The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.

Xiranas' exhibitions:

Zen Arado: Hi Xirana :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Zen, Bleu! :)
Zen Arado: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Zen, Xiri :)
Zen Arado: I should be able to go to your exhibition later
Bleu Oleander: me too :)
Zen Arado: you are having a lot of them lately Xiri
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful Zen and Bleu! :)
Bleu Oleander: fun parties !
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...now I need a break:)
Bleu Oleander: nice that art brings people together for parties
Zen Arado: I don't know how you get the time
Zen Arado: for the painting in RL I mean
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh not all works are new...this time only a pair of new drawings Zen
Bleu Oleander: still an amazing body of work
Bleu Oleander: hi Raffi
Zen Arado: Hi Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: Hi everyone.
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Raffi!
Xirana Oximoxi: I guess I've been painting a lot as a way to have my mind busy:)
Zen Arado: my mind isn't that busy when painting
Bleu Oleander: I used to paint a lot more than I do now
Zen Arado: hard to explain that
Bleu Oleander: task oriented?
Xirana Oximoxi: I mean...not to think about other matters:)
Bleu Oleander: focus on the physicalness of painting?
Zen Arado: I don't have a result I want to achieve so much now
Zen Arado: yeh
Zen Arado: kind of do what feels necessary
Bleu Oleander: I like the properties of the paint and can get lost in the colors :)
Bleu Oleander: seems to come from an intuitive space
Xirana Oximoxi: it's like when you say you write everyday....
Bleu Oleander: write with paint :)
Zen Arado: yeh or paint with words
Zen Arado: :)
Bleu Oleander: waves to Mel :)
Melody1778 Resident: Hi Bleu
Melody1778 Resident: Is there a topic we are discussing?
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Mel!
Melody1778 Resident: Hi Zen
Melody1778 Resident: Hi Xirana!
Melody1778 Resident: :)
Melody1778 Resident: I am blind
Melody1778 Resident: so forgive me if I left out anyone
Zen Arado: Hi Mel
Zen Arado: though I don't see you
Bleu Oleander: we are talking about art
Melody1778 Resident: oh my favorite topic
Bleu Oleander: :)
Raffila Millgrove: i can't see her either. but Hello.
Melody1778 Resident: Hi Raffila
Xirana Oximoxi: me either...are you chatting through the mobile?
Melody1778 Resident: you can't see me because I exist in my cubicle at work
Zen Arado: oh I see you up in the air
Melody1778 Resident: but I am with you guys
Bleu Oleander: I see you as a cloud above us :)
Raffila Millgrove: ah a cloud over head.
Melody1778 Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh yes...me too, now I see your 'cloud' :)
Melody1778 Resident: that way I can watch over you guys
Zen Arado: a little white cloud
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Melody1778 Resident: I promise not to rain on you
Zen Arado: hovering over us
Bleu Oleander: a watchful eye
Zen Arado: heh
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Bleu Oleander: making us behave well :))
Zen Arado: 'the little white cloud that cried
Melody1778 Resident: someone should be watching me at work
Zen Arado: bet you don't remember that song
Melody1778 Resident: make me behave
Bleu Oleander: :)
Melody1778 Resident: no don't know that song....
Melody1778 Resident: could you sing a few bars Zen?
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Zen Arado: nope :)
Melody1778 Resident: I feel challenged, no sight and no hearing either
Zen Arado: Johnny Ray
Zen Arado: he always cried
Zen Arado: his trademark
Melody1778 Resident: ok so what were you up to with the topic of art?

New Art of Being:

Bleu Oleander: there is a new Art of Being coming up
Melody1778 Resident: yes?
Melody1778 Resident: when?
Melody1778 Resident: topic?
Bleu Oleander: theme of "5" for Pab anniversary
Melody1778 Resident: 5?
Bleu Oleander: using just prims and color
Zen Arado: no scripts?
Melody1778 Resident: no words?
Xirana Oximoxi: have you sent the rules of the new project Bleu?
Xirana Oximoxi: I am sorry if I have missed it
Melody1778 Resident: sees 5's bouncing all around my head
Raffila Millgrove: i don't recall seeing them yet either?
Bleu Oleander: sent you a notecard
Melody1778 Resident: me neither
Xirana Oximoxi: Thank you Bleu! :)
Bleu Oleander: also a logo project
Melody1778 Resident: can't get notecards here either
Melody1778 Resident: ?(
Bleu Oleander: oh no

