The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

Who was supposed to be the guardian for this session?  Well, she/he didn't show -- so I took it.  Boxy, Kori and I exchanged some interesting thoughts on marathons and doggie mouth movements -- and masks.

Korel Laloix: Very natural look for you Bruce... smiles

Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Kori!
Korel Laloix: What you up to?
Bruce Mowbray: Experimenting with masks, of course.
Korel Laloix: I hope you have two on.
Bruce Mowbray: Thou lookest like an African explorer.
Bruce Mowbray: Always at least two masks, my dear.
Korel Laloix: Not sure what it is.. but I Like it.
Bruce Mowbray: It is a plain paper bag.
Korel Laloix: Probably more healthy that way.
Bruce Mowbray: I have a lot of others, but I think you may have already seen them all.
Korel Laloix: Maybe.
Korel Laloix: Have you made any yourself?
Bruce Mowbray: Does this look like a paper bag to you?
Korel Laloix: Yes.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I have made a of masks couple myself.
Bruce Mowbray: just a sec....
Korel Laloix: Needs to say like Wal-mart on the like on it though.
Bruce Mowbray: Here's one I made of my typist....
Korel Laloix: wow... now that is an ugly mask.
Korel Laloix smiles
Bruce Mowbray: INDEED!!!!!
Bruce Mowbray: I could NOT agree MORE!!!~
Korel Laloix: Nice eyes though.
Bruce Mowbray: It helps (but not much) if I make it a bit bigger.
Korel Laloix: Spoken like a true man.
Korel Laloix: lol
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Bruce Mowbray: What is a "true man"?
Bruce Mowbray: Hey Boxy!
Alfred Kelberry: *hugs kori*
Korel Laloix: Not sure, but it is not a compliment.
Bruce Mowbray figured that.
Korel Laloix: I don't hug.. but thanks for the thought.
Alfred Kelberry: i know :)
Alfred Kelberry: are you off to a trip?
Korel Laloix: Sorry.. in a fairly good I-hate-men mood...
Korel Laloix: No.. but I would love to be.
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, San!
Alfred Kelberry: this is a "good to be a puppy" day then :)
Alfred Kelberry: I'm off to a trip next month
Bruce Mowbray: also a good "good-to-be-an-avi" day.
Alfred Kelberry: tents and all
Bruce Mowbray: Where are you going Boxy?
Alfred Kelberry: can't disclose
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
Bruce Mowbray: (one secretive puppy, that one).
Korel Laloix: Oo.. sounds fun and incriminating.
Alfred Kelberry: kori :)
Bruce Mowbray: So, that is about masks, huh?
Bruce Mowbray: not disclosing, I mean.
Korel Laloix: What is?
Korel Laloix: Oh.
Bruce Mowbray: np.
Bruce Mowbray: I have plenty of things I don't wish to disclose.
Bruce Mowbray: probably far more than you have.
Bruce Mowbray: But I allow for the propriety of masks -- in a positive sense.
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Bruce Mowbray: For example, I close the door on the bathroom (a sort of mask) when I use the toilet.
Alfred Kelberry: like this hat on you, kori
Bruce Mowbray: Tallulah Bankhead did not do this.
Bruce Mowbray: She thought it was not polite to ask her guests to wait while she attended to "calls of nature."
Korel Laloix: Who?
Bruce Mowbray: so. . . she invited them into the bathroom with her!
Bruce Mowbray: Tallulah Bankhead.
Korel Laloix: Closing the door when you go is not a mask.. it is a courtesy.
Bruce Mowbray: actress and comedian.
Korel Laloix: Looking her up.
Bruce Mowbray: Well, it is a mask that society has made into a courtesy..
Bruce Mowbray: Ths bathroom door still a device to hide behind.
Bruce Mowbray: This was revealed in Tennessee Williams' MEMOIRS... which I am currently reading.

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: To me that is a very odd way of looking at it... to me it is about hygiene and manners.
Korel Laloix: Not a mask.
Bruce Mowbray: Let us know what you find, Kori, please. . .
Bruce Mowbray ponders "manners"
Korel Laloix: Just found the wiki on her.
Korel Laloix: Looks interesting.
Bruce Mowbray: Most of what we call "manners" is a way of wearing masks, if you ask me (which you have not, of course).
Bruce Mowbray listens for more on Tallulah.
Korel Laloix: You really think that preventing someone from smelling your bathroom products is just a mask?
Bruce Mowbray: Is deodorant a mask?
Bruce Mowbray: and why do you say "just"?
Korel Laloix: Probably.
Korel Laloix: You seem to say that manners are just masks.
Korel Laloix: I disagree.
Korel Laloix: brb.. work.
Bruce Mowbray: My point is that masks are necessary. . .
Bruce Mowbray: no no -- I am not saying "JUST" masks.
Bruce Mowbray: Masks are extremely important and necessary -- without which culture would crumble.
Bruce Mowbray: kk, work is the top priority, Kori. Go for it!
Bruce Mowbray thinks: Whew! This mask is HEAVY!

