2013.02.08 19:00 - Balance, Patience, Equanimity and Self-Control

The Guardian for this meeting was druth Vlodovic. The comments are by druth Vlodovic.

Catrinamonblue Resident: patience as related to balance
druth Vlodovic: balance as related to patience?
Catrinamonblue Resident: balanced waiting
Catrinamonblue Resident: waiting on balance?
druth Vlodovic: hard to be patient when unbalanced
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: when unbalanced you are reaching for balance so sometimes seem impatient when maybe your not
druth Vlodovic: can you patiently reach for balance?
Catrinamonblue Resident: at first glance you would think not but I think maybe you can
druth Vlodovic: oh?
Catrinamonblue Resident: if we are talking on an emotional level then taking time to breath and look and understand takes patience and gaining balance takes time
druth Vlodovic: so creating time in which to find balance, rather than having the time to start with
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: balance is perception
Aphrodite Macbain: I just flattened my nose against that column
Aphrodite Macbain: This is my aphrodite outfit druth- I wore it for a performance in the molecule
Aphrodite Macbain: Cat and I have been dancing
Aphrodite Macbain: oh dear.
Aphrodite Macbain: Is there a storm there?
Aphrodite Macbain: both of you went off line

--BELL--

druth Vlodovic: Bad weather!
druth Vlodovic: not nice to my internet!
druth Vlodovic: hi aph :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: talking to the tech guys
druth Vlodovic: nice wings
Catrinamonblue Resident: thanks

(recap)

druth Vlodovic: it seems that reality is perception as well, at least in SL during snowstorms
Aphrodite Macbain: hi
druth Vlodovic: chocolate lag :)
Aphrodite Macbain: patience requires a steadiness in oneself, a sense of calm and composure, perhaps of hope
Aphrodite Macbain: It's imossible to feel patience if I'm unstable
druth Vlodovic: normally we think of patience in terms of waiting
druth Vlodovic: but it is possible to wait without patience :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes but it also means putting up with things with equanimity
Catrinamonblue Resident: that is when you find out you have patience :)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
druth Vlodovic: so we have all these converging terms
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
druth Vlodovic: "patience" "equanimity" "balance" "calm in the storm" "long suffering"
druth Vlodovic: "wisdom" always seem equated with patience
Aphrodite Macbain: patience with others, patience with things, patience with oneself
Aphrodite Macbain: letting things happen in their own time
Catrinamonblue Resident: patience is needed when talking to tech guys in the phone
Aphrodite Macbain: That's hard to do
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: not helpful
druth Vlodovic: is it unwise to act in haste, or to force things?
Aphrodite Macbain: you are communicating in another laguage
druth Vlodovic: except in the case of tech guys on the phone maybe :)
Aphrodite Macbain: when is it not wise druth?
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: Every time I have tried to push at people, myself included, I have found that it has almost always backfired in my face
Aphrodite Macbain: They're doing their job as best they can- usually
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
druth Vlodovic: when we think "wise" the images tend to have a lot of calm and waiting in them
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) yes
Aphrodite Macbain: and silent
Aphrodite Macbain: and old
Catrinamonblue Resident: patience is the ability to breathe through a moment in time
Aphrodite Macbain: croak
druth Vlodovic: it takes time to slow down
Catrinamonblue Resident: knowing that the next moment will be better
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes slow down
Catrinamonblue Resident: thoughts and mind
Catrinamonblue Resident: focus down to one thought
Aphrodite Macbain: or not better Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: one breath
Catrinamonblue Resident: it WILL be better
Catrinamonblue Resident: that is hope
Aphrodite Macbain: I wish I could do that Cat. Can you?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not always but sometimes yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: it is learned with practice
Aphrodite Macbain: when you meditate?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not only in meditation
Catrinamonblue Resident: in every day life
Catrinamonblue Resident: in each moment
Catrinamonblue Resident: I live only here and now
Catrinamonblue Resident: which is why I get my foot stuck in my mouth so often
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) I would think that you would avoid that by being very present
Catrinamonblue Resident: not always
druth Vlodovic: maybe the mouth moves too fast, and leaves your equanimity behind
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes yes
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: loose lips sink ships
Catrinamonblue Resident: patience for me is about getting up in the morning and sitting for 5 minutes to plan the day. Not in the sense of I do this and that but in the sense of emotionally planning the day. Words don't seem to be able to explain this well
Catrinamonblue Resident: so you'll need to be patient as I try
Catrinamonblue Resident: each day I think of all the positives that can happen through the day
Catrinamonblue Resident: and I hold on to those
Catrinamonblue Resident: even when I'm driving to work and tears are pouring down my face
Catrinamonblue Resident: and I'm sobbing hard
Catrinamonblue Resident: I hold on to the positives that are there
Catrinamonblue Resident: the sun is sining
Catrinamonblue Resident: and in a few hours I can go home
Catrinamonblue Resident: to my refuge
Catrinamonblue Resident: my safe place
Catrinamonblue Resident: have I said too much?
druth Vlodovic: the future holds fear or refuge depending on how you choose to view it I guess
Aphrodite Macbain: You have been honest
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Hanna
druth Vlodovic: "In time things will change, and there are many safe and happy moments".
Hana Furlough: hi aph, druth, and cat!
druth Vlodovic: hi hanna
Aphrodite Macbain: apparently we have a choice on how we react to things
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes always
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Hanna
Hana Furlough: but it's hard sometimes
Aphrodite Macbain: choice
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: It does come down to choice
Catrinamonblue Resident: I choose to be patient and wait
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- staying in the present, breathing, are all ways of controlling our reactions.
Catrinamonblue Resident: to see what will happen
Aphrodite Macbain: That's what emtional intelligence is
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm pretty stupid!
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Catrinamonblue Resident: no you're not
Aphrodite Macbain: emotionally stupid
Catrinamonblue Resident: it takes time and practice
Catrinamonblue Resident: and how can you pratice that which you do not know!!
Hana Furlough: seriously
Hana Furlough: wow everyone has wings!
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Catrinamonblue Resident: you need to learn first, then practice
Hana Furlough: hi san
Aphrodite Macbain: we danced with the fairies hana
Santoshima Resident: hi hana and veryone
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San!
Catrinamonblue Resident: I had a therapist several years back who was amazing, it was she who showed me how to change my reactions to people
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi san :)
druth Vlodovic: hi san
Aphrodite Macbain: oh? how?
Catrinamonblue Resident: It took her two years with me to do it :)
Aphrodite Macbain: count to ten?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not really
Catrinamonblue Resident: just the things I have already been telling you
Catrinamonblue Resident: the thing is to find a focus
--BELL--
Santoshima Resident: why're avi's half naked tonight? something special going on?
Santoshima Resident: hmm
Santoshima Resident: well, that's an answer