Bleu Oleander: well I'll send out another email notice
Zen Arado: no textures?
Zen Arado: wow
Melody1778 Resident: oh went back into email
Bleu Oleander: no textures
Bleu Oleander: just like our first Art of Being Project
Bleu Oleander: so re-doing our first project in a way
Bleu Oleander: a bit of history
Melody1778 Resident: found the email
Bleu Oleander: we'll display our original pieces too
Bleu Oleander: along the center walkway
Zen Arado: come to think of it mine only had colours
Bleu Oleander: so we can see how far we've come in using our creativity
Zen Arado: mine won't fit maybe
Bleu Oleander: so just prims (not more than 50) and colors
Bleu Oleander: your original one will fit on the walkway
Zen Arado: but I used scripts
Bleu Oleander: new ones will be in the dome
Bleu Oleander: scripts are ok
Zen Arado: timer scripts
Bleu Oleander: 4m x 4m x 6m
Zen Arado: we had great fun jumping off my exhibit
Zen Arado: I can bury some of it in the ground
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: the walkway has no roof so it will fit
Zen Arado: is that 3 years ago?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: gosh
Bleu Oleander: I know
Bleu Oleander: seems like yesterday hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: which was the subject of the first project...Pab's aniversary too?
Melody1778 Resident: so scripts are ok?
Bleu Oleander: we were all very new virtual artists
Zen Arado: I have been a guardian for more than 3 years then
Bleu Oleander: simple scripts and particles
Bleu Oleander: no sounds
Bleu Oleander: and stay within space limits
Zen Arado: funny ...when we write poems the tutor makes us pare them down
Melody1778 Resident: words ok?
Zen Arado: simpler the better
Zen Arado: we can still write a poem?
Zen Arado: on a notecard?
Zen Arado: a 'five' poem
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: or about pab
Bleu Oleander: include a notecard
Melody1778 Resident: yes to words on logo?
Bleu Oleander: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Events/PaB_Art
Bleu Oleander: we're looking for designs to use to decorate for the party
Bleu Oleander: for balloons etc.
Bleu Oleander: I sent one around that I did to get people started
Melody1778 Resident: I am sorry....are words ok on logo sign?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Melody1778 Resident: thank you
Xirana Oximoxi: I am reading the notecard and I am not sure which relation the project must have witht the first one :)
Zen Arado: a pab logo?
Bleu Oleander: can u receive things Mel?
Xirana Oximoxi: We used the “prim” as a metaphor for being; using shades of colors for the many colors of being; using transparency for revealing being; dropping textures as a metaphor for “PaB dropping”
Xirana Oximoxi: do we have to take it as a first step?
Bleu Oleander: we are just using the prim/color parameter from the first project
Melody1778 Resident: no I can't receive things here
Bleu Oleander: with a new theme
Bleu Oleander: 5's
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
Xirana Oximoxi: thank you Bleu! :-)
Zen Arado: you will probably get them first time you log on a computer
Bleu Oleander: so back to begining instructions with new theme
Melody1778 Resident: total number of prims is 50?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: unlimited color and transparencies of colors
Zen Arado: sounds like a lego project :)
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Zen Arado: scope for colored blocks
Bleu Oleander: so we will decorate with everyones designs
Zen Arado: Mel knows how to get them to mobe around
Zen Arado: move
Melody1778 Resident: yes I love to see art move
Zen Arado: could do a colored mandala