Bruce Mowbray: afk for a sec. . . brb....
Bruce Mowbray: [back]
Bruce Mowbray wonders if he should claim this session.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh heck - Why not?!
Bruce Mowbray: So, going camping in some un-disclosed location, Boxy?
Bruce Mowbray: sounds good to moi8.
Bruce Mowbray: I wouldn't disclose it either!
Bruce Mowbray: moi8 = moi = French for me.
Alfred Kelberry: that is correct
Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful!
Bruce Mowbray: I camped out for 89 straight nights in 1977.
Bruce Mowbray: It's a fine experience.
Bruce Mowbray: especially when you're on the move and alone...
Alfred Kelberry: that's too much for me, but sounds great :)
Bruce Mowbray: . . . never knowing where the next night will find you.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it was perhaps the most exhilarating thing I've ever done.
Bruce Mowbray: anyway, I hope you have a great time!
Alfred Kelberry: hippy wanderer? :)
Bruce Mowbray: How long will you be out there, or is that also a secret?
Alfred Kelberry: Thank you, Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I am a happy [not hippie] wanderer -- or WAS.
Bruce Mowbray: Now, unfortunately, I'm very sedentary.
Bruce Mowbray: Except for a morning walk of a mile each day.
Bruce Mowbray wonders why doggies move their mouths like that.
Korel Laloix: back
Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, which is more than an average American walks a day, i think :)
Bruce Mowbray 's typist's dog also moves his mouth like that.
Bruce Mowbray: Well, the most I walked in one day (in 1977) was 26 miles....
Korel Laloix: What did I miss?