(aph and cat both vanished)

druth Vlodovic: they were dancing with fairies
Hana Furlough: (feeling overdressed)
druth Vlodovic: fae tend no to overburden themselves with cloth
Santoshima Resident: hardly likely
Santoshima Resident: ok, well,
Santoshima Resident: back to searching for Sugarman
Santoshima Resident: gtsy
Hana Furlough: later san
druth Vlodovic: hope you find him
Santoshima Resident: uhm
Santoshima Resident: a film
Santoshima Resident: see ya
druth Vlodovic: wb cat
Hana Furlough: wb cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: ty
Catrinamonblue Resident: patience is hard
Catrinamonblue Resident: when emotions run high
Hana Furlough: yeah
Catrinamonblue Resident: How are you doing Hana?
Hana Furlough: i'm good, thanks
Hana Furlough: i wasn't too patient, yesterday though
Hana Furlough: sometimes it's hard just to ignore things as they're happened
druth Vlodovic: what happened?
Hana Furlough: nothing too exciting
Hana Furlough: just an aggravating situation
Hana Furlough: i ignored it as it was happening
Hana Furlough: but it bothered me
Hana Furlough: so I brought it up later with a friend
Hana Furlough: and we ended up talking about it for 40 minutes
Hana Furlough: I felt bad that I had monopolized my friend's time with my complaining
Hana Furlough: still feel bad
Catrinamonblue Resident: talking with a good friend can help sometimes
Hana Furlough: yeah it did
Catrinamonblue Resident: I don't think that they would think you had monopolized them I wouldn't think that
Hana Furlough: i know, but I still feel bad
Catrinamonblue Resident: you are a very considerate person :)
Hana Furlough: haha thanks
--BELL--
druth Vlodovic: ah, I have to go, have fun guys
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Druth
Hana Furlough: bye druth
Catrinamonblue Resident: I think I'm going to go as well Hana
Catrinamonblue Resident: night :)
Hana Furlough: have a good evening