Bleu Oleander: maybe you can do a class with Sun on movement?
Zen Arado: we know rotation scripts
Bleu Oleander: yes, but there are other movements you can do that would be fun to learn
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: and how to modify scripts
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: we need something like that this time
Melody1778 Resident: I learned by changing one number at a time and watching what happens
Melody1778 Resident: then changing another number
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I would also like to learn to modify scripts....if it's not too complicated:)
Melody1778 Resident: then another number
Melody1778 Resident: until I was going in circles
Melody1778 Resident: lol
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe yes Mel...good way:)
Zen Arado: yes..if we have the scripts we can play with them
Bleu Oleander: learn by doing :)
Melody1778 Resident: best to start with the rotation script
Xirana Oximoxi: the best way to learn:)
Melody1778 Resident: and change one number at a time and watch
Zen Arado: just changing the minus sign makes rotation go the other way
Zen Arado: I seem to remember
Raffila Millgrove: does anyone need a script scrubber. they are really handy if you don't have one. they clean out the prim... in case you have a script that has gone wonky on you.
Bleu Oleander: today Sun's class is going to Xiri's art opening ... but perhaps next week?
Zen Arado: I have on ty Raffi
Melody1778 Resident: though sometimes I have changed 3 numbers at a time and watched it go in directions I will never understand
Zen Arado: and yes they are very handy
Bleu Oleander: thank you Raffi
Melody1778 Resident: and I use the scrubber alot
Melody1778 Resident: lol
Bleu Oleander: i've never used one
Zen Arado: Mel is at work at that time I think though
Xirana Oximoxi: I have no idea about script scrubber
Melody1778 Resident: then you must not make mistakes
Melody1778 Resident: lol
Bleu Oleander: I make a lot of mistakes and just begin again hehe
Melody1778 Resident: If you want to delete a script you put in an object
Melody1778 Resident: you cant just delete it
Xirana Oximoxi: could you give me one Raffi? I will play with it:)
Melody1778 Resident: it still exists
Zen Arado: I just gave you one Xiri
Melody1778 Resident: so you have to put The scrubber script in
Raffila Millgrove: i did already.
Melody1778 Resident: and then that cleans out everything
Melody1778 Resident: I hate building things over again
Bleu Oleander: then you add new ones?
Raffila Millgrove: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: thank yopu!! :)
Melody1778 Resident: so I just scrub out the script
Raffila Millgrove: it cleans it.. the script it now gone.. and so is the scrubber and you start fresh again.
Bleu Oleander: wow very nice ty
Zen Arado: yes
Raffila Millgrove: saves you from wrecking a build by having a faulty script in it.
Melody1778 Resident: a very necessary tool in my tool box
Bleu Oleander: yes I can see that it would be
Raffila Millgrove: i have one that will only remove a sound script.. that has come in very handy.. in contests where no sound is allowed.
Zen Arado: yes
Bleu Oleander: yes
Zen Arado: just with mods
Xirana Oximoxi: ohhh I see how useful it is!! I hate when I have tried some scripts and don't like it and the must rebuild the object
Raffila Millgrove: i've mostly had to use the ones that give out folders. inv.. or hover script etc.
Bleu Oleander: UWA has a new art contest too btw
Zen Arado: wish I had more time for this
Bleu Oleander: http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/
Bleu Oleander: nice theme to work with
Zen Arado: I can't get time for painting iin RL atm
Bleu Oleander: there will be a machinima contest with it too
Zen Arado: Hi Storm
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Storm! :-)
Storm Nordwind: Good morning friends :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Storm :)
Zen Arado: we are talking about the next art of being Storm
Xirana Oximoxi: thanks Bleu:) and good prices too:)
Storm Nordwind: The art of being me???! ;-)
Bleu Oleander: haha!
Zen Arado: or not me
Zen Arado: or you
Zen Arado: :)
Bleu Oleander: or me and not-me
Zen Arado: the art of not being
Storm Nordwind: What a difference a comma makes ;-)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: five reflections
Zen Arado: five mirrors
Zen Arado: pity we can't make morrors in SL
Bleu Oleander: five me's
Xirana Oximoxi: the art of being with others
Storm Nordwind: You can make mirrors... though you have to fake it!
Bleu Oleander: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: 'others' is the topic of this week:)
Zen Arado: oh?
Zen Arado: forgot

Others and me and Autism:

Zen Arado: drat my typing is so bad today
Zen Arado: no me no others
Zen Arado: so that's it :)
Bleu Oleander: no others no me?
Zen Arado: works too
Storm Nordwind: Not necessarily
Zen Arado: only a means of identification
Zen Arado: to distinguish between different humans
Storm Nordwind: Autism tends to be me-only and that can be a problem for others
Zen Arado: not having any regard for other humans?
Zen Arado: whci is needed for intercommunication
Zen Arado: to be able to work with others
Storm Nordwind: In some cases, not being able to acknowledge there are other points of view. Empathy not possible
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: no social skills
Raffila Millgrove: i was going to say samething. inability to see another perspective.. not uncommon and almost a disability...
Zen Arado: or limited
Zen Arado: it is a spectrum
Zen Arado: yes
Raffila Millgrove: i sometimes don't agree with another's view but I am relieved that I can see thru their eyes. understand what they see.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: mirror neurons
Bleu Oleander: theory of mind
Zen Arado: it is interesting to see the world from the viewpoint of someone with Aspergers
Zen Arado: they think NT's viewpoint is weird
Zen Arado: neurotypicals
Zen Arado: though NTs see them as having a disability
Zen Arado: most of us have social skills we take for granted
Bleu Oleander: we're a very social species
Zen Arado: people with Aspergers have to spend a lot of time acting
Zen Arado: using behaviours they don't understand
Zen Arado: sorry I learned a lot of this from a friend with Asoergers

T shirts:

Bleu Oleander: separate projects Mel
Zen Arado: we could design a new T shirt or something
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: to give away at the party
Zen Arado: I did that before but have forgotten how
Bleu Oleander: to make t-shirts?
Raffila Millgrove: please excuse me, but most run off now. nice to see you all.
Zen Arado: that's the problem of getting old :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Raffi
Zen Arado: yes
Raffila Millgrove: bye. have a good day all.
Zen Arado: byee Raffi
Storm Nordwind: Bye for now!
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Raffi! have a nice day! :-)
Zen Arado: I should write a careful set of instructions for myself
Xirana Oximoxi: do you do the t.shirt with photoshop...or just putting a texture here with the tools of SL viewer?
Bleu Oleander: I use photoshop
Zen Arado: I use a photo program yes
Xirana Oximoxi: ah...that's more complicated :)
Bleu Oleander: but you can make a shirt in sl and apply a texture to it
Zen Arado: problem is I don't remember which
Xirana Oximoxi: I tried once
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...with sl is easier...but not so well done
Bleu Oleander: might not look right ... easier for me to make it in photoshop
Zen Arado: I have used Photoshop, Gimp and paint shop pro
Bleu Oleander: yes all those work :)

Zen Arado: Bleu helped me before
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe we can suggest also a building class to learn how to do it:)
Bleu Oleander: I use Robin Wood's patterns
Bleu Oleander: http://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Tec...orialGate.html
Zen Arado: there are website give instruction how to do it
Zen Arado: yes good idea Xiri :)
Zen Arado: a T shirt isn't too difficult
Xirana Oximoxi: thank you Bleu! :-)
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Zen Arado: been there got the T shirt
Zen Arado: heh
Bleu Oleander: http://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Tec...orialGate.html
Bleu Oleander: very easy to use her patterns
Bleu Oleander: make a pattern suit for your avi to see where the lines hit on your shape
Xirana Oximoxi: have you tried mesh clothes?
Zen Arado: no?
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't like it at all..usually don't fit to my avatar
Bleu Oleander: I haven't tried mesh yet
Xirana Oximoxi: some shops let you try
Bleu Oleander: to make anyway
Bleu Oleander: what kind of program do you use to make mesh?
Xirana Oximoxi: no idea Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hmmm one of these days i'll investigate that :)
Storm Nordwind apologizes but must slip away...
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Storm
Bleu Oleander: take care
Zen Arado: kk byee Storm
Storm Nordwind waves
Xirana Oximoxi: for exemple...the dresses of Paris Metro are part made of mesh
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Storm
Bleu Oleander: a lot of new stuff is mesh
Xirana Oximoxi: the colletion made with artyists works
Xirana Oximoxi: and never fit me...
Bleu Oleander: i've bought some
Bleu Oleander: I like it when they give you s, m, L sizes
Zen Arado: we'll make mesh T shirts :)
Xirana Oximoxi: and last dress...the designer told in a notecard to change our avatar to make it fit the dress:))
Bleu Oleander: don't like that
Zen Arado: weird
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...they give sizes...but I must be too fat
Bleu Oleander: i've not changed my shape since the first time
Bleu Oleander: the only consistant thing about my avatar hehe
Zen Arado: funny how we expect clothes to always fit in SL
Xirana Oximoxi: me either...and makes no sense to have to change the body each time you try a dress
Bleu Oleander: right
Zen Arado: starting ti get like RL
Xirana Oximoxi: usually they fit...no matter wich size you have...:)
Bleu Oleander: very much like rl
Xirana Oximoxi: but with mesh it works differently
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
Bleu Oleander: I think most people use mesh-enabled viewers now right?
Zen Arado: they keep making clothes sizes smaller in RL
Zen Arado: right?
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...in RL it is a real problem to suggest everyone must be thin
Xirana Oximoxi: specially to youngs
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: should get to work
Zen Arado: young people are too thin
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you all
Zen Arado: byee Ble
Bleu Oleander: will see you later at your party Xiri
Zen Arado: see you later
Xirana Oximoxi: in Spain they have put a minimum size in mode fashion shows
Bleu Oleander: waves to Mel in the clouds
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: byeee
Zen Arado: I better go make dinner
Xirana Oximoxi: I also will go now!! see you later:)
Zen Arado: I wrote a French story about Popeye Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhhh I want to read it!! :))
Xirana Oximoxi: in French?
Zen Arado: Popeye le marin :)
Zen Arado: oui
Xirana Oximoxi: wow....:)
Xirana Oximoxi: we can read it tomorrrow?
Zen Arado: oui
Zen Arado: corrige moi
Xirana Oximoxi: that would be great!! :)
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe you can make a google doc?
Xirana Oximoxi: and we share it?
Zen Arado: d'accord
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:)
Xirana Oximoxi: perfect
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Zen Arado: byee then
Zen Arado: bye Mel ;)
Xirana Oximoxi: byebye:)) take care
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Mel! :)