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: but now I'm doing well to walk one mile!
Alfred Kelberry: kori, travel talk
Korel Laloix: I have run 26 miles a couple of times.
Bruce Mowbray thinks (during the silence): "Running 26 miles would probably be suicide for moi."
Alfred Kelberry: kori, how did you feel after that?
Bruce Mowbray listens for Kori's response.
Bruce Mowbray: ?
Korel Laloix: Well...
Alfred Kelberry: 26 miles non-stop?
Korel Laloix: The first things are immediate... want to know your time and the your friends' times.. and the people you wanted to beat.
Korel Laloix: Yes.
Bruce Mowbray continues to listen....
Korel Laloix: Then you want something to drink. Clean up.
Alfred Kelberry: so you didn't fall on the ground catching your breath?
Bruce Mowbray: and celebrate???
Korel Laloix: Then eat... and then get laid.
Korel Laloix: Then sleep.
Bruce Mowbray: Well, that's a sort of celebration, indeed.
Korel Laloix: Sort of predictable for me.
Korel Laloix: A lot of people get depressed.
Bruce Mowbray: (the getting laid part, I meant).
Korel Laloix: But days afterwards though.
Bruce Mowbray: really?
Bruce Mowbray: Why is that, Kori?
Alfred Kelberry: bad time :)
Korel Laloix: Just emotional let down from such a bit prep time and accomplishment.
Bruce Mowbray: oh yeah.
Korel Laloix: Then they realize the did all that for that...
Bruce Mowbray: I think it IS A REALLY BIG deal -- to have run in a marathon - - something I shall never do, alas.
Bruce Mowbray: I salute you for it!
Korel Laloix: It is waaaaaaaayyyy over rated.
Korel Laloix: I just do them out of peer pressure.
Bruce Mowbray: Really?
Korel Laloix: I prefer halves.
Bruce Mowbray: Your friends (or whomever) are also running like this?
Korel Laloix: A marathon to me is more the mind game... halves are more about actually running.
Korel Laloix: I am the social secretary for our running club.
Bruce Mowbray: I see... and understand.
Bruce Mowbray: Cool!
Korel Laloix: I hit the wall at about 23 miles.. the last three are torture.
Korel Laloix: Most hit it as about 20... lucky me.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I can surely understand THAT!
Bruce Mowbray: I would hit the wall at about 1/2 mile.
Korel Laloix: By then the endorphins have rubbed off and it is not fun any more.
Alfred Kelberry: ok, I'm off
Korel Laloix: lol
Alfred Kelberry: be good folks
Korel Laloix: Ciao.
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Boxy!
Bruce Mowbray: poof!
Korel Laloix: Seen that one.
Bruce Mowbray: You are a fine and complex individual, Kori -- and it is enriching to know you.
Bruce Mowbray: You add dimensions to my experience that I would otherwise not have.
Korel Laloix: Thanks... I think...
Bruce Mowbray: I do a lot of stuff vicariously....
Bruce Mowbray: but none the less, valuable.
Korel Laloix: I sooo wish I was not a complex as I am.... complex = messed up
Bruce Mowbray: You at least realize your own complexity -- and there is much to build on there!
Korel Laloix: Thank you.. and I do find you to be very thought provoking as well..
Korel Laloix: Much to get rid of first though.
Bruce Mowbray: You're not a mono-chrome gal. . . and you're multi-layered.
Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, but it's all workable, actually.
Korel Laloix: Annoying gal... smiles
Bruce Mowbray: It took me many decades to appreciate that.
Korel Laloix: That you were annoying?
Korel Laloix smiles
Bruce Mowbray: Yeah, and I am an annoying man, just ask my friends!
Bruce Mowbray also smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: humbling to realize an accept.
Korel Laloix: I will take a poll the next big crowd.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, do that! And see what the results are -- BRUCE IS ANNOYING!
Bruce Mowbray: (unanimous)
Korel Laloix: We can have a general poll about the whole PaB.. vote early and often.
Bruce Mowbray: I spelled something wrong there... don't know what, though.
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha ha!
Korel Laloix: English spelling escapes me a lot of the time.
Korel Laloix: So what else did you talk about with boxy?
Bruce Mowbray: Me too! And I taught it for 15 years!!!!
Bruce Mowbray: Totally irrational.
Korel Laloix: Sounds painful.
Bruce Mowbray: I didn't talk about anything with Boxy.
Bruce Mowbray: He's shy around such as moi.
Korel Laloix: Well.. it was built with purpose and in some cases style, but without direction.
Korel Laloix: Why is that?
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmmm.
Korel Laloix: You were annoying to him?
Bruce Mowbray: (spelling you mean?)
Korel Laloix: Well... the English language.
Bruce Mowbray: no no, I would never be intentionally annoying to Boxy!
Korel Laloix: I would not unless I had the chance.
Korel Laloix grins
Bruce Mowbray: The English language -- like all of the rest of us -- is a hodge-podge of parts --
Bruce Mowbray: some not exactly rational -- and some not exactly harmonious.
Korel Laloix: English came from birds?
Bruce Mowbray: English came from many roots, actually.
Korel Laloix: That is true.. but I do like some things about English.

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: And then the Americans decided to spell things differently from the British --
Korel Laloix: Lets you mask some real intent for sure.
Bruce Mowbray: Indeed!
Bruce Mowbray: Masking is a very important aspect of language -- and thanks for bringing that up.
Korel Laloix: My pleasure.
Bruce Mowbray: I'd not thought of it until now.
Bruce Mowbray: Well, friend, I should probably be off to scrape up grub for din din.
Korel Laloix: Strange how we come up with so many ways to obscure reality, even from ourselves.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes.
Korel Laloix: You make it sound so appealing.
Bruce Mowbray: And what, do you suppose, is the cause of our needing to obscure reality?
Bruce Mowbray: needing to close the bathroom door, for example.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Korel Laloix: Manners.
Korel Laloix: Necessity.
Korel Laloix: Form.
Bruce Mowbray: O my.
Korel Laloix: Bad self esteem.
Korel Laloix: Artistic reasons.
Korel Laloix: Compassion.
Korel Laloix: Competition.
Bruce Mowbray: What the hell are these patterns FOR?
Korel Laloix: Love.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh!
Bruce Mowbray: kk.,
Bruce Mowbray: I will go with that one.
Bruce Mowbray: I have this thing - an acronym: "COAL."
Bruce Mowbray: Consciousness....
Korel Laloix: Black burning stuff?
Bruce Mowbray: Openness.....
Bruce Mowbray: Acceptance....
Bruce Mowbray: and Love.
Bruce Mowbray: If those are your guideposts,
Bruce Mowbray: then you're on a good path.
Korel Laloix: You need a bit of the first three to have he last.
Bruce Mowbray: Indeed!
Bruce Mowbray: So, with your words of wisdom,
Bruce Mowbray: I shall be off.
Korel Laloix: Thanks for the chat.
Korel Laloix: Enjoy your scrapings.
Bruce Mowbray: Thank YOU, Kori!
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
Korel Laloix: Ciao bello.
Bruce Mowbray: Ciao bello.