to share?
Lucinda Lavender: just seeing someone in the dream who I was close to once
Lucinda Lavender: they sort of popped in
Lucinda Lavender: out of the blue
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Lucinda Lavender: think your dreamseemed like a view of life
Eliza Madrigal: I get sort of teary even now, remembering the feeling at the end
Lucinda Lavender: perspective gained
Eliza Madrigal: consciously chosen
Lucinda Lavender: deep work done
Eliza Madrigal: in a funny way, the following cartoon has relevance here: http://imm.io/uqIx
Eliza Madrigal: (haha)
Lucinda Lavender: chuckling!
Eliza Madrigal: especially since you've been watching the Tibetan films.. considering dreams and memory
Lucinda Lavender: I love that
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: deep breath.sigh
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Boxy
Eliza Madrigal: I took a few pictures... one of which I'll share with Zinnia, Luci :))
Lucinda Lavender: had a dream lately?
Lucinda Lavender: thanks so much Eliza
Lucinda Lavender: that is great
Eliza Madrigal: :)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: was listening this morning, to an interview with someone who just wrote a book about the Nobel Prize... really fascinating...views on peace
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Alfred Kelberry: fancy looking eliza :)
Lucinda Lavender: I was just going to say I listened to a piece on the radio about pausing ever 15 or so to experience silence and stillness
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, cupcake hat *licks* :)
Eliza Madrigal: am dressed in gifts from friends
Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow Luci, do say more?
Alfred Kelberry: is it your birthday?
Eliza Madrigal: nope :)
Lucinda Lavender: I was driving at the time but...there seems to be a need every 15-20 to sit back and process...allow the air to become still and the mind calm
Eliza Madrigal: lovely
Lucinda Lavender: and I thought of PaB
Lucinda Lavender: a fellow did research on silence
Lucinda Lavender: went to the quietest place
Lucinda Lavender: sat there 45 minutes
Lucinda Lavender: listened to heart, pulse, many internal sounds
Lucinda Lavender: all other sounds absorbed
Eliza Madrigal smiles... like snow
Lucinda Lavender: Wow yes!NPR
Alfred Kelberry: lucu, where did he go?
Lucinda Lavender: In the Native American culture he spoke of a waiting that is done after each person speaks
Lucinda Lavender: a space of silence
Lucinda Lavender: I am am not sure now Alfred
Lucinda Lavender: in the middle ofUS somewhere there is a sound studio
Lucinda Lavender: quietest place in the world by Guiness standards
Alfred Kelberry: soundproof room?
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Alfred Kelberry: neat
Eliza Madrigal: the space of silence... pausing... returning
Lucinda Lavender: reallypowerful
Lucinda Lavender: very respectuful too
Lucinda Lavender: we fireballs can get rolling:)))
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Alfred Kelberry: what was his research question?
Lucinda Lavender: I do not know
Alfred Kelberry: :/
Lucinda Lavender: sorry...let me look at the NPR site...
Eliza Madrigal: keeping the space of silence alive
Eliza Madrigal: is good manners
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, easy to do - speak less :)
Eliza Madrigal: I think it is more than that, Boxy...
Alfred Kelberry: i'd rather not speculate on his motives
Eliza Madrigal: like, in a Quaker meeting, people speak into the silence, but if they are coming from a respectful stance, what they say doesn't 'break ' the silence...
Eliza Madrigal: not what I was doing, don't know the guy ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: I was speaking from my own sense of guarding
Eliza Madrigal: and also continuing a theme we've been in since the beginning of the hr
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, "speak to the silence" means meditating?
Lucinda Lavender: It was at KUOW and the name of the program was The Value of Silence
Eliza Madrigal: ty Luci
Alfred Kelberry: luci, thank you
Eliza Madrigal: I should mention the name of the book I referenced earlier is "Peace, They Say"
Lucinda Lavender: If you search at KUOW's site you can listen...it was the ross Renolds show
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, "speak to the silence" means meditating?
Eliza Madrigal: it can... lots of different kinds of meditating ...
Eliza Madrigal: was just highlighting one example of Quaker meetings
Eliza Madrigal: which is really interesting to partake in
Eliza Madrigal: even if not my particular form
Lucinda Lavender: kind of like dream circle
Alfred Kelberry: ok, but those with "higher status" can actually speak out without "disturbing" the silence?
Eliza Madrigal: precisely, yes
Lucinda Lavender: it can have that stillness
Eliza Madrigal: (Luci)
Eliza Madrigal: not higher status... no status there
Eliza Madrigal: well, when form is respected by everyone
Alfred Kelberry: i don't like this hierarchy
Eliza Madrigal: gotta move onto another meeting now... thanks so much
Lucinda Lavender: thanks Eliza...
Alfred Kelberry: bye
Lucinda Lavender: have a great day

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal waves, you too
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, you may want to claim the log now Luci
Eliza Madrigal: just in case
Lucinda Lavender: I already did at the beginning?
Lucinda Lavender: should I try again?
Eliza Madrigal: I mean stop it so you get a link now
Eliza Madrigal: just in case there is an issue of receiving in email