The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.
Attending were Eliza, Paradise, Santoshima, and Storm.
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Luci Juicy-fruit (pjs)
Lucinda Lavender: :)) Hello Eliza:)
Eliza Madrigal: nice to be able to attend your session again
Lucinda Lavender: Yes!
Lucinda Lavender: are you wearing a new dress?
Eliza Madrigal nods... good of you to notice
Lucinda Lavender: very pretty:0
Lucinda Lavender: ) i meant
Eliza Madrigal: ty ^.^
Eliza Madrigal: so I'm really curious what is going on with you - what you are thinking about these days
Lucinda Lavender: hmm:)...will think
Lucinda Lavender: working pretty hard at work....new kids starting and one with sort of a tantrum response to transitions...I think working on communication and not worrying:)
Eliza Madrigal: sounds challenging
Lucinda Lavender: trusting that i know how to handle things
Eliza Madrigal: do you have an assistant also?
Lucinda Lavender: there are 4 teachers in the room...
Lucinda Lavender: and 14 children
Lucinda Lavender: and a very rich environment theme wise
Eliza Madrigal: so able to take some extra time with the child for some things
Lucinda Lavender: chinese lunar new year, valentines,
Lucinda Lavender: and yes...time and space for the child
Lucinda Lavender: i think we are in an initial period of adjustmentd
Lucinda Lavender: testing
Lucinda Lavender: etc
Lucinda Lavender: it can be exhausting to the child to fall on the floor in distress
Eliza Madrigal: am thinking of coping skills
Eliza Madrigal: some have thinner buffers
Lucinda Lavender: our goal is to attempt to make the experience successfull
Lucinda Lavender: yes.. thinner buffers
Eliza Madrigal: when my oldest daughter was dropped off at school in the mornings, as a preschooler, there was about 20 minutes of ritual to help her make the transition
Lucinda Lavender: nodding! finding what works
Lucinda Lavender: what did she like..?
Eliza Madrigal: well I can't say we ever got it perfect...
Eliza Madrigal: but she liked for me to stay through songs and pledges after she was in the room, as well as saying bye in a few different ways before she was in
Eliza Madrigal: some days it was really hard
Eliza Madrigal: and I'd sit in the car crying after, knowing she wasn't having an easy time
Lucinda Lavender: ahhh!
Lucinda Lavender: I can imagine.
Eliza Madrigal: she got out of the car today - i dropped her off at university - and I had a flash of her as so little still :)
Lucinda Lavender: some kids like to write a note home...or watch and wave out the window
Lucinda Lavender: ah...amazing
Lucinda Lavender: university!
Eliza Madrigal: her teacher could have been a bit less strict - feel she made it harder, especially sort of invalidating the bond we felt
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Eliza Madrigal: but the philosophy was ... well, many times teachers telling me "cut the cord, mom"
Eliza Madrigal: but I didn't really believe in doing that :)
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Lucinda Lavender: good for you!
Eliza Madrigal: jury out! lol
Lucinda Lavender: lol
Lucinda Lavender: well our connections are so important
Lucinda Lavender: i was more business like i guess due to working in the field
Lucinda Lavender: but i totally understand
Eliza Madrigal: consistency and clarity are important... if there is a feeling of security it is easier, even with a certain strictness in place
Lucinda Lavender: I experienced a lot of resistence
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: consistency as in ritual at the leaving time? I think that helps alot...and if the crying does not stop then we call the parent. Writing a note home seems to make a big differnece and sitting next to an adult who is "planted" as my boss calls it:)( the note home is written from the childs words)
Eliza Madrigal: planted?
Lucinda Lavender: taking a walk for a cracker or to the window:)
Lucinda Lavender: planted...means sitting and not flitting around
Eliza Madrigal: consistency of ritual yes, between parent and teacher - that's what I feel was missing in hindsight
Lucinda Lavender: it greatly helps to insure a calm mood
Eliza Madrigal: I see :) an anchor
Eliza Madrigal: grounding presence
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Eliza Madrigal: makes sense
Lucinda Lavender: " it models...i do need to move...and really you don't either":)
Lucinda Lavender: we are all just feeling the groove
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Lucinda Lavender: watching the room
Lucinda Lavender: noticing things
Lucinda Lavender: noticing what interests the child
Lucinda Lavender: and working with it
Lucinda Lavender: it was trains for a lot of boys...
Lucinda Lavender: you can tune everything out with a train:)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: new environment can bring on true suffering
Lucinda Lavender: when it is not ones choice
Lucinda Lavender: and even when it is i think
Eliza Madrigal: when there are articles about events that create the most stress... they are all transitions... it doesn't matter if they are good or bad really
Eliza Madrigal: but there does seem to be varying abilities to cope
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Eliza Madrigal: that's what I had to learn with my oldest daughter and to some extent am learning in a new way with my son
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Eliza Madrigal: wish trains would work ;-)
Lucinda Lavender: is it too personal to ask how they are different
Eliza Madrigal: I can answer in ways that aren't too personal
Lucinda Lavender: ah:)
Eliza Madrigal: his is more of a kind of existential anxiety
Eliza Madrigal: whereas hers was attachment and also hm.. single pointedness
Eliza Madrigal: so she was, when little, always 'rule keeper' for instance
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Eliza Madrigal: very creative but the rules were important within that wide creativity
Lucinda Lavender: did she like consistency?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Lucinda Lavender: predictability?
Eliza Madrigal: she needs many heads-ups, still, before able to make a shift
Eliza Madrigal: and time to assimilate
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Para! :)
Lucinda Lavender: to get ready to change something...
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Para!
Paradise Tennant: smiles hello luci ..eliza
Lucinda Lavender: Para did you fix the problem with going offline?
Paradise Tennant: yes it seemed to fix itself
Lucinda Lavender: great...
Eliza Madrigal: great, maybe it was a connection issue in the area
Paradise Tennant: not sure what it was
Eliza Madrigal: SL seems to be behaving better, too
Lucinda Lavender: we are talking about transitions and how children/people feel with them...
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: how much time we need before a transition etc...
Paradise Tennant: hiya storm :)) gtsy
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
Storm Nordwind: Hello everyone :)
Lucinda Lavender: HI Storm!
Eliza Madrigal: quite a practice really, to pay attention to transitions - then everything begins to feel like a transition - distinction breaks down :)
Lucinda Lavender: many new moments experienced really..
Lucinda Lavender: a day a month a year a decade
Eliza Madrigal: each sentence each letter
Eliza Madrigal: new arrival and departure
Eliza Madrigal: so one person may feel more of a flow than another I guess
Lucinda Lavender: some of the children I see are wired differntly it seems
Lucinda Lavender: building openness to change...big job
Lucinda Lavender: slow process
Eliza Madrigal: an adult 'planted' on the scene is fortunate for those children
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes...for sure!
Eliza Madrigal: I guess one step between may be for they themselves to learn that they are wired a bit differently
Eliza Madrigal: to allow for that as okay
Lucinda Lavender: yes..and create strategies they understand
Eliza Madrigal: excuse me pls, will be back in a few minutes
Lucinda Lavender: give them work that they are successful at
Lucinda Lavender: sure...
Lucinda Lavender: anything new strom and Para?
Lucinda Lavender: Storm...
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Storm Nordwind: Hmmm...
Paradise Tennant: listens
Storm Nordwind: Not much. Doing a little work for the 5th anniversary party in world. Some 99 day stuff in RL.
Paradise Tennant: how is the 99 days going storm ?
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Lucinda Lavender: listens...
Storm Nordwind: Seems to be popular. But I think it always is for the first month
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: (back) Hi San
Paradise Tennant: hiy a san
Storm Nordwind waves
Santoshima Resident: hello
Lucinda Lavender: Hiya San..
Lucinda Lavender: Sort a relaxed evening here...friday night and discussion has been about transitions and their challenges as well as 99 days...
Paradise Tennant: smiles sort of end of the week dazed I guess
Lucinda Lavender: me too
Paradise Tennant: funny how hollow busy can make you feel
Lucinda Lavender: :)) good point
Lucinda Lavender: I had the children learn at chool about the word busy
Paradise Tennant: what did they think of it
Lucinda Lavender: it was in a book we read
Lucinda Lavender: and I asked them...what is busy for you...
Lucinda Lavender: where do you see business
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Lucinda Lavender: chores, shopping, school... they said
Storm Nordwind: Sounds like things they'd prefer not to do! ;)
Lucinda Lavender: :)) may be.
Lucinda Lavender: busy is when the flow gets challenging i guess
Paradise Tennant: funny I can be really busy and feel in flow there seems to be flow but when I let go .. sometimes feel .. empty
Lucinda Lavender: and you have to wait sometimes
Storm Nordwind: that's interesting. I would find it quite different. Busy for me would be when I was so focused on the flow of what I was doing that I didn't notice anything else outside that
Eliza Madrigal: maybe when out of element, or downshifting in some way
Lucinda Lavender: ...a train builders gift:)...focus
Paradise Tennant: yes think that is the hall mark of flow .. when you seem to step out of time
Storm Nordwind: Multitasking is the work of the devil ;-))
Paradise Tennant: but when you come out of it . for me I will have been in numbers for many hours
Paradise Tennant: it seems like you are leting go you have to shake
Eliza Madrigal: re-entry
Lucinda Lavender: :)) smiles at you all...
Eliza Madrigal smiles back and realizes how relaxed she feels... ready for bed
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Luci, everybody
Eliza Madrigal: Night
Santoshima Resident: g'nit Eliza
Storm Nordwind: :)
Storm Nordwind waves
Paradise Tennant: smies sweet dreams elzia
Lucinda Lavender: thanks to you
Paradise Tennant: has anyone had a dream ?
Lucinda Lavender: we put our clock puzzles out on the table today...
Santoshima Resident: yes, i rarely dream
Santoshima Resident: and had a wonderful dream last week
Santoshima Resident: or if not wonderful
Lucinda Lavender: would love to hear dreams
--BELL--
Santoshima Resident: anyway, a dream, and it has provided a kind of ripple
Santoshima Resident: like a small stone dropped into a very still pool
Santoshima Resident: so that is interesting to me
Lucinda Lavender: nods..can you say more?
Storm Nordwind loves the image
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Santoshima Resident: maybe, but not so much on the location
Santoshima Resident: but that the main was an embrace from a teacher whom i love and admire in rl
Santoshima Resident: simply gave me a hug
Santoshima Resident: and reassured
Santoshima Resident: in that way
Santoshima Resident: that's all
Paradise Tennant: ooooooo
Paradise Tennant: it is enough :))
Lucinda Lavender: how wonderful...time for hugs
Santoshima Resident: :)
Paradise Tennant: had a similar dream where my dad who has passed appeared to give me a hug .. what a lovely feeling
Storm Nordwind: That may be all, but it can mean so much, and - as you say - it can ripple out to the whole of your life, for a long time.
Santoshima Resident: true
Lucinda Lavender: a memory for all time
Paradise Tennant: it is what we should do with each moment and each othe . hold everything in an embrace :)
Paradise Tennant: *other
Santoshima Resident: :))
Storm Nordwind: Sometimes, I find we need to embrace - a child or a friend - and them throw them into the air and let them fly!
Storm Nordwind: *then
Santoshima Resident: that's great
Lucinda Lavender: play...
Paradise Tennant: very important play we take ourselves so seriously
Lucinda Lavender: educate our children to be elegant
Santoshima Resident: !!!
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: burden of being good
Paradise Tennant: funny my definition of good seems to be broadening as I get older
Paradise Tennant: not so black and white
Paradise Tennant: lots of room for grey
Paradise Tennant: there is often good in things that don't look that great
Paradise Tennant: form the outset
Storm Nordwind: And there is Upaya
Lucinda Lavender: what is Upaya?
Storm Nordwind: Expedient means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upaya
Santoshima Resident: skillful means
Storm Nordwind: Doeing/saying what is necessary to achieve a high good goal, even if superficially it might appear to be other than good
Lucinda Lavender: sometimes sticking ones neck out...?
Storm Nordwind: Maybe in some people's eyes. But it means having clear sight to see what is really important and not getting caught up in what is not so important.
Paradise Tennant: or saying things that are difficult tosay
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...
--BELL--
Santoshima Resident: good night ~ thank you
Santoshima Resident: ~
Lucinda Lavender: good noight and thank you!
Santoshima Resident: that's a wave
Storm Nordwind: Be well dear friend
Paradise Tennant: smiles namaste san .. thank you
Lucinda Lavender: I think I should go...be well all!
Paradise Tennant: nite nite luci :))
Paradise Tennant: be well
Paradise Tennant: nite nite storm :))
Paradise Tennant: namaste my friends :))
Storm Nordwind: Namaste
Lucinda Lavender: namaste